The Complex Case of Gwendolyn Elaine Fogle
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- Опубліковано 29 жов 2023
- Gwendolyn Elaine Fogle arrived home on the evening of May 27, 1978, but when her roommate arrived home a few hours later, she found Elaine murdered in their home. It would take 37 years before the identity of the killer was discovered.
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"A fire poker was wrapped around her neck" That line gave me pause. The brute strength that would require is intimidating
I thought the same.
I know, right? I was wondering of maybe I was picturing the wrong object in my mind when they said that because I couldn't imagine how difficult it would be to do that!
first thing I thought of was damn it had to be some crappy fire poker
Very scary
@ 7:56 they saying the fire poker was given to her as a house warming gift from her parents.... lmao 😢😮😅😊😊😮I'm so weak right now the universe be playing games frfr n it was the day before her birthday 🎉😂 what who could time that like that .... 🤯🤔and they said they needed help to unwrap it !!!!! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾😵🤷🤪😏
I grew up in this same small. She worked for my grandmother's doctor. Willie worked with my brother logging. That man is NOT crazy....he's just evil.
Oh goodness…I’m so sorry for all that this wicked person did to the community. We have a lot of crazy crime in Idaho but this one is beyond disturbing.
Poor , poor Elaine. What she went through was horrendous and brutal. Kudos to the team who solved her case.
Your channel helped a co-worker call to get out of her abusive relationship
Thank you.
I'm glad I could help and I hope she's doing well. Tell her I said thanks for watching. And thanks to you too!
Awesome, hope she is doing well.
I lived a few doors down from Nancy and Elaine at the time and I can almost guarantee you the motive was sexual assault. I had an incident happen just before or just after Elaine’s murder, I was very young and was standing at my kitchen sink washing dishes to the right of me was a back door , Something drew my attention to the knob to that door and it was turning . As my husband had walked to the store near us I thought perhaps he was playing a joke on me . I yelled out and called out his name and said “ if it’s you you better say so because I have a knife “ I heard nothing so as I was frightened I went to our front door I saw my husband up the street , I stood their waiting until he came through the front door . He walked through to the kitchen and flipped on the back yard light . He saw someone running past a shed we had in the back yard , We called the police and they came out but of course the person was gone . I’ve never forgotten about that my whole life I am 63 now .
How does that mean it's sexual? Guy could have been there to rob you?
I ❤ you and your Husband. So glad you avoided the worst.
I thought ripping a phone book in half was an impressive show of strength...man, it's unsettling to think the guy was so strong that the police had to get assistance to remove the fireplace poker from around her neck. Unfortunate how the most arbitrary and often brutal killers are the ones that get away with it for decades.
Terrifying! She had no chance! Would anyone???👀
There is a method to ripping a phone book in half easily by curling some of the pages outward. Ive done it before and I'm tiny
Depends on the phone book. California had thick books and heavy. I moved to small towns in NV and they are not much larger than a pamphlet.
Yeah Willy had that retard strength. I am shocked that yet another black man killed and raped someone 🙄 what a world we live in.
This is the first time I've cried watching your videos.The way everyone evolved took such care of her case,it's beautiful ❤️
I love all your work, Jiles. You have the voice and storytelling skills of a true bard.
Thank you so much!
easy money if you got the voice for it
i don't really comment that often on anything, but i wanna say how appreciative i am for how informative and thorough you are with these videos! they never disappoint
Thanks so much!
just wanted to say its been a joy to watch your channel grow and for all you consistent hard work..i always look forward to your videos!!
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@@UnapologeticallymeeBon Matin! From south Louisiana
Agree! The 1st time I came across your channel years ago I was a big fan! The way you convey the cases is phenomenal!!! What a fantastic woman Rita is!!! Thanks Jiles!
Such a sad story, but the determination of that lady made me so happy. To see people be so dedicated for years about something very important that unfortunately usually ends up unsolved. Hope theres more people like them out there. Another awesome video as usual! Thanks!
I want to thank you for the well-written subtitles. Its an effort that a lot of channels dont put in, and i really appreciate you or an editor taking that extra time to make your content as accessible as possible. Even the details like putting in all the punctuation and making sure its perfectly timed. You get rightly-deserved praise for a lot of aspects of your videos but ive never seen this pointed out.
EDIT I just saw that your shorts also have subtitles in the same manner that's AWESOME!! Thank you so much!
I love the photo of Johnson and Rita - she looks so badass. What a horrendous attack for someone to endure, I'm glad that Elaine finally got some justice.
Good morning guys! 3 am in ithe Caribbean 😊
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3a.m. also in Newport, N.H. USA getting ready for snow ❄️
Thank you, Jiles, for covering this sad case. Thank you, Rita and Corporal Johnson, for never giving up on Gwendolyn. What an emotional nuclear bomb. The devastation must have been unreal.
