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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- It's pretty easy to install VHF/UHF radios into most trucks, the Ford F-150 Lightning is no exception.
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00:00 - Intro
00:47 - Bullet Proof Diesel Antenna Mount Bracket Install
10:18 - Running the power
15:50 - Power Distrobution Panel
19:22 - Antenna testing
19:56 - Power on testing - Наука та технологія
It might not have shown well on camera, but the antenna mount has a gasket between it and the truck body. 👍
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Nicely done Josh! You're a better man than me, I drilled a hole in my F-150 Platinum. When I saw the price for the brake light mount, I lost my marbles and went straight for the step drill bit and put a hole in the truck body. But that is a super clean mount. 73 de KO6TX
Better ground plane that way anyway. Just drill the hole. Everyone so gun shy about in. They make nmo plugs if you ever go to sell it, alternatively advertise it as having the coax there already to other drill shy hams lol. Might get more money for it.
@@chublez And, after five years or so, the truck will have depreciated enough to make whatever cost reduction due to the mount a non-issue.
I sure hope the LED drivers in the light assembly are RF quiet! Tune into a weak S1-S2 repeater and activate each light in turn... see if receive is affected when the LEDs are active. Modern vehicles are full of RF noise generators, EVs are a whole new ball game!
@HamRadioCrashCourse If the audio output doesn't satisfy your needs, you can hook up a standard 3.5mm aux cord. That is what I did for my IC-2730A. I hooked it up to the 2nd speaker jack and now I have great surround audio. Not to mention I don't have to buy a $50 speaker. But of course, that only works with a radio that has an aux port.
Fantastic install video for the new F150, hands down the best I've seen! Been wanting to do this for some time and wasn't sure about that mount but it looks really solid and well built. Thanks!
Thanks for the inspiration Josh! I've had a radio in my truck for a year or so now, but I'm doing more electrical and needed to clean up my connections. Now I have some good ideas. 👍
Josh, thank you for the video. I love that mount! I will now look at one for my Lightning. Great job.
Well you got it done. I hope that you don't have any issues with the install. But you know what is involved with this project and you saved a lot of money doing it yourself.
Think my favorite videos are mobile installs. Nice install!
Awesome! Thank you!
I just got my Lightning a month ago, and just my Technician License a week ago. So funny, I was looking at the same mounts and had the same realization. Wow.. is that expensive. Thanks for the great knowledge.... especially for a new guy.
I like that power distribution box. I had previously powered my radio straight off the battery on my previous vehicle. Now with a newer nicer truck, I want to power my radio and route the wires much cleaner. The only issue I'm having is deciding where to mount the radio with a clean look...
Nice job! For a little extra safety assurance and to hide the power wire, you might consider some 1/4" or 3/8" split-loom tubing and run all of the zip line in that. Just extra armor against abrasion, even though this frunk area isn't exactly as exposed to the elements like normal under-hood wiring.
Yep, loom all the things!
Helped out a few hams clean up their mobile install and a common issue I came across is routing wires or Coax over airbags. You have to run them behind the airbag so they don't interfere if they deploy.
Also, I integrated a simple relay circuit to cut power to the radio when the key is off. Just need to find a wire that has 12v only when the key is on.
Love your new rig Josh. Looking forward to seeing more !
Great video man. I really enjoyed it. I just ordered the same antenna mount for my 2021 Ranger, so it was awesome finding this video and seeing you do an SWR test. I'm surprised you didn't go with an APRS capable radio.
Nice install! That "frunk" area in the Lightning is so cool, tons of room behind the plastic to hide stuff, and the 12V battery is just right there. Regarding the low audio from the speaker when it is under the seat, I have a similar issue and might upgrade my FTM-200 to the FTM-500 when it is available. It has a front facing speaker right on the head unit!
I appreciate the walkthrough on how you did it, and also the closer look into your beautiful truck! It is amazing how quickly kids can scuff up/ dirty the inside of a new vehicle! Glad you like it, I am sure it will serve you well in many aspects! De K1MAZ
Great video- thank you for filming this installation
The icom speaker sp-35 is great for that radio and it’s pretty small but loud! Install looks great Josh!
That truck and antenna mount is awesome. I’m looking forward to the HF install.
Bought the dual antenna mount for my Colorado truck. It installed just as easy as you did Josh. One antenna for UHF/VHF. The other antenna for GMRS. I got two antennas from Compactenna. They seem to get good reception for both radios. The other day on 70cm, I was able to transmit 40 miles to a repeater to make a contact. The SWR for each antenna is not bad but not great.
