now THIS is a real lore friendly campaign. none of this defending settlements shit, just a big green boss and his big green mob rolling around the place smashing stuff and snatching shinies. beautiful.
@@ahmadtarek7763 wow that's actually a good idea, maybe a mix of a horde / settlement faction that combines the best of both, not forcing you to play in a certain way but instead gives you freedom to say "fuck occupying shit, more armies instead"
@@ahmadtarek7763 probably because hordes kinda suck right now, the only good hordes are the semi-horde ones that can also occupy settlements, such as vampire coast.
@@sympunny8636 it's true that hordes suck in warhammer but that wasn't always the case. Back in Attila the hordes were extremely strong and fun to play as and against, hopefully with warhammer 3 on the way they revamp the horde mechanics.
Its about the different Perspectives, so at first he meant its good enough to get out there and break the siege, in the battle he meant the army is not good enough to just rush at them or let them come and finish them off, he needed to harass them with grom and the hag, with a doomstack he could just let them come and beat them without casulties.
I think it was more like: "Luckily this army is pretty strong, so we can actually try to break out and do something." "But the composition isn't all that great."
@@joeosthoff1109 Nah, I think he just glanced over the units and saw some good units, but was more focused on the situation, I highly doubt there's anything more to it cuz it really isn't a good army. No Greenskin army is strong enough to get out of that by fighting anyway.
"Orkses is never defeated in battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!"
When that -25% movement range event arbitrarily hit you, I was reminded of all the cheats the AI tries to throw at the player. It's always timed "perfectly" too: Just about to finish off an enemy? They get confederated by someone you're not at war with. Just about to conquer the last settlement to complete a province, or perhaps use as a sack settlement for leveling? Your ally, or non-aggression cohort takes it instead; and they're not the same race so you can't confederate them. Just about to catch an army that's been running away from you? Movement penalties out of nowhere. Almost have public order under control? Unhappy populace event for no reason.
funny that you meantioned that, beacuse i got that but the game like went "you can either have public order which you need, or how about CASH?" lets just say, there are alot of rebellions i need to handle every turn :)
confederations happen because when you are close to eliminating a faction, they are significantly weakened thus easier to confederate by the AI so not really all that random
What a lot of people don't understand is that the AI, well at least in the grand campaign map, have machine learning capabilities. If you defeat a much larger army? They'll bring more elite troops. You hold a city without losing it ever? They'll bring more then 3 armies to deal with it. They lost to an ambush in a particular area? It'll now avoid said area or at least check for ambushes. There's other things too. Now, is this some technology that continues to grow? No. From what I've seen at least, it's only for the campaign you're currently on. It's similar to procedural generation and how that works, but it's more with the AI and what it does/thinks. I mean, just think about it. How would you even randomize a vast amount of AI factions to do similar to what the player does? There's some hardcode still so obviously it's not going to be smart. But either way, it does very much so have machine learning capability.
I mean, the rest of the campaign was just run run run, remember, he's trying to fix this guy's campaign, it was mainly for that person instead of himself.
This needs to be turned into a live stream. Would be interesting to see if you could survive long enough to turn things around. That way you don't feel rushed to get anything done like you do in your daily videos.
Chris The way he plays them would be tough to watch I think, and quite a slog for him with a live audience to entertain and deal with ‘do this’ or ‘do that’. He also doesn’t win first time every time. Lots of reloading and trying different things, reloading poor engagements, refighting engagements for more favourable results.
Me seeing the thumbnail: "Oh that empire stack seems to be in quite the pickle, this might be one of the worse disasters I've seen." Me after seeing and hearing that it's actually a Broken Axe disaster: "we're playing as the wHAT?!?!"
But they usually don't survive the lustria battle royal, having 500 legendary lords in one place usually means minor factions don't stand a chance. I just looked it up and here is a list of LLs in Lustria: Ikit claw Skrolk Teclis Luther harkon Tehenuhuain Gor rok Nakai Markus wulfhart Lokhir fellheart Khalida Plus I heard rumors(could very well be false) that the white dwarf will be moved to command the spine of sotek.
