The Try Guys Old Age Makeovers
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The guys get professional makeup to get a taste of what they'll look like when they're 80, and then show their loved ones to gauge their reactions. The final video of a special four-part series exploring old age.
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Maggie + Ariel: “you look so cute!”
Becky: “you look like a horror movie”
I laughed at your comment so much that I used my two accounts to like your comment and now you got 1k likes😂😂😂😂😂🎊🎊🎉🥳🥳🎉🥳🥳
@Kasey what?
Kasey what????
Eugene has left the chat
Becky is such a bitch. I cannot stand her. I love Ariel and i like Zacks girlfriend. But Becky is the worst
Nobody:
Not a soul:
Eugene: *"Because of the war"*
Ali Cat I had a bet with my friend to see if I could find a comment about eugene talking about the war 😂😂😂
Haha.... looks at my dead grandpa
Ali Cat LMAOOOO
Eugene looking through the collective memories of his family tree: so which war do you want to talk about? I have the time a cousin grew legs, then arms, then a new species was born, yes that was humans, they were fighting over a berry
XD
my middle eastern self just shaking my head the whole time lol
Eugene’s dad: wow!
Ned’s wife: wow
Zach’s girlfriend: WOW!
Becky: HAAHAHAHAHA
U LOOK DED HAH!
😂😂😂
becky is my spirit anima XD
XD Keith doesn’t even look that different lol
Becky physically went *NOPE*
Rewatching this in 2022 is very sad. Ariel is the sweetest women in the world she doesn’t deserve what Ned and Alex did.
What happened?!?
Absolutely broke my heart when she said hes gonna be a cute old man in that tone i feel so bad
Yes 😭
@@BugGutzzz same here my heart broke😊
this video has been hard to rewatch because she was really so in love and so sweet 😞 wishing the best for her
2:16 Becky;”you know how many creams I put on him a lot” if he come out wrinkly af, I want my money back” cuts to Keith saying “that’s my Becky”
I feel like Keith didn’t take her comments so well. When she kept laughing
I love how Ariel and Maggie are like "I am going to cry" and Becky's like "I want my money back". Hahahaha
so true
@@minaalessa7171 hate is a strong word just say dislike.I also dislike the way she acts sometimes :/
Guys she’s joking. When Eugene joking similar it’s fanny but Becky is mean and b..c. Why? I love sarcastic humor, she very funny and sweet
@@juliajulls6004 Its okay ,if thats your opinion.If you find her funny and sarcastic than okay.But from my persepctive ,she acts a but rude.(sometimes)Thats why in my previous comment i said sometimes.This is opinion based
Mina Mohammed she has humor just like me, she may insult you but she truly loves you
Keith: “she’ll love me no matter what”
Becky: “it’s like a horror movie”
😂😂😂
Keith: Maybe I think I'll look super hot when I'm old
Becky: You look like you died🤣
I can't breathe 🤣🤣🤣
It’s so funny because out of the three white try guys, I’d say Keith aged the best and Becky had the worst reaction haha 😂
Every other try guy: "DAMN.. I LOOK OLD AF"
Eugene: "mm..mhmmhmmhm..mmm..hmmm..mhmhmmmm..HMMMM..HMHMHMMMHHMMM"
Mhmhmhm
I died at this moment.
I died at this moment.
People.......I think Carolyn Snead died at this moment.
@@Onebluefrogontopofthemoon lol
Becky: you look like a horror movie!
Keith: and I’ll love *_you_* no matter what!
True love
Poppy Kate my favorite part haha
Poor Keith xD I thought he looked ok
And at the end, when Eugene can’t stop laughing and Keith is like “compliments! Give me the compliments!”
Becky roasting Keith and cackling while doing so is a whole ass mood.
I honestly didn’t think he looked that bad. And if Becky continues to make him maintain his skincare regimen, he’ll look better than that.
@@erinmorticia8990 He asked the women what he would look like if he did not maintain his skincare.
Peko Neko relationship goals
True love
We need a sequel where the try wives become old.
