Dragon Ball Budokai Tenkaichi 4 was revealed recently and today we have a very important discussion to talk about in regards to how it will handle THIS.
The make or break for me is in-game transformations and fusions. The old games gave us new move sets for transformed characters, taunts, etc. That needs to be a thing in this new one, it made the transformations actually mean something. Speaking of, fusions. I wanna see them be able to be done in game since they haven’t since I think Dragon Ball Fusions.
the best part of budokai tenkaichi 3 was that the game was wildly imbalenced. I loved that you were at a huge disadvantage if you were playing roshi vs perfect cell. I loved that cells absorb attack actually drained a lot of health. I loved that turning into a great ape actually made you way larger. A lot of new fighting games are extremely focused on being balanced competitive games as if they're trying to make a sport out of it and become the next big esport, like nah, give me the trash, i want the doritos of fighting games
I don't think a game that ignores balance will be fun online. I feel like Raging Blast (which was made by the same developers) got it right You could counter a lot of spammers online, deflect super attacks etc. I don't want a super competitive game like Fighterz, but balance is definitely needed I remember when Naruto Storm 2 came out and the online was terrible because of spammers and cheap players. They eventually balanced things out and now Storm 4 is regarded as the best Naruto game
People that says the game was unbalanced are ppl who didn't know how to play nor use special skills with circle when needed. Game was perfect if you knew how to play it.
@@po72644 really depends on why your playing these games. i've never had any interest playing them online, i much prefer to play dragon ball games with friends and doing silly stupid things.
@@bobowon5450 to be honest @sasuke65742 is right because even if your character lets say roshi in this case had less powerful punches or wasnt as fast if you were a decent player you could use dragon sway and dodge all of their punches and counter them off or you could teleport or you could start a combo and stop mid way and use the counter mechanic to get some distance i think the point he was making is that even if some characters were cheap there were always characters specifically designed to counter those in some way and every character could dragon sway or counter mid combo so those were the balancing that youre speaking of you literally just needed to know how to play the game and use the mechanics it wasnt some high level thing it was literally normal gameplay
I personally think 125 characters with a like 5% overlap is a good idea because i loved the “early” “mid” “end” thing where characters had some of the same animations and transformations but different attacks relating to that character. For example: early Ssj gokus angry kamehameha and the mid version gokus instant transmission kamehameha.
Yeah, 120 is the number I hope for at bare minimum. Though I'd trim down the Gokus. A Z Goku, gt Goku and a DBS Goku. Maybe a kid Goku but I'm not too concerned if they cut OG Dragon Ball as long as Master Roshi is playable.
You got your Gokus mixed up. Mid Super Saiyan Goku had Angry Kamehameha while the End one has Instant Kamehameha. There is no Early Super Saiyan Goku, since Early Goku is based on the Saiyan Saga.
@@dougtheghoul2845 NAH DUDE. More games should include OG DB and Tenkaichi's giant rosters should mean we should really get Kid Goku, Roshi, and King Piccolo AT LEAST.
One thing I really want is just being able to transform into multiple forms again. That was one thing I could never get over when it came to the xenoverse series cause the only transformation you could use was the one you had equipped except for super saiyan. I want to be able to use goku's super saiyan forms and his god forms in the same battle. It just makes the match more fun in my opinion
You forgot kaioken having multiple levels but ya that would be better. Also let us decide what level we want instead of how much ki we have. Some times I just want ssj2 but I get 3 since my ki is over 5 bars
@@zwillscoopchannel9689 they could do something like budokai where you equip which transformations you want for that character or have costumes for certain arcs that have all transformations up to that point (cell saga Goku would have all kaioken, ss1 grades 1-4
I'm surprised not many content creator have mentioned this, but being able to do the fusion dance or potara fusion in game would be awesome to do again.
I want the epic cutscenes where the character transforms in the middle of battle. It was always so fun fighting people as base goku and slowly going up to super saiyan 1-3 as the fights go on with the cutscene showing it. If they don’t have that I’ll be upset lol
Yeah man! I remember playing split screen with my buddy and picking Goku and Vegeta for my team. Slowly powering up ro SS1, SS2 and eventually fusing into Vegito or Gogeta. That was so epic to do!
@@itsKenzin my fondest memory was just picking goku while my little brother chose like 6 characters for a team and just slowly powering up more as the battle went on
Closest thing to a breaking point for me is if they don't bring back or expand upon fully destructible environments. I still remeber one instance as a kid my cousin was playing Vegeta and I was Goku and fired a point blank Final Flash in the Cell Map, it nuked everything around, yet some how missed me despite me being point blank. Had us reeling.
I just wanna be able to play Moro so bad. They should definitely bring back map destruction, beam clashes, and giant transformations. Being able to have Hirudegarn vs cell max would be amazing. I'm also hoping they make more interactive maps like kicking your opponents out of the city into the desert area or throwing your opponent into the side of a building like raging blast had and what if scenarios like super buu absorbing tien in budokai. That would be dope.
@@roxtechs That's not true. Naruto Storm 4, a project that was created by Bandai, released the ending of the new story before the anime did. For context, Storm 4 came out Febuary 2016 and the story mode adapted the Kaguya arc. The Kaguya arc never finished in the anime until like October 2016.
@@jantheking7028 depends on the franchise as well It's also up to the major stake holders such as Shueisha or Toei to green light the use of thier characters. If they allow the characters to be used then the devs can add them
I hope the characters have the customizable stuff like Raging Blast 2 did. It was really cool being able to change characters charging auras, halo/scouters, etc. Just without the prerequisite that Raging blast 2 had where you had to grind out each characters points to be able to equip all of that stuff
While I don’t really have any breaking points, one thing that would suck for me (other than the game NOT being tenkaichi) would be if characters like Frieza and Cell not being able to transform into their other forms. Another thing I guess would the lack of a story mode. I know people might not want the same old story we’ve been getting for so long, but it’s at least something to do and I want these games to start getting into stuff (that is, if Kakarot doesn’t do it first)
This isn't a make or break feature, but I'd love to see the return of forms being different "characters" with their own combo animations and super attacks. Heck, just do what Raging Blast did and let us use any costume with any form and customize each form's abilities.
Personally I want them to cut down on that. The one character has ~many forms. Let me power up to them, changing the moves and manurisms. They already had that mildly. Naturally, outside of oddities like GT Goku who was reverted to a kid (and a different univers) for those type of situations sure. 2-3 characters as they are technically different iterations makes sense. IDK. Maybe I'm putting too much faith in the hardware or developers, but I think that would be cool.
Definitely if they radically change the core fighting system. It's the gameplay and the creativity it allowed that drew me to the series as a kid. Especially Tenkaichi 3.