@@ahmadtarek7763 If there's a rework of the stunties, they absolutely need the runes and some runic golems/better artillery. Lorewise their gunnery is the better of the whole world, and right now the empire ones are just so much better 'tis a grudge
I like this series, simply because some scenarios he was given are so absurd so i cant escape the thought that people who send their campaigns did it on purpose! :D
I've only just discovered his channel - you know what that particular episode was called? Gonna get to it sooner or later but I'm intrigued now after reading your comment.
I loved his "Escape The Green Tide or Die" one. 3 episodes of Legend abandoning his capital, going to the desert as the Dwarves, lying, killing, and conquering tons of land before slowly pushing up and taking Karak Eight Peaks.
While watching the video I could only think of one thing. My poor man Settra minding his own business until an obesed gobo run through his backyard bringing armagedon and judgement day.
Some people actually advocate that unironically. At this point if I mod the game, I rather skip Order faction only mods, like Empire heroes, to not add to the unbalance. At this point, the entire 'Order united' when Chaos comes should just be removed as it is. High Elves/Dark Elves and Dwarf/Greenskins finally seem sorta balanced. Even the Empire seems to lose to Vampires sometimes. Although Empire and Dwarf will still win lategame - but at least now they can get rekt early game fairly easily. The problem again is Bretonnia. Surrounded by Ulthuan and the Empire. - And both of those giants will declare war if somebody messes too hard with Bretonnia. With a weak as fuck Norsca to the north, Wood Elves who barely do anything, nonexistent Beastmen, a weak Clan Skryre and a eunuch VCoast to the south. And easy confeds usually resulting in them having the Southlands for free. Louen - with 4 settlements, was rank 3 in my last game. Outclassing Tyrion with entire Ulthuan under his belt. Seriously, wtf kind of balance is that? Then ofc he got Southlands for free because Repanse took it. Because Tomb Kings are also mostly worthless as an AI faction and cant stand up to any Order race. Grom isnt even there at Bretonnia on ME, and the 2 Vcounts cant do crap to stop them, nor can Norsca. Bretonnia itself is in a good spot if a player plays it. But as AI, their autoresolve can beat Dwarfes (both on offense and defense, both on field and in sieges)- but at this point Empire Autoresolve is definitely the strongest. Ordertide became Mantide. - Lorewise fucking nonsense, if you ask me. Bretonnia AI needs something to fuck it up permanently. - That could be a stronger Wood Elf and/or Beastmen presence, but that likely wont come anytime soon. Norsca rework might also do wonders, if they could occupy every city, build walls and wouldnt suffer massive penalties on human forest/field lands - they are also human for Sigmar's sake. Dont tell me that they prefer freezing their balls off and they'd be angry at the sight of the sun and green fields near their villages. Ppl can come with how different their campaigns were, but for me- modded or unmodded, Ordertide (more like Mantide now) still wins each time. And yeah, at this point I have a steady grudge against Bretonnia, because them being the 2nd best AI faction in the game is a goddamn joke. - Also, Empire is number 1. because of its artillery and because they always get to own the entire Empire pretty easily. They do have enough powerful enemies, but the thing is with Disorder, they fight between themselves, while Order does not. Its inevitable that Order wins each time merely because of that.
Theres another big point: trade. The order factions get slight eco boosts from it, as well as huge diplo boosts, which reduces the ai-infighting and enables the tide.
When I play "evil" factions I tend to focus on 1 of the 3 and eliminate them early. Started a skyre campaign and I went straight for angrand to border princes and just finished off karak. Made grimgor my buddy and we are both moving north to deal with the empire. I tend to focus courne last because they dont seige your cities very well if you have walls
@@dodpoemdo4572 I advise that you could look at some of Legend's greenskin campaign livestreams to get to know the basics of Greenskins since anything that works in Legendary difficulty should work in Easy as well if you need some general tips I could tell you some although I am not nearly as good as Legend
@48:40 That moment when armies from the Empire, Dwarfs, and High Elves are all marching together, hot on your trail...through the middle of the goddamn desert, so you flee through Khemri's capital region.