Give Becky a taste of her own medicine lmaooo
YES PLEASEEEE
Agreed
God yes! I need this 😩
i dont like becky for some reason-
PLEASEEEEEE
Ned is the granddad that sits in a recliner, listening to old stories about the 60s
Zach is the granddad who teaches you how to fish and cook on a Sunday
Keith is the funny granddad who dances around and plays with the babies while you and your wife have date night
And Eugene is the granddad who sponsors you and your wife's date night, and gives you the keys to his penthouse in downtown Seoul, while he's busy having a business meeting with oil executives down in Dubai.
Why is this so accurate.
@@brittneymosley8320 I know, right?
- "ooh, no, you're scaring me"
- "and I'll love you no matter what"
Becky's reaction is my favourite
yeah, she's adorable! Her reaction was genuine and Keith and Becky seem to be the best friends to each other
I died laughing during her whole reaction 😂
I thought it was pretty shitty tbh
@@deafpunker i don't like becky as much as I like the other try wives. She sometimes seems to be a little mean.
I think Becky and Keith has a good relationship. Their relationship is like a bestfriends relationship? Im 100% youve talked like that to your bestfriends too, just saying
All I can imagine is elderly Eugene drunkenly stumbling out of a gay bar shouting that he used to be a try guy and deserves free cocktails.
Ayyee I'm the 100th like 🎉🎉🎊🎊
because of the war
YES
Diana B i- i see it now
Lol
the ned and ariel saying they will grow old together..... heart breaking. aged like milk
So real..... :((
it made me sad
@@The3pitomeofmusikno longer the best outcome
Eugene: “Asian don’t raisin”.
Zach: “People like raisins”.
Keith, Ned, and Zack: cute grandpas
Eugene: rich sugar daddy
Because of the war
@@gbgol4 stop it I cant
@@gbgol4 LMAOOO it's all because of that damn war
Even as an 80 year old, Eugene still looks gorgeous and rocks the old guy look.
@@alexander.tahtadjian hes 100 something
English Teacher: Why were you late too class Eugene??
Eugene: *The War*
Teacher: why did you not do your homework???
Eugene: *because of the war*
LOL
why were you late to English class lol to*
@@rqckie why were you late to class?**
saying "english class" sounds weird 👹
But it’s not grammatically incorrect plus idk why it sounds weird to you
The amount of love in Ariel's eyes is heartbreaking...
Can we talk about how Becky said,
“Do you have any idea how much cream I put on him? If I walk in there and see him wrinkly as fuck, I 👏🏽 Want 👏🏽 My 👏🏽 Money 👏🏽 Back 👏🏽”
💀
I like how Eugene's relationship with his dad has improved
Pablo Méndez Díaz the way Asian families work is if you look like your dad you are the alpha sibling
Lmao that got me
Especially after what happened. Because of the war.
😭😭😭😭i want a hoodie
but its sold out😭😭😭😭
Sketch Pad Studios I agree
Everyone else:”you look like a cute old man!!!”
Becky:”STOP YOU’RE SCARING ME”
Sheesh!
"And I'll love you no matter what" lmao 😂
fr
H No are you blind? It’s clearly Eugene
she had the best reaction 😂
Ned 2019: My wife
Ned 2022: My consensual work relationship
Maggie and Ariel: I might cry
Becky: Is the only one that cries but because of laughter
Maggie and Ariel: “I’m gonna cry” “it’ll be emotional”
Becky: starts laugh crying
LMFAOO IKR
That’s a mood
i did the same
Why is nobody talking about Eugene's dad roasting him
"You look awful,hahaha"
I’d say Becky’s roasts were so much worse 😂
lol us Koreans get used to those type of roasts from family members at one point or the other
When?
ktdummy same with my family but we’re Vietnamese
His dad said later said that "You look handsome Eugene. The more I see you the more you look great".
I’m literally at that point where when I hear Ned talk about marriage and Ariel, I just wanna yell “Shut up Ned”
Little did we know, Keith was the wife guy all along.