Arale needs to come back! She was my raid boss in the entire Budokai Tenkaichi 3 that little girl was the toughest fight I ever had every other character was pretty easy to deal with xD Beam clashes as well as fist clashes were what made me actually feel like I am in the game fighting as the character because you actually had to roll those control sticks like your life depended on it xD
The massive roster is what i want And of course story mode. I hope we get a super long story mode, going from og dragon ball to super hero, and if they REALLY wanna go over the top, being back what if saga… Also i want a fun return of world tournament and cell games, and of course the various other modes like all tenkaichi and raging blast series
I think it depends on what you means by unique. For example, I think names saga base goku and super saiyan goku feel very different to me in bt3, but the biggest difference is honestly they just have different animations. They mostly have the same combos in terms of inputs, but the wide visual difference makes them feel unique to me. I think everyone will have the main mash one button combo as they did in bt3. I don’t think it’s plausible to do otherwise. Honestly, fighterz barely pulled unique combos with a 40 character roster. But the way I could see them trying to make differentiations in this game would be adding more support supers like explosive wave and wild sense, and by adding in more rush combos. Cause currently there’s: rush of high fast attacks, guard break, bitch slap guard break, small invisible ki wave, big invisible ki wave, and big visible ki wave. If they added more and spread that out to more characters as well as giving all of the rush attacks more follow ups, I think that could give a lot of uniqueness and depth to the game really easily
@@starrk5627 I agree, but people seem to be upset with that idea. So part of what I was saying is just that different animations can have a bigger impact on feel than one might think
I think the main thing the characters should have his different super attacks like in xenoverse and also a variety of combo animations. Of course some animation will be shared but there are only so many ways to throw a punch and throw your enemy (XV2 does this as well).
man u talk about what u hope to see and what they add me the way games have been going i just hope its good who knows what kind of game there making i have hope but idk still luv the vids though keep it up and TY
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I think the western version will probably keep budokai tenkaichi 4 for consistency where the japanese version will have the sparking name with whatever suffix I hope it's sparking zero because that just sounds dope and sort of keeps the idea of revitalizing the series in the modern era.
Pretty sure that was the point there. Sparking IS what it's called in the motherland. It's everywhere else that they MAY keep the tried and true "Budokai Tenkaichi...." going or change it for "reasons"
Considering the teaser ended off with SSB Goku, I'm 80% sure the new game will probably be called "Dragon Ball Super: Budokai Tenkaichi", a soft reboot that will try to bring back as much stuff as possible. Emphasis on TRY, since I know for a fact we won't reach a 161-character roster like Tenkaichi 3. Though, considering the new Goku model seems to take cues from Raging Blast Goku, it wouldn't surprise me if they used some of those old RB assets and build up from that.
I think we'll get a lot closer to the character count than a lot think, ik it's this way in the storm series, but aren't the individual forms counted as their own characters? Ik they have different movesets and there's gonna be like say, kid Goku, maybe teen 23 BT Goku, early z, mid, late z, super so like 6 Goku's 😭
I feel like a large part of the fun of budokai tenkaichi is that despite a lot of characters sharing attacks, you could learn to play once and then you can play any character without much adjustment. If they made every character unique it'd be cool, but also you'd have to learn how to play every different character from the ground up
Loved the roster how there was characters serperated by sagas. So there was a saiyan saga goku, mid, end that was really cool to me. Loved all the costumes as well.
Make or break for me is the roster and the story. If I see another retelling of dragon ball z imma be upset however, I also want the roster to be big too I felt like I could as anybody in bt3 so I want a massive roster mainly of z and super characters. Including GT and Dragon ball characters might be too big of a stretch considering we are talking Bandai there is gonna be a bunch of dlc for this game. Basically what I'm trying to say is I wanna play Monaka vs SSB Vegito
I liked Raging Blast 2 more than Tenkaichi 3 but they had so many similarities that I don't mind. A VERY GOOD THING THOUGH... Raging Blast 2 looked very pretty graphics and animation wise and BT4 will even look much better with a massive roster probably. Copy and pasting animations is not an issue for me since BT3 did that a lot but these days you have tone it down a little since the expectations rose the more modern things got in gaming^^
one thing i loved about the old tenkaichi games was just how much special moves all of the characters had. specifically 3, i feel like if this is just a one game thing they could make the roster shorter at a flat 100 characters and after dlc maybe it shoots up to 190 or 180. what want to see is just how much you will be able to do with the characters like you have to keep fusion transformations and put in the messed up fusions
When it comes to BT3 people always talk about the roster but the strongest thing about BT3 is the gameplay . It’s nearly flawless , emulates the series very well and is the main reason it’s had the longevity it’s had . If bt4 can port the same gameplay style but updated it’ll be great
@@starrk5627 They should add a few more things you can do tbh. Otherwise it'll just be Tenkaichi 3 with better Graphics which is basically what RB2 was.
Make or break for me is tied between having the iconic 5v5 I'd he okay with 4 or even three, but it has to have it. Also, it needs the world martial arts tournament, no if ands or buts .
The most important thing to me is the character roster i understand there will be dlc but I do want a decent roster to start and I’m hoping they have OG DB characters
Characters with tons of forms should have costumes for specific arcs (like XV/2). Story wise, I would love for them to have in-engine cutscenes so they can really put time into morphing around the character models. I just hope they keep the combo systems from the old games maybe make burst counters not take health so a slight rework or ki
It's a fine line when creating fighting styles cuz some might be better overall thus creating meta-fights instead of actually choosing favorite characters but this is just a possibility
Since the announcement trailer was the old games and transitioning a transformation from old to updated graphics, I'm very hopeful for the same series. Hard to think if every player is unique because of limited iniquity in their few fights. I assume anything in the manga that has yet to be animated is DLC because of avoiding spoilers and being unknown to fans.
Something I want that I'm sure not many are talking about is co-op / 2v2 3v3 and maybe 4v4 since it would be great to have fun teaming uo friends against others or the com I would love change maps the duel shock system ect I do want characters to be more unique but I can see them making characters like fasha generic if they are added since she don't really do much
The make or break for me is Mid-Battle transformations, Giant characters, environmental destruction, characters like; Eighter, Roshi, Appule, Frieza Soilder, Pilaf Gang, Fasha, and the return of sayain armor Trunks. Not any of that armor with sword bs Xenoverse pulled but actual Base trunks-Super Trunks like BT3
Funny that I'm not mad to have DLC characters and losing characters bc like you said Copy and Paste attack, combos, special. I like to see dragon Ball come back too bc when I unlock Future Gohan in BT3 I was sooo hype when I got him ,I like to see that again . All and All I'm hype as l hell for sure 😎. Also if that don't added no fun game modes like Imma be upset the sim days ,tag/5vs5 team,Cpu fights, Tournaments modes and the Chi-Chi roasting all the characters 😂😂😂
I’m cool with some same combos on similar characters. Like I’m cool with Frieza and Frost being relatively Copy paste as long as someone like Beerus or Hit are unique.