Aww💔her dog must've witnessed the attack, poor thing
Ritas perseverance is so admirable. Awful crime but the humanity shown gives me hope!
I been here since season 1 but never comment. I just wanted to say, reading comments on every awesome vid, its so cool to me what a little community Jiles has built in here!! Happy Halloween Monsters!!
I appreciate that!
What a crime scene! I can't imagine what that poor woman went through.
I admire the perseverance and strength required to just not let these things go. She deserved justice in any form she could get it.
There was something strange. Gwendolyn Fogle encountered someone sinister, and her murder was never solved until advancements in forensics helped solved it. A Someone Sinister episode that eventually turned into this.
I wish you'd do a episode on Henri van Breda who killed his parents, brother and almost his sister, in Stellenbosch, South Africa. You have to listen to the 10111 (our pathetic version of 911). If you thought the 911 call you commented on the Josh Powell story, this 10111 call will shock you to the core.
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Always wake up to go to the bathroom then you end up uploading and I never end up going back to sleep 😂 love the channel man
Haha! Me too!! This upload came in handy too! Since I don’t have to be up early tomorrow! (Well, today actually!)
What a brutal attack, Omg,she went through hell💔
Rita's determination and persistence is truly incredible. What a wonderful woman!
Thank God they got him. Fabulous job by all those who put in such effort. RIP Elaine and her loved ones who have passed. I hope this gives the rest of her loved ones some peace as well. Thank you Jiles🙏💔🕊️
I love that you cover cases from all over the World. I live (and grew up in) in South Carolina and it is so cool that you cover stories close to me. Btw, I grew up in Myrtle Beach and dated a boy from Conway in High School. - SLED is still alive and well. My Husband and I live in a small but, nice townhouse and our new neighbors had SLED show up at their townhouse a few weeks ago! Scared us but, everything seems ok now. Thank you for doing such a great job covering these stories. I’m so glad they found out who killed her.
What is SLED?
@@ThePinsaysouth Carolina Law Enforcement.
@ThePinsay South carolina Law Enforcement Division (I kept Carolina lower case to show what the acronym is)
SLED is... Interesting to say the least! I am from Beaufort so when I saw this was from Walterboro I was like 👀👀. They did a horrid job on the Murdaugh case, which he is very close to getting a retrial of even though everyone knows he did it!!
@@thisisMONSTERS I just hadn't watched the full video! When I asked it came up later! Thank for getting back to me guys! Thanks for your work Jiles!!
Thank you Jiles for keeping me going @ work, as I start work @ 3 am in my Boston neck of the woods.
So thanks for all your hard work ,much appreciated.
Hope everyone has a great week!
I hear ya! Some of us are just getting started on our loooong days. 😊 Have a productive day Hun!
Have a good day to both of you!
@@laleona776 thank you sweetie you as well.
@@bullast2046 thank you very much to you as well
Stay warm and dry, it's awfully blech outside today
What an excellent video! This is the one that (being written and presented so well!) made tears stream from my eyes… God bless these two fantastic and caring wonderful professionals! One can only hope to have dedicated people on your side like them in this situation! What a sad and compelling story , Jiles… I love that you always stand up for what’s decent and right.
Dude, how did i never notice that you are the same guy from (Somewhere) Sinister...?
That’s adorable 🤭✌️✨🎃
😊😂-Yep-its Jiles!!
Jiles, love your case presentations.
When I want to sleep, I listen to one of your shows. Puts me right to sleep. Then, I listen again when awake so I catch the show.
TY!!!!😊
Whatever God, Gods or higher beings exist, I hope they bless the people who don't give up on these cold cases and finally bring closure to families with lost loved ones.
Jiles, I love the way you focus on victims and help share their stories so they aren't forgotten.
Thank you Jiles, you tell these stories so well..
This is by far one of my favorite seasons so far. The compassion you show in these stories and research is really top notch and emphasizes the need for cold case research. I hope you consider doing another season of this type of crime as your unique spin on them is solid. This season along with the Tandy Store Murders have been my absolute favorite so far.
Loved and Missed... Rest in Forever Peace, Elaine.
P S. Over the weekend, I received my It's Never A Mannequin shirt! I love it! Thank you, Jiles!
Yes, numero uno! Happy Monday! Thanks for the video!
One of my favourite crime channels ❤
Love all your episodes. Will follow you everywhere
Thank you Jiles for this video and for the 2 others you have - Sinister & Jiles with a J Love all 3
I knew the spin offs were coming!! Im very much excited for the variety. Till this day, your work is unmatched. We appreciate you as these stories are way more than entertainment of sorts - they are intriguing, and flabbergasting.