I love the way Ariel's eyes sparkle when she looks at Ned 😭💕
They're so cuuute! 😭
She and Ned are couple's goals ❤️
Alexia Zamora lmao yeah there’s Becky who’s roasting him😂😂😂
@Joe Dick sounds mean but somewhat true
They're a pretty awesome and in love couple :)
So basically we've just established that Eugene will be hot forever
Kasey Is this about the pie video- XD
Yeah haha to bad he's gay tho (unless ur a guy then dream on)
Kasey He made a pie more full of alcohol then blueberries
@Kasey He's actually stated in a video before that he doesn't drink as much as the fans think he does. I think they play it up more for his camera persona.
Jocelyn Anderson *because of the war*
Eugene: I'm not an alcoholic
Without a recipe: Is typing
Now I want to see Matt’s reaction to old Eugene.
Nobody:
Eugene: *CaUsE oF ThE WaR*
i literarlly couldn't stop laughing when he said that
what war ?
@@da_yanti.f.6363 Guess korean War
me too honestly, my parents were in vietnam during *the war* at around my age and immagrated so instead of a party life in the 80's it's more of "bread and poverty"
Johnathan Heath I literally didn’t look at any comments before I typed that one but go off
eugene: sorry i have to break up with you
significant other: why
eugene: because of the war
😂😂
I'm not gonna bring up race but it's because I'm Asian
😂
Please be respectful of Eugene, his family, and the other tens of millions of people who died and were affected by the Korean War. It is a serious and sad matter and we need to be respectful. Many of Eugene's family died in the war and he never got to see them.
@@coldbeef5356 true
"You look like the old man who's trying to protect his house but he's actually dead" I WHEEZED SO HARD
Eugene: is like 110
Also Eugene: Better looking than all the 80 year olds
Lmao Eugene’s just vibing and everyone else is terrified
Endless Wolves
Well, I mean, he _is_ still hot. (For his age)
Everything is cause of the war lol
@@theunicorn1167 Agreed
@@theunicorn1167 yEs
Ned is just going to be that cute old man who feeds birds with his wife in a park near a water fountain.
He’ll either have a lot of grandkids, or none at all and if he does he’s just going to rollerskate with them like all the time
Omg YES 😭😭
Except it’ll be his husband because he’s super gay
@@1a2b3c4d_ But Eugene's the gay one 😒
@@1a2b3c4d_ what? Huh?
Maggie and Ariel: "I might cry."
Becky: *cries from laughing too hard*
bro watching this and seeing how ariel and ned were imagining a future together was just...sad. where did it all go wrong? ned really fooled us huh
the way ned and ariel's eyes shine when they look at each other talking about how they'll live their lives together with their grandbabies and so happy w each????? so precious??????????
its so cute
They are easily the best couple, so attractive and good together.
Right theyre so cute its gonna make me cry
Ariels eyes were literally like. Sparkling
They have the type of relationship most strive to have
Eugene:
“Both my grandfathers died before I was born. Because of the war.”
My dad has to make up for lost time with smiling. Because of the war.”
“I’ve never met my uncles. Because of the war”
*Eugene crackhead laughs*
I DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
K Cram ssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Because of the war XD
Kind of sad really. If Russia and America hadn't had the Cold War, there wouldn't have been the Korean War and Eugene's relatives would not be all...gone.
Belle
They might be alive. Just, in a different part of Korea...
So did his grandparents ×_×
Keith's was absolutely the most uncanny valley, which I think is one of the reasons Becky was so put off. He looks like a drawing that's just sliiiightly off.
“he looks like he smiles a lot!”
“he’s making up for a lot of lost time,, , because of The War”
“oh god...”
IT WASNT JUST ME WHO DIED AT THAT PART 😂
“And I’m not gonna bring up race-But it’s because I’m Asian” Eugene 😂
The Great “Asian don’t raisin”
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Almost every Asian person I’ve ever known has been extremely diligent about the use of sunscreen, and limiting sun exposure as much as possible. That goes a LONG way towards keeping the skin looking good.