This really is a great video, in somewhat uncharted waters. A lot of us know how to do mobile installs, bonding, etc. - but I don’t think I’ve ever seen one where a mobile install was done on an electric vehicle. I guess you’re the trendsetter now Josh!
Is really helped me plan out my power install for my own mobile rig. My issue has been that I want to add a few more things up to power than just my radio. However, I am going to also add some battery protection so I don't run down my car battery.
really good Josh, I got to put my DMR radio & my 891 in my Kia Forte. just got to wait and not deal with the cold/snow.
Thank you!
I love that Wera tool kit as well. I have a little tool kit which includes it and I keep it in my trunk. I swear I could pull an engine with it.
Clean install man! That ID5100 looks nice there
Thanks! Couldn’t have done it without you! 🤣
That is the sole reason that I am not getting this mount. $350 is absolutely overpriced for what it does.
Found it - nevermind. Ignore my other comment. i'd delete it if i remembered the oroginal comment I left it on. I cannot tell you how invaluable this is. thank you for being the pioneer on this car.
I got a 21 f150 xlt, 4 radios and emergency lights. 2 30amp fuse blocks and 2 radios ran straight to the battery with a 7 wire, trailer wire, all ran through the same hole on my fire wall. It wasn't too bad when I broke out the dawn dish soap to ease the wire through the fire wall.
I enjoyed the in install of your radio and how you did it
Thank you!
I'm following your lead on this. Just ordered one, even shipping was $$$ from those guys. Is it overbuilt at all?
Yes, seems very overpriced. Maybe $200 looks fair, we'll see when it arrives. Thanks for the vid!
That great. most trucks are easy to do. you could even do a LiFePO4 battery or add that later as back up battery. them mounts are a standard. business radios use same mount. I got some VHF LOW ones. 73's
Great video! Thanks for the shout out -AC4AG
Thanks for the help!
Nice video and truck. Keep an eye on the gaskets for that light and mount. I have a 2015 Platinum and had problems with condensation and musty smells inside the truck. Turned out that the light was leaking.
Love the look of this mount but the price and the drilling are a deal buster. Almost thinking of getting a backrack instead for that price and mounting the antenna on it instead.
Nice install and good video to see how you did it, so thank you. I wonder if your bracket can be modified for other antennas.
As a suggestion, I have an ICOM IC-2730a installed in my Tesla Model 3. I use a Jackery 500 to power my radio. I like having the radio power independent of the car's 12-volt system.
Nice job. It is a pain to pull wire sometimes, but worth it…
Thanks. I plan to install the same radio in my 2018 F150 ic truck. I think I'll use the dual antenna mount. The mount is a sticker shock. Hence my delay.
That is a slick antenna mount.
I glad the truck's airbags did not deploy when you hit the Xmit key.... GOOD JOB
Great install. I know you have a grommet around the base plate, but a little rust inhibitor inside those drilled holes will go a long way for peace of mind.
I just bought a 2021 F150 Lariat and have to re-install my Icom ID-5100 in this one. I had the rig in the center console on my 2011 Lariat. Because of all the wires under the seat I can't find a large enough area. Luckily, as you said, the electrical boxes, grommets and center console are both the same. Just have to wait for the weather to go above freezing as this truck doesn't fit in my garage.
If that company that makes the roof bracket would cut the price to $150 they would sell 3x as many. Crazy expensive.
LTT screwdriver action. nice 👍
One more thing. I have a tool that looks kinda like a screwdriver, but it is hollow. You shove it through the grommet, then push the wire through the tool, the retrieve the tool. Easier than it sounds. It is just called a firewall grommet wire insertion tool.
I would LOVE to use that, there is no way to get my arm into the gromet area on the other side.
Make or model of that tool?
@@bb_37 You tube won't let you post links, but here is the Amazon description. There are cheaper ones available, but I liked this one .
GoolRC Wire Insertion Tool Set Wire Harness Special Lead Tool Laser Tools OEM:7618
Nice. I did the same Bullet Proof Diesel mount on my '22 F150. I drilled those 2 holes the first day I had my truck! Painfull to do, but that is a great mount. I wish I would have done the dual mount. I wasn't sure the placement of the dual mount would work with my kayak mounts on the topper. Like that other install video you mentioned, I ran power on the passenger side to the leftover space behind the rear seat. I added a 3-way anteanna switch and power distribution there. So far I only have one GMRS radio in, but plan on having GMRS, UHF/VHF, and CB (for Jeep events). I think I've given up on the wireless charging pad (its pretty useless) in the center console, and am probably going to mount the radio head in that area so it can hide away when not in use. i just haven't been able to commit to that yet. GMRS is a Midland that only needs the mic visible when in use and just lays in the map pocket on the side of the console.
