Kona Blue, Skinwalker Ranch, and the Curse of Oak Island | Reality Check
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- Ross Coulthart sits down with the people behind the hit History Channel shows "The Curse of Oak Island" and "The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch" to discuss hunting for hidden treasures and investigating everything from Roman artifacts to UAPs.
Ross also answers questions about newly declassified documents related to the Pentagon’s proposed UFO reverse-engineering program KONA BLUE.
#SkinwalkerRanch #OakIsland #UAPs
This week's guests: "The Curse of Oak Island" producers Marty and Rick Lagina, and Skinwalker Ranch owner Brandon Fugal "The Curse of Oak Island;" airs Tuesdays at 9p/8C on the @HISTORY Channel, followed by "Skinwalker Ranch" at 10p/9C.
On "Reality Check," NewsNation contributor Ross Coulthart digs into stories the media is supposedly not meant to tell, taking a fact-based approach to tackle everything from unidentified aerial phenomena (UAPs) to mysteries often missing from the headlines.
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Host: Ross Coulthart
Executive Producer: Andy Gipson
Senior Producers: Sam Adelman, Joe Ward, Emily Lambert
Producer: Lili Koenig
Editor: Allen Keefner
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:30 Oak Island, Nova Scotia: A Center of Mystery and Intrigue
00:06:50 "The Curse of Oak Island" producers on signs of buried treasure
00:16:47 Medieval, Roman era artifacts found: What went on at Oak Island?
00:17:54 Shakespeare manuscripts, Ark of the Covenant
00:22:43 Why is "The Curse of Oak Island" so popular?
00:24:47 Marty Lagina: "Just enough" science to keep going
00:25:57 The global hunt for hidden treasures
00:27:33 Will the Lagina brothers ever stop searching Oak Island?
00:32:53 What is Skinwalker Ranch? Alleged paranormal hotspot
00:37:05 Brandon Fugal, Skinwalker Ranch owner
00:39:22 How Skinwalker Ranch investigations work
00:42:59 Fugal recounts seeing a flying saucer above Skinwalker Ranch
00:47:24 "The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch" captures UAPs, UFOs
00:50:03 Fugal on proving nonbelievers wrong
00:52:00 Unexplained illnesses after digging on Skinwalker Ranch
00:55:27 Is there a non-human entity at Skinwalker Ranch?
00:59:48 Faith and fantasy: Religion and paranormal phenomena
01:08:35 Is the government hiding something on UFOs?
01:11:09 Government vs. private sector on paranormal activity
01:21:30 Ross answers your questions
Someone give Ross Coulthart a Nobel prize for journalism. This is quite honestly the only man who is worth listening to in news. PERIOD.
Hear hear. Seriously. I read "In Plain Sight" and it changed my life completely.
I think it the pulitzer prize he should have: but only if this thing turns out to be true
No, he deserves something else, actually an Oscar.
@@Dina_tankar_mina_ord I mean if you need more evidence than the pentagon releasing actual footage of unexplained craft, countless eye witnesses from the air force and navy (some of whom have also shared video evidence), Department of Defense contractors stating that there are crash retrieval programs that have run for decades, the government lying at every turn regarding UFO cases, etc., then I don't know what to tell you. There is more credible evidence for UFOs and ET's presence than for most diet plans that people try out. Its absurd that people are waiting for a definitive answer from the people who have been lying to them for decades in order to be convinced. The honest reason why this hasn't been released, is probably because most people aren't ready to hear that the government has been lying to them since before their grandparents were born.
Yes..in fiction...you really should get out more.
Ross is a pure gem and true journalist. This show was a good idea, News Nation. I hope it’s getting lots of views
Ross - when disclosure finally happens, I hope you win a Nobel prize for being the first and best.
He wasn’t the first tho, that goes to George Knapp
Disclosure of what?
Ross Coulthart you are the man ! Thanks for your contribution to UFO investigation !!!
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@1catmac you obviously dont understand the dynamic of the situation if you think this is profit motivated.
Agreed 💯🎉. Intellectual
Ross is the man
Glad to rediscovered that the world is as fascinating and mysterious as I used to think as a child.
@cspicer4611
You don't need these fantastic frauds to give you the wonder of a child, Chemistry, DNA, life spread by comets, non-terrestrial visitors and our own 'little people'.