Oh boy! I lived in Walterboro for a number of years. I met my husband there. Thanks so much for this historic tale. And, congratulations!!! I always look forward to your videos. 👍⚘️🙋♀️
Hey girl. I'm from Hampton county. 🙋🏾♀️
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WOW!! Love it 3 Sinister!!!! Very Nice..
A state run psychiatric facility is likely a fate worse than prison. He completely loses any tiny shreds of bodily integrity and self determination that he would have in prison. Perks like the ownership of reading material or a pencil and paper to draw are now forbidden. He won’t get trips to the commissary, access to exercise, phone calls and letters to loved ones. He’ll spend rest his life having the monster medicated out of him indefinitely.
Psychiatric facility's are not like they were back in the 1950's, at least here in New Zealand they aren't. They have tv and can exercise, read etc
Yeah I'm from NZ too and have family that spent time in one of these facilities and they have plenty of things to do and freedoms about what they eat, recreation time etc.
But hey, America might be different. You guys don't like funding healthcare.
Why would he not be allowed to exercise or make calls? Or read?
It's always encouraging to hear of another case solved. 😊
Now if only they could solve #LisaAu 's case. 😢
Or #jonbenet …….
A fantastic video and lovely end to my day, thank you as always sending love from Australia ❤
Bon Matin! From south Louisiana
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@@julieloucalcote1368 I don't know what time it is for you but have a fantastic day!
@@ThePinsay I'm half Scottish, my fathers parents are Scottish and he lived there for a while, I hope to visit one day! Have a wonderful day
@@ThePinsay what a beautiful country! Love the accent and the rowdy personalities from Scotland too! Would love to be able to visit one day!
ordering my baby sister some TiM merchandise for her birthday this weekend! thank you for the content ouo
People think those medical places are fake nope he will be drugged 24/7 and cause he is a criminal in a padded room. Really messed up that’s all they could get but atleast her family knows who did it
Ladies....Do NOT open the door for anyone and get a gun to protect yourself. Especially nowadays.
Hey hey Monsters!
Its amazing that the police can have a cheek swab that matches with dna left at a murder, yet it can possibly be thrown out by attorneys.
Because your I'm cray-cray cheek swab doesn't count? Inconceivable.
I would assume that the argument would be that it was given while he was under duress. The letter of the law has to be strictly followed in every case. I am so relieved that a sample taken before he was declared mentally incompetent.
I heard Walterboro and I almost broke my neck looking up! I grew up not to far from Walterboro.
As a kid in the 80s, I watched the TV show this is Munsters. Today, I watch this is monsters! I feel so much more mature and somewhat sinister. Buy me a cup of coffee please!
Are you talking about the black and white show or the tacky 80’s version of the Munsters?
@@michaelaurban4120I loved it! My mam actually got me a vhs of the show for Christmas!!
@@michaelaurban4120 Oh... Grandpa......
My notification woke me up at 3am and I'm not mad about it!
I listen to Monsters or Sinister every night and look forward to new episodes. Really, really well done Jiles!
Keep up the great work brother
Wow that was very sad. Thank you for the story
GOOD MORNING, TIM & S FAMILY!!! 😊❤
Bon matin!
I just have to say I love both of you channel. My children and I have a monster in our lives. We'll sorta. I was with a monster for 10 yrs. When I feld with my babies we got him put in prison. We began to call him the monster. As none of us wanted to even say his name. Anyways shortly before he got out I found your podcast. I laughed and started listening. Keep up the good work. Sinister is a great one as well. Thank you so much.
Sure you were luv, so many women like you make stories up and exaggerate victimhood nowadays its hard to believe women anymore
I hope you have taken measures to prevent him from finding you. A lot of those monsters don’t give up. I once got a restraining order against a really dangerous man. It was in effect for one year. The day after it expired, he came back!! I had to go back to court, and with the help of local police, got the order made permanent. Never saw him again.
Yes we have every step to protect ourselves. To be honest, though, I don't think as a mother I will ever stop looking over my shoulder.
u live in the safest societies in history lool women can never be happy, no matter what they have, its insane, its all in your heads, ure mental@@staceywindon4054
I like your sinister stories, but 10 minutes is so short lol
Love your videos, you're one of my favorite channels
I like the name Jiles. Reminds me of Buffy
A video from Jiles the day before Halloween, can’t ask for more! I’ve read some comments but haven’t watched yet, so I can’t say I’ll ‘enjoy’ the contents but as always will appreciate the work you put into all of your work! Take care my friend
Thank you Jiles....... again ❤
I like your narrative style, I know I will enjoy your new channels too
I love this channel monsters, is good. I wish u had more videos for this case
Congratulations on the expansion 🎊 you deserve it!!!
