First Look! NEW 2025 Honda CRF450 & CRF250 models
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- #motocross #honda
Just released! Just announced is the all-new 2025 Honda CRF250 and CRF450 models. Equipped with new frames, new linkages, new airboxes, new exhausts and more, MXA’s Josh Mosiman talked with Trey Canard about the changes and about the partnership between the Honda R&D program and the factory HRC Honda race teams. Plus, Honda also announced the CRF450 Works Edition is returning for 2025 and, a brand new model, the 2025 Honda CRF250 Works Edition is being released as well.
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It has a retro look--like a bike from the 80s or 90s. It's amazing how much tank shrouds define the look of a bike.
they have always made or broke a bikes look. seems all manufacturers are ruining their bikes with the shrouds they are putting out these days.
modern 450s have so little plastic. I guess it's related to numbers not being very important for scoring as well as the frame ergos/intake. anywho...I think the worst offender is the Beta 450. oye. I prefer a nice clean, shroud. hehe
The shrouds resemble a 1990 cr
Trey Canard has been huge for Honda, it shows in many ways.
I guess I just compartmentalize things so much that once I saw he was testing Honda's new e-bike for MX, I only thought of him as working on that all the time.
😀
@@daneg yeah true. I think he's a great ambassador. I have to imagine he's due some credit for their recent success
Ahhh Tim gaiser has been the one that’s really developed this bike,
This is the first time Honda has released a new 250 and 450 chassis at the same time in over 30 years! HOLY CRAP!
Shrouds have a very 80s look I like it.
Not much of a honda guy myself but the shrouds gave me a little smile lol
shrouds have a 1982 CR125/250 look
I think it has something to do w their 50th anniversary year
Yep, everything goes full circle. Nothing new under the sun.
I prefer the crayon-ish graphics of the mid 90s (red not purple though).
They need the black plastic in thier like Tim’s
a stupid pointed top with no bottom covrage on the radiator
who designs this crap -a blind engineer ?
Honda should bring the 2 strokes back! A modern cr250r or cr500 would be amazing with fuel injection and direct injection like a snowmobile 2 stroke similar to arctic cats Ctec-2 The thing would be a game changer! It would make people realize that 4 strokes are not king. Innovation completely changed the modern 4 stroke if they didnt just stick with their same old formula and actually evolved 2 strokes like they have with the snowmobile market motocross as we know it would be a sea of 2 and 4 strokes not just 450 fart machines...
Unfortunately it will never happen. Honda as a company hates 2-strokes, always have. They will never make them again. Only started to make them in the 70’s to compete in Motocross. They were also the main ones pushing for their ban in both motocross and MotoGP in the 00’s.
Soichiro Honda always hated them. Thinks they are dirty engines. As a company they oppose the technology, then and now. Only built them because they had to in order to compete in racing.
So I guess in the next few years they’ll have to put their numbers on the gas tanks because the way it’s going the rear number plates will be non existent
just got back into moto last year after ~20 years. first thing i noticed was how irrelevant the side panels were with regard to numbers. I guess it makes sense given that they're tracked by radio/gps these days. but my gawd those side panels look awful. i think the worst offender is the 2023 Beta.
Trey is an amazing ambassador for the sport and Honda HRC as a whole well said "rigidity balance " not stiffness josh =] you also are doing an amazing job and you have improved your skills on and off the videos keep them comming
2024 is ao much better looking
Wow really ? Looks like shit with the 90s radiator shrouds …
So much respect for Trey. Many blessings to ya brother. The bikes looks amazing. Might have to go back to red.
CLEARLY trying to capture the 80s....that radiator shroud top curve/angle screams 1982 CR....seat screams 80's as well.....softened rounded rear vertical section, even puffier profile at the tank ("Safety Ceet" style)......those graphics and placemnt are very 1985 CR mixed with '85 KTM or Cagiva. Love it.
I’ll wait until the mxa review and then decide.
I absolutely love this current trend of 1980s understated goodness. The anniversary Huskies recently take the cake, but this Honda looks great.
Husky did it 100x better
@@kylejo96 Agreed. That said, Kawasaki's retro schemes this year look good too. I especially dug a damn 2024 Ninja 500 in retro livery. How we come full circle.
The only thing missing is a Jeremy McGrath Steel frame.❤🔥
Aluminum frame? YZM 500 1987. Dual exhausts? That wasn't exactly a good idea
The side number plates look bad, what little bit there is
Awesome bikes good stuff Trey and Honda, probably the best stock hondas in 10 years, wish 4 strokes were cheaper to maintain tho like the old 2 stroke days my only con.
It doesnt look good at all in my opinion i see the attempt at the retro styling with the shrouds but its toooo squared off and odd. doesnt flow well at all.
That thing looks SWEEET 🤘
Just needs some gold wheels and a blue seat 🤩
100%
The last shot so sick!! 🔥
Beautiful
Love those graphics. Simple and clean AF!!!!!
Love the old-school look of this, but the tiny sideplates look odd.
Barely any plastics anymore, it’s crazy.