I would like a lot for them to take mechanics from previous games like stunning someone in a wall, dig a hole in the ground when pinning down someone from the air like in Raging Blast and deflecting ki supers just before getting hit. They have endless possibilities now with the new hardware.
I'm surprised that you don't think arale will make an appearance considering she has actualy appeared in super I dont think she was particularly good but was always fun to just see her running around lol
I've only ever played budokai tenkaiichi 3 on wii, and I loved it. Can't really play it anymore since I lost the game, but actually doing the Kamehameha was fire. Actually playing it on console, I guess I'm just excited for the roster and beam struggles
The breaking point for me is literally the combo / fighting system If the game integrates the tenkiachi fight system like how you can transform into every form and how you combo That’s what makes it special
Needs: struggles/clashes are a must, characters that have their own transformations and playstyles, fun/unique characters, fun story mode (bt2 style) Get rid of: reskins of other characters.
So rhyme has a good point tenkaichi had so many chars in the past just because the lack of hardware i cannot imagine a roster super super huge with beam struggles and super godly transformation animations with super amazing flashy super attacks with such little time. At best we get ALL of this with maybe like 75 stock characters on release with a shit ton of DLC or they make more series down the line. Im honestly just hoping transformations and super attacks hold up with at least up to black arc characters for stock (main roster) main roster GT characters and many dbz characters. We have to be realistic here if the super attacks and forms are gonna look GODLY i don't think we should hope for a super massive roster rn
I hope it will be called dragon ball super budokai tenkaichi. [Edit] While yes there where a lot of characters that had similar moves, there was a lot of uniqueness among a lot of the characters. Like for example some characters ki blasts where faster etc. Jagger1407 is one of the people in the budokai tenkaichi competitive scene that completely debunks the statement that every character played the same.
In dragon ball bt3 I 3 main 5v5 teams cuz that's how me and my friends played 1 easy 2 medium 3 death. Team 1 was kid Goku, kid Chi-Chi, grandpa Gohan, Master roshi and bardok. Team 2 had the same list except swap roshi and Gohan for fasha trunks cell games/fighting. Team 3 My main team trunks cell games/fighting, bardok,kid Chi-Chi or videl, broly and ss4 gogeta. So for me it's going to be a bit of a let down if we don't get the roster back from bt3 and then they just add dragon ball super and super dragon ball heroes characters cuz dragon ball Budokai Tenkaichi 3 was a game were you could take a character who had like a bar and half and fight someone who had 3x that and it would be canon cuz it be like kid Goku vs omega sheron or something it was great and my favorite part was the story mode and actually unlocking stuff via world tournament mode and the shop and story mode especially the what if scenarios.
I think the main thing that the new game has to sell me on is the overall speed being just like Tenkaichi 3. One of the main gripes I had with Raging Blast is while it did add new elements and mechanics to the system, it overall felt WAY slower than BT3.(that said I’d love some of RB mechanics to come back for BT4). The overall core gameplay of Tenkaichi is built with all the staples of DB in mind so I’m not worried about stuff like Beam Struggles and tag team ideas. But I need the overall speed of the game to be just like, If not at least VERY close to the original games.
If another trailer for the new DBZBT game comes out. I'm expecting them to show off Vegeta's SSGSS Evolved transformation in the trailer because since this form wasn't put in DBFZ. I believe it'll be in the next trailer for more hype
Just want a shitton of characters. I remember me as a kid just watching videos on UA-cam with ALL the characters in Tenkaichi 3 before I got it myself! I loved it!
Dragon Ball: Sparking! REVIVAL in Japan and BT4 everywhere else would be my guess I'd love a large roster but with every character being unique more specifically in regards to as minimal move sharing as possible like the Frieza Soldiers and that sort of thing, I'm not gonna be mad If Perfect Cell has a chargeable Kamehameha but having like around 20 characters all with "Full Power Energy Wave" is ridiculous. Ideally it'd be like around 100 characters with all of them being unique. Would love the story mode to be an even more improved version of how BT3 did but with BT2's depth in regards to the what-if's. Hell I'd love a story mode like BT2's where you could transform into forms characters shouldn't have yet and they could add in reactions to like Saiyan saga characters seeing Goku go like Super Saiyan 3 and everything
This will be called Dragon Ball Fighterz Super. The ransomware attack on August 2022 at Bandai Namco had its logo revealed by a dataminer before he was fired. The engine of Budokai Tenkaichi is getting used but the mechanics of Fighterz is implemented
Growing up I had ultimate battle 22, and burst limit because my family didn't have a lot of money, I played the heck outta burst limit, I got XenoVerse 1 later in life, I was like 15, then I got XenoVerse 2 in 2018, I never got to experience the Budokai Tenkaichi 3 greatness, so this new game will be my introduction to the Tenkaichi series, I hope it's just a good game, with a awesome story mode
I don’t have a breaking point thing that will make me not get it. But I would love to have some cool side modes like in the og budokai 1-3. I personally preferred the control scheme of budokai 3 and infinite world over tenkaichi. But the cool side modes like Hercules quest or whatever would be fun to see added
Make or Break features (for me): - Beam and attack clashes - Destructible stages/environments - Good cinematic ultimates - Transforming and detransforming in-game - Big characters being to the correct scale One thing I'd actually like them to do is allow us to build our characters move sets and item usage like in the original Budokai games. GT Goku using "Early" Goku's Angry Kamehameha would be dope. Or SSB Vegeta using Dirty Fireworks
Looking forward to a new tournament mode. Calling it here: Tournament of Power, an overly massive tournament that can include every character in the game. And like the old Cell Games tournament, the final battle will always be against Jiren.
The most important thing they need to perfect is COMBAT. The best thing for me about Tenkaichi 3 was how satisfying it felt to perform combos, perfect vanishes, beam clashes, Rushes. And also the fact that most of the characters weren't broken. For ex Broly even though he has Super Armor it doesn't work on characters like Ssj3 Goku, Fusion Characters, Gt Characters, Kid Buu and Arale.
I seriously want a jukebox mode with old music from old budokai and tenkaichi games to be played. Tekken has it I think it’d be a phenomenal feature in the new bt game
In terms of roster I hope that at the very least it has all the main characters from the arcs, if it skips people like garlic Jr im not gonna care as much compared to if they don't add someone like dbz 17
The Roster has to be huge. That was the biggest part of Tenkaichi. Tenkaichi 3 had 98 characters on PS2. There's no reason this game shouldn't have at least that or surpass it. With the state of game development sadly, we will probably get 50 to start, and then like 10 DLC packs with like 4 or 5 characters FighterZ style. I have high hopes though. Best case scenario we get 150 characters by the time its at its peak before they stop releasing content.
