The fact that Tilda Swinton wasn't even nominated for Best Actress at the Oscars. For her role in Orlando is proof that there's something seriously fucking wrong with the Oscars.
Orlando is a feast for the eyes. The settings and costumes are as interesting and wonderful as they are varied. It's as if Tilda Swinton is the main attraction of an evolving museum. The pacing of the movie allows you to notice every button, trinket and strand of hair. It's an Art House film in the truest sense. I think the closest movie to it is Prospero's Books. It's just as beautiful - and perhaps slower... but it has an absolutely stunning, unbelievable amount of nudity.
The lines are brutally honest- Ironically, many of us still encounter this kind of conversation that reveals abysmal prejudice against women in modern era.
Virginia Woolf was quite crazy when she wrote her books, non less they were brilliant. One has to remember the time period Virginia lived in, woman were very suppressed, considered to be an ornament, with no original thought, needing the guidance of male figure. Which in Virginia's case was not true at all, if anything this story is a history lesson on the nature of sexual politics between men and women.
any female genius living in that time would have gone crazy. andrea dworkin has said that no woman could exhibit the genius of the male philosophers at the time without ending up dead or in a whorehouse.
Virginia wasn’t crazy; she was depressed because she and her sister were sexually abused as children. Her husband Leonard believed that writing was making her mental illness worse so he forbade her to write. Writing was her way of working through her trauma. It kept her alive. Not being allowed to write was what prompted her suicide.
No woman needs a man! I was brought up around strong and independent women. For example, my mother worked a full time job and raised six children. Even when my father was laid-off from his job my mother was earning the price of groceries and doing homework too. She was what I have come to know as mother, woman, parent, and most importantly she never gave up or let anyone stop her.
Yes but unless they’re gay, most men are unfortunately conditioned to need women. Which is why they respond in offense and anger when women proclaim it as in the long run, unless they have money men depend on women to take care of them while women will do just fine on their own.
Men and women have their natural differences, no point denying it. But we have much more in common. For example, we are all lost in this life. All. Some more than others that's all.
All this reminds me a lot of "Lady Oscar" (live action). And more precisely, it reminds me of a scene in the film: when she, arrived in the ballroom, is framed by a man who admires the silence in courtship, characteristic, according to him, of beauty, especially feminine.
This movie was amazing… I related so strongly to Tilda Swinton’s character in ways I never thought I’d be able too. I want to read the book by Virginia Woolf. From the sexism, the longing for an intimate connection that is deeply understanding, and the feelings she has toward England are quite similar to the ones I feel about the US, especially that scene when that man tells her she belongs to England, but Orlando says no, and runs away, I felt that… truly. Even the gender bending. As a way to better understand myself and both the sexes, I tap into both my feminine and masculine energies. I’m not that perfect “lady” my mother and society wants so badly of me… ffs this is 2023. We shouldn’t be dealing with these issues when it comes to gender equality.
Although otherwise the books are different, Brendan Behan used a sentence or two from "Orlando" in "Borstal Boy" as a foreword, in which an elderly Elizabethan man rants about Irish rebels.
@@jasonday9286 Indeed! ( mind you, I'm not so sure about the "velvety" part; to my ear, it comes across rather as a harsh, rugged velvet, extremely pleasant, nevertheless. 😍 Thanks for taking the time to answer.
What a beautiful example of gaslighting... something women deal with to this day when attempting to assert themselves.
the only people who ever tell me that i talk a lot are men who really like to hold the floor😂😂
And to men by the women everyone generalises to be forever just victims
The fact that Tilda Swinton wasn't even nominated for Best Actress at the Oscars. For her role in Orlando is proof that there's something seriously fucking wrong with the Oscars.
Oscars? who cares??
Orlando is a feast for the eyes. The settings and costumes are as interesting and wonderful as they are varied. It's as if Tilda Swinton is the main attraction of an evolving museum. The pacing of the movie allows you to notice every button, trinket and strand of hair. It's an Art House film in the truest sense. I think the closest movie to it is Prospero's Books. It's just as beautiful - and perhaps slower... but it has an absolutely stunning, unbelievable amount of nudity.
"Orlando is a feast for the eyes." I couldn't agree more!
I saw this on its release. Except for one scene of dramatic transformation I don't recall nudity featuring much.
The lines are brutally honest- Ironically, many of us still encounter this kind of conversation that reveals abysmal prejudice against women in modern era.
Blair Milan is dat what your gf told you while you prepped tha bull?
I was just thinking that. This conversation could've well happened in 2020.
only SJW like you.
I hate the way they gaslight the fuck out of her.
20 yrs later, this is STILL my favourite film.