TRUMP2024🇺🇸
Oooooweee 🤩 250 works edish
Just makes me wanna build another 2T
Keren CRF 450 dan 250 tahun 2025 👍👍
Homologation rules make racing better. Forces manufacturers to make good bikes normal people can get, not just build a bike from scratch that isn't achievable.
When is the crf350 due?
Honda the king of using 20 year old parts but still making it look new
How are you gonna fit a number on the left side
Put Jett on the kawi, he will still be #1
Well ya, Kawi's are amazing bikes.....I would change that statement to "Jett would still be #1 on a Zuki or Beta"
Does the 450 and 250 share the same frame?
yes as far as iv'e heard.
I'm very excited to see what the test riders say. I've always loved Hondas, but have been hesitant due to the "bipolar" reputation the bike has.
Nice looking bike - love the simple graphics! Hopefully Honda was able to knock some weight off the bikes to get them sort of competitive weight wise with the Austrian machines....
Looking forward to MXA's tests of these bikes!! (but not the prices 😁)
What do u mean? The hondas have been lighter than the ktms since ktm came up with there newest platform. Since then honda has had the lightest bikes in the class or alteast the 250.
The Hondas currently are the lightest bikes wtf are you talking about?
@@jameson4844 Boys, the 2025 Honda 450 specs on Honda's site show 249 lbs full fluids and fuel, the 2024 KTM was weighed by Dirt Rider magazine and showed 240 lb full fluids and fuel. 9 lbs is a significant difference....
ktms are weighed without fluids with all the fluids they are heavier than the crf450
When talking about the rigidity of the bike. What exactly we should expect to fell on the bike with this changes?
more stability and compliance on rough and choppy tracks
Hopefully my favorite bike gets an all new update for 2025 the yz125 but Moore importantly the yz250 2 stroke
Yeah one guy said it already. It looks like an old clumpy ATK. It looks like Bill and Ted came back from their excellent adventure and bought Michael J Fox a dirt bike from 1987 instead of a flying skateboard.
I am not having luck finding 2023 honda bikes in stock at list prices,I will not pay a 600.00 set up add on, plus a 800.00 freight add on. The one dealer that only charges tax-sold out. hope 24 is better
Still cable clutch on the 250 😢
250 Works Edition has the hydro clutch!
Stiffer frame doesn’t sound great for the average punter
Sick!
How much slower can we expect the 25 bikes to be (like the new kx), because of the new sound regulations?
Aftermarket exhaust is a must.
Badass! 💯❤️
Seems all manufacturers are ruining their bikes with the shrouds they are designing these days.
Usually, when I see the next generation of Hondas I think "Wow that's a great-looking bike". The 2025 model doesn't do it for me this time. I just can't say I like the radiator shrouds and the ever-shrinking side number plates. Even where the seat meets the fuel tank looks clunky to me. Not a fan.
I don't like four strokes, but that is one beautiful bike.
Nice show but please work a bit on your audio. Was painful to listen to.
Love it, but a bit of a questionmark that Honda is going to discontinue gas driven motocross bikes in 2030-2035? I hope not. Electric has its place, but it wont replace the true combustion.
I wish Honda, Yamaha and Kawasaki would make a 350. 450s are just to much to handle anymore. I'm just being realistic with my skill level. Just not fun to ride for me. Went back to a 250 2 stroke
And yet no phone mapping app, Honda are still living in the dark ages, Yamaha have it nailed on this and at least Kawasaki are giving it a shot
I have a '22 and a '23 and have never thought I needed it. I have a YZ450 too and although I do mess with the app, it's not needed.
if the stock ECU has fueling issues, you can't fix it with these cheesy little apps. they're not real EFI tuning tools in the way you might think. Sure, you can mellow out the power a bit, but you aren't going to do much more than that with them.
They aren't full on gimmicks, but they aren't that useful either.
what would truly be awesome is these shitty fucking corpos would just give us open source software (or just offer the unlocked software themselves) for the ECU's so we could do what the hell we want to with these things we paid for.
I don't need Honda or Yamaha to keep me from myself. I'm a big fuckin boy here...and it's 2024....people know how to use computers. I should be able to completely remap the stock ECU any way I see fit. if I fuck my bike up..that's on me... I'm sick of this gatekept tech. It's my god damn "right to repair".
Just bought the new CUO connectivity unit for my 2023 KTM SX-F 350! Honda is the only one (Suzuki doesn't count LOL) left!!! I cannot wait to tame the engine braking and increase throttle response with the swipe of a finger!
Are these bikes made in Japan?
Many Japanese bikes are made outside of Japan now. It’s sad
In Southeast Asia
those shrouds gave me the same reaction as I got to yamahas front fenders last year...:(
the shrouds look good graphics suck but if you get some retro graphics it will look so good
best hrc2025
Can you slide a 500 motor in there? !
No
Got rid of my 2023 because it was to ridged and suspension was to harsh. Only had 23 hours on it. So you made it more ridged with stiffer suspension. What else do you expect Jeff and Hunter to say you pay them millions a year to ride Honda.