I actually love this campaign, you are almost like a beastman herd migrating across the entire world from settlement to settlement while the forces of order hunt you down.
Well The "art of war" basically tells you to cheese af One of the best quote is say that a general shouldn't have honor couse that would lead to big mistake
that campaign is finished. even playing perfectly order tide will probably just come down and send you on the run again, till eventually you either get cornered by ten million order tide stacks, run out of money, or get worn down slowly... honestly it looks like it was set up, imo. it's very hard to lose late game, and then even more so on easy unless you literally are just playing end turn simulator....
Tribes from the north, chaos and beastmen armies coming in from everywhere on the map for example, that would be more fun. Maybe changing/balancing depending on where the player is, so its a bit of a build up and you see the other factions stuggle and die first and get a taste of your impending doom.
Never really even got to look closely at Sudenberg, it's a totally unique looking settlement with the sheer-cliffed desert walls with neat houses built all up on it. Looks really neat with the dark stone walls contrasting the oasis-vibes it has going. It's in the ass-edge of the map so unless you're playing Tik-taq-to you literally never go there and probably never see it if they even live, love the detailing they put into even the little stuff.
Grom first few step to start in ME: 1- Destroy Parravon 2- Defeat Skarnik and confederate, take his spider 3- Migrate into the badlands, confederate the Mutiny bois, Wurrzag and Grimzgor. 4- Defeat the Dwarf, take their biggest trophy profit from that 20% construction cost reduction.
I had success steamrolling up to Louen and taking Bretonnia as my home provinces and staging ground to invade the High Elves. The more I went east, the more I was bothered by Skaven and the Empire so I elected to just ignore them and thankfully the VC took out Karl for my victory obj
@@quasarlgq Yeah I literally won the campaign by accident on turn 80. Took out the bretts near me, then sailed across to kill The high elves on their little island. The unbreakable trolls plus regen gobbos magnum pizza recipe is just super strong, better once I got the other ingredient slots unlocked for the double shot archers with the armor piercing scrap buff.
Damn legend this reminds me of your Orion coming to America saving your disaster campaign and how it turned into a epic war of the beard livestreams hahaha. Bit of a shame this wasnt on legendary, was hoping for a simmilar scenario.
This episode was the greatest one yet, I really prefer the disaster campaigns where you play mostly on the campaign map, and not just 4 battles on a turn end and thats it :)
Not played too well, but honestly grom's campaign can be difficult, at the first 50 turns I was getting raided by: Norsca, ~10 stacks of high elves, the dwarves, bretonnia and the wood elves.
@@soris1062 like legend once said, he doesn't care much if its a fake disaster or not, as long as it makes for an entertaining video/campaign. and I agree with that
@@soris1062 I saw someone claiming that they were the person that sent this in the comments somewhere and they said that they are garbage and don't understand the game
i got my friend into total war using your videos. He has moved up to normal difficulty now when we play co op hoping to get him up to hard where i normally play. Keep up the good videos as always. i hope total war troy is good as i enjoyed three kingdoms
This one was oddly enough really fun to watch. I was on the edge of my seat each turn waiting to see if the next turn would be the one where you get swarmed and crushed. Hilarious and very entertaining.
In relation to the easy difficulty thing; I'm wondering if he was playing on very hard initially, but dropped the difficulty down in order to try and save himself from that situation? I can't imagine someone could be that bad at the game lol.
On easy difficulty. With one settlement. And he didn't even equip the troll hag with Blacktoof's staff. Everything about this feels like someone that just picked up WH2 on the recent sale and clearly doesn't know what they're doing yet
There should totally be the option to raze your own settlements somehow. Scorched Earth policy and all that. So if you know you are going to need to migrate and want to make sure the enemy cannot make much use of your stuff you can just burn your settlements to the ground before moving on.