I just really hope there will be a way to change the health bar to how you desireand everything else will stay the same with some improvement and really hope not dlc for charcters
The make or break for me is if they slow down/dumb down the gameplay. The insanely fast paced, hyper responsive and buttery smooth controls are the reason I still come back to BT3. Future titles like Raging Blast 1, RB 2 and Xenoverse feel so sluggish and unresponsive in comparison. which is why I rarely return to those after completing their story modes.
I think my biggest things for BT4 are the return of clashes (both melee and beam), unique roster, and transformations. I want to be able to start at base and work my way up through UI and stuff. I guess I want my fights against friends to feel like an actual dragon ball battle again instead of just another fighting game. When do y'all think we'll get more updates on the game?
I know movies will probably go DLC, and maybe what if fights like BT3 will also be DLC like Jiren v. Broly. The only thing that could make me not want it is something like Ultimate Tenkaichi
I would love to see a vid of you using blue eyes and one of the other two idiots using red eyes, maybe the one that is left out could join with another dragon, like stardust, red arch fiend dragon, or black rose, and it could be a vid like the three idiots god duel
I think it's going to be called Dragon Ball Super Tenkaichi. From the in-development name being Zero. They're definitely going to soften expectations (of the large roster specifically) by having it be the start of a new tenkaichi franchise.
my guess it is will be a vastly remastered bt3 with dragon ball,dragon ball z,dragonball gt,and dragon ball super with the story missions following the anime everything past the super anime will probably be dlc,and i can expect all of the movies to be sagas kind of like bow bt2 did them with upto the super broly movie being part of base game and beast gohans moview being dlc,ultra ego vegeta will probably be dlc also
Wish list 1.Story mode - DBZ + Super DLC story - original DB + GT 2. Same mechanics as old in game fusion, destructible world, beam clashes etc… 3. Dramatic Finishes (ALL movie characters ONLY) 4. Good Online mode ??? P vs. P ??? 5. Manga ??? Moro, Merus, Ultra ego Vegeta, Granola, etc…
Idk why but ever since I saw the teaser it just reminded me of how they did storm 4 where it got all of the characters from the last 3 with a good story mode and dlc for characters and costumes then alittle bit later gave us a trilogy for the last 3 games so we could play all 4 main storm games and I could honestly see them doing that for budokai tenkaichi where we get 4 with a lot of characters and stuff then dlc to give us what they couldn’t give yet then after that give us a trilogy and legacy so we could play all 4 budokai tenkaichi games on new gen
Gameplay or bust. Being able to string together a crapton of combos with square and then triangle depending on how much you pressed square or triangle in a direction. That one little piece of depth to the fighting mechanics is what makes these games great for me. Obviously the flying, beam clashes, and special moves as well that all work together but like you said yourself, raging blast was a dumbed down version of Tenkaichi. So they need to take the Tenkaichi formula and take it a step up in terms of how you can attack or maybe defend this time. Dodging in a game like Burst Limit was one of the most satisfying things ever, maybe they could bring something like that back.
Yeah I agree it will be nice if they can make everybody unique but I'll be a lot of work but we already got the next gen consoles that's a decision that they should think about
I hope they will get the best from Tenkaichi 2 and 3 and some good things from Raging blast and make this the perfect Tenkaichi I would be really pissed off if we don't get oldskool Tournament mode and good local splitscreen play, that kinda could break it for me😅 I don't mind some copy paste for the characters like frieza soldiers and some character who we seen less in action in the anime/movies
For me its transformations its needs to be like the old games where you can go from ssj and up but I also want transformations for other characters too like zarbon, boujack, frieza, ect. One more thing we absolutely need beam struggles and fist clashes again. But like tenkaichi.
This game absolutely needs to have some good online. Like I wanna be able to play with my friends like they’re next to me. Also bring back Tarble. He’s unpopular but I like him lol. Also Tournament mode and ring outs are a absolute MUST
Dragon Ball Super: Budokai Tenkaichi. Calling it.
I can see that name happening lol
same
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I'm sorry But Z is the more popular brand of the franchise
@@Vic4vendetta It’s not gonna be Z dawg. It’s present day. It’s everything super now. Kakarot focused on Z.
The make or break for me is in-game transformations and fusions. The old games gave us new move sets for transformed characters, taunts, etc. That needs to be a thing in this new one, it made the transformations actually mean something. Speaking of, fusions. I wanna see them be able to be done in game since they haven’t since I think Dragon Ball Fusions.
This comment. 👌 I absolutely agree.
100% agree
I cant remember the last time i was able to transform in game with og broly might've been raging blast
Budokai tenkachi 3 do so fun still
More then raging blast 2 and infinitief world
100% agree I just want it to play like tenkiachi 3 they shouldn’t take any mechanics out.
Ive also been thinking about this. But the fact that the trailer showed the old BT gameplays made me feel more assured that I'll be a traditional BT
the best part of budokai tenkaichi 3 was that the game was wildly imbalenced. I loved that you were at a huge disadvantage if you were playing roshi vs perfect cell. I loved that cells absorb attack actually drained a lot of health. I loved that turning into a great ape actually made you way larger. A lot of new fighting games are extremely focused on being balanced competitive games as if they're trying to make a sport out of it and become the next big esport, like nah, give me the trash, i want the doritos of fighting games
I don't think a game that ignores balance will be fun online. I feel like Raging Blast (which was made by the same developers) got it right
You could counter a lot of spammers online, deflect super attacks etc. I don't want a super competitive game like Fighterz, but balance is definitely needed
I remember when Naruto Storm 2 came out and the online was terrible because of spammers and cheap players. They eventually balanced things out and now Storm 4 is regarded as the best Naruto game
People that says the game was unbalanced are ppl who didn't know how to play nor use special skills with circle when needed. Game was perfect if you knew how to play it.
@@sasuke65743 so you think, all things being equal about the players. that Master roshi is just as strong and viable as super saiyan 4 gogeta?
@@po72644 really depends on why your playing these games. i've never had any interest playing them online, i much prefer to play dragon ball games with friends and doing silly stupid things.
@@bobowon5450 to be honest @sasuke65742 is right because even if your character lets say roshi in this case had less powerful punches or wasnt as fast if you were a decent player you could use dragon sway and dodge all of their punches and counter them off or you could teleport or you could start a combo and stop mid way and use the counter mechanic to get some distance i think the point he was making is that even if some characters were cheap there were always characters specifically designed to counter those in some way and every character could dragon sway or counter mid combo so those were the balancing that youre speaking of you literally just needed to know how to play the game and use the mechanics it wasnt some high level thing it was literally normal gameplay
I personally think 125 characters with a like 5% overlap is a good idea because i loved the “early” “mid” “end” thing where characters had some of the same animations and transformations but different attacks relating to that character. For example: early Ssj gokus angry kamehameha and the mid version gokus instant transmission kamehameha.
