What made HK unique was it was a mix of West and East, now its competing with other big cities like Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen..so its competitive advantage is lost.
I agree... if you don't acknowledge that it is a SPECIAL administrative region with its own unique abilities and quirks you are working to destroy it. I live in Macau SAR next to HK and mainland government and local government acknowledges our SPECIAL history with Portugal and Portuguese speaking countries to form bonds and do business. Why cant Hong Kong do the same with Anglo world?? Destroying the thing that change it from fishing village to a world leading city does not seem smart. The colonial governments were not good or fair. Nobody should speak too favorably of them. But China promised to be liberator, letting us be what we want to. Yet they are no different sometimes.
Not at all. The competitive advantage is it's the difference of systems that give China the flexibility. Plus constant influx of mainlanders since early colonial days.
Why won’t they just say ‘national security law’ - it’s absolutely ruined HK. And mainlanders coming in is EXACTLY what China wants - slowly supplant the local population, and then it’ll be just another Chinese city. 150 years of hard work gone, and it’s so utterly depressing.
150 years of colonization, not hard work. And by the way, Western countries don't hesitate to shut down similar protests so don't even try the freedom BS
It's not just HK and mainland. Many western Asian headquarters that were in Hong Kong have now moved to Singapore for example. Hong Kong was richest place in China when it was given to PRC in 1997. Now it's still rich but left behind by many tier 1 cities in PRC. Hong Kong was on par with Singapore back then, now way behind.
yep, even in communist countries people vote with their feet. I just laugh when people keep on saying how modern china is without having actually lived there as a lower income person..why is anyone with money trying to get to Singapore? and why is HK losing badly, really badly to Singapore?
Singapore did democracy right. That's why it flourish. They are even more advanced than USA in terms of democracy and capitalism. I wish USA would learn from them but people in USA are stubborn that they are the best. It resembles the sentiment in China. Is funny how similar yet different USA and China are.
I can see you have a western mind set, so this Hk might not be your taste. There are some places you can go to, like USA or UK for example, just go where your heart desired. Be a free person, a born again so to speak.
the main reason HK lost it's wealth because it used to be the gateway to China. ever since you could go direct to China, there became no need for HK in this regard
Been here since 1996, the only place I feel at home, it doesn't matter for me how Hong Kong changes. I am not leaving. People come and go, that's life.
Good that that you have reached the acceptance stage of living in a police state that brutalizes political dissidents and Uyghurs. And whose allies are other police states.
@@DonYang73 not afraid of falling prices. but who are you to say how much property prices should be? sellers and buyers think otherwise. And I mean buyers who actually end up buying, not those who would like to buy but decide not to.
Most of my friends are moving to Kuala Lumpur and Singapore City. I’m moving there in February 2025 as substantial divisions of Major international business are moving outside HK.
I worked in HK in 2001, then moved to SG when it was still cheap in 2004 then moved to Shanghai 10 yrs later. Lots of changes expecially when i visited HK a few times after. Star ferry terminal moved. Lots of new buildings. My old apartment in Kennedy town was torn down and there was shiny new apartment there. The MTR reaches there now. Cities always change. Some move in , some move out. Life goes on
One day you're surfing the web on Disney website, next day you accidentally loaded Winnie the pooh picture and your whole family is in black jail. People come and go. Life moves on. Yeah.....
My entire family came from China back in the 50s and the 60s. What's wrong with the influx of mainlanders? As someone who was born and brought up in HK, I am happy that they came.
A major reason why expats left HKG over time is cos, HKG is no longer the gateway to mainland China, most major international corporations are now set up in mainland China! Since the handover back to China, HKG is no longer the laundering centre and listening post for the West! CNA, why the emphasis on MAINLANDERS, when HKG is just another Chinese city that Chinese ppl can move to....no different to Chinese and/or HKG Chinese moving to Shenzhen! The word EXODUS is so condescending! People move for economic and personal reasons except those affiliated with foreign agencies.
Volkswagen just closed it’s factory in Shanghai. The second and third factory are merging shifts and reducing staff. But on the bright side EVs is taking off in China internally. Combustibly. That is why the German left at least.
@@pehclark7256 Yes, The legacy car manufacturers no longer can compete, not only VW.....Nissan, Honda, Mitsubisihi, and US car makers are all packing up, whereas the Chinese EVs are exporting into the BRICs countries including SE Asia. Even Jim Farley, CEO of Ford conceded that US car makers cannot compete in tech and price after visiting China and China is an "essential threat" to the US car industry.
@@pehclark7256 According to the latest data from the Central Bank of Germany, German investments in China reached 7.3 billion euros (8.2 billion U.S. dollars) in the first half of 2024. Volkswagen is also investing 2.5 billion euros ($2.68 billion USD) in China. Companies open and close plants often due to production/strategy shift.
"when HKG is just another Chinese city that Chinese ppl can move to.. no difference than moving to Shenzhen", this is incorrect as Mainland Chinese will need to be granted with a permit to even visit HK. It's easier for a foreigner to visit HK compared to a mainlander. No permit is required to visit or even work in Shenzhen.
What made Hong Kong unique is the blending of Western and Eastern cultures. If it is just “another Chinese city” in China - it is no longer special. Then why go to HK? you can just go to any other city in China. So why take away what makes HK special? For what purpose than to satisfy someone’s ego?
As a former HK resident, I can feel the difference that the crackdown and human rights suppression has brought. It's sad and makes me (and I dare say a number of Hong Kong people) long for the good old days.
As a Chinese/Australian I truly kiss old HK....it's just not the same any more....The influx of mainland Chinese have changed the feel of old HK to a China China feel.
Hong Kong is now much less internationalised than Tokyo Osaka and Seoul. I see far more western people on the street when I go to those cities, they are getting far more visitors from the west.
More visitors are going to Japan and Korea because the Japanese Yen and Korean Won are weak comparing to the HK Dollar. You get more bangs going to Tokyo and Seoul.
There are probably also more westerners on the streets of Bangkok, even though the labor market there is far more restrictive than Hong Kong. In Hong Kong, you can see Iranian garbage collectors, whereas in Thailand it would be unthinkable for a non-Thai or at least someone who is not from Myanmar or Cambodia to do such a job. An Iranian garbage collector in Thailand? There'd be plenty of stares and photographs taken by locals if that were the case There are also a lot of restricted jobs only Thai nationals can perform. Regardless, Bangkok is full of tourists, retirees, digital nomads and westerners working in all sorts of roles.
@@bennykoh Here , Singapore is a socialism wrap with democracy. Which works very well . China already a socialism+ "controlled capitalism" when Deng "open up" China.
Repost BY @jackychick I am a Hong konger, and it is absolutely ridiculous that the so-called resistance from activists were ALL supporting Hong Kong INDEPENDENCE. Only people who are nuts would think that is possible, yet almost all rioters as well as many protestors were demanding self determination like a referendum for independence. Almost all politicians from the so-called democratic party( in name only) broke the election laws on purpose and many were jailed subsequently despite repeated warnings from the government. Most of the activists who organised the protests were also trying to be famous in local media as they would be interviewed by many journalists and literally everyone of them tried to run for local elections ! Protests were simply tools for them to get media exposure. Western media in 2019 wanted to dump it down to communist sympathiers vs democracy protestors (blue and yellow ribbon in hong kong) when in fact the silent majority were both afraid of the communist AND they were even more afraid of fascist freedom fighters ( i.e the rioters) who hospitalised anyone that dared to exercise free speech and opposed their vandalism and violent protests. Doxxing was rampant as children and relatives of the police, or anyone who dared to oppose violent protests were threatened and their homes attacked. Many fled Hong Kong because they were arrested during the riots to escape potential prosecutions. what s the prosecution rate? out of 12000+ rioters, less than 1000 were sent to jail despite being caught red handed at the riots. Most were not even charged as you need beyond reasonable doubt in hong kong to prosecute a rioter. By wearing masks, most of them could not be identified even if they were arrested with rioting gears like helmets, huge umbrella on sunny day, protective gears etc. Out of every riot, e.g 300+ rioters, only 20+ would be arrested in the early months. i.e less than 10%. So out of 12000 people, with 99.3% of rioters got away with rioting as less than 1000 were jailed. This sad affair ultimately prompted Beijing to establish the national security law. So hong kongers could no longer legally commit treason, like flying to the Congress and demanding America to sanction hong kong and China if hong kong couldn't have a western style democracy. How many protestors were killed by the hong kong police during 5 months of protests and riots? ZERO. Did rioters kill anyone? One unarmed cleaner was murdered by a rioter in broad daylight as they got accustomed to throwing bricks at the police and they threw bricks at unarmed innocents for opposing violent protests. Another was set on fire and required multiple surgeries to survive. A total of at least 70+ unarmed innocents were severely hospitalised by rioters, a dozen required surgeries as the fascist mobs beat them to a pulp. Only a few were reported like they were isolated incidents when in fact the rioters brutality against unarmed innocents were happening EVERY SINGLE WEEK for FIVE months, terrorising millions of hong kongers. Solution? Many pretend to support them. e.g they stopped all the cars at motorways and demand drivers to donate money to their cause, so many simply shouted their protests slogans and they were immediately let go!