Saw the thumbnail and thought it was playing as the Empire. Video starts and I find out that no, the settlement is under siege from 4 dwarf stacks, two empire stacks and there are like three high elf stacks on the way and a third empire stack around the corner. Jesus fucking Christ. End times.
There's no way in hell you can reach turn 201 while playing on easy(not even mentionning save scumming*) and be in such a dire situation, I swear these people set up their game just to give legend a challenge.
This just made me want to see an orc campaign where you take no settlements, just go around raiding and looting like Chaos or Beastmen, as it seems they are pretty good at that. Cause of how it works you can hold a settlement for a few turns at most to recruit and replenish and such though, but no hanging about, see how long you can go, or if you can destroy the order tide.
should be renamed - "How the orcs survived, when the world hunted them" - I like to roleplay too. Like the orcs fleeing far south. The dwarves and humans chasing them out, like they are a plague.
That dirty laugh when he sees the difficulty rating XD Ye same mate, I guess after a few hundred hours in the game you kinda forget that there are people that have not played Total War games for a decade+.
Oh how many times has this happened to me when I am playing certain factions. Everything is going great until dwarves, empire, elves and brettonia declare war on me and dog pile with endless ENDLESS stacks. Eventually I just give up after fighting non-stop 3 and 4 on 1 stack battles for hours and hours on end. They've GOT to fix this.
For me is kinda fun. Rising tensions between dwarfs/empire vs my imrik play through. Never wanted a treaty with me, and as I was sweeping the southern deserts , shuddenburg with 3 settlements declared war on me. I'm rank 3, 1,2 being dwarves and empire. The dwarves joined their side. At that points it's literally world war. Empire joined in after 15turns. As I kept bribing them not to with influence. Turning point was the grind fest near the eight peaks orc mountains. I grinded like 3 stacks battles with my 1,2 stacks non stop. My home province nearby was recruiting non stop. Truly war times. After 15 turns, I stood on top countless dwarf bodies about to grab silver peak, the dwarf home base. Wrestling to rank 2. Empire joined in. But my 4 stacks led by alith anar have finished sweeping dark elves to the norsca territories right at the empire northern coast line :). Fought some skirmishes and they send 4 stacks trying to corner me. I ran back to the norsca waste hoping them to chase and suffer attrition. But basically a stalemate. But this has kept the empire from sending reinforcements to the dwarfs. And on Dino continent. My third army wing is making headways to conquer all that lands taken by the empire. ^^ oh ya, I was curb stomping respanse bretonnia at the deserts as well. Ending the kroqgar rebellion. ^^. War on all fronts.
One of the side effects of the Greenskins being buffed is that the Goblins and the Vampire counts are running roughshod over the world in the campaign game, and the dwarves are nowhere to be seen. I was splaying a high Elf game, and about turn 100, when I had more or less ended the Dark Elves, I got to heading East to try and get rid of Chaos, and the Goblins had well over 100 settlements and the Vampire Counts over 50. It was going to be a nightmare dealing with it all. Although the patch has helped playing the Goblins, it has made playing any other faction else a little problematic. I think they are going to have to buff the dwarves or roll back some of the Goblin changes, because although I agree the dwarves were too strong, from a campaign chaos/order balance perspective they need to be.
I think it's more randomised as to how the AI does cos my post-update HE run had the Ordertide bossing things as usual (TK seemed to be doing pretty strong tho).
You and I have had very different experiences. Playing as Azhag I’ve seen Sylvania consistently surge to conquering half the Empire but around turn 50 Reikland pretty much stops them and beats them back to their starting position. Then Karaz-A-Karak confederates every dwarf faction on the map and the only Greenskin that hasn’t been wiped out by Karaz-A-Karak/Mors/Eshin is Grimgor.
@@dabbingtoast7743 The game I am playing, Reikland doesn't seem to exist anymore. I've exposed the whole west coast of the Empire and I can't see them or anyone who trades with them. The Vampire Counts own Nordland and this is the second game recently I have seen them do that.