Enjoy that truck!
How’d you run the power through the passenger side?
@@HamRadioCrashCourse My Powerboost has a nice big rubber grommet on the passenger side. So just poked a hole in it and pulled the wire in by the fuse panel inside. And the 12v battery is right there like a “normal” truck.
nice install that's a super antenna mount think you should have got the duel. mount there's always that second radio
Sweet install Josh! Look forward to the HF addition Sir! 73 - KF6IF
Did a similar install on my hybrid. Also small battery, and yes, easy to kill them. I installed a power relay so that distrito box only powers up when vehicle powered on. That will save you from having the radio deplete the 12v and needing to call your wife for a boost. Ask me how I know…😂😂😂
You should get the Signal Stuff Signal Stalk. I really like mine I have on my Ford Ranger.
Sweet Antenna mount. I did choke when I saw the price. 🤣Yes you should have gotten the double mount version.
So much hesitation from everyone to drill these holes always. Just do a simple NMO mount center roof guys(I know this ones got glass). This mount costs more than the holes gonna devalue the truck and the kiddos y'all let rampage through yer vehicles devalue them more also.
As a ford technician that just completed working on a lighting, to get to everything under the frunk, it has to come out. So make sure the mount is able to be quick disconnected to allow the removal.
I saw Hoovies video showing under the frunk... 😬
Nice clean install, just curious if that 12v battery runs down from accidentally leaving the radio on, will it effect the drive system ?
Attach a string to a washer and use a magnet to lead the washer to whete you can get to it.
Did you have a 5100 in a vehicle before? My favorite radio, but I'm pretty sure you know that if left in hot sun the screen will eventually fade. You'll need a windshield sunscreen, a cover for the head or something. My solution was (after several years) to move the 5100 to the shack and use a 4100 in the car. Yeah, not as good a radio, but it's OK with the heat over time.
Edit- i saw you have an LTT driver. If you ever go with that kinda merch, I'd be down for an HRCC screwdriver.
I just watched your video on plans for the communal bookcase. I say do a long form video on that. You know we'll watch it, bud. 🤙🏽
Thanks! I might do that!
You should have bought the dual NMO mount! You will regret it Josh!
It is an excellent antenna mounting solution for that vehicle which is worth the cost in my opinion.
Enjoy your new truck!
I feel that!
Icom sells a first party mobile speaker that is not cheap but it sounds amazing and it’s not made out of plastic.
Thanks for that tip!
@@HamRadioCrashCourse Icom SP-35
That is a very neat mount idea. Thank you for the comment that you made saying the mount has a gasket because as you were tightening the screws on the light, that was the question that popped into my head.
I have a Maverick and I'm trying to figure the best way to put an antenna on the top because I don't want the mag mount like I did on the last car, and my wife tells me I'm "not putting a hole in the roof of the new truck." There's no way for me to mount it to the bed the way the bed is designed. I don't like hood lip mounts and I don't really want a glass mount antenna. I may just punch the hole anyway and beg forgiveness?
Thanks for your video! de VO1ET
Thanks for the video. I don't like wiring the radio directly to the battery without a way to make sure it the radio turns off when I turn off the truck. After I discharged my 12 V battery a few times in my (now replaced by my 2023 Lightning) 1995 T100, I added a relay that disconnected the high current 12 connection when the truck was off. Surely there is such a wire somewhere.
That's a slick mount, perhaps is overpriced but it's certainly cool
I need to find one for my Tacoma
Dang Josh, that is pricey. Too late now, but did you check the Larson electronics mounts? Very similar, but slightly different at half the price, and no drilling. Yours does have the advantage oof being able to put the coax inside the truck behind the light. I ran my coax along the window, then down to a grommet that is behind the rear seat, then along the channel by the door. I'll try to make a video in a week or two when I get back in town.
hello. Interesting to see your install, as its becoming harder and harder to get through the firewall. What gauge wire did you use from your battery to your fuse box? I've seen 8 awg recommended for multiple radios. thanks!
Nice install job. I am surprised at the amount of extra room behind the panels of the front trunk.
When you do this install be sure to avoid the controls and tracks for the sunroof.
I did something similar when I bought my car. Pulled in the driveway and started pulling panels to mount my radio
Josh,
Tell me about the AF60 on your roof!!!
This is kg7 iux in Arizona. I just got done watching your video and loved it. I also have the Icom id-5100a. My question is with your Lido mount. I just recently bought the Uniden SDS200 Digital Police Scanner and as you can imagine I'm having trouble mounting it in my 2019 F-350. I was thinking about the Lido amount do you think it's strong enough to hold the scanner or do you think that it will droop eventually?