From the largest empire in the world to a woke backwater in only a generation. After everything that's been learned from the Enlightenment, you would think that people would strive for more freedom and independence, not revert into administrative oblivion and authoritarianism. The trend is terrifying.
Anyone who do not see a future for himself is free to leave HK. HK people must owe their loyalty to the PRC not to Britain. Those who want to be British Subjects should leave.
Been here 61 years and not leaving. The old adage "Many a slip twixt cup and lip" now needs to be brought up-to-date with the wording "Many a slip twixt brain and lip". So just bear that in mind and HK is, as it has always been, "A Great Place to Live!"
Hong Kong is the city with the largest number of spies in the world, spies have infiltrated every Fortune 500 company in Hong Kong, every Hong Kong embassy, and every Hong Kong people's life, after Article 23 of the Hong Kong Basic Law, a large number of foreigners have left, guess what is the connection between these two things?
Yes, now you just shouldn't say anything critical about the CCP anymore. Remember you don't have free speech in HK anymore. Anything that is against the party line can now be prosecuted and you can get jailed. But yeah, a great place to live...
...the Hong Konger they interviewed referred to PRCs as expats as well. One country two systems, means there's still some differentiation. Mainland authorities themselves have been inflating "foreign" tourist numbers into HK, by counting PRCs under those as well. So are you saying CCP is doing the wrong thing...?
SE Asians do not see themselves as an expat to the HK's city scenes though... even though the law is against to filter THEM out.. but they keep going though... Why ? Despite them being the outsider. So an outsider reporting on an outside situation which they themselves fall into... So... that makes sense... lol... So they didn't think about to admitting and converting their passport into the HK SAR one.. or the chinese passport. So they don't do interviews and asks questions like... "Mrs Yip... when I have a Singapore passort... and your actual... policy is rolled out, would that affect me because"..... MOST British media, would do that, but MOST media like SCMP and HK ones.. would never do that ! Why ?....
spent many years in HK as an expat and the locals referred to them as locusts 😂 'expats' is definately a term of endearment..or we could coin a new term, Exbats 🦇
Quality of life is the same in Hong Kong and Singapore. People live in micro prison cells. Singapore and Hong Kong offer nothing to anyone. Bangkok offers more to expat than Hong Kong and Singapore combine.
@@cloudwithwind574you get your facts wrong. Only Malaysian want to come to Singapore not the other way round. Young educated Singaporean will go elsewhere, maybe only retirees will go Malaysia
You all miss the point. Hongkong is part of China. Tel me what's wrong with mainland Chinese going into HK. You guys still think HK belong to British. That's your problem.
You get less major companies investing, so less money is flowing and less quality talent. Mainland Chinese don’t know what freedom is. In the meantime Singapore is gaining big time and the economic powerhouse that used to be Hong Kong is slowly dying
@@tommyd3257 Just last month, Hong Kong has reclaimed its position as Asia's top financial center, surpassing Singapore. Globally, Hong Kong is now ranked third, behind New York and London.
CNA received many complains from Filipinos because they only highlight the negative and sensationalist news in their UA-cam channel. This is common practice by CNA Media
It is politically correct that Hong Kong is always a part of China but Hong Kong was forcefully taken by British more than 100 years ago. It is normal for mainland Chinese to visit and stay in Hong Kong Kong after all, Hong Kong is now PART of China. Under the British rule in Hong Kong, Hong Kongers have NO voting rights at all but ironically, Hong Kongers are still kowtowed to Brits for their arrogant and condescending tones and attitudes towards not only Hong Kongers but also the Asians. After all, Hong Kong has contributed tremendously by channeling her collections of duties and taxes towards British economy during the dire economy of United Kingdom in 1970 to 1980. On the flip side, United Kingdom is now economically at her lowest ebb after Brexit and the uncalled for "decoupling" with China(proxy of Big Brother) and UK is bracing for the incoming economy turbulence in the very near future... The West perceive that ONLY West could ONLY bring modernization nd prosperity under the name of "democracy and human rights"...
@@motherbear5997then Hong kongers go to Singapore and Malaysia and expect they can get education in Cantonese? It's the same! Even in Taiwan when a substantial people speak a certain Fujian dialect, do they have school curriculum in that dialect?
@@motherbear5997 of course they "allowed" preservation of local culture. They never really cared for the education nor any real sense of development for the conquered. As long as they can maintain status quo, why would they want to rock the boat? If you can look beyond such a basic simple political maneuver, would you really think the Brits are that considerate to the locals?
@@motherbear5997 Schools in HK still teach in Cantonese, what are you talking about? Mandarin lessons are of course conducted in Mandarin and ditto English but everything else is taught in Cantonese Moreover Cantonese is widely spoken in Guangzhou, just like dialects in every province in China, be it Sichuan, Shanghai, Hunan, Fujian, etc. The death or "suppression" of Cantonese in Hong Kong has been used as another weapon against China. It's simply not true
The change in demography is natural. In ten years' time, it can become another Chinese city, just like those in the mainland China. It is no longer a bridge between the West and China since this is no longer needed by the West and China alike. both of which are decoupling from each other very fast in every aspect, tech, ideology, economy etc. Nevertheless, HK will still be alive and progressing rapidly.
HK doesn't feel as alive to me as before. I think Singapore, Taiwan and maybe some mainland China cities or Western places (a lot of HKers moved to UK) benefited. Just being another Chinese city means loosing what was special about HK. You can see from things like property prices it HAS affected the economy and not in a way strengthening the economy. Also so many of the people I know there want to leave still but didn't all find the way, yet.
exodus? 80 to 72 is not significant! as far as business go, no biz should focus on the colour of the skin of their customers... they are all customers...
Expats leaving means outsiders who mostly r descendants of colonisers r leaving while mainlanders r coming means native people r coming so whats wrong in that
it's that expats are genereally welcomed as agents of change (for the better) and the mainlanders mindset is archaic, robotic and non progressive. that's why locals have always wanted to work for international companies and not be trapped in jobs with managers/conditions from hell
Expats doesn’t have the spending power like mainlanders. Appreciate the fact they are still keeping your business alive so you can put food on the table.
The British India Company grew opium in India, exported the opium to China to get the Chinese hooked on the drugs. What followed was the Infamous Opium War of 1897 in which the Western countries in Europe led by England gave the Opposing Chinese forces a licking in the infamous Opium War in the Battle of Nanking. The Chinese were defeated and had to accede the Island of Hong Kong to UK for 100 years until 1997 when Hong Kong was returned to China. China never forgets that humiliation.
The Russian invasion of Manchuria or Chines expedition (‹See Tfd›Russian: Китайская экспедиция)[4] occurred in the aftermath of the First Sino-Japanese War (1894-1895) when concerns regarding Qing China's defeat by the Empire of Japan, and Japan's brief occupation of Liaodong, caused the Russian Empire to speed up their long held designs for imperial expansion across Eurasia. Outer Manchuria was ruled by a series of Chinese dynasties and the Mongol Empire, but control of the area was ceded to the Russian Empire by Qing China during the Amur Annexation in the 1858 Treaty of Aigun and 1860 Treaty of Peking,[6] with the terms "Outer Manchuria" and "Russian Manchuria" arising after the Russian annexation. You claimed “"China never forgets that humiliation." why you forgot about the treaty of aigun? russia was also involved in the opium war? why did you forget this? 你的俄爹对你们做的坏事都忘了？
@@richardbtlim8095 Funfact: Afghanistan opium production drop below Myanmar. Now, Myanmar is the largest producer of opium in the world. United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. UNODC: Afghan opium poppy cultivation plunges by 95 percent under Taliban ONLY after U$A departure , Afghanistan able to close down most opium production. Now you know who is the culprit .
The "charm" you are referring to is probably "democracy and human rights" ? And May I guess the kind of human rights and democracy the west, the ex-British Empire and the declining empire, namely the US, are so fond of talking about ?
@@johnc1873 Lol, reminds me back in 2016 when I was replying to trump supporters on facebook and they called me a Russian bot... Because they saw my name... My name was in the greek alphabet 😂 Anyway, shill elsewhere.
Replaced by the Mainlanders means the vibe of Hong Kong is destroyed and will be replaced by the Communist vibe and rules and regulations, which are unacceptable.
I don't see the problem. Chinese want to move to another Chinese district. Foreigners leaving for their own country? So what? Shouldn't they go back to where they came from since they are not permanent residents? Expats are just temporary workers on a work visa.