Who needs fake treasure and skin-walkers?
BTW, I've skin-walked myself, it's very personal but a friend and I both became cougars and ran with their grace on all 4s up a steep canyon through the forest together.
Go experience it yourself, not pretend like these fools.
Well said.
I’m happy for you and agree! Except, the world is likely even more intriguing and mysterious than we humans think. Examples include the mysteries of “dark matter” and “dark energy,” as well as the singularity (where our understanding of physics break down) ‘inside’ of black holes….. Science leads to discovery and more wonder of our natural world and the universe itself. :)
not to mention wormholes,vortex, etc❤
@@anonymouscontributor2376 Well said!, you sound like some who keeps their eyes and mind open.
I've been privileged to experience unusual and beautiful interactions with nature and her creations.
I'm currently watching crop circles enthusiastically (I have a theory). And I really would like more scientific study of the phenomenon called 'Steve' in the Ontario{?} area, A stream of energetic particle that flashes and cavorts along with the Aurora Borialis, but is completely different. You should search You Tube for it.
Brandon Fugal and the researchers at Skinwalker Ranch are collecting hard data on these phenomenon. The fact that Brandon Fugal is allowing the public insight into this research shows the exceptional quality of this man. He stands far above any critics, in my opinion.
Thankyou Ross for another great interview!
Look up...."The Squatter Man"....then go back to the episode with the "blob".
I'd love to see the hard data though. Remember this ranch was scientifically investigated by scientists before, nothing ever came of it.
@@hiwall4883Why has that data been hidden by the federal gov't?
HAHAHAHA Good one, that was hilarious
@@hiwall4883how do you know nothing came of it?
We need more journalists like yourself sir. Your show is among my top 5 favorite to watch. Great interviews with Rick, Marty and Brandon.
Ross is a Hero and a living legend, he will be in the history pages for Millenia
We finally have a real journalist lawyer who is not in the pocket of the pentagon. Good show Ross.
Don't be naive
He's in his own pocket
No he is in the pocket of the media company that makes both skinwalker ranch and oak island. That is why he is basically doing publicity work to promote these shows.
Thank you Ross Coulthart for another great episode of Reality Check!! And thank you to News Nation for allowing Ross a platform to expose UAP!!!
I rarely give compliments to reporters, so here we go,
Thank you to Ross Coulthart for bringing us closer to reality.
And thank you to Brandon Fugal for being a sport, and to his brilliant team on skindwalker ranch for being wise enough to public continue the investigation and further disclosure.
Thank you Brandon. Don’t pay attention to the doubters or debunkers that try to drag everyone down. All reasonable people have seen the same things and evidence that you have and believe something is there! Thanks again Brandon for bringing us along.
Look up "The Squatter Man"....then go back to the episode with the "blob".....tell me that isnt the same thing the ancients saw in the sky. ANOMALY Here is a UA-cam vid "CAUGHT ON CAMERA | The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch (S4, E3) "The Blob".
If you look at their comment history you can tell that a lot of them are disinformation agents
Ross another brilliant episode. The conversation with Brandon Fugal was outstanding. The evidence is undeniable at Skinwalker Ranch.
Ross Coulthart is a refreshing addition to US journalism.
One of the best interviews yet. It doesn't get more credible than Brandon fugal. Thank you!!!
MY FAVORITE TOPIC WITH THE ONE AND ONLY MR.ROSS COULTHART👽🛸👽
Thank you Ross and Brandon for today’s episode was the best one ever. I take my hat off to both of you for putting yourselves out there and lots of criticism and ridicule. Those people just walk around with their eyes closed and ears closed and encourage you to keep on doing what you’re doing, gentlemen,
Regards Craig Thomson
this brandon guy is simply a liar ;)
Challenge for any ufo skeptic, next time your driving around or taking a hike and see a plane, try to pull your phone out and capture a good video. It doesnt turn out great, so try to then imagine trying to capture a video of a object that you observe for a brief moment only.
We are not skeptical of ufo
We are skeptical of ufo grifters
@@kms08711No one here is a grifter.
The multiple witness incidents are the ones that made me believe without doubt. When you have countries creating memorial coins celebrating these multiple witness events. Police reports written about said events, with an officer being one of the witnesses of an event. That's what set the stage for me. Nowadays to deny there's something there, makes you the nutcase if you ask me.