Maybe I've lucked out on my playthrough, it's turn 109. Reikland has been destroyed by the Vampire Counts, Couronne was destroyed by about turn 70 by the Orcs near Marienburg and Norsca. Karaz aKarak is unusually quiet and the high elves don't seem to want to venture from their land.
It’s when I see these kind of campaigns that I realise I shouldn’t be so purist in my campaigns and let it go if things go wrong instead of restarting if some events ruin my plans at low to mid term... it can become very interesting far later to restart from an other region.
i dont like that grom on ME have on start yellow settlements around him, in the other hand he can confederate skarsnik early PS 10:40 imo that dude made this campaign on purpose :D
fantastic looting roadtrip for grom the paunch who appears to be guy fieri in his later years. Dining on, looting, and destroying everything in his path.
@@AMRIV thank you, makes sense. Now that i think about it happens all the time. Updating missions where it says to recruit a certain character also will only trigger when you disband or recruit some units after that... at least that happened a couple of times yesterday to me :D
He had no time to recruit. You saw how clutch his situation was, how close he was to getting surrounded when he was down in Khemri, if he spent 1 extra turn recruiting the 'good trolls' he would have gotten fucked. 4 higher quality trolls don't make up for you having to fight 3 armies.
@@jabloko992 You missed the point. After capturing the settlement instead of instantly recruiting, he just repairs the building. then he moves and recruits next turn.
This turned same as my campaign, altough I conquered Athel Loren and destroyed Wood Elves. Started new campaign for Bonerattlez it's going fairly well for now.
Hey legend I have an idea for a campaign. It's basically clan moulder before it's released: pick eshin, build food (but don't conquer) till you can have 4 shadowy dealings, find hell pit, and take it with the shadowy dealing, abandon flayed rock, and play from up there. Also good relationship with moulder and monsters on every army, not full stacks but some of them
And here I thought we wouldn't see a worse campaign than that Cult of Sotek campaign where he got kicked out of Lustria. I'd say truth is stranger than fiction, but...ya know
They must have balanced that, previously they would be dispatching your heroes fast leaving you blind lol, this situation always occurs if you do not take out several order tide factions early on since your potential allies are shit so you gotto stop the order tide, the first thing they used to do is kill all your heroes so you are defenceless with their max level heroes to finding you every time, oh and blocking you. I got into this situation on beastmen, the order tide kept finding me easily with hero's, it kinda defeats one of the main mechanics of beastmen to be able to hide and strike, hiding is impossible as the beastmen when they have heroes around, even when I went way out of their way, somehow they knew where I was by cheating, it's stupid you cannot get away from the order tide. As a roaming race your advantage is supposed to be that you can evade and choose when to strike, but you really cannot get away if the AI has a couple of factions after you. I went South, they followed me no problem, I went across the sea, same thing, they never stop and they find you even when they should have no idea where you are in ambush stance, it's out of balance. It's a shame that if you don't take out a couple of order tide factions early, you are doomed.
Didn't realize that Total War: Warhammer II could also work as a survival horror game
Allow me to introduce you to the Order Tide
Yeah , this video gave me strong Attila vibes, especially when you play as a horde like the suebi.
You didn’t play skarsnik pre-greenskin rework, did you? That’s some survival horror right there man.
If you are one of the "bad guys", then Oh boy.
@@ahmadtarek7763 biiubiibiibiiiibii
now THIS is a real lore friendly campaign. none of this defending settlements shit, just a big green boss and his big green mob rolling around the place smashing stuff and snatching shinies. beautiful.
I think he could consider himself a Horde army for the time being xD
Yeah really hoped they'd give greenskins the ability to become hordes, AI greenskins already does it so why not let us do it.
@@ahmadtarek7763 wow that's actually a good idea, maybe a mix of a horde / settlement faction that combines the best of both, not forcing you to play in a certain way but instead gives you freedom to say "fuck occupying shit, more armies instead"
@@ahmadtarek7763 probably because hordes kinda suck right now, the only good hordes are the semi-horde ones that can also occupy settlements, such as vampire coast.