The Chinese 🇨🇳 regime called it the "Hong Kong Great Replacement" theory, by moving the mainland Chinese to where they want to replace. It's something they did in Tibet, Mongolia, Xinjiang, and now Hong Hong.
No a lot of hong kongers with families moved to shenzhen so they can have bigger houses and cheaper living expenses and commute to Hong Kong via the express train. Shenzhen and the whole Guanzhou are Cantonese which is the originating province that Hong Kongers came from. Hong Kong is too damned expensive. It’s good for young people who want to work in finance and have a glamorous life but it’s too small and crowded to raise families comfortably. Also they moved the very poor people who lived in cages to mainland too. Old people also retiring to mainland due to easier to find caretakers for cheap. Remember Hong Kong has too few apartments but mainland has over supply of apartments.
It is the same as to what Americans did to Texas and California and they snatched it from Mexico or what the European did to North and South America. Hawaii is also another perfect example.
Britain colonized Hong Kong for 150 years and in the first 100 years, it practised a racial seggregation policy mirroring the Apartheid in South Africa. All the European premises were reserved for the European community in Hong Kong only and the Chinese majority were not allowed to enter. Hong Kong Musem was a rare exception that the local Chinese were allowed to visit but only in the restricted time slots. There was also a curfew policy for the local Chinese who were mandatory to stay indoors at night or carry a lantern to be visible at all times if they have to leave their homes for emergency purposes but no such restrictions were in place for the Europeans in the colony. All the officials, from the Hong Kong Governor to the street police, were sent to the colony directly from London. The local Chinese had no political freedom at all. In the WWII, Britain lost the colony to the Japanese. After the WWII, Britain regained the colony and it started to reconsider the policy of racial seggregation and the local Chinese were allowed to enter European premises and even lived in the European quaters. Grassroot-level positions in the government started to accept the local Chinese, but medium-level and high-level positions were strictly occupied by the British. It persisted until the 1990s. Hong Kong was never a democracy under the 150-year British rule. In the 70s, there were student movements against the British colonial govt in the city and was harshly cracked down.
If you love Britain and want to serve the King then leave. CCP won’t stop you and nobody is going to stop you at the airport. It is best for all parties.
Best for all parties is to let the majority of the people who live in Hong Kong decide and elect who runs it. I know that concept is lost by people who are oppressed.
@@tommyd3257the Chinese don’t need your advice about Hong Kong because when Britain was in charge you didn’t give them a choice ! Only when your days was numbered you reluctantly gave them a choice .
Seriously CNA, its really low to work for CIA for Singapore, your founding father would be ashame, mind your own business, its not like Singapore doesn't hav a problem.
why? when factories move out and expat leave Singapore for China during 90's. Did Singapore just stand there and do nothing? Nothing stay same forever. Changes and adapt are the ways.
What you are not hearing is the voice of ordinary Hong Kongers working in companies being taken over by mainland companies with the CCP embedded overseeing everything. This is part of a systematic process to eliminate HK identity so that it is not just aligned with the CCP but the dominant Mandarin speaking population. Not only are working conditions far worse but natives are treated as second class citizens, excluded from decision making and responsibility. This creates a dilemma as many more would like to leave but it means not just loss of place and identity but family ties which are central to their lives. Those foreign expats who think it makes no difference are completely divorced from what is going on right in front of them.
Is it so hard to get some data from HK immigration? WHY IS NEWS NOWADAYS JUST TAKE SOME COMMENTS AND PRESENT IT AS WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING?? Gym that cater to foreign students see a drop in business is as simiple as who in the right mind will send kids to school that is a breeding ground of CIA operations!
There's no going back to the "old" HK. In 5-8 years, HK will become the equivalent of a 2nd tier city of China, much earlier than the 2047 deadline of the 50 years no change fantasy (policy). by then, all of HK's treasury savings should have been drained as planned.
Hong Kong expat (and local) exodus... on weekends. It was quite interesting to see the HK citizens and expatysgoing to Shenzhen for the weekend. Why? Because its cheaper and service is often better.
Yeah, that "cheaper and (better) service" is reverting to "happy ending....five dorrah mo!" Get real! It's all well and good to love your country and be a patriot, but loving your country and patriotism also means recognizing where you fail.
It’s always been that way, much like Singapore-Johor Bahru or San Diego-Tijuana. The key is living and earning money in a more secure environment, which HK no longer is.
Expats should learn to adapt. If expats in China and many other countries can, why not the expats in HK? ... when in Rome,... Even migrants to the US and Europe have to adapt to local Western values. Why is it that it doesn't apply to other countries?
RIP HongKong. It was great the way it was and always has been but under the current regime, they slowly killing HK in its core, values, and culture. Sad
Free from the west. There are some other islands around the world still colonized by them. Probably you want your country to be the same. You can invite them to do so.
For people dont live in HK and trash talk about HK. Come and see. HK is one of the best cities in the world. It's safe, super efficient, and convenient, but it's expensive!
I remember during the 1980’s there was a lots of advertisements regarding keeping HK clean ( for eg, live chicken market, trolley hawkers, spitting, throwing garbage etc etc) and really HK was lot cleaner then. Nowadays it has become dirtier than ever.
In 2010 I did an internship in Hong Kong for a year. It was one of the best times of my life. Besides a nice job there was also a vibrant nightlife. Met a lot of nice and young people from different cultures, Europeans, Indians, Americans, Russians, Southeast Asians and Hong Kongers. Around that period the influx of mainland Chinese also started. I also noticed this in the behavior, in terms of politeness there is a visible difference between Hong Kongers and mainland Chinese. The mainland Chinese are nice, but much more focused on their own society and less on other ethnic cultures. But that is also fine, because after all HK belongs to China, so it is a Chinese city. But I do think that it will become less cosmopolitan and more of a homogeneous city than other Chinese cities. And honestly, I think that mainland Chinese are quite racist. But maybe it is more because other cultures in China are unknown to them.
@@sfjava6239 oh really? then why are the foreigners flocking to singapore and fleeing from HK? why are many foreign banks relocating their asia-pac HQ from HK to singapore?
@@happymelon7129 are these "rich shenzhen people" enough to save the retail and F&B economy of HK"? thousands of HK people flock to shenzhen every weekend to eat and buy groceries. hundreds, even thousands of HK business have shuttered after the pandemic. when was the last time you went to HK?
@@bennykoh You must wake up from your dream that there are no more "HK" , it was a region of Shenzhen now. Don't be so __D__b that they need to keep all the retail/shop of a region of SZ at higher price. The HK region should balance out as part of ShenZhen only. Their real focus will be on HK finance sector only. HK Housing/shop price should go down for the benefit of the people.
Before Hong Kong returned to the mainland, many HK people immigrated to Canada, Australia, and the US. In around 2004 or 2005, the Canadian Embassy in Hong Kong released a figure indicating more than half a million Canadian citizens resided in HK. Many were HK immigrants returning to Hong Kong to work after getting their legal residence statuses. Fast forward to today, most of these people should be approaching their retirement age, and I believe they would prefer to retire in their immigrated countries because of the generous retirement benefits there. That may be another reason for the expat exodus.
@@ericphua2359 What about the POOR PRC ? Does it mean that China actually fulfills its obligation to poor people ? Rich people grew rich thanks to China, now they cut and run after they got rich. Ungrateful ?
not been there in 6yrs, the cost vs size of apartments and the cost of living is the only thing that puts me off from living there... otherwise its still an awesome city!!
Flat country, high rental, high costs, high education, high car costs, double payment for helpers, and always hot hot at least Hong Kong is getting cooler Singapore is 34-38c every day😂
Those who say 'Hong Kong is still great' in the comments section are either delusional or had too little of an idea what had actually made Hong Kong the city it was. Convenience, scenic spots, local food, etc were 'great' but those weren't even nearly close to the main factors for Hong Kong to have prospered and propelled itself to one of the top international cities and capital centers. With the rule of law and separation from direct ruling by CCP being an entire relic of the past, few would consider Hong Kong distinct from any other mainland cities.Talk to anyone in the city and it's not hard to see freedom of speech which is the mother of all kinds of freedom has long been removed from the status quo there
Cantonese is on its way out in hk. Cantonese speaking hk'ers moving out, mandarin speakers moving in. Very soon the hk folks who choose to stay in hk have to speak mandarin to communicate.
@@yinanjiang5854 not really, its different dialects. I know because my hometown is in Guangdong. Many people in Guangdong speak their own dialects, plus some can speak Cantonese, and mandarin
@@yinanjiang5854 i lived there. We speak our own dialect, and the counties and villages next to us speak their dialect. Cantonese is rarely used unless we have to. And its very accented Cantonese compared to hk and Guangzhou cantonese.