Haha! There is nothing particularly difficult about that. There are 1,000’s of such videos on UA-cam - people with phones taking video of planes flying overhead. Stealth bombers, Blue Angels, mishaps etc.
All perfectly clear.
Challenge for any UFO believer - provide any decent evidence.
“Airplane flying overhead”
UA-cam from 11 years ago
It’s really not difficult to video a plane, clearly.
Ross always asks the best questions on the UFO topic, he's so damn good at this. The Fugal interview was awesome!
Stay healthy Ross!! And keep your loved ones safe, the world needs you mate!! I remember when people would ask you what they could do to help you, and you’d say how you wished a news media outlet would offer to hire you to investigate this subject…🥹looks like your hard work paid off👊🏽🥳
And congrats to NewsNation for having the nerves to get you on board. amazing work👌🏽
Ross, your interview with Brandon Fugal was great. Please have him again on the show.
Bigelow ran a competition to write about Consciousness. The winner was Jeffrey Mishlove (77yrs). He would be worth interviewing...as soon as possible. He's been interviewing people on the leading edge of the paranormal since the 1990's starting on PBS 'Thinking Allowed'..
I think Mishlove started interviewing earlier than the 90s. I think he’s been interviewing since the 70s.
Thank You Ross Coulthart and Thank You Brandon Fugal, for this Great Episode.
This was a great interview session. Brandon Fugal is very well spoken and level headed.
This ranch was subject to investigation for excess radiation occurring from the atomic bomb tests as a downwind target?
I sure hope they find that treasure. Not just for them, their team, and those who searched and died before, but for history. I've been a fan of the show since the beginning. The history that's discovered by way of stories, research, and artifacts is what I enjoy the most.
uumm.... you do realise those shows are "no payoff" reality TV shows, right?? these shows are designed and created to perpetuate their existence, to show no real substance with a never ending plotline... come-on you're a grownup, use your head man
@CementRoots , that's your opinion. I like the show as described in my comment. And that's it. If you don't like it or shows like it, don't watch.
Do some research on Oak Island. There's very likely no treasure. There are interesting archeological things from the past. But, the story about the treasure is unfortunately all "stories" that have no real physical evidence. Even in this interview they say multiple times that they can't prove there's any treasure, and that they only heard about the evidence from other people.
I'm from NS and never heard of Oak Island. But I'm booking a trip there asap lol
@@BrenBertozziOk, so someone built an extremely complex system of flood channels which go down for over 50 meters into the ground, all that hundreds of years ago, and all that FOR NOTHING? Just for fun? Let's be real, man. These are not props for a TV show, all these things are REAL.
I absolutely love the deep bond and profound respect that the Lagina brothers have for each other. Watching them interact is like listening to twins react to each other. So much so that Ross was getting runover by their respect for one another and then respect for Ross! Great people, all 3. Loved it! I feel there definitely is/was something of great importance on the island that may be more valuable than just gold. However, is it still there!? We shall see. Thanks Ross for a great interview with the Laginas. Been watching from day 1.
I watch NewNation for Ross Coulthart and their UAP coverage. Thanks for the great work Ross!
Skinwalker Ranch is a great show
It is a scientific investigation that is packaged as a show for today's consumers. Consider ourselves lucky - Bigelow and the Gov-Military complex poured a lot of money and time into the same type of investigation. None of that is available for the general public... so again - consider ourselves lucky (Thanks Brandon).
Pretty expansive “Reality Check” this time Ross.
Great show!
I've been watching every episode of Skin Walker Ranch! My dad and I enjoy it every week and have wonderful discussions afterwards!! Thank you also for the insightful input around "disclosure"
Skinwalker ranch is a hoax. Kudos to those that manufactured such a monetarily successful story. They made millions.
You are being scammed
, if you want more go buy lue elizondoe's upcoming book
This peoperty loses money, not makes it. History channels contract is to pay for the experiments. The only paid people by the History Channel are Travis Taylor and the film crew. Fogul pays the ranch staff out of his own pocket. He makes BILLIONS of dollars in commercial real estate and the headache and stigma skinwalker ranch provides him far outweigh any monetary potential for a man with Fogul's income. It is a passion for him.