Virginia Woolf was quite crazy when she wrote her books, non less they were brilliant. One has to remember the time period Virginia lived in, woman were very suppressed, considered to be an ornament, with no original thought, needing the guidance of male figure. Which in Virginia's case was not true at all, if anything this story is a history lesson on the nature of sexual politics between men and women.
Who is to say it has changed?
Was she crazy, or was she a sane person struggling against a society that was mad?
any female genius living in that time would have gone crazy. andrea dworkin has said that no woman could exhibit the genius of the male philosophers at the time without ending up dead or in a whorehouse.
@@fictionesque1992 indeed, a few steps forward, the female genius writer a dissident bodhisattvas rebelling the forces that keep her there.
Virginia wasn’t crazy; she was depressed because she and her sister were sexually abused as children. Her husband Leonard believed that writing was making her mental illness worse so he forbade her to write. Writing was her way of working through her trauma. It kept her alive.
Not being allowed to write was what prompted her suicide.
I've never seen this film before but I knew he was gonna finish by saying "she is lost". When he did, I got chills
No woman needs a man! I was brought up around strong and independent women. For example, my mother worked a full time job and raised six children. Even when my father was laid-off from his job my mother was earning the price of groceries and doing homework too. She was what I have come to know as mother, woman, parent, and most importantly she never gave up or let anyone stop her.
Your mother sounds like an incredible woman, with incredible strength.
Yes but unless they’re gay, most men are unfortunately conditioned to need women. Which is why they respond in offense and anger when women proclaim it as in the long run, unless they have money men depend on women to take care of them while women will do just fine on their own.
True@@anamarte7547
This movie - it haunts me since I saw it years ago. I love it so much.
Men and women have their natural differences, no point denying it. But we have much more in common. For example, we are all lost in this life. All. Some more than others that's all.
I remember reading that and thinking, "Oh, nigga gonna get a beatdown."
All this reminds me a lot of "Lady Oscar" (live action). And more precisely, it reminds me of a scene in the film: when she, arrived in the ballroom, is framed by a man who admires the silence in courtship, characteristic, according to him, of beauty, especially feminine.
You have to understand what's going on to not be bored.
best movie ever
present company excepted of course... what brilliant camera work!
They repeat that camera movement at key points in the film. It really is a stunning movie, to look at and to listen to. Poetry on film!
i love this movie!!
Hah the jokes on them the Lady Orlando outlived them all
how is the guy how proposed to her was still alive? he was with her in Asia in 1700 (already old). than in 1750 he is still alive?
I LOVE this movie!
This movie was amazing… I related so strongly to Tilda Swinton’s character in ways I never thought I’d be able too. I want to read the book by Virginia Woolf. From the sexism, the longing for an intimate connection that is deeply understanding, and the feelings she has toward England are quite similar to the ones I feel about the US, especially that scene when that man tells her she belongs to England, but Orlando says no, and runs away, I felt that… truly. Even the gender bending. As a way to better understand myself and both the sexes, I tap into both my feminine and masculine energies. I’m not that perfect “lady” my mother and society wants so badly of me… ffs this is 2023. We shouldn’t be dealing with these issues when it comes to gender equality.
Although otherwise the books are different, Brendan Behan used a sentence or two from "Orlando" in "Borstal Boy" as a foreword, in which an elderly Elizabethan man rants about Irish rebels.
True! I agree 100%! Great movie!
the only people who eve tell me that i talk a lot are men who really like to hold the floor😂😂
@OtomoTenzi No no no!!! You have to be interested in either the fashion or the conversation to be entertained!
Yeargh shure, as soon as they can upload the whole movie so we can actually enjoy it... : P
To bylo dranstwo i dalej jest.
Is that ( the woman with the rolling purr in her accent) Eartha Kitt?
I think her name is Kathryn Hunter (Greek-British actress). Definitely not Eartha Kitt! She does have a fabulous, velvety voice.
@@jasonday9286 Indeed!
( mind you, I'm not so sure about the "velvety" part; to my ear, it comes across rather as a harsh, rugged velvet, extremely pleasant, nevertheless. 😍
Thanks for taking the time to answer.
Quite right! 🤣
The woman is LOST...in translation,
I may say, unless, by her silence
Cannot convince
What men understand by her function...
Ned Sherrin!
I can speak Martian, and Canadian hoser 😂
Orlando, is that you?
carlosed1979 ohh from ghost! got it
Orlando Sanchez ohh Ohlando, you like it?? It's Autumn sunrise!
Orlando Sanchez 🤣
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3 hours are boring any way you put it
Kinda boring, duncha think? : P
no. you're just dumb
Not as boring as the chirping of crickets between your ears. *micdrop*
as much as I love Tilda this movie was a pointless mess.