Once met a gentleman holidaying in KL Malaysia who told me, Da Wan area in Shenzhen is the future for people of Hong Kong cus it's cheaper and has better infrastructure and a lot of Hong Kongers are already moving there en masse. Hong Kong with or without China in the equation was caving in, imploding on its own due to the cost of living and lack of land. This is nothing new. Statistically Hong Kongers leaving for the West are in extreme minority cus not everybody has the money to do so. Plus the standard of living in say the US, the UK and Canada is gonna be quite sub par comparing to what China can offer. Education though, is a different matter...
It is natural for the mainlanders to takeover the expatriates jobs This happen everywhere when the the locals are capable of doing the jobs of the expatriates.If the epatriates are unhsppy they can always go back to where they came from Hong Kong is part of China so the mainlanders can come to live and work here. Foreigners who cannot adapt and accept this reality can opt to go elsewhere. Nobody will stop them they should realise that eventually they have to go back to where they they come from. Hong Kong is no more a British colony so it is time for the expatriates and those local people who fancy for their socalled freedom to live in a democratic country can and should go to or emigrate to USA UK AUSTRALIA NEW ZEALAND EUROPE or TAIWAN Maybe they will find the lifestyles and freedom they look for all their lives. The choice is there and nobody will stop you.
I came across a HK lady by the name of Toulouse 😂 (capital of France Southern Occitanie region). They really have funny sense of humor. Wonder whether any others in HK have names like Bern (capital of Switzerland), Berlin (capital of Germany) or Rome 😂😂😂
Been here since 2007, my business property and life is here. Yes it’s changed but hasn’t everywhere changed in the last 17 years. If a place does not work for you move on to the next. That’s the expat lifestyle. All major cities are transient
What made HK unique was it was a mix of West and East, now its competing with other big cities like Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen..so its competitive advantage is lost.
I agree... if you don't acknowledge that it is a SPECIAL administrative region with its own unique abilities and quirks you are working to destroy it. I live in Macau SAR next to HK and mainland government and local government acknowledges our SPECIAL history with Portugal and Portuguese speaking countries to form bonds and do business. Why cant Hong Kong do the same with Anglo world?? Destroying the thing that change it from fishing village to a world leading city does not seem smart.
The colonial governments were not good or fair. Nobody should speak too favorably of them. But China promised to be liberator, letting us be what we want to. Yet they are no different sometimes.
Most of those expats left due to Covid.
Not at all. The competitive advantage is it's the difference of systems that give China the flexibility. Plus constant influx of mainlanders since early colonial days.
@@Gmko1 ...in the past the mainlanders were trying to avoid the ccp ...nowadays they are pro ...huge difference.
Sad indeed. I often traveled to HK, but not anymore.
Why won’t they just say ‘national security law’ - it’s absolutely ruined HK. And mainlanders coming in is EXACTLY what China wants - slowly supplant the local population, and then it’ll be just another Chinese city. 150 years of hard work gone, and it’s so utterly depressing.
150 years of colonization, not hard work. And by the way, Western countries don't hesitate to shut down similar protests so don't even try the freedom BS
Hk is China. Wth are you ranting about
It's not just HK and mainland. Many western Asian headquarters that were in Hong Kong have now moved to Singapore for example. Hong Kong was richest place in China when it was given to PRC in 1997. Now it's still rich but left behind by many tier 1 cities in PRC. Hong Kong was on par with Singapore back then, now way behind.
yep, even in communist countries people vote with their feet. I just laugh when people keep on saying how modern china is without having actually lived there as a lower income person..why is anyone with money trying to get to Singapore? and why is HK losing badly, really badly to Singapore?
Yup, and for certain reasons, many in threads like these refuse to admit reality.
Singapore did democracy right. That's why it flourish. They are even more advanced than USA in terms of democracy and capitalism. I wish USA would learn from them but people in USA are stubborn that they are the best. It resembles the sentiment in China. Is funny how similar yet different USA and China are.
I can see you have a western mind set, so this Hk might not be your taste. There are some places you can go to, like USA or UK for example, just go where your heart desired. Be a free person, a born again so to speak.
the main reason HK lost it's wealth because it used to be the gateway to China. ever since you could go direct to China, there became no need for HK in this regard
Been here since 1996, the only place I feel at home, it doesn't matter for me how Hong Kong changes. I am not leaving. People come and go, that's life.
Yes. As long as the place is safe and you can make a living. HK might be the most convenient city in the world.
Then you better learn to speak Mandarin, it'll be the only official language in 10 years time.
hong kong is still great. the media lies about it China immigrants are fine and good. very colorful and good people
Good that that you have reached the acceptance stage of living in a police state that brutalizes political dissidents and Uyghurs. And whose allies are other police states.
@@ocsugar wrong.
this is what happens when rents and property move quicker than they should. HK properties should be priced another 25% lower than it should today
I think it is more like 50% plus
Not gonna happen
but in real world DonYang is not the one who determines property prices around the world based on his feelings
Haha so many fellas affaid of falling property prices. 😂🤣
@@DonYang73 not afraid of falling prices. but who are you to say how much property prices should be? sellers and buyers think otherwise. And I mean buyers who actually end up buying, not those who would like to buy but decide not to.
For me, "my mats have to be filled". That's realistic and pragmatic business strategy, no question about that.
China will probably ban yoga next though.
@@bugsygoo Poor Dhalsim
Most of my friends are moving to Kuala Lumpur and Singapore City. I’m moving there in February 2025 as substantial divisions of Major international business are moving outside HK.
Does that mean you’ve stop doing business with China ?
HK > Singa…ALWAYS
Welcome to Kuala Lumpur/Singapore city…
I worked in HK in 2001, then moved to SG when it was still cheap in 2004 then moved to Shanghai 10 yrs later. Lots of changes expecially when i visited HK a few times after. Star ferry terminal moved. Lots of new buildings. My old apartment in Kennedy town was torn down and there was shiny new apartment there. The MTR reaches there now. Cities always change. Some move in , some move out. Life goes on
the MTR(undeground) reaches there while the old tram is still running there
@@7crli oh yeah sorry, when I was there the Island line use to end in Sheung Wan
Yeah lor
are you sure that the star ferry terminal moved?
One day you're surfing the web on Disney website, next day you accidentally loaded Winnie the pooh picture and your whole family is in black jail. People come and go. Life moves on. Yeah.....
My entire family came from China back in the 50s and the 60s. What's wrong with the influx of mainlanders? As someone who was born and brought up in HK, I am happy that they came.
Well Said!
because HK was a mix of east and west. now it's just east .
What'a wrong? For one we don't want people constantly spitting in the street 😂
Very Tue!! HK is part of China after all !
@@BigJoe-g3oThe way it used to be before being ceded to Britain
A major reason why expats left HKG over time is cos, HKG is no longer the gateway to mainland China, most major international corporations are now set up in mainland China! Since the handover back to China, HKG is no longer the laundering centre and listening post for the West! CNA, why the emphasis on MAINLANDERS, when HKG is just another Chinese city that Chinese ppl can move to....no different to Chinese and/or HKG Chinese moving to Shenzhen! The word EXODUS is so condescending! People move for economic and personal reasons except those affiliated with foreign agencies.
Volkswagen just closed it’s factory in Shanghai. The second and third factory are merging shifts and reducing staff. But on the bright side EVs is taking off in China internally. Combustibly. That is why the German left at least.
@@pehclark7256 Yes, The legacy car manufacturers no longer can compete, not only VW.....Nissan, Honda, Mitsubisihi, and US car makers are all packing up, whereas the Chinese EVs are exporting into the BRICs countries including SE Asia. Even Jim Farley, CEO of Ford conceded that US car makers cannot compete in tech and price after visiting China and China is an "essential threat" to the US car industry.
@@pehclark7256 According to the latest data from the Central Bank of Germany, German investments in China reached 7.3 billion euros (8.2 billion U.S. dollars) in the first half of 2024. Volkswagen is also investing 2.5 billion euros ($2.68 billion USD) in China. Companies open and close plants often due to production/strategy shift.
"when HKG is just another Chinese city that Chinese ppl can move to.. no difference than moving to Shenzhen", this is incorrect as Mainland Chinese will need to be granted with a permit to even visit HK. It's easier for a foreigner to visit HK compared to a mainlander. No permit is required to visit or even work in Shenzhen.
What made Hong Kong unique is the blending of Western and Eastern cultures.
If it is just “another Chinese city” in China - it is no longer special. Then why go to HK? you can just go to any other city in China.
So why take away what makes HK special? For what purpose than to satisfy someone’s ego?
CNA, do one for Singapore's expat exodus - and the influx of Malaysian
Cannot…. Against Singaporean national security
Won't be allowed by the Singaporean Government
@@InNout8888 Why? Is the Singaporean govt worse than the UK one? Lying about massive immigration?
CMIO framework. Racist by design
Lol
So now HK becoming another chinese city
LIke having attributes of great infrastructure, dynamic, vibrant, advanced in technology, clean and safe.