Jeff and Hunter
The reason the 2023 felt so stiff wasnt cause of the suspension, it was actually the chassis design, honda has had way softer suspension then yamaha yet they feel more plush which = chassis design.
When you say it was to ridged, what exactly are you talking? what do you feel riding the bike?
You do realize you can soften suspension right?
I find it hard to believe amateur riders are feeling the flex in the chassis
butiful bike cros
HONDA BRING BACK 2 STROKES
Where is the 350? Missing the boat ... imo.
Giving me atk vibes
Honda: "We want to return to the 80s"
Also Honda: "We will never make another 2 stroke again even though everyone loved them in the 80s are used Hondas from the 80s are going for huge money restored."
Clown world. Honda listens to their customers in every aspect except with dirt bikes. Just give us a 2 stroke.
What about a 350 version?
"Smoothed things out" that worries me. The Japan 450s are getting flat out weak for a 450 as they keep trying to smooth them out. Hope the front end is not so twitchy. Like riding on a knife edge.
the 19-24 crf450r is a rocket off the bottom and so is the yamahas what jap bike are you talking about obviously suzuki is outdated the kawasaki has been said to be a little lethargic but those are the only 2 brands that could be called weak off the bottom
60 HP is weak? lmao Seems people try to tame the YZ down, and I haven't seen anyone complain about the CRF engine. Kawi has some kind of restrictor in the airbox, pull that and it gets better. Exhaust is better still. And anyone who races is going to flash the ECU or get a Vortex anyway so it's all moot. Suzuki has been the same for how many years, and Kenny shows it can still run with new bikes.
Bummed they didn’t throw on the showa steering stabilizer. Jett and Hunter run it and HRC hides it 😂 bike has head shake problems cmon Honda. I absolutely loved my new 250 but it was lacking in stability
yeah, shrouds doesnt look good. 2017 - 2020 look incredibly good
Too much red, ugly shrouds. Surely there is a cost effective way of making the muffler a bit more trick looking?
Nice nice 👍
🔥🔥🔥
TC is a super dude
but the manufacturers need to get it right every year they have had 24 years to develop the four strokes there is no excuse the bikes should be totally dialed in with works parts no excuses
for how much a new CRF costs the bikes should be perfect this issue of suspension issues and whatever
if you cant put good forks or shock then change brand show kyb ohlins
these [eople talk of too stiff frame your kidding-the frame should be stiff and the forks/shock should comply
and while im at it I probably never will buy a honda again they use to be industry leader now they get 5th in the 450 shootout
like i said for the price the bikes should bee WORKS i dont want to buy a 2025 model and find out it gets headshake or has a poor airbox design or element the CRs have been a race bike since the 70s it should be perfect or near perfect no excuse
triumph just in 1 year have a good model i notice the crf cylinder is like the triumph or vice versa but come on folks $11 grand for a dirt bike is ROBBERY
so for all the test riders year after year working with the teams and design engineers and they design frames that give headshake over rough track hey something does not jive with me on all this development stuff is it just me or do i smell fish oil in the forks
Linda......
The front number plate loop looks ridiculous! It looks unfinished and loose. Trying to make the bike look nostalgic, but looks mismatched and awkward…and I’m a Honda owner and fan 👎🏼
So your taking your wife essentially to work for your anniversary, lucky gal !
It kills me that they test these bikes and try to make them better on supercross tracks
that crf logo is the worst thing honda has ever put on a bike
🤘🤘🤘
I had move on from honda. Every single honda from the 89 cr125 to the 08 crf 450 has this head shake twitch. Im done, went to kawi. The honda is too much for the amateur mechanic to tune.
Ugg Lee.
Hopefully, one day soon Honda will become un-woke, take the F out of CR and start making 2 stroke again ... Everyone wants a CR500 ! ! !
Bike looks sexy asf
It looks shit worst looking CRF by far
Where’s the side number plate? Jesus Christ that thing is hideous. The CRF logo looks like a child designed it. Bikes might be good but they don’t look good.
The best looking motocross bike stylishly still remains the outdated and not upgraded Suzuki RMZ.
Wow…new 4 stroke fart machines…so UNexciting!!!
Looks cheap..like a z50 turned into a 450
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I think every ginger owes it too themselves to hop on a dirt bike and see if they have what it takes. Idk I'm starting to see a trend here, you never know...
Not a fan of the look at all myself
I think they actually came out with the ugliest bike since the 2000 rm250… wtf is this thing 😳
Horrible bike, very very ugly.
Ugliest Honda ever in my eyes
As a honda guy..and a vintage fan.. this aint it for me
12 grand for a bike none of us can ride to even half its potential
All new with no changes. Lol
It's ugly
Sorry but the shroud is ugly ! I like the look of last yrs bike better .
BORING !!!!!!!
I’m sooo happy I don’t have to listen to Canard’s preachy little podium speeches any more. Kinda funny how all that prayer to his imaginary man in the sky couldn’t keep him from having a career consisting of a series of terrible wrecks.
What an awful thing to say to a good dude.....bro has a great career and one of the .01% to ever ride a dirtbike....what have you done with your shitty life?
Gross. And I'm a Honda guy