But sure, your theories do make more sense now that i think about it. The largest collaborative conspiracy of our time spanning nearly 30 years involving black programs, the senate majority leader, career intel officials, the #3 guy in charge at the pentagon (from one of our nations most prominent wealthy families), multiple congresssional hearings, and $10s of millions of dollars in government funding so Elizondo can make $500k after taxes selling books and Fogul can get a history channel show.
@@kms08711There's no point trying point out the errors of the debunkers, for some odd unknown reason, they cannot accept the reality of high strangeness
@@Bone89Skinwalker Ranch is not a hoax and no one has made millions from it. The phenomenon there is very real and has been happening for millennia.
I am glad brandon went public with the ranch
Or did the ranch get public 😂
Ross is my favorite interviewer of all time. Now I have to figure out how to watch these History channel shows without a TV 😅
Try Skinwalker Ranch Insider you can watch the cameras on the Ranch!
Another brilliant show from The Champion 🏆 Mr Ross Coulthart!! Thank you for your no nonsense and forthright work Ross. Bravo!! I applaud thee 👏🏽
And this why your job is so important. Awesome show
Brandon is like david grusch, They're just real and honest.
OMG WOW That was the BEST interview on this topic ive heard to date...Brandon just told the whole world THE TRUTH.Thanks Ross and News Nation. Brandon Fugal is 100% genuine i believe every word he says. I hope we can change this world into a better place
I hope so too
I believe
Ross Coulthart is the only journalist that I completely trust. I'm grateful that he has a platform here and I look forward to seeing much more of this material. Well done!!
I really like Brandon Fugal and admire his pursuit into the Skinwalker Ranch phenomenon. I wish him well and look forward to this season's episodes. I don't know why it's not on the 10 o'clock news ♥🇬🇧
Ross, this interview with Brandon Fugal is packed with excellent information. Fugal went from debunker to full on supporter of the UAP reality based on first hand experience. Mr Fugal is a very good communicator.
Ross and Brandon are two of my favourite men. Thank you. ❤️
Thanks Ross, for continuing to lean into this multi-faceted subject, and to NN for allowing Ross to cover it (when other media inexplicably turn a blind eye). Us viewers win as a result of your tenacity. Good on ya's! 🏆
The most polite journalist have done it again. Thank you mr Coulthart , youre an example for all of us ! 💪
Can't thank Ross enough man, restored my hope in journalism and people. We love you from new Zealand man!
A special congratulations to the History Channel for bringing the world these two respected documentaries. Thank you History Channel. Keep it up!
Kudos Ross and Brandon, you knocked it out of the park. I love that Brandon is clear that he's a steward of the property, I'm thankful it's in his hands considering the energies he's dealing with there. Please do a deeper dive with him Ross. He gave us so much in this interview though, profound. I can't thank you enough Ross for all you're doing to bring the truth forward. 🙏💓
Don’t ever quit Ross!!❤️
Aliens and oak island are the combination I’ve always been hoping for!
Well someone should compare that stone and what markings were on craft that Daniel Sheehan described.
2 of my all time favourite tv shows i've watched every single episode of both of them love both oak island & Skin walker ranch brilliant tv i get emotional watching them both i hope they find both the treasures and the answers 100%
One of the best and most informative interviews (Fugal) ever on this topic. Sometimes shooting all those rockets seems rather amateurish but let’s let Fugal’s team do what they think best. Something is going on there.
Sometimes 'simple' is the best. I think our government has shown what 'expensive' brings in many cases ... an excuse for more expensive experiments.
I had a no interest in skinwalker ranch due to the absolute drama from tv. Ross has given credit to this ranch. So thank you for putting some truth behind it.
There is nothing at all dramatized on the Skinwalker Ranch docuseries. What you see is all entirely authentic. The ranch produces enough drama as it is without a need to create more!
Season 1 is pretty crap. Even the cast admit they didn't know what they were doing. But Season 2 onwards is gold dust.
Excellent interview with Brandon..this is how Disclosure unfolds...There are more experiencers than any Govt or their acolytes will ever know...
Brandon Fugal...thank u for taking over SWR and getting things done!!! You're awesome!
Ross' voice has a calming effect on me...I don't know why. It feels like he knows what he is talking about😊
Many of us, especially as kids, loved the idea of searching for hidden treasure. Mysteries are something that pique the human imagination and curiosity.