@@s._3560and must worship poor leader, no longer allowed to challenge politic, become racist society. Ya that one.
@@s._3560 Hello comrade.
no
香港难道不是中国的城市？
Just look at the rows of empty shop lots all over town, even Mong Kok and Tsim Sha Tsui. The influx of Mainlanders doesn’t help our economy at all.
Same thing is happening in Macau. Things are drying up outside the tourist areas.
Try coming to Melbourne and take a look. Better still, take a look at US😂
the last lady is the best English speaker from HK Local so far I have seen from CNA....
she's probably british
@@BigJoe-g3o but i don't notice she has that kind of British accent 😁
As a former HK resident, I can feel the difference that the crackdown and human rights suppression has brought. It's sad and makes me (and I dare say a number of Hong Kong people) long for the good old days.
What has changed in terms of human rights
a very strong comment with no substance. what did you lose in term of human rights?
@@dlk3904 Cannot comment without being censored.
As a Chinese/Australian I truly kiss old HK....it's just not the same any more....The influx of mainland Chinese have changed the feel of old HK to a China China feel.
Hong Kong is now much less internationalised than Tokyo Osaka and Seoul. I see far more western people on the street when I go to those cities, they are getting far more visitors from the west.
More visitors are going to Japan and Korea because the Japanese Yen and Korean Won are weak comparing to the HK Dollar. You get more bangs going to Tokyo and Seoul.
Westerners are not the only internationals.
Is West that valuable to you?
Silly comment.😊
There are probably also more westerners on the streets of Bangkok, even though the labor market there is far more restrictive than Hong Kong.
In Hong Kong, you can see Iranian garbage collectors, whereas in Thailand it would be unthinkable for a non-Thai or at least someone who is not from Myanmar or Cambodia to do such a job. An Iranian garbage collector in Thailand? There'd be plenty of stares and photographs taken by locals if that were the case
There are also a lot of restricted jobs only Thai nationals can perform.
Regardless, Bangkok is full of tourists, retirees, digital nomads and westerners working in all sorts of roles.
Still using the term "pro-democracy" protests? Seriously ?
yes. problem?
@@bennykoh
CNA....sheety Singapore media
@@blackknight4996 I agree the Singapore media leaves a lot to be desired. But I agree with their use of "pro democracy protests".
@@bennykoh Here , Singapore is a socialism wrap with democracy.
Which works very well .
China already a socialism+ "controlled capitalism" when Deng "open up" China.
Repost BY @jackychick
I am a Hong konger, and it is absolutely ridiculous that the so-called resistance from activists were ALL supporting Hong Kong INDEPENDENCE. Only people who are nuts would think that is possible, yet almost all rioters as well as many protestors were demanding self determination like a referendum for independence.
Almost all politicians from the so-called democratic party( in name only) broke the election laws on purpose and many were jailed subsequently despite repeated warnings from the government.
Most of the activists who organised the protests were also trying to be famous in local media as they would be interviewed by many journalists and literally everyone of them tried to run for local elections ! Protests were simply tools for them to get media exposure.
Western media in 2019 wanted to dump it down to communist sympathiers vs democracy protestors (blue and yellow ribbon in hong kong) when in fact the silent majority were both afraid of the communist AND they were even more afraid of fascist freedom fighters ( i.e the rioters) who hospitalised anyone that dared to exercise free speech and opposed their vandalism and violent protests.
Doxxing was rampant as children and relatives of the police, or anyone who dared to oppose violent protests were threatened and their homes attacked.
Many fled Hong Kong because they were arrested during the riots to escape potential prosecutions. what s the prosecution rate? out of 12000+ rioters, less than 1000 were sent to jail despite being caught red handed at the riots. Most were not even charged as you need beyond reasonable doubt in hong kong to prosecute a rioter.
By wearing masks, most of them could not be identified even if they were arrested with rioting gears like helmets, huge umbrella on sunny day, protective gears etc.
Out of every riot, e.g 300+ rioters, only 20+ would be arrested in the early months. i.e less than 10%. So out of 12000 people, with 99.3% of rioters got away with rioting as less than 1000 were jailed.
This sad affair ultimately prompted Beijing to establish the national security law. So hong kongers could no longer legally commit treason, like flying to the Congress and demanding America to sanction hong kong and China if hong kong couldn't have a western style democracy.
How many protestors were killed by the hong kong police during 5 months of protests and riots? ZERO. Did rioters kill anyone? One unarmed cleaner was murdered by a rioter in broad daylight as they got accustomed to throwing bricks at the police and they threw bricks at unarmed innocents for opposing violent protests.
Another was set on fire and required multiple surgeries to survive. A total of at least 70+ unarmed innocents were severely hospitalised by rioters, a dozen required surgeries as the fascist mobs beat them to a pulp.
Only a few were reported like they were isolated incidents when in fact the rioters brutality against unarmed innocents were happening EVERY SINGLE WEEK for FIVE months, terrorising millions of hong kongers.
Solution? Many pretend to support them. e.g they stopped all the cars at motorways and demand drivers to donate money to their cause, so many simply shouted their protests slogans and they were immediately let go!
What about the 200,000 HKers who left to UK? A lot of them might come back especially after realising UK is a shithole
From the largest empire in the world to a woke backwater in only a generation. After everything that's been learned from the Enlightenment, you would think that people would strive for more freedom and independence, not revert into administrative oblivion and authoritarianism. The trend is terrifying.
What about most of the CCP officials taken second passport outside of China?
Like Carrie Lam children, where are they now?
lol, none of them came back...
Anyone who do not see a future for himself is free to leave HK. HK people must owe their loyalty to the PRC not to Britain. Those who want to be British Subjects should leave.
Indeed
Only 50% of those who left for the UK in the last two years have found employment.
And the path to become a British Subject is not so easy.
I fully agree with you. Those who are not happy with how Hong Kong is now are free to leave and never return.
@@hongqi5734Except for those in jail, of course. They'll be staying.
Been here 61 years and not leaving. The old adage "Many a slip twixt cup and lip" now needs to be brought up-to-date with the wording "Many a slip twixt brain and lip". So just bear that in mind and HK is, as it has always been, "A Great Place to Live!"
twixt?
Hong Kong is the city with the largest number of spies in the world, spies have infiltrated every Fortune 500 company in Hong Kong, every Hong Kong embassy, and every Hong Kong people's life, after Article 23 of the Hong Kong Basic Law, a large number of foreigners have left, guess what is the connection between these two things?
what are the top 3 things that you love about it ! :)
@@BigJoe-g3o same things I love, probably the things you hate
Yes, now you just shouldn't say anything critical about the CCP anymore.
Remember you don't have free speech in HK anymore.
Anything that is against the party line can now be prosecuted and you can get jailed.
But yeah, a great place to live...
These blokes look in the mirror and think expat.
Locals look at them and think P prowler at best or Gary glitter at worst
At least not Jimmy Saville 😂
Expat A is filming a white Expat B.. and call B the expat.. and not admit that A is an expat too. lol....
Calling mainland chinese as expat?? CNA you already in a risk of violating the HK NSL... 🤐
...the Hong Konger they interviewed referred to PRCs as expats as well. One country two systems, means there's still some differentiation. Mainland authorities themselves have been inflating "foreign" tourist numbers into HK, by counting PRCs under those as well. So are you saying CCP is doing the wrong thing...?
Collect your wumao and go get a life.
SE Asians do not see themselves as an expat to the HK's city scenes though... even though the law is against to filter THEM out.. but they keep going though... Why ? Despite them being the outsider. So an outsider reporting on an outside situation which they themselves fall into... So... that makes sense... lol... So they didn't think about to admitting and converting their passport into the HK SAR one.. or the chinese passport. So they don't do interviews and asks questions like... "Mrs Yip... when I have a Singapore passort... and your actual... policy is rolled out, would that affect me because"..... MOST British media, would do that, but MOST media like SCMP and HK ones.. would never do that ! Why ?....
spent many years in HK as an expat and the locals referred to them as locusts 😂 'expats' is definately a term of endearment..or we could coin a new term, Exbats 🦇
@@MeiinUKChinese not SE Asians... talking too much full of BS...
Quality of life is the same in Hong Kong and Singapore. People live in micro prison cells. Singapore and Hong Kong offer nothing to anyone. Bangkok offers more to expat than Hong Kong and Singapore combine.
不一样，香港人可以直接到湾区，新加波没办法直接去马来西亚！新加波只有那一点，但香港属于中国，香港人可以到中国别的城市生活定居
@@cloudwithwind574you get your facts wrong. Only Malaysian want to come to Singapore not the other way round. Young educated Singaporean will go elsewhere, maybe only retirees will go Malaysia
@@summerapple7062 Learn to read before writing a nonsense comment.
@@cloudwithwind574 only elderly and lower class Singaporeans want to live in Malaysia.