Hello eveyone
Anyone has questions about islam or he /she is interested in islam Join us here to open a "respectful" conversation about islam.. Have a nice day 🌿
I'm asian too, and I am racist as ef
I love how everyone's either supportive or emotional and Becky is just having a laughing fit
The try guys and their wives/girlfriend: "we gonna grow old together... Ill love you when you're 85...grandchildrens"
Eugene: "I'm gonna stumble out if a k-barbecue place"
Ned, Keith and Zach: **Has seen their Grandparents and their parents relatives**
Eugene: *...Because of the war.*
I was looking for this comment. (Rewatching try guys during quarantine )
@@ruthcervantess Same im trying to watch all of their videos 😂
I can relate to him
@@haydenhaddock4115 same lol
I know he started off kind of joking, but it actually hits kind of hard. Eugene is not playing.
Ned: *surprised*
Keith: *WOW*
Zach: *HOLY SH-*
Eugene: *satisfied*
True.
Eugene: satisfied
... because of the war
@@gayunicorn2050 can someone please explain this war thing, I'm very confused
Pikachu Girl the fox he couldn't see his other family members because of the war
@@minjixyeji4172 what war?
"The more I look at you the more you look great!" I love Eugene's dad, it seems like they have come a long way 🥲
Ned is such a freaking liar. „We imagine ourselves growing old together.“
Eugene looks like the CEO of some really rich company.
SomeGirlAndHerCat , u read my mind😳😂🤣😭😍
I thought the exact same thing wtf
That drives a Tesla.
Yeah
CRAZY RICH ASIANS
Eugene: My dad has brothers...
But ive never met them.
CaUsE oF tHe WaR
@cffbsjsj I don't know I think it's because he says that alot
@cffbsjsj The Korean war split many families apart. Eugene is of Korean nationality so it's quite possible his father's family was split up between North and South Korea as many families had been.
cffbsjsj it was in their video about them signing their book
@cffbsjsj War is not happy. Its the reason why many men from that period weren't happy. They did the fighting and many families were torn apart. He says he never met his grandfathers because of the war aka they were killed in the war.
Can we talk about how adorable Eugene’s dad is omg I just wanted to give him a hug he was so sweet
when Ariel said she imagined growing old with ned… ah i honestly wanted to cry
no one :
eugene : **BecAuSe oF tHe wAr**
axumnii this, will be a meme.
No one:
Ned: *I'm a ReCEnt DAd*
Damn, makes the whole conversation devastating, but I love dark humor.
Does anyone know what this war joke is about? I know he mentioned it a lot in the recent old age video but I'm not sure what's the context of the joke?:)
@@animemachinex3 basically because almost everything in his life or family's lives was "because of the war", which makes it really funny dark humor.
No one:
Literally no one at all:
Eugene: Because of the war 😂😂😂
Eugene: My grandpas died from the war
The girl:sure
Jordan MB Guys check out my vloggin UA-cam channel 🙏🔥
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Please be respectful of Eugene, his family, and the other tens of millions of people who died and were affected by the war. It is a serious and sad matter and we need to be respectful. Many of Eugene's family died in the war and he never got to see them.
@@coldbeef5356 I meant no disrespect, I was saying that Eugene was actually laughing when he said it. It is a serious topic and I had family who died in it. My apologies for the misunderstanding.
"You look like the old man who's trying to protect his house but he's actually dead" MoNsTeR hOuSe?!?!?!
Ariel deserves better
*When you realize Eugene is 33, but you thought he was like 25*
xX/ VanillaTheFox \Xx wait... Wut? He is 33?!?
xX/ VanillaTheFox \Xx I thought he was like 19
@@Itsgiraffeagain Yeah, O was shocked too XD
@@sketchpadstudios9037 Lol
Also realizing he’s the oldest of the group and the most... you know
Ariel and Maggie : *supports their partners with their unconditional love*
*meanwhile becky* :
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAH
Edit : omg why does my comment have a lot of likes lol
Nixon XD I mean true love in all ways. Very honest lol
Exactly!
I think Keith looked good tho
Nixon I don’t like Becky Keith deserves better tbh
Idk anymore you clearly haven’t seen other videos of them together
I rewatch this series when I feel myself getting to that "what's soap" stage of a depressive episode to remember that taking care of your body is the most important investment you can make for your future
I relate to this so hard as someone with depression
Nobody:
Absolutely nobody at all:
Eugene: Cause you know....the war.
Keith, Ned, and Zack: “I look so wrinkly!”