@@sympunny8636 it's true that hordes suck in warhammer but that wasn't always the case.
Back in Attila the hordes were extremely strong and fun to play as and against, hopefully with warhammer 3 on the way they revamp the horde mechanics.
9:25 ''If we go through Athel Loren that might be okay''
said literally no one else ever
We all remember that Volkmar attempt.
@@Witch_King i don't, can you explain please?^^
@@sidian4257 watch "When the trees start speaking Elvish protect your artillery". It was funny but not for Volkmar.
@@Witch_King Thanks. :)
"Luckily he got a pretty good army"
1 minute, in battle
"this army is not particularly good"
Makes you think
Its about the different Perspectives, so at first he meant its good enough to get out there and break the siege, in the battle he meant the army is not good enough to just rush at them or let them come and finish them off, he needed to harass them with grom and the hag, with a doomstack he could just let them come and beat them without casulties.
I think it was more like:
"Luckily this army is pretty strong, so we can actually try to break out and do something."
"But the composition isn't all that great."
@@joeosthoff1109 Nah, I think he just glanced over the units and saw some good units, but was more focused on the situation, I highly doubt there's anything more to it cuz it really isn't a good army. No Greenskin army is strong enough to get out of that by fighting anyway.
Well, this is from the same guy who tried to make empire knights fight a monster they were unsuited to fight then called them trash for dying.
CavemanBearPig this is also from one of the best TW players the game has..
Typical ork strategy: got destroyed, retreat, migrate and then start another WAAAAGH. Brutally cunning and cunningly brutal.
"Orkses is never defeated in battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!"
This was actually the most thematic I've seen yet. Very loreful.
Thing I always admire about this series is how long other players stick at their campaigns even if they're losing badly
hey the captains gotta go down with the ship!
This series helped me stick to campaigns. I used to quit as soon as I'd lose a big battle
"The greenskins have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win."
Karla Marxsa, famous Goblin philosopher.
well, that did help him out to get freedom from chaos dwarf slavery, so there's wisdom in those words.
Great, you Just increased my hatred for greenskins
Im definetly naming shaman that in my next greeskins campaing
This comment wins the internet
@Vladimir Lenin Smh people out here not reading any theory.
When that -25% movement range event arbitrarily hit you, I was reminded of all the cheats the AI tries to throw at the player. It's always timed "perfectly" too: Just about to finish off an enemy? They get confederated by someone you're not at war with. Just about to conquer the last settlement to complete a province, or perhaps use as a sack settlement for leveling? Your ally, or non-aggression cohort takes it instead; and they're not the same race so you can't confederate them. Just about to catch an army that's been running away from you? Movement penalties out of nowhere. Almost have public order under control? Unhappy populace event for no reason.
funny that you meantioned that, beacuse i got that but the game like went "you can either have public order which you need, or how about CASH?" lets just say, there are alot of rebellions i need to handle every turn :)
confederations happen because when you are close to eliminating a faction, they are significantly weakened thus easier to confederate by the AI so not really all that random
What a lot of people don't understand is that the AI, well at least in the grand campaign map, have machine learning capabilities. If you defeat a much larger army? They'll bring more elite troops. You hold a city without losing it ever? They'll bring more then 3 armies to deal with it. They lost to an ambush in a particular area? It'll now avoid said area or at least check for ambushes.
There's other things too. Now, is this some technology that continues to grow? No. From what I've seen at least, it's only for the campaign you're currently on. It's similar to procedural generation and how that works, but it's more with the AI and what it does/thinks.
I mean, just think about it. How would you even randomize a vast amount of AI factions to do similar to what the player does? There's some hardcode still so obviously it's not going to be smart. But either way, it does very much so have machine learning capability.
15:06 - "Man, that's exactly what I want."