Which soon you may not be able to use in Pennsylvania, even pulled over if the engine is running.
Nice install! Out of curiosity, why did you use a power distro block like that instead of something like a RigRunner?
Bummer you have to take out a loan for that awesome antenna mount!!
Just wondering if you have noticed any RF getting into or affecting the electronics or truck functions / controls ?
Very helpful video. I’m new to ham to wanting to install a mobile radio in my ram truck. What gauge wire did you use for the power and ground?
16 gauge.
Looks like adding a GMRS radio to my car might be a bit trickier than expected...
Beach Blvd to the 91 west.
Yep
Nice install! I'm wondering, could I use the the 120V household outlet instead if I wanted to avoid wiring to the battery? In the ICE F150 with Pro Power, the outlet is rated for 400W -- I think 2KW/20Amps in the lightning or something like that.
You’d have to have a power supply to run off that 120v, but yes.
Nice install. I sent a link to your video to an installation guru I know and he was intrigued since he hasn't worked on a Lightning yet. There was a metal bar that you slipped in behind the opening. That metal bar had screw threads in it that lined up with the holes you drilled. Correct? Was that metal bar stainless steel or plain steel? I think you said the screws were stainless steel. See where I'm going? Bare aluminum on bare steel over time might be a problem.
Hmmmmm. Good point. This is the Diesel power mount. They have to know of that issue. The bar was very light with that said.
I hope your truck is quieter than mine. 2017 Tacoma and it pukes so much rf that I can’t get on 2m when the the ignition is on. I’ll get it figured out eventually. But hope you have no problems.
It’s pretty rf quiet.
Great video! Did you consider a Power Pole PD box like a RIGrunner? If you did, why did you decide against it?
I never considered it. But I will take a look.
Very nice. Might have to get that antenna mount for my truck. Good job, Josh.
It’s a great mount. Expressive, but very good.
@@HamRadioCrashCourse Umm...expensive?
Thats is the same power distribution block I reccomend.
I'm glad I got a good one!
Not sure I would be an early adopter of electric trucks. Hope it stands the test of time given the investment.
Was there a gasket or some sort of sealant on the mount to keep water from seeping in to the body of the truck?
Yes there is.
Wondering what kind of crimper you used? It doesn't look like you used any solder on the ring connectors?
Great video.
Do they make these for all make and models of new trucks!?!? I have a 2020 Chevy Silverado 2500 and would love this
Yes!!
Where's your gaskets ????? Bracket to body gasket and new gasket light to bracket? Fords number one spot for water leaks ! On my 2014 f150 I installed a tram 1191 glass mount 2m 440 antenna with a QYT8900D radio, works great, total cost was $130.00 with cup holder mount for 4 inch radio.
There is a gasket.
Curious why you went with the 5100... Seems like you hinted at a new ICOM coming soon in a previous livestream.
I bought it used and wanted to try it. :)
For that price, I just drill the holes.
Josh, Did you ever manage to get the SWR down on this setup?
Different antenna was the trick. See my recent mobile antenna testing videos. 👍
I cringed when you drilled the two holes. Not sure I would have the guts to do that. Nice install though. I like the color of the truck too. Jack K5FIT
I have a question. How did you mount an antenna on the X-Terra? I ask because I'm running a mag mount on my 2008.
I’ve mounted to the roof rack and a behind tail light mount.
Off topic josh can you recommend me a whip antenna for yeasu ft-891 to set up for military back pack set up
Like a flexible whip or telescopic?
@hamradiocrashcourse How did you get the lido in the seat bolt up front??? Did you have to do any thing to the seat bolt "beauty cover" to get the LIdo to fit? I was looking at the same mount however lido told me it doent fir the F150 non lightning
I loosened the seatbolt and shoved the metal foot base of the mount under the seat rail as hard as I could. There is a depression that the foot will actually slide into.
You paid $400 and they didn't even give you an EZ-Pull PL259 connector?
If you remove the mount, are the drilled holes visible when the brake light is returned to stock?
Since I haven’t taken it off I have no idea. Call the company.
You're gonna be mad when I tell you that you could have just feed the feedline in from the third brake light and it would've naturally followed the C channel down to the bottom without loosening the headliner or c pillar plastics at all. I've done it with several feedlines.
LOL, I am not really mad, also not surprised. I often have to do things the hard way first so I know some of the inner workings.
Beautiful install but the mount costs many beans.
Hey friend! What's the name of that cable that goes in the audio jacks of your radio and computer so you can broadcast things like zello to your physical radios?
It would depend on the radio, some take USB :D
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