Eugene: “look at my freckles, I look like Lucy Liu!”
Even as an 80 year old, Eugene still looks gorgeous and rocks the old guy look.
“Hahahaha You look like the man haha who’s trying to protect his house! Hahahaha But he’s dead hahaha he’s actually dead! Hahahaha!”
Oh Becky’s was the best reaction!!
I don't look like, a murderer...
Becky : no! Ghost!
Win Won omg that was so funny!!!!!!! I don’t want you to think I’m creepy but I wish you were watching this with me right now! I can’t stop laughing 😂
@@missladymo my stomach hurts from laughing HHAHAAHAHAH
I think becky was describing the old man from the movie Monster House!
😂😂😂😂😂
watching ned and ariel in this episode makes me sad
Seeing Ariel's reaction after the whole scandal is so much sadder
" and I'm not gonna bring up race, but it is because I'm Asian" 😂😂
Pedro Crane
cUaSe Of tHe WaR
Haha I can relate to him cuz I’m asian too
I’m only half Asian so uhhh what’s gonna happen
lmao i mean you know the saying " asian don't raisin"
@@alzahar6015 bro mood
Even when old, Eugene is still the hottest try guy
... because of the war
Eeeeeh, nope.
OMG I DIED WHEN U SAID BC OF THE WAR 😂
This made me wheeze💀💀
Naj
LMAO
Even as an 80 year old, Eugene still looks gorgeous and rocks the old guy look.
Keith looks like that grandpa that no matter how affectionate he is, you're lowkey scared of him
Ned looks like that grandpa that never leaves the house, he looks scary ngl
Zach looks like a kind grandpa
and Eugene looks like he could be my millionaire sugar daddy
Ariel: **sees a future with Ned for the rest of her life**
Maggie: **sweet cinnamon roll that has a sense of humour but still will live with Zach for the rest of her life**
Becky: **hysterical and roasts the shit outta keith**
Eugene: **thinks about thE wAR**
Becky & Keith = relationship goals, truly XD
Honestly, it's what I imagine the Schuyler sisters to be like
@@drkasdawn for real!
U didn't show Eugene ... BeCaUsE oF tHe WaR
@@archeribull9869 Maggie is Eliza, Ariel is Peggy, and Becky is Angelica 😂🤣
Ariel and Ned are so pure, they're practically Disney protagonists.
They're sooo white
16:01 that part was the cutest 😢
She really looks like a Disney princess too! So pretty and cute.
@@kesm0362 whats wrong with that
I think it's lovely, they are my favourite couple, both are very attractive, fair and loving, and Ariel just shines. There's nothing wrong with being white, and fair skinned, and in nature being white. I'm like that, racism is never good from any angle. I'm proud of my fairness.
When keith said becky wouldn't let him give up just made me cry i hope they stay to with each other they are amazing together
7:35 "we imagine ourselves growing old together" ..welp, kinda ruined that chance buddy-
The fact that Ariel said she wasn’t really surprised at Ned’s look because she has imagined them growing old together...gosh, my heart can’t take it. Such a loving couple.
Awww.
this didn't age well.
@@bottomfeeder7337 ugh ik. So disappointed in him
How stupid do you feel now? I'd be kicking myself. LOL
@@ThisIsNotLukeGodDamn i don’t feel stupid. Ariel’s reaction is genuine, and i still think it’s beautiful to love someone so much that u imagine growing up together with them
Nobody:
Not a soul:
Eugene:
...because of the war...
When was this moment?
l_grim 3:47 4:03 and 6:35
Brandon Chaney What the fuck does that even mean?!! Ugh!!
The way Ariel said "this really isnt that weird for me" and the way she looked into Ned's eyes was just making me want to cry. I love the way they look at each other and love each other.
Bestie, you're not gonna believe this..
@@bosins1012 fvck ned for this. I would absolutely be heartbroken
Becky laughing is the BEST part of the video. X'D
Keith:"Can we make HER look old pls?"
What about Eugene saying because of the war!?
OMG I started laugh crying at work
@@DrickaArouche Why were you watching it at work??