28:35 - "And now you have 4 slots"
rest of the campaign - "I am never gonna touch the cauldron again"
I mean, the rest of the campaign was just run run run, remember, he's trying to fix this guy's campaign, it was mainly for that person instead of himself.
@@jabloko992 Yeah, but that first recipe would have been very useful for the 'run run run' part of the video
Legend is pretty hardcore.
gets the most messed up campaign on easy difficulty and cranks it up to very hard lol
its like seeing your own house burning down and throwing mollys in there while firemens trying to handle it Lul :D
10:40
'Just do a bit of-'
41:15 "YOU PICKED THE WRONG HOUSE FOOL"
This needs to be turned into a live stream. Would be interesting to see if you could survive long enough to turn things around. That way you don't feel rushed to get anything done like you do in your daily videos.
Kinda like that fun Orion migration a while back
Sounds interesting
Chris The way he plays them would be tough to watch I think, and quite a slog for him with a live audience to entertain and deal with ‘do this’ or ‘do that’. He also doesn’t win first time every time. Lots of reloading and trying different things, reloading poor engagements, refighting engagements for more favourable results.
Me seeing the thumbnail: "Oh that empire stack seems to be in quite the pickle, this might be one of the worse disasters I've seen."
Me after seeing and hearing that it's actually a Broken Axe disaster: "we're playing as the wHAT?!?!"
I though this to, u til I saw that small blue flag under the order tide.
“You’re gonna find dwarves everywhere, except for Lustria”
*Laughs in Spine if Sotek*
Naggarond is the only continent stunties-free
@@torquevonthorne948 Well, there's Ulthuan. And technically Albion as well lol
Deathsdayoff person because he’s the coolest
But they usually don't survive the lustria battle royal, having 500 legendary lords in one place usually means minor factions don't stand a chance.
I just looked it up and here is a list of LLs in Lustria:
Ikit claw
Skrolk
Teclis
Luther harkon
Tehenuhuain
Gor rok
Nakai
Markus wulfhart
Lokhir fellheart
Khalida
Plus I heard rumors(could very well be false) that the white dwarf will be moved to command the spine of sotek.
@@ahmadtarek7763 If there's a rework of the stunties, they absolutely need the runes and some runic golems/better artillery. Lorewise their gunnery is the better of the whole world, and right now the empire ones are just so much better 'tis a grudge
The disaster campaigns with a good story are really nice. Like that one lizardman migration to Nagashizzar
I like this series, simply because some scenarios he was given are so absurd so i cant escape the thought that people who send their campaigns did it on purpose! :D
I've only just discovered his channel - you know what that particular episode was called? Gonna get to it sooner or later but I'm intrigued now after reading your comment.
I loved his "Escape The Green Tide or Die" one. 3 episodes of Legend abandoning his capital, going to the desert as the Dwarves, lying, killing, and conquering tons of land before slowly pushing up and taking Karak Eight Peaks.
While watching the video I could only think of one thing. My poor man Settra minding his own business until an obesed gobo run through his backyard bringing armagedon and judgement day.
Rip setra, homie was chilling in his pyramid and you had to go bring hell on his doorstep
Order tide needs a buff.
Some people actually advocate that unironically. At this point if I mod the game, I rather skip Order faction only mods, like Empire heroes, to not add to the unbalance.
At this point, the entire 'Order united' when Chaos comes should just be removed as it is. High Elves/Dark Elves and Dwarf/Greenskins finally seem sorta balanced.
Even the Empire seems to lose to Vampires sometimes.
Although Empire and Dwarf will still win lategame - but at least now they can get rekt early game fairly easily.
The problem again is Bretonnia. Surrounded by Ulthuan and the Empire. - And both of those giants will declare war if somebody messes too hard with Bretonnia. With a weak as fuck Norsca to the north, Wood Elves who barely do anything, nonexistent Beastmen, a weak Clan Skryre and a eunuch VCoast to the south.
And easy confeds usually resulting in them having the Southlands for free.