Yeah, 120 is the number I hope for at bare minimum.
Though I'd trim down the Gokus. A Z Goku, gt Goku and a DBS Goku. Maybe a kid Goku but I'm not too concerned if they cut OG Dragon Ball as long as Master Roshi is playable.
@@dougtheghoul2845 dont forget eighter as well
You got your Gokus mixed up. Mid Super Saiyan Goku had Angry Kamehameha while the End one has Instant Kamehameha. There is no Early Super Saiyan Goku, since Early Goku is based on the Saiyan Saga.
@@FurNieR11945 fair point but regardless
@@dougtheghoul2845 NAH DUDE. More games should include OG DB and Tenkaichi's giant rosters should mean we should really get Kid Goku, Roshi, and King Piccolo AT LEAST.
Honestly the breaking point for me would be lack of costume changes. All I want is to play as SSJ2 Teen gohan in his Saiyan armor or Boujack outfit.
I want end of z gi god, blue, and ui Goku so bad man 😭 shit just ssj1-3 with his end of z gi 😭
Oh yeah!
@@bussinnutsfuckinbutts5368 always wanted to play as adult Goku with his GT clothes myself man
I’ve always wanted to play as teen gohan from the broly movie
teen gohan never used that armor but that'd be cool
One thing I really want is just being able to transform into multiple forms again. That was one thing I could never get over when it came to the xenoverse series cause the only transformation you could use was the one you had equipped except for super saiyan. I want to be able to use goku's super saiyan forms and his god forms in the same battle. It just makes the match more fun in my opinion
You forgot kaioken having multiple levels but ya that would be better. Also let us decide what level we want instead of how much ki we have. Some times I just want ssj2 but I get 3 since my ki is over 5 bars
@@zwillscoopchannel9689 they could do something like budokai where you equip which transformations you want for that character or have costumes for certain arcs that have all transformations up to that point (cell saga Goku would have all kaioken, ss1 grades 1-4
I'm surprised not many content creator have mentioned this, but being able to do the fusion dance or potara fusion in game would be awesome to do again.
Facts I loved that in the older games
I want the epic cutscenes where the character transforms in the middle of battle. It was always so fun fighting people as base goku and slowly going up to super saiyan 1-3 as the fights go on with the cutscene showing it. If they don’t have that I’ll be upset lol
I agree I don’t want them taking mechanics like this out of the game I want them to keep the transformations, fusion, beam struggle.
Yeah man! I remember playing split screen with my buddy and picking Goku and Vegeta for my team. Slowly powering up ro SS1, SS2 and eventually fusing into Vegito or Gogeta. That was so epic to do!
@@itsKenzin my fondest memory was just picking goku while my little brother chose like 6 characters for a team and just slowly powering up more as the battle went on
@@timekreepers they will have transformation would be dumb if they didn’t have transformation
@@timekreepers even ultimate tenkaichi had it🤦♂️
My deal breaker is if the character transformations are separate characters. I love being in base form and powering up mid fight
We need survival mode in Tenkaichi 4 like going against every single character I would like to see that
Agree!
Ultimate battle from al Three old tenkaichi games
Closest thing to a breaking point for me is if they don't bring back or expand upon fully destructible environments. I still remeber one instance as a kid my cousin was playing Vegeta and I was Goku and fired a point blank Final Flash in the Cell Map, it nuked everything around, yet some how missed me despite me being point blank. Had us reeling.
I just wanna be able to play Moro so bad. They should definitely bring back map destruction, beam clashes, and giant transformations. Being able to have Hirudegarn vs cell max would be amazing. I'm also hoping they make more interactive maps like kicking your opponents out of the city into the desert area or throwing your opponent into the side of a building like raging blast had and what if scenarios like super buu absorbing tien in budokai. That would be dope.
Video games are not allowed to adapt anything that’s in the manga until it has an official anime adaptation.
^^
Moro most likely would be dlc since it's manga related stuff that hasn't been animated yet. Even the gatcha mobile games don't have him yet
@@roxtechs That's not true. Naruto Storm 4, a project that was created by Bandai, released the ending of the new story before the anime did. For context, Storm 4 came out Febuary 2016 and the story mode adapted the Kaguya arc. The Kaguya arc never finished in the anime until like October 2016.
@@jantheking7028 depends on the franchise as well
It's also up to the major stake holders such as Shueisha or Toei to green light the use of thier characters.
If they allow the characters to be used then the devs can add them
I hope the characters have the customizable stuff like Raging Blast 2 did. It was really cool being able to change characters charging auras, halo/scouters, etc. Just without the prerequisite that Raging blast 2 had where you had to grind out each characters points to be able to equip all of that stuff
While I don’t really have any breaking points, one thing that would suck for me (other than the game NOT being tenkaichi) would be if characters like Frieza and Cell not being able to transform into their other forms. Another thing I guess would the lack of a story mode. I know people might not want the same old story we’ve been getting for so long, but it’s at least something to do and I want these games to start getting into stuff (that is, if Kakarot doesn’t do it first)
It’s a tenkaichi game +transformations have always been there
This isn't a make or break feature, but I'd love to see the return of forms being different "characters" with their own combo animations and super attacks. Heck, just do what Raging Blast did and let us use any costume with any form and customize each form's abilities.
This, ik everyone wants bt4 but honestly I hope this is rb3 in disguise 😭
Personally I want them to cut down on that. The one character has ~many forms. Let me power up to them, changing the moves and manurisms. They already had that mildly.
Naturally, outside of oddities like GT Goku who was reverted to a kid (and a different univers) for those type of situations sure. 2-3 characters as they are technically different iterations makes sense.
IDK. Maybe I'm putting too much faith in the hardware or developers, but I think that would be cool.
Exactly
Definitely if they radically change the core fighting system. It's the gameplay and the creativity it allowed that drew me to the series as a kid. Especially Tenkaichi 3.
Arale needs to come back! She was my raid boss in the entire Budokai Tenkaichi 3 that little girl was the toughest fight I ever had every other character was pretty easy to deal with xD Beam clashes as well as fist clashes were what made me actually feel like I am in the game fighting as the character because you actually had to roll those control sticks like your life depended on it xD
The massive roster is what i want
And of course story mode. I hope we get a super long story mode, going from og dragon ball to super hero, and if they REALLY wanna go over the top, being back what if saga…
Also i want a fun return of world tournament and cell games, and of course the various other modes like all tenkaichi and raging blast series
I think it depends on what you means by unique. For example, I think names saga base goku and super saiyan goku feel very different to me in bt3, but the biggest difference is honestly they just have different animations. They mostly have the same combos in terms of inputs, but the wide visual difference makes them feel unique to me. I think everyone will have the main mash one button combo as they did in bt3. I don’t think it’s plausible to do otherwise. Honestly, fighterz barely pulled unique combos with a 40 character roster. But the way I could see them trying to make differentiations in this game would be adding more support supers like explosive wave and wild sense, and by adding in more rush combos. Cause currently there’s: rush of high fast attacks, guard break, bitch slap guard break, small invisible ki wave, big invisible ki wave, and big visible ki wave. If they added more and spread that out to more characters as well as giving all of the rush attacks more follow ups, I think that could give a lot of uniqueness and depth to the game really easily
Since this isn't a competitive fighting game, its not bad that all characters have the same input and different animations.