Good morning! 10am in South Africa❤
5 am in U.S.A -Eastern Time Zone🙂
Bon matin! It’s 5:00 a.m. here in south Louisiana
These videos are a guilty pleasure I shouldn’t be interested in wickedness and wicked acts of others but here I am watching.
New to True Crime channels? I could recommend several other great ones.😊
Jules, I wish you'd do a season on South African murders, especially Henri van Breda, if you thought the 911 call in the Josh Powell case was shocking, you should listen to the 10111 (our 911) Henri made a couple of hours after the murders. I emailed you a couple of years ago, to let you know of you ever needed some insider information about some high profile female murderers in South Africa, I met some of them in prison.
I'm in south carolina now ,not far from this place 😳you know it had to be bad if the dog was like that
Late Justice is better than No Justice.
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I love the pic of Rita Shuler and Corporal Johnson. I'd watch a tv show about them, a small mousy old retired forense, and a huge african american police officer solving crimes, and kicking ass!
When its Sunday 3am and you cant sleep, Monsters to the rescue 🎉!
It's Monday here in ETZone
Half asleep, you're right 🤣🤣
Wait...Dr. Flowers was concerned that the person who killed Elaine might break into his office with the stolen keys so he changed the locks? Why not stake out the office for a few weeks before doing that in case the killer DID try to break into his office???? Seems like a simple way to attempt to catch this dude.
The police may have done that, they probably didn’t publicize the lock change.
That was probably the same monster that visit her mother
Thank you Jiles.!! 👍 👍 👍
I'm here ❤
Good evening fellow Monster fans 👹
Bon matin!
Hi, hope you are having a happy day. It wasn't easy listening to this, I had to walk off, omg, my tummy was rolling over
I'm not a native english speaker and I really appreciate the subtitles, it helps me a lot to understand better some words. By the way, I translated "fire stick" and I thought I was wrong, it must be something else since it's impossible to think someone could have the strenght to bend it around a neck....it's quite shocking, I'm so sorry for Gwendolyn and all her struggle trying to escape from this monster!!!! 😔 PS: I really don't believe he is crazy.
Hey Monsters 👋
It's weird hearing this story having lived in Ridgeville sc not even 30 mins from Walterboro I've never heard of this case
This hits home even more bc this happened a city over from where I live 😢
@@BillSams-gj8ey take your time to find out all about hell before you ask me shit. Be blessed now
Wonder if this monster was the perpetrator in the B&E of the mother!? Sometimes fate can answer your questions in the cruelest of ways and you might not even know it .
I wondered the same thing
Had to be smh and the black man seen washing off in the backyard too. On top of the heartbreaking attack of her daughter, I can’t imagine what the mom felt knowing it was him deep down who attacked her too.
Good morning everyone 7:42 in the UK here, have a good day 😊
(Hour after o.p.)-5 a.m. here in Eastern Time Zone-U. S. Have a great day!🙂
Bon matin! It’s 5:00 a.m. here in south Louisiana
Ain't got much money, so I can't yet buy any of your "merch", but I like the "It's never a mannequin" shirt, that's just great.
@@user-qc9ib9ze8r I just thought it was clever. People have been mistaking dead bodies for mannequins since at least 1947 (as I'm sure you know, I'm referring to Elizabeth Short).
@@user-qc9ib9ze8rWhat are you on?
I love this season!
Why are repeat offenders allowed to live or leave jail?
Yay I'm here!
How does one wrap a fire poker around anyone's neck. Those are solid. Must have been incredibly strong.
You have a lovely voice!
Thanks!
4:22 The things that poor dog seen and heard.
Of course the perpetrator of this heinous crime wound up in a mental facility! You'd have to be nuts to do that to anybody period!! The fire poker bent around her neck is terrifying! I refuse to try and imagine what Elaine went thru that night! WTF?!? RIP Elaine, they got him!🌹. I appreciate the T-shirt prices!!
Psychopaths aren't nuts and neither are sexual predators.
Ayooo let's gooo!!!
The issue of older and newer dna was very interesting, I didn’t know the law worked that way.
Right? It’s not like the DNA changes over time. 😊
13:29 If he ends up being the killer, it's a shame he survived. That beautiful inside and out woman would still be with us.
Jiles...love from Ohio. Sinister is great.
3 am here now. Perfect timing. I think there's a monster outside in our neighborhood cuz cops everywhere looking for someone. Thank the Lord I haven't become a monster
Stay safe.
Thank God for Rita! ❤😢😊
Good morning Jiles ❤
0:11 You forgot to include "Somewhat Sinister", for much younger horror and grimdark fans
Jiles, I love you. Thank you
1:25 from Phoenix with❤