A fab episode Ross! I think that yourself, Richard Dolan and George Knapp are 3 of the finest voices in regards to the phenomenon 🙏🏻
Legends and myths have grains of truths in them. Ross, we appreciate your willingness to dive into these topics.
Brandon, you need to invite Ross to the ranch and see if the phenomena reacts to him and puts on a display for him.
That's a great idea. I hope Ross gets his Experience, and that it's positive - he deserves it! Brandon said it true, it does change you. After you see an authentic UAP you can't deny it's real and that we're not alone. I've seen two that defied physics. It's an incredible experience.
Best epsiode of Reality Check yet! Fantastic to see Brandon Fugal and even better the Q & A at the end with Ross's genuine feedback. Keep up the great work Ross and News Nation!
My hat is off to Brandon... He is putting himself in the cross hairs of the government 💯%. Love and peace everyone it doesn't cost anything ❤✌️
Another BELTER of a UAP podcast!
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Thank you ROSS and to your incredible guests!! 🙏💖🙏
Thank you for airing this, it’s time the public knows the truth.
this was an incredible interview with Brandon Fugal! keep up the great work guys and lets figing go Ross!
People criticizing oak island dont understood how whatevern was hidden. The extent of the booby traps. Mind blowing. Actually scary the amount of effort. Its not just a bunch of gold.
It sounds great except there is no evidence there was a booby trap. I like the show too, but watch the why files episode on this.
@@BrenBertozzi That's why like Marty, I'm centering my continued interest around the high gold count in the water. I wish I could find more information about the figures they've been given and 1) whether they actually indicate a sizable accumulation of precious metals *is* there or merely that it *was* there at some point in the past, and 2) just how much booty we're talking about.
these guys literally made millions digging holes with no evidence that anything exists down below
@oz_bogan
The show is like this show, devoid of facts. Just click bait to keep the fools tuning in.
@@blueabattoiruh oh, CIA forgot to turn off their YT bots
Way to go man! This content is extremely important and relevant to the times at hand. Come on people! Let us demand the government to tell us what's going on for God's sake!! Enough already!! Thank you for what you do and don't stop!
Absolutely top-notch show! Thank you Ross and newsnation. Marty and Rick lagina are trying to answer the questions I had after reading that same article in reader's digest when it was re-ran in the 80s.
Also I have to always thank Ross , you have done so much to help us people get to the bottom of this ufo,uap reality. Thank you Ross keep the pressure on!
I Hope you yourself see this somehow Mr Coulthart, Thankyou for your professionalism in this matter, and Thankyou News Nation for giving him the platform to exercise his talent and cover such topics without ridicule.
Ross & Brandon are 2 of my most favorite people connected to the UFO phenomenon. Awesome to hear them have such a great conversation.
Great interviews Ross. Superb. Keep up the great work.
Ross and all the guests of today's show are role models in the pursuit of honest and inspiring scientific/ intellectual work. Thank you!
Missing Enigma...I have been here from the beginning and I gotta say, 👏. You went from Podcaster to a heck of a reporter , n you've become a darn good investigator as well.💯🙌
Ross, you will go down in history as one of the most important journalists who ever lived.
Episode was full of interesting people and subjects. Love your ways Mr. Ross !
Thanks for another brilliant show Ross and team. Brandon is always a very interesting person to hear from and I look forward to seeing more of the type of content.
Excellent interviews. Brandon, you're amazing. Thank you for sharing the phenomenon with the public! We appreciate you, Ross. Don't let the debunkers get you down, and THANK YOU for so bluntly stating why we owe these Whistleblowers respect and grace. If you need to be mad, be mad at the right people - those in the Pentagon and private aerospace sector that is keeping this information from the world. They are the ones that deserve our ire and demands, not the people who are risking everything by coming forward. The goal of a disinfo campaign in the UAP community is to create chaos and infighting - we won't let them win, and we will keep fighting for the truth of our reality.
If you're watching Curse of Oak Island it helps to be interested in archeology and true history being on Earth I love it
I've been a treasure hunter for about 4 decades and can attest that treasure stories do come true. For me, I made an original archaeological discovery that will impact North America, so keep searching!
No you didn’t.
Keep at it Ross! Thank you!