@@mollywinchurst2056 Gotta cherish those lunch breaks
Dricka Arouche Makes sense. I was just being dumb.
Keith: This man is unkillable!
Eugene: because of the war...
12:38 "can we make her look old please?" ...can we have an episode where the Try Sweeties get old too? THAT WOULD BE SO AWESOME!!!! LoL
Ariel’s reaction to Ned was so sweet. Her eyes were exuding love.
Just for him to go and do something so horrible
Ned, Keith, and Zach: **showing their girlfriend, and wives**
Eugene: **Shows his dad**
Family's Impohtant 👌👌👌
Cause of the war...
@@chloemorris1489 omg I'm crying😂😆
haha@@chloemorris1489
I hope Eugene finds a partner whom he can settle down with for good. You deserve to be happy.
50 years from now: "try guys get hip replacements!"
And im still going to be sitting somewhere watching 😂
because of the war
😂 😂 😂
before that, 10 years from now: try guys get colonoscopies, vasectomies, etc.
I'll be 110. If they're still vlogging and I'm still alive, I'll be watching.
Looking back at these try guys videos now... After knowing what happened with Ned and Ariel... Many of these videos are not going to age well.. No pun intended! But this video in particular makes me angry cause Ned showed Ariel this dream of them being together, getting old together and now he cheats on her.. It just boils my blood to look at his fakeness and lies...
I love how Keith is the one who’s stayed the most similar other than maybe, and Becky is the one with the most viscerally negative reaction. Lol
no one:
Absolutely nobody:
not even us:
Eugene : Cause of the war
"Because we're poor..."
Because why the fuck not
Everyone else while reacting: ”oh wow”
”You look like a Cute old man!”
Becky: *Weeze*
“You look like the man who’s tryna protect his house!”
Don’t forget the man is dead 💀
If that's not true love, I don't know what is
...he really does tho...
She came off a bit shallow. Could be the contrast between her and the other try wives
she’s so rude.
Dammit Ned....
Keith: I don’t think I look like a murderer
Becky : NO GHOST
me : lol
Ariel: I’ll love you forever
Maggie: You don’t look that different and I still love you
Becky: *gags* hahahahhahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahahahaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhaah
True love at its finest
I wish they showed matt's reaction
@@aur9035 he wasn't out yet
Okay but why does Eugene look like he’d be a sugar daddy when he gets older
Because of the War
@@arionex omg
He probably will
Carlos J Cintrón Damn it I was gonna say that! 😂
Omg yes
What a surprise! Eugene still lookin hot AF at a 100+ years old🙄🤣
Is it bad i think Zak really suits a clean bald head... i mean I know he's on a hair journey but I kind of want to see him without it hahahah
I thought so too! it actually did look really really good, I was surprised°
but I'm also glad that he did regain his hair since it's such a vulnerability fror him. he deserves to feel comfortable in his own skin first and foremost
I agree! I gasped when I saw that look he looked so hottt
He has a small face and beautiful eyes
"everything in Asian culture, gotta get 100" - Eugene 😂
Serevnity _TY i now understand what he meant by reading this comment xD. Im so slow hahahaha
@@gmarnic16 lol same
Serevnity _TY lol
@Just why? In most Asian cultures people take care of their bodies to reach at least 100 years old.
Just why? But also scoring well on tests
Ariel and Maggie being all cute and sweet AND THEN BECKY IS JUST DYING
honestly Becky is such a mood...I love her
Becky is me
Longevity in a relationship isnt about how long you can look hot, it's about long you can both laugh together. Becky and Keith laughing is so infectious I always wind up laughing too.
07:35 hearing this from him makes me so mad
Ariel: I'm so excited to grow old together
Maggie: I'll love you through the years
Becky: THANKS I HATE IT
Eugene’s dad: the more I look at you the better you look
This is how you know Becky and Keith were meant for each other hahahaha
and hey Keith, she did just call you Clint Eastwood, so that is a really great compliment!
Hey I'm the 1k liker lol
@@xuemeizhou2058 lol and then he said he still looks awful 😂
Eugene: "not an alcoholic"
Also Eugene: "puts alcohol in anything"
TRUE!!!!!!!