Singapore is slightly better than HK I think, in terms of housing and civility at least, but in terms of eateries and cars HK is cheaper than SG.
You all miss the point. Hongkong is part of China. Tel me what's wrong with mainland Chinese going into HK. You guys still think HK belong to British. That's your problem.
Vladistock is a part of china lol
You get less major companies investing, so less money is flowing and less quality talent. Mainland Chinese don’t know what freedom is. In the meantime Singapore is gaining big time and the economic powerhouse that used to be Hong Kong is slowly dying
Ohhh take it easy Francis
@@tommyd3257 Just last month, Hong Kong has reclaimed its position as Asia's top financial center, surpassing Singapore. Globally, Hong Kong is now ranked third, behind New York and London.
@@thetruthinquirer so why expatriates exodus?
CNA always love to talk down on Hong Kong. Shame on you CNA.
I felt that too
CNA received many complains from Filipinos because they only highlight the negative and sensationalist news in their UA-cam channel. This is common practice by CNA Media
We must have watched two different videos. In this video, CNA clearly says that expats are coming back (which i don't believe is true)
Well, what else do you expect?
Fox News of Asia. 😂
expatriates? Was there any patriotism from a colonial?
Who are the "colonials"? What has "patriotism" gotta do with the exodus五毛？
Not expats - they were colonizers
Ohhh boy
Relax with the patriotism. It’s repulsive to bring up in every conversation
only in your mind, maybe. when HK / China companies send staff to other nations, they are expatriates too.
It is politically correct that Hong Kong is always a part of China but Hong Kong was forcefully taken by British more than 100 years ago. It is normal for mainland Chinese to visit and stay in Hong Kong Kong after all, Hong Kong is now PART of China. Under the British rule in Hong Kong, Hong Kongers have NO voting rights at all but ironically, Hong Kongers are still kowtowed to Brits for their arrogant and condescending tones and attitudes towards not only Hong Kongers but also the Asians. After all, Hong Kong has contributed tremendously by channeling her collections of duties and taxes towards British economy during the dire economy of United Kingdom in 1970 to 1980. On the flip side, United Kingdom is now economically at her lowest ebb after Brexit and the uncalled for "decoupling" with China(proxy of Big Brother) and UK is bracing for the incoming economy turbulence in the very near future... The West perceive that ONLY West could ONLY bring modernization nd prosperity under the name of "democracy and human rights"...
At least the Brits allowed preservation of local culture and they don't forcefully ban education in Cantonese
@@motherbear5997then Hong kongers go to Singapore and Malaysia and expect they can get education in Cantonese? It's the same! Even in Taiwan when a substantial people speak a certain Fujian dialect, do they have school curriculum in that dialect?
@@motherbear5997 of course they "allowed" preservation of local culture. They never really cared for the education nor any real sense of development for the conquered. As long as they can maintain status quo, why would they want to rock the boat?
If you can look beyond such a basic simple political maneuver, would you really think the Brits are that considerate to the locals?
@@motherbear5997Do you know the cage homes in Hong Kong is a relic from colonialism? Funny no one talks about that part of the “culture” in Hong Kong.
@@motherbear5997 Schools in HK still teach in Cantonese, what are you talking about? Mandarin lessons are of course conducted in Mandarin and ditto English but everything else is taught in Cantonese
Moreover Cantonese is widely spoken in Guangzhou, just like dialects in every province in China, be it Sichuan, Shanghai, Hunan, Fujian, etc. The death or "suppression" of Cantonese in Hong Kong has been used as another weapon against China. It's simply not true
The change in demography is natural. In ten years' time, it can become another Chinese city, just like those in the mainland China. It is no longer a bridge between the West and China since this is no longer needed by the West and China alike. both of which are decoupling from each other very fast in every aspect, tech, ideology, economy etc. Nevertheless, HK will still be alive and progressing rapidly.
Decoupling is on paper...chinas share in manufacturing is bigger than what it was 15 years ago. Where do you see decoupling in reality ?
More Indian need to migrate to HK and HK ethnic Chinese migrate to U.S so HK won't be another Chinese city and will be Indian city.
HK doesn't feel as alive to me as before. I think Singapore, Taiwan and maybe some mainland China cities or Western places (a lot of HKers moved to UK) benefited. Just being another Chinese city means loosing what was special about HK. You can see from things like property prices it HAS affected the economy and not in a way strengthening the economy. Also so many of the people I know there want to leave still but didn't all find the way, yet.
HK will still be alive and progressing rapidly? 笑死我啦。
Feels just like Australia. Melbourne is slowly becoming China as well
exodus? 80 to 72 is not significant! as far as business go, no biz should focus on the colour of the skin of their customers... they are all customers...
Singapore and HK are competitors. HK equity markets are booming now. This is just sour grapes from Singapore news media.
Try calling for the end of Communist Rule in Hong Kong. Surely you will be arrested.
Finally a comment section that is free from those Pakistani and Muslim bots that dominate every CNA video comment section.
Expats leaving means outsiders who mostly r descendants of colonisers r leaving while mainlanders r coming means native people r coming so whats wrong in that
noisy ... rude ... lol
it's that expats are genereally welcomed as agents of change (for the better) and the mainlanders mindset is archaic, robotic and non progressive. that's why locals have always wanted to work for international companies and not be trapped in jobs with managers/conditions from hell
Mainlanders are widely seen as even worse when their wallets are closed. Just because they’re “native” doesn’t mean they’re better.
Expats doesn’t have the spending power like mainlanders. Appreciate the fact they are still keeping your business alive so you can put food on the table.
HK would collapse without Mainland business and resources. Water, energy and food alone HK heavily relies on the Mainland
Oh blimey
The business gets more overspecialized and brittle to shock though without that foreign contribution and patronage.
Most HKs originally came from china lmao. Expats left back in 1980 when thatcher signed the deal and people said hong kong was over 😂😂😂😂
they "escaped" from China ruling. Expats still here while 1980. but this time they really go.
The British India Company grew opium in India, exported the opium to China to get the Chinese hooked on the drugs. What followed was the Infamous Opium War of 1897 in which the Western countries in Europe led by England gave the Opposing Chinese forces a licking in the infamous Opium War in the Battle of Nanking. The Chinese were defeated and had to accede the Island of Hong Kong to UK for 100 years until 1997 when Hong Kong was returned to China. China never forgets that humiliation.
The Russian invasion of Manchuria or Chines expedition (‹See Tfd›Russian: Китайская экспедиция)[4] occurred in the aftermath of the First Sino-Japanese War (1894-1895) when concerns regarding Qing China's defeat by the Empire of Japan, and Japan's brief occupation of Liaodong, caused the Russian Empire to speed up their long held designs for imperial expansion across Eurasia.
Outer Manchuria was ruled by a series of Chinese dynasties and the Mongol Empire, but control of the area was ceded to the Russian Empire by Qing China during the Amur Annexation in the 1858 Treaty of Aigun and 1860 Treaty of Peking,[6] with the terms "Outer Manchuria" and "Russian Manchuria" arising after the Russian annexation.
You claimed “"China never forgets that humiliation." why you forgot about the treaty of aigun? russia was also involved in the opium war? why did you forget this? 你的俄爹对你们做的坏事都忘了？
Agree. Now UK and USA had drugs problems..This karma of doing evil and being punished!!
@@richardbtlim8095
Funfact: Afghanistan opium production drop below Myanmar.
Now, Myanmar is the largest producer of opium in the world.
United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime.
UNODC: Afghan opium poppy cultivation plunges by 95 percent under Taliban
ONLY after U$A departure , Afghanistan able to close down most opium production.
Now you know who is the culprit .
Atleast you recovered your land. Look at Australia. The original owners of the land have lost their land forever. Look at Canada and US.
@@bennykoh👍
Having more Mainland Chinese in HK is a huge boost and a good thing for HK!
No I don't want to learn mandarin and I don't like the CCP I'm not a communist neither do I believe in communism!
Sad. HK is losing its charm. Soon, it'll be just another China city
It is a Chinese city now, it always was.@@haroldzee2978
@@IcanseeeverythingwhatyouDohere you can bno
@@haroldzee2978 worse than most China cities😂
Expats. Lovely word. Probably coined by the British to called themselves in order to mask the sting of being an immigrant.
HK has lost it charm.. it is now just a normal commi city that is like any other city in China
You mean decolonisation from the west? About time HongKong is truly gaining independence.
The "charm" you are referring to is probably "democracy and human rights" ? And May I guess the kind of human rights and democracy the west, the ex-British Empire and the declining empire, namely the US, are so fond of talking about ?
You want hongkong to be another European white country ?
What charm? It's such an expensive and crowded place.
@@yinanjiang5854Yes, it is. You're just afraid to admit it.
Either a lot of bots in these comment sections, or a lack of critical thinking from the people writing them.
yup. you will notice a lot of 五毛posting on anything related to us or china or previously in the olympics.