I've been following the Oak Island show since episode 1. Charles Barkhouse gave me a tour of the island in summer 2019 which was completely fascinating and really helped me understand the layout better.
I completely agree with the sentiment that the show is appealing because unlike a lot of other "reality shows" it is not pre-prepped and guided by a script. There are no phony character conflict plots, no resource meddling, and no dishonest editing. It is driven by what is found, and what they are doing to find more.
And to me, it's not about treasure, it's about a lost history. I think what Rick and Marty are doing is a substantial gift to history, and I can only hope and pray that the Canadian government and other groups keep over ambitious policies and red tape and surprise ownership claims out of Rick and Marty's way.
This show is a gem. Thanks
One video on the Skinwalker Ranch showed that was very 'striking' to me, and that was the high activity inside of the house on the ranch. It's like another portal or magnetic field, and the guys were freaking the energy was strong. I'd love to explore it, and wish they would bring a psychic medium to investigate it.
Coulthart + Fugal = Awesome!!! 👍😊👊💥
I haven’t seen Brandon Fugel be so open and honest about this topic. This interview has changed my opinion about Brandon and his top notch experts and hopefully he is not being pressured behind the scenes to not reveal his factual data. Thanks Ross for your time and effort in this amazing new realm of discovery.
Main stream media still leaves it out of nightly news ect.
Ross, excellent episode. Thank you for being the trusted journalist on these extraordinary topics.
You are the man! Keep this up! We are thirsty for knowing the truth of this reality we live in. I think it's not the reality people would choose with all it's implications, but im tired of living and following lies of thousands of years of bias
Marcus Aurelius has a quote that says (roughly), “It’s is better to live in the truth, wherever the chips may lay, than to live in a comforting lie.” I have always appreciated this sentiment.
Thank you, for exposing this to the world.
Great interviews Ross, refreshing to see decent and informed questions. I suspect your guests appreciate it. Good job.
GODSPEED, AND PROTECT THESE MEN!
Been waiting for a new reality check. Thank you Ross and guest.
Ross, thanks so much for the interviews with the Lagina's and with Brandon Fugal. Fascinating subject matters!
I feel the general public and the private sectors are going to make a great impact in embarrassing the Government and the so called intelligent sectors with the truth.
Keep up the good work in bringing us the truth.
Congratulations on your reporting. This is a very important subject and you are bringing it to light with first class speakers, interviews and in a most serious and professional manner. Thank you!
Thanks Ross for just another great interview with the present owner of Skinwalker ranch. I have no doubt that by pushing the UAP-topic forward as you have done till now and continue to do, the truth will prevail in the end. I am a big believer in stopping to look for government admittance (‘dear taxpayer, nothing to see here, move on’), ignore the government’s assessment of this phenomenon (they already know a lot more than that they are admitting), and agree ‘as people’ on the fact that UAP’s are real, they are here and we fund our private money to privately investigate what governments all over the world have been doing for decades without telling us - the taxpayers - about it. Let’s get on even ground!!
What a Great Show Ross 👍👍👍👍👍
CONGRATULATIONS BRANDON & THANKS YOU FOR SHARING!
Excellent podcast Ross - watching and supporting you from across the pond 🇬🇧 🙏✨️Nameste
Thanks Ross and Brandon. Really looking forward to the season.
Such a terrific interview re Skinwalker Ranch! Hope we see you Ross in one of the ‘episodes’!
Great show, kudos to Brandon and Skinwalker!
Thank you for being tenacious with topics that the legendary media doesn’t want to cover. Great work!
Rosss great piece gotta interview Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp they’ve been very silent
He has interviewed them several times and been on other shows with them.
@@bleedingreenbetty9795 yeah I know that lol but if u have been following Jeremy and George I’m sure there absence has also allowed them to compile evidence maybe even stuff Ross doesn’t know about ( assuming they don’t talk everyday and only give each other info when doing a report ).
@@garrettholloway7812they have gone a bit quiet, lately. But I’ve seen Jeremy here and there speaking. The one who has gone completely quiet is Lue Elizondo.
Jeremy and George’s UA-cam series, Weaponized, concluded its season 1 a few weeks back. I’m sure they are very busy and active during this break. They are allowed an absence now and again. They were putting out hour-long segments for months on end, every week 😜