@@starrk5627 I agree, but people seem to be upset with that idea. So part of what I was saying is just that different animations can have a bigger impact on feel than one might think
I think the main thing the characters should have his different super attacks like in xenoverse and also a variety of combo animations. Of course some animation will be shared but there are only so many ways to throw a punch and throw your enemy (XV2 does this as well).
man u talk about what u hope to see and what they add me the way games have been going i just hope its good who knows what kind of game there making i have hope but idk still luv the vids though keep it up and TY
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I think the western version will probably keep budokai tenkaichi 4 for consistency where the japanese version will have the sparking name with whatever suffix I hope it's sparking zero because that just sounds dope and sort of keeps the idea of revitalizing the series in the modern era.
Pretty sure that was the point there. Sparking IS what it's called in the motherland.
It's everywhere else that they MAY keep the tried and true "Budokai Tenkaichi...." going or change it for "reasons"
Considering the teaser ended off with SSB Goku, I'm 80% sure the new game will probably be called "Dragon Ball Super: Budokai Tenkaichi", a soft reboot that will try to bring back as much stuff as possible. Emphasis on TRY, since I know for a fact we won't reach a 161-character roster like Tenkaichi 3. Though, considering the new Goku model seems to take cues from Raging Blast Goku, it wouldn't surprise me if they used some of those old RB assets and build up from that.
I think we'll get a lot closer to the character count than a lot think, ik it's this way in the storm series, but aren't the individual forms counted as their own characters? Ik they have different movesets and there's gonna be like say, kid Goku, maybe teen 23 BT Goku, early z, mid, late z, super so like 6 Goku's 😭
Yea a soft reboot which is crazy yea these fools nowadays like soft Shìt
This new tenkaichi is gonna be garbage. Mark my words
@@masterofreality5528 what’s the point of being so negative about it, shit had no limelight in nearly two decades and here we are
@@hustot1353 Bcs they ruined Tekken
7 and many other fighting games. Probably there will be Dlc characters and control alterations.
I feel like a large part of the fun of budokai tenkaichi is that despite a lot of characters sharing attacks, you could learn to play once and then you can play any character without much adjustment. If they made every character unique it'd be cool, but also you'd have to learn how to play every different character from the ground up
Loved the roster how there was characters serperated by sagas. So there was a saiyan saga goku, mid, end that was really cool to me. Loved all the costumes as well.
I’d really love to see a tenkaichi tag team style mode where you can have 2v2 matches.
Make or break for me is the roster and the story. If I see another retelling of dragon ball z imma be upset however, I also want the roster to be big too I felt like I could as anybody in bt3 so I want a massive roster mainly of z and super characters. Including GT and Dragon ball characters might be too big of a stretch considering we are talking Bandai there is gonna be a bunch of dlc for this game.
Basically what I'm trying to say is I wanna play Monaka vs SSB Vegito
Z gon b in it dufus along with super gt and db it’s dat simple and most def what ifs
GT and Dragon Ball will probably be DLCs
The costumes and just the added effect of timing your punches and kicks perfectly with that classic boom effect was always fire
They need a gamemode where there is 1v1-4v4 with all fighters on the field
WITH IN-GAME FUSIONS!
But seriously, take what Tag Team did and expand upon it.
@MUI Goku Black so true, would be a great game mode, especially with unfusing being a mechanic
@@muigokublack6487 but if two people play the tag characters who gets to be in control?
@@cralj The person who initiated the fusion like in Tag Team.
They’d have to fundamentally change Tenkaichi’s combat for that to work. This is better for Xenoverse.
My make or break point would be the hand-to-hand combat. The crazy amount of variations that the bt games had with ur combo building was insane!
They definitely gonna call it somethin weird like dragon ball super tenkaichi sparking z breakerverse 4
Bros from the future
I liked Raging Blast 2 more than Tenkaichi 3 but they had so many similarities that I don't mind. A VERY GOOD THING THOUGH... Raging Blast 2 looked very pretty graphics and animation wise and BT4 will even look much better with a massive roster probably. Copy and pasting animations is not an issue for me since BT3 did that a lot but these days you have tone it down a little since the expectations rose the more modern things got in gaming^^
I'm setting my expectations low so when it does come out I'll be blown away.
one thing i loved about the old tenkaichi games was just how much special moves all of the characters had. specifically 3, i feel like if this is just a one game thing they could make the roster shorter at a flat 100 characters and after dlc maybe it shoots up to 190 or 180. what want to see is just how much you will be able to do with the characters like you have to keep fusion transformations and put in the messed up fusions
When it comes to BT3 people always talk about the roster but the strongest thing about BT3 is the gameplay . It’s nearly flawless , emulates the series very well and is the main reason it’s had the longevity it’s had . If bt4 can port the same gameplay style but updated it’ll be great
Yeah people are talking about this or that will be my "make or break" but the gameplay is the most important. They don't need to touch it lol.
@@starrk5627 They should add a few more things you can do tbh. Otherwise it'll just be Tenkaichi 3 with better Graphics which is basically what RB2 was.
I think they probably have a good 60-80 characters with unique play style and then drop more characters with dlc
The dlc options are scary 😱
@@scramblz5053 terrifying really 😅😭
I just hope that they add more and don't take away. Keep everything that we loved and made this series and just add on to it.
I'm looking forward to Rhyme and Seereax bantering with each other playing the BT4 demo like back in the Xenoverse 2 days
I think it’s gonna be called “DragonBallSuper Budokai Tenkaichi”
Honestly it seems like most plausible one to me.
Also I kinda want a cpu vs cpu mode
@@ssgotaku8036 This was so goofy. I loved to watch these fights when they just were standing around for a while xD
It’s all about Budokai Tenkaichi 4 these days
We went 16 years without BT4, and Budokai Tenkaichi content in general was scarce until a few months ago. Don't complain now.
Make or break for me is tied between having the iconic 5v5 I'd he okay with 4 or even three, but it has to have it. Also, it needs the world martial arts tournament, no if ands or buts .