Cuz it doesn't match ur thinking and view of life so u called it bots?
The bots always claim others to be bots. It’s what you bots do
@@Rav01508 sorry, google translate isn't functioning properly today - you'll have to try another app. Shall I suggest DeepL?
@@johnc1873 Lol, reminds me back in 2016 when I was replying to trump supporters on facebook and they called me a Russian bot... Because they saw my name... My name was in the greek alphabet 😂 Anyway, shill elsewhere.
What's wrong with expat leaving and replaced by Mainlanders?
You are concerned with the welfare of HK?
then there's no western influence. HK was great because it was a mix of east and west.
Replaced by the Mainlanders means the vibe of Hong Kong is destroyed and will be replaced by the Communist vibe and rules and regulations, which are unacceptable.
@BigJoe-g3o This is 21st century. Nothing great about Britain that could be brough to the table.
Nothing wrong with more Mainland Chinese in HK China especially those who are talented.
they are really talented. you can find those news. haha.
I don't see the problem. Chinese want to move to another Chinese district. Foreigners leaving for their own country? So what? Shouldn't they go back to where they came from since they are not permanent residents? Expats are just temporary workers on a work visa.
@@iu2the problem is how much they will spend in hk which impacting hk economy so much.
@@yaulkwong3775Lol yes
The Chinese 🇨🇳 regime called it the "Hong Kong Great Replacement" theory, by moving the mainland Chinese to where they want to replace.
It's something they did in Tibet, Mongolia, Xinjiang, and now Hong Hong.
No a lot of hong kongers with families moved to shenzhen so they can have bigger houses and cheaper living expenses and commute to Hong Kong via the express train. Shenzhen and the whole Guanzhou are Cantonese which is the originating province that Hong Kongers came from. Hong Kong is too damned expensive. It’s good for young people who want to work in finance and have a glamorous life but it’s too small and crowded to raise families comfortably. Also they moved the very poor people who lived in cages to mainland too. Old people also retiring to mainland due to easier to find caretakers for cheap. Remember Hong Kong has too few apartments but mainland has over supply of apartments.
It is the same as to what Americans did to Texas and California and they snatched it from Mexico or what the European did to North and South America. Hawaii is also another perfect example.
It's a free port city for every law-abiding person from the world.
None of you have been here your opinions are irrelevant
Taiwan 🇹🇼 Hong Kong 🇭🇰 Macau 🇲🇴 Xinjiang Tibet Inner Mongolia China 🇨🇳 but poor Philippines 🇵🇭 not independent country it’s a USA 🇺🇸 colony 🧐🌎👍
Quality people leave and the no-nuts replace them.
"One country, two systems," what a shameful lie!
What is the lie? 馬照跑，舞照跳，酒照飲。。。
Britain colonized Hong Kong for 150 years and in the first 100 years, it practised a racial seggregation policy mirroring the Apartheid in South Africa. All the European premises were reserved for the European community in Hong Kong only and the Chinese majority were not allowed to enter. Hong Kong Musem was a rare exception that the local Chinese were allowed to visit but only in the restricted time slots. There was also a curfew policy for the local Chinese who were mandatory to stay indoors at night or carry a lantern to be visible at all times if they have to leave their homes for emergency purposes but no such restrictions were in place for the Europeans in the colony. All the officials, from the Hong Kong Governor to the street police, were sent to the colony directly from London. The local Chinese had no political freedom at all.
In the WWII, Britain lost the colony to the Japanese. After the WWII, Britain regained the colony and it started to reconsider the policy of racial seggregation and the local Chinese were allowed to enter European premises and even lived in the European quaters. Grassroot-level positions in the government started to accept the local Chinese, but medium-level and high-level positions were strictly occupied by the British. It persisted until the 1990s. Hong Kong was never a democracy under the 150-year British rule. In the 70s, there were student movements against the British colonial govt in the city and was harshly cracked down.
@@GoodCitizen-gm1tlTrue indeed.
It used to be like this and that. Stop the unnecessary nostalgia.
Enjoy backwater status again!
If you love Britain and want to serve the King then leave. CCP won’t stop you and nobody is going to stop you at the airport. It is best for all parties.
Best for all parties is to let the majority of the people who live in Hong Kong decide and elect who runs it. I know that concept is lost by people who are oppressed.
They never had elections even when the British rented the territory
Apparently whoever wrote the original post didn't appreciate the concept
@@tommyd3257the Chinese don’t need your advice about Hong Kong because when Britain was in charge you didn’t give them a choice ! Only when your days was numbered you reluctantly gave them a choice .
ha "server the King" many hate the monarch. But do you want to server your life to "communism" and be proud of it?
Nothing stays the same. Change is constant
Seriously CNA, its really low to work for CIA for Singapore, your founding father would be ashame, mind your own business, its not like Singapore doesn't hav a problem.
Singapore should take note
why? when factories move out and expat leave Singapore for China during 90's. Did Singapore just stand there and do nothing? Nothing stay same forever. Changes and adapt are the ways.
Take note NOT to let too many PRC ahtiong commies into the country? For sure!
They are benefiting from taking the top expat and Hong Kong natives.
@@albertjohn8723SG is still a vital port for the world. HK doesn’t have such a unique advantage with GZ and SZ just up the river.
What you are not hearing is the voice of ordinary Hong Kongers working in companies being taken over by mainland companies with the CCP embedded overseeing everything. This is part of a systematic process to eliminate HK identity so that it is not just aligned with the CCP but the dominant Mandarin speaking population. Not only are working conditions far worse but natives are treated as second class citizens, excluded from decision making and responsibility. This creates a dilemma as many more would like to leave but it means not just loss of place and identity but family ties which are central to their lives. Those foreign expats who think it makes no difference are completely divorced from what is going on right in front of them.
Change and adapt to survive, that should be the way. This is the way.
What’s with the annoying background soundtrack? Irritating, I gave up watching.
Is it so hard to get some data from HK immigration? WHY IS NEWS NOWADAYS JUST TAKE SOME COMMENTS AND PRESENT IT AS WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING?? Gym that cater to foreign students see a drop in business is as simiple as who in the right mind will send kids to school that is a breeding ground of CIA operations!
where is your proof of these "school that is a breeding ground of CIA operations!"?
There's no going back to the "old" HK. In 5-8 years, HK will become the equivalent of a 2nd tier city of China, much earlier than the 2047 deadline of the 50 years no change fantasy (policy). by then, all of HK's treasury savings should have been drained as planned.
The rich leaves, replaced by the poor. It's unfortunate. It's the same as mainland, the rich leave...
Your presentation is highly interesting to watch. Thank you very much and take care
Lawyers and bankers leaving only means the criminal elements of society is feeling the heat and running away.
When people used to shout Liberate Hong Kong Revolution Our Times in 2019, nothing have been heard of since.
Hong Kong expat (and local) exodus... on weekends. It was quite interesting to see the HK citizens and expatysgoing to Shenzhen for the weekend. Why? Because its cheaper and service is often better.
And the street walkers are more brazen.
Yeah, that "cheaper and (better) service" is reverting to "happy ending....five dorrah mo!"
Get real! It's all well and good to love your country and be a patriot, but loving your country and patriotism also means recognizing where you fail.
It’s always been that way, much like Singapore-Johor Bahru or San Diego-Tijuana. The key is living and earning money in a more secure environment, which HK no longer is.
That is only the poors... They don't matter.
Influx of mainland Chinese? Dont you fool me. Even dogs and cats turn their heads away from Hong Kong nowadays.
You are insulting 7.5 million Hong Kong residents as ` worse than dogs and cats'
Most of them are.😂
Expats should learn to adapt. If expats in China and many other countries can, why not the expats in HK? ... when in Rome,...
Even migrants to the US and Europe have to adapt to local Western values. Why is it that it doesn't apply to other countries?
Colonizers - no expats
Western high horse
what values you expect expats to adopt?
RIP HongKong. It was great the way it was and always has been but under the current regime, they slowly killing HK in its core, values, and culture. Sad
Not a colonized by west anymore
Free from the west. There are some other islands around the world still colonized by them. Probably you want your country to be the same. You can invite them to do so.
Used to be a tax shelter but now mainland gets full visibility. That will drive away big finance. Singapore, Jakarta and Bangkok benefit.
For people dont live in HK and trash talk about HK. Come and see. HK is one of the best cities in the world. It's safe, super efficient, and convenient, but it's expensive!
I did see… and found other places that are cheaper and at least as convenient: Seoul, Taipei, even Jakarta
I remember during the 1980’s there was a lots of advertisements regarding keeping HK clean ( for eg, live chicken market, trolley hawkers, spitting, throwing garbage etc etc) and really HK was lot cleaner then. Nowadays it has become dirtier than ever.
CNA at its best.... 😂
In 2010 I did an internship in Hong Kong for a year. It was one of the best times of my life. Besides a nice job there was also a vibrant nightlife. Met a lot of nice and young people from different cultures, Europeans, Indians, Americans, Russians, Southeast Asians and Hong Kongers. Around that period the influx of mainland Chinese also started. I also noticed this in the behavior, in terms of politeness there is a visible difference between Hong Kongers and mainland Chinese. The mainland Chinese are nice, but much more focused on their own society and less on other ethnic cultures. But that is also fine, because after all HK belongs to China, so it is a Chinese city. But I do think that it will become less cosmopolitan and more of a homogeneous city than other Chinese cities. And honestly, I think that mainland Chinese are quite racist. But maybe it is more because other cultures in China are unknown to them.
Hong Kong has declined a lot in the last decade. Now no longer a very attractive place to live.
It has never been a nice place to live. Noisy,overcrowded,expensive....
much better than Singapore, plenty of hiking and outdoor activities. Winter is nice.
But HK will be back.
@@sfjava6239 oh really? then why are the foreigners flocking to singapore and fleeing from HK? why are many foreign banks relocating their asia-pac HQ from HK to singapore?
@@sfjava6239 we singaporeans can talk about winnie the pooh and criticise our government and their policies. can you?
The controversial national security law is possibly scaring away investors. It's no wonder that the atmosphere in the city looks quiet.
They could be from CIA Mossad, who knows 😂😂
Maybe. They could also be from FSB, KGB or ministry of state security. I m sure you know which country MSS comes from eh五毛？
No, those left after the riots 😅
where is your proof? they could well be from the ministry of state security. you do know MSS hails from which country right?
@@alanc457 i see. where is your proof?
It's no longer a British colony IN ANY SENSE so pack your bags. 😂
.....yes yes, and enjoy fish head soup as the weekly delicacy!
@@jrpark05 nahhh I prefer fish & chips.
Hong Kong will become richer than ever thanks to technology. Shenzhen and Hong Kong are the future! 🇨🇳🇭🇰
Any statistics to prove?
Actually HK will become a region for those rich Shenzhen people.
@@happymelon7129 are these "rich shenzhen people" enough to save the retail and F&B economy of HK"? thousands of HK people flock to shenzhen every weekend to eat and buy groceries. hundreds, even thousands of HK business have shuttered after the pandemic. when was the last time you went to HK?
@@bennykoh
You must wake up from your dream that there are no more "HK" , it was a region of Shenzhen now.
Don't be so __D__b that they need to keep all the retail/shop of a region of SZ at higher price. The HK region should balance out as part of ShenZhen only.
Their real focus will be on HK finance sector only.
HK Housing/shop price should go down for the benefit of the people.
Please Hong Kong ain't no tech hub.
Doom and gloom from CNN. I mean CNA as usual.
Typical CNA view of things. Expats come and go. HK is pragmatic as ever.. adapt and move with time.
hong kong would be boring now. it's like i f singapore became totally chinese and there was no indian or malay culture . that's bad.
Before Hong Kong returned to the mainland, many HK people immigrated to Canada, Australia, and the US. In around 2004 or 2005, the Canadian Embassy in Hong Kong released a figure indicating more than half a million Canadian citizens resided in HK. Many were HK immigrants returning to Hong Kong to work after getting their legal residence statuses. Fast forward to today, most of these people should be approaching their retirement age, and I believe they would prefer to retire in their immigrated countries because of the generous retirement benefits there. That may be another reason for the expat exodus.
Isn't Singapore the same, if not even more restrictive than China to personal movement than China ?
From what i hear, Singapore is trying to loosen up to attract the people moving out of HK
Have you been to either Singapore or China, or just regurgitating anglo-saxon media lies???
Not at all. Look at those rich PRCs moving to Singapore.
@@ericphua2359 What about the POOR PRC ? Does it mean that China actually fulfills its obligation to poor people ? Rich people grew rich thanks to China, now they cut and run after they got rich. Ungrateful ?
@WalkOverHotCoal . Even Jack Ma retired in Japan. Who is any outsider to judge? It their money, it their life.
not been there in 6yrs, the cost vs size of apartments and the cost of living is the only thing that puts me off from living there... otherwise its still an awesome city!!
Pro-democracy protest? Ha! Most of us, I'd say, know nothing is further from the truth!
Singapore is better than Hong Kong
Flat country, high rental, high costs, high education, high car costs, double payment for helpers, and always hot hot at least Hong Kong is getting cooler Singapore is 34-38c every day😂
Boring place. Good for two weeks, then what?
@@Dishfire101 🤫 you don’t want him to come back 😜
Makassar is better
Why always compare SG to HK? Isn't Dubai also better than HK?
It's called assimilation.
Turn out the lights, the party’s over….they say that all good things must come to an end….
Good for who?
Those who say 'Hong Kong is still great' in the comments section are either delusional or had too little of an idea what had actually made Hong Kong the city it was. Convenience, scenic spots, local food, etc were 'great' but those weren't even nearly close to the main factors for Hong Kong to have prospered and propelled itself to one of the top international cities and capital centers. With the rule of law and separation from direct ruling by CCP being an entire relic of the past, few would consider Hong Kong distinct from any other mainland cities.Talk to anyone in the city and it's not hard to see freedom of speech which is the mother of all kinds of freedom has long been removed from the status quo there
Well that contained zero information lol.
It was never world city, but more like regional. My coworkers all got apartments there as retirement fund
Cantonese is on its way out in hk. Cantonese speaking hk'ers moving out, mandarin speakers moving in. Very soon the hk folks who choose to stay in hk have to speak mandarin to communicate.
That’s what happened to GZ
@@yinanjiang5854 not really, its different dialects. I know because my hometown is in Guangdong. Many people in Guangdong speak their own dialects, plus some can speak Cantonese, and mandarin
@@yinanjiang5854 i lived there. We speak our own dialect, and the counties and villages next to us speak their dialect. Cantonese is rarely used unless we have to. And its very accented Cantonese compared to hk and Guangzhou cantonese.
@@wl6020 what kind of dialects
Once met a gentleman holidaying in KL Malaysia who told me, Da Wan area in Shenzhen is the future for people of Hong Kong cus it's cheaper and has better infrastructure and a lot of Hong Kongers are already moving there en masse. Hong Kong with or without China in the equation was caving in, imploding on its own due to the cost of living and lack of land. This is nothing new. Statistically Hong Kongers leaving for the West are in extreme minority cus not everybody has the money to do so. Plus the standard of living in say the US, the UK and Canada is gonna be quite sub par comparing to what China can offer. Education though, is a different matter...
Only AMDK is upset with expat departure, talents come from all over the planets and there are abundant from mainland China
Why would I move here as an expat? This place is tremendously expensive to live in
As part of Greater Bay Area, homes will be more spacious, won't it?
It is natural for the mainlanders to takeover the expatriates jobs This happen everywhere when the the locals are capable of doing the jobs of the expatriates.If the epatriates are unhsppy they can always go back to where they came from
Hong Kong is part of China so the mainlanders can come to live and work here. Foreigners who cannot adapt and accept this reality can opt to go elsewhere. Nobody will stop them they should realise that eventually they have to go back to where they they come from. Hong Kong is no more a British colony so it is time for the expatriates and those local people who fancy for their socalled freedom to live in a democratic country can and should go to or emigrate to USA UK AUSTRALIA NEW ZEALAND EUROPE or TAIWAN
Maybe they will find the lifestyles and freedom they look for all their lives. The choice is there and nobody will stop you.
Rich CCP ppl go Singapore, poor go Hong Kong
Just to keep their money outside China,
What is the definition of an expat??
I read somewhere only a white person can be called an expatriate, all others, migrant workers
FOREIGNER.
sort of wealthy foreigners, a British guy said.
@@willgates8383 from what I read , only white people are considered expatriates
New definition: mainlanders
Sg is no different. Thousands and thousands of prcs flock into Nus everyday.
新加波大部分都是华人，中国人去有什么问题
有啊，因为你们不是新加坡人。 Simple as that.
Sad state in HK
Alpha sounds more Singaporean than Hong Kong.. but Alpha for a girl’s name? Sounds like only in Hong Kong you will have such name..
alpha's a cute feminine name. Alphonso would be the masculine version
I ever received a hongkie name card , “Linux Chan” and i was 😂
I have saw Zero, Circle, Orange amongst others. Very creative!
I came across a HK lady by the name of Toulouse 😂 (capital of France Southern Occitanie region). They really have funny sense of humor. Wonder whether any others in HK have names like Bern (capital of Switzerland), Berlin (capital of Germany) or Rome 😂😂😂
😂@@zzy341
Been here since 2007, my business property and life is here. Yes it’s changed but hasn’t everywhere changed in the last 17 years. If a place does not work for you move on to the next. That’s the expat lifestyle. All major cities are transient
The locals are getting back their jobs.