The most important thing to me is the character roster i understand there will be dlc but I do want a decent roster to start and I’m hoping they have OG DB characters
Characters with tons of forms should have costumes for specific arcs (like XV/2). Story wise, I would love for them to have in-engine cutscenes so they can really put time into morphing around the character models. I just hope they keep the combo systems from the old games maybe make burst counters not take health so a slight rework or ki
It's a fine line when creating fighting styles cuz some might be better overall thus creating meta-fights instead of actually choosing favorite characters but this is just a possibility
Since the announcement trailer was the old games and transitioning a transformation from old to updated graphics, I'm very hopeful for the same series. Hard to think if every player is unique because of limited iniquity in their few fights. I assume anything in the manga that has yet to be animated is DLC because of avoiding spoilers and being unknown to fans.
I can’t wait for this game to come out and for u to make sum content on it bc Ik it’s gone be funny 🤣🤣
Something I want that I'm sure not many are talking about is co-op / 2v2 3v3 and maybe 4v4 since it would be great to have fun teaming uo friends against others or the com
I would love change maps the duel shock system ect I do want characters to be more unique but I can see them making characters like fasha generic if they are added since she don't really do much
I hope you and seereax bring random battles to tenkaichi 4 when it comes out. Also I’ve never played tenkaichi myself so hopefully it’s good.
The make or break for me is Mid-Battle transformations, Giant characters, environmental destruction, characters like; Eighter, Roshi, Appule, Frieza Soilder, Pilaf Gang, Fasha, and the return of sayain armor Trunks. Not any of that armor with sword bs Xenoverse pulled but actual Base trunks-Super Trunks like BT3
Funny that I'm not mad to have DLC characters and losing characters bc like you said Copy and Paste attack, combos, special. I like to see dragon Ball come back too bc when I unlock Future Gohan in BT3 I was sooo hype when I got him ,I like to see that again . All and All I'm hype as l hell for sure 😎. Also if that don't added no fun game modes like Imma be upset the sim days ,tag/5vs5 team,Cpu fights, Tournaments modes and the Chi-Chi roasting all the characters 😂😂😂
I’m cool with some same combos on similar characters. Like I’m cool with Frieza and Frost being relatively Copy paste as long as someone like Beerus or Hit are unique.
I would like a lot for them to take mechanics from previous games like stunning someone in a wall, dig a hole in the ground when pinning down someone from the air like in Raging Blast and deflecting ki supers just before getting hit. They have endless possibilities now with the new hardware.
I'm surprised that you don't think arale will make an appearance considering she has actualy appeared in super
I dont think she was particularly good but was always fun to just see her running around lol
I've only ever played budokai tenkaiichi 3 on wii, and I loved it. Can't really play it anymore since I lost the game, but actually doing the Kamehameha was fire.
Actually playing it on console, I guess I'm just excited for the roster and beam struggles
The breaking point for me is literally the combo / fighting system
If the game integrates the tenkiachi fight system like how you can transform into every form and how you combo
That’s what makes it special
Needs: struggles/clashes are a must, characters that have their own transformations and playstyles, fun/unique characters, fun story mode (bt2 style)
Get rid of: reskins of other characters.
So rhyme has a good point tenkaichi had so many chars in the past just because the lack of hardware i cannot imagine a roster super super huge with beam struggles and super godly transformation animations with super amazing flashy super attacks with such little time. At best we get ALL of this with maybe like 75 stock characters on release with a shit ton of DLC or they make more series down the line. Im honestly just hoping transformations and super attacks hold up with at least up to black arc characters for stock (main roster) main roster GT characters and many dbz characters. We have to be realistic here if the super attacks and forms are gonna look GODLY i don't think we should hope for a super massive roster rn
I hope it will be called dragon ball super budokai tenkaichi.
[Edit] While yes there where a lot of characters that had similar moves, there was a lot of uniqueness among a lot of the characters. Like for example some characters ki blasts where faster etc. Jagger1407 is one of the people in the budokai tenkaichi competitive scene that completely debunks the statement that every character played the same.
In dragon ball bt3 I 3 main 5v5 teams cuz that's how me and my friends played 1 easy 2 medium 3 death.
Team 1 was kid Goku, kid Chi-Chi, grandpa Gohan, Master roshi and bardok.
Team 2 had the same list except swap roshi and Gohan for fasha trunks cell games/fighting.
Team 3 My main team trunks cell games/fighting, bardok,kid Chi-Chi or videl, broly and ss4 gogeta.
So for me it's going to be a bit of a let down if we don't get the roster back from bt3 and then they just add dragon ball super and super dragon ball heroes characters cuz dragon ball Budokai Tenkaichi 3 was a game were you could take a character who had like a bar and half and fight someone who had 3x that and it would be canon cuz it be like kid Goku vs omega sheron or something it was great and my favorite part was the story mode and actually unlocking stuff via world tournament mode and the shop and story mode especially the what if scenarios.
I think the main thing that the new game has to sell me on is the overall speed being just like Tenkaichi 3.
One of the main gripes I had with Raging Blast is while it did add new elements and mechanics to the system, it overall felt WAY slower than BT3.(that said I’d love some of RB mechanics to come back for BT4).
The overall core gameplay of Tenkaichi is built with all the staples of DB in mind so I’m not worried about stuff like Beam Struggles and tag team ideas. But I need the overall speed of the game to be just like, If not at least VERY close to the original games.
Just have the characters have multiple forms and if need be separate to handle the other transformations if need be, like XV2 CCs
The rhythm and fast pace of the hand to hand combat is what matters most to me I love screaming THAT WAS DRAGONBALL when I pull of some insane combos
If another trailer for the new DBZBT game comes out. I'm expecting them to show off Vegeta's SSGSS Evolved transformation in the trailer because since this form wasn't put in DBFZ. I believe it'll be in the next trailer for more hype
Just want a shitton of characters. I remember me as a kid just watching videos on UA-cam with ALL the characters in Tenkaichi 3 before I got it myself! I loved it!
All I want is team battles where you can transform or fuse mid battle, I also want stage destruction after major supers.
I also really liked that there was different versions of goku with all his powers being different
Dragon Ball: Sparking! REVIVAL in Japan and BT4 everywhere else would be my guess
I'd love a large roster but with every character being unique more specifically in regards to as minimal move sharing as possible like the Frieza Soldiers and that sort of thing, I'm not gonna be mad If Perfect Cell has a chargeable Kamehameha but having like around 20 characters all with "Full Power Energy Wave" is ridiculous.
Ideally it'd be like around 100 characters with all of them being unique. Would love the story mode to be an even more improved version of how BT3 did but with BT2's depth in regards to the what-if's. Hell I'd love a story mode like BT2's where you could transform into forms characters shouldn't have yet and they could add in reactions to like Saiyan saga characters seeing Goku go like Super Saiyan 3 and everything
This will be called Dragon Ball Fighterz Super. The ransomware attack on August 2022 at Bandai Namco had its logo revealed by a dataminer before he was fired.
The engine of Budokai Tenkaichi is getting used but the mechanics of Fighterz is implemented
Growing up I had ultimate battle 22, and burst limit because my family didn't have a lot of money, I played the heck outta burst limit, I got XenoVerse 1 later in life, I was like 15, then I got XenoVerse 2 in 2018, I never got to experience the Budokai Tenkaichi 3 greatness, so this new game will be my introduction to the Tenkaichi series, I hope it's just a good game, with a awesome story mode
I don’t have a breaking point thing that will make me not get it. But I would love to have some cool side modes like in the og budokai 1-3. I personally preferred the control scheme of budokai 3 and infinite world over tenkaichi. But the cool side modes like Hercules quest or whatever would be fun to see added
Make or Break features (for me):
- Beam and attack clashes
- Destructible stages/environments
- Good cinematic ultimates
- Transforming and detransforming in-game
- Big characters being to the correct scale
One thing I'd actually like them to do is allow us to build our characters move sets and item usage like in the original Budokai games. GT Goku using "Early" Goku's Angry Kamehameha would be dope. Or SSB Vegeta using Dirty Fireworks
"Big characters being to the correct scale"
Oh, so you didn't like Tenkaichi 3?
2 of the best titles are getting a new one storm and budokai oh mann this is hype
Looking forward to a new tournament mode. Calling it here: Tournament of Power, an overly massive tournament that can include every character in the game. And like the old Cell Games tournament, the final battle will always be against Jiren.
The most important thing they need to perfect is COMBAT. The best thing for me about Tenkaichi 3 was how satisfying it felt to perform combos, perfect vanishes, beam clashes, Rushes. And also the fact that most of the characters weren't broken. For ex Broly even though he has Super Armor it doesn't work on characters like Ssj3 Goku, Fusion Characters, Gt Characters, Kid Buu and Arale.
I would love story arcs like they did way back in Budokai 3. That honestly was a feature so far ahead of its time
I seriously want a jukebox mode with old music from old budokai and tenkaichi games to be played. Tekken has it I think it’d be a phenomenal feature in the new bt game
In terms of roster I hope that at the very least it has all the main characters from the arcs, if it skips people like garlic Jr im not gonna care as much compared to if they don't add someone like dbz 17
The Roster has to be huge. That was the biggest part of Tenkaichi. Tenkaichi 3 had 98 characters on PS2. There's no reason this game shouldn't have at least that or surpass it. With the state of game development sadly, we will probably get 50 to start, and then like 10 DLC packs with like 4 or 5 characters FighterZ style. I have high hopes though. Best case scenario we get 150 characters by the time its at its peak before they stop releasing content.
Do a challenge with Deion and Doto where you go into painter and design your own version of the cover art 😂
I just really hope there will be a way to change the health bar to how you desireand everything else will stay the same with some improvement and really hope not dlc for charcters
The make or break for me is if they slow down/dumb down the gameplay. The insanely fast paced, hyper responsive and buttery smooth controls are the reason I still come back to BT3.
Future titles like Raging Blast 1, RB 2 and Xenoverse feel so sluggish and unresponsive in comparison. which is why I rarely return to those after completing their story modes.
I think my biggest things for BT4 are the return of clashes (both melee and beam), unique roster, and transformations. I want to be able to start at base and work my way up through UI and stuff. I guess I want my fights against friends to feel like an actual dragon ball battle again instead of just another fighting game.
When do y'all think we'll get more updates on the game?
I know movies will probably go DLC, and maybe what if fights like BT3 will also be DLC like Jiren v. Broly. The only thing that could make me not want it is something like Ultimate Tenkaichi
Genuinely wondering if they will put certain what if scenarios
Like will they put Z broly in?
I would love to see a vid of you using blue eyes and one of the other two idiots using red eyes, maybe the one that is left out could join with another dragon, like stardust, red arch fiend dragon, or black rose, and it could be a vid like the three idiots god duel
I think it's going to be called Dragon Ball Super Tenkaichi. From the in-development name being Zero. They're definitely going to soften expectations (of the large roster specifically) by having it be the start of a new tenkaichi franchise.
my guess it is will be a vastly remastered bt3 with dragon ball,dragon ball z,dragonball gt,and dragon ball super with the story missions following the anime
everything past the super anime will probably be dlc,and i can expect all of the movies to be sagas kind of like bow bt2 did them with upto the super broly movie being part of base game and beast gohans moview being dlc,ultra ego vegeta will probably be dlc also
What I hope is that they take a page out of character customization from previous budokai games and implement it into this new tenkaichi.
Wish list
1.Story mode - DBZ + Super
DLC story - original DB + GT
2. Same mechanics as old
in game fusion, destructible world, beam clashes etc…
3. Dramatic Finishes
(ALL movie characters ONLY)
4. Good Online mode ???
P vs. P ???
5. Manga ???
Moro, Merus, Ultra ego Vegeta, Granola, etc…
I want the spirit bomb to be in the stage background when I use give me energy
Frieza race prolly has the best grab animation with that tail combo
Idk why but ever since I saw the teaser it just reminded me of how they did storm 4 where it got all of the characters from the last 3 with a good story mode and dlc for characters and costumes then alittle bit later gave us a trilogy for the last 3 games so we could play all 4 main storm games and I could honestly see them doing that for budokai tenkaichi where we get 4 with a lot of characters and stuff then dlc to give us what they couldn’t give yet then after that give us a trilogy and legacy so we could play all 4 budokai tenkaichi games on new gen
Gameplay or bust. Being able to string together a crapton of combos with square and then triangle depending on how much you pressed square or triangle in a direction. That one little piece of depth to the fighting mechanics is what makes these games great for me. Obviously the flying, beam clashes, and special moves as well that all work together but like you said yourself, raging blast was a dumbed down version of Tenkaichi. So they need to take the Tenkaichi formula and take it a step up in terms of how you can attack or maybe defend this time. Dodging in a game like Burst Limit was one of the most satisfying things ever, maybe they could bring something like that back.
My "breaking point" outside of a ultimate situation, would prob be no cutscene transformations. Like frieza and cell being how they were in xenoverse
Yeah I agree it will be nice if they can make everybody unique but I'll be a lot of work but we already got the next gen consoles that's a decision that they should think about
I hope they will get the best from Tenkaichi 2 and 3 and some good things from Raging blast and make this the perfect Tenkaichi
I would be really pissed off if we don't get oldskool Tournament mode and good local splitscreen play, that kinda could break it for me😅
I don't mind some copy paste for the characters like frieza soldiers and some character who we seen less in action in the anime/movies
For me its transformations its needs to be like the old games where you can go from ssj and up but I also want transformations for other characters too like zarbon, boujack, frieza, ect. One more thing we absolutely need beam struggles and fist clashes again. But like tenkaichi.
This game absolutely needs to have some good online. Like I wanna be able to play with my friends like they’re next to me.
Also bring back Tarble. He’s unpopular but I like him lol.
Also Tournament mode and ring outs are a absolute MUST