Louen - with 4 settlements, was rank 3 in my last game. Outclassing Tyrion with entire Ulthuan under his belt. Seriously, wtf kind of balance is that? Then ofc he got Southlands for free because Repanse took it. Because Tomb Kings are also mostly worthless as an AI faction and cant stand up to any Order race.
Grom isnt even there at Bretonnia on ME, and the 2 Vcounts cant do crap to stop them, nor can Norsca. Bretonnia itself is in a good spot if a player plays it. But as AI, their autoresolve can beat Dwarfes (both on offense and defense, both on field and in sieges)- but at this point Empire Autoresolve is definitely the strongest.
Ordertide became Mantide. - Lorewise fucking nonsense, if you ask me.
Bretonnia AI needs something to fuck it up permanently. - That could be a stronger Wood Elf and/or Beastmen presence, but that likely wont come anytime soon. Norsca rework might also do wonders, if they could occupy every city, build walls and wouldnt suffer massive penalties on human forest/field lands - they are also human for Sigmar's sake. Dont tell me that they prefer freezing their balls off and they'd be angry at the sight of the sun and green fields near their villages.
Ppl can come with how different their campaigns were, but for me- modded or unmodded, Ordertide (more like Mantide now) still wins each time. And yeah, at this point I have a steady grudge against Bretonnia, because them being the 2nd best AI faction in the game is a goddamn joke. - Also, Empire is number 1. because of its artillery and because they always get to own the entire Empire pretty easily.
They do have enough powerful enemies, but the thing is with Disorder, they fight between themselves, while Order does not. Its inevitable that Order wins each time merely because of that.
Theres another big point: trade. The order factions get slight eco boosts from it, as well as huge diplo boosts, which reduces the ai-infighting and enables the tide.
When I play "evil" factions I tend to focus on 1 of the 3 and eliminate them early. Started a skyre campaign and I went straight for angrand to border princes and just finished off karak. Made grimgor my buddy and we are both moving north to deal with the empire. I tend to focus courne last because they dont seige your cities very well if you have walls
Order tide has been getting wrecked by grimgor and malekith for me recently
Don't you see? The order tide is necessary so that when chaos gets all their goodies in game 3 the factions of order won't simply roll over and die
My man lasted 200 turns as a beginner!
I start most of my campaigns and end it at like turn 150 cause it gets boring!
He's a true legend of total war!
@@dodpoemdo4572 did you play the campaign through and manage to save it ?:D
"I'm gonna put it back on easy for you cause that seems like where it belongs for you." ouch. Legend with the judgement!
8:55 I'm starting to think this whole campaign is to test/troll Legend
10:40 LOL, gotta give props to the player for sticking through it, gotta start somewhere, I guess
@@dodpoemdo4572 I advise that you could look at some of Legend's greenskin campaign livestreams to get to know the basics of Greenskins since anything that works in Legendary difficulty should work in Easy as well if you need some general tips I could tell you some although I am not nearly as good as Legend
@Aggressive Tubesock LOL, champ, wanna project that gatekeeping any further?!
@@dodpoemdo4572 How could you be good enough to survive to turn 200 and max out Grom but bad enough to only have one settlement?
@@dodpoemdo4572 does he explain what he's done when he sends it back, or do you have to watch the video to find out
Literally lord of the rings. Elves, dwarves, and man have come together to push back the orcs
10:36 best part and Legends couple seconds reaction. We all started not as pros.
I would expect that the player only turned it down to easy after getting into a hole.
@@robbievulcan9564 exactly what I was thinking
My first game was on very high, never played easier, and always sufer(
@48:40
That moment when armies from the Empire, Dwarfs, and High Elves are all marching together, hot on your trail...through the middle of the goddamn desert, so you flee through Khemri's capital region.
I actually love this campaign, you are almost like a beastman herd migrating across the entire world from settlement to settlement while the forces of order hunt you down.
These 'cheese' strategies seem like they should belong in a book. Perhaps something along the lines of 'The Art of Cheese War'?
All of his cheeses are already in a book, it's called the book of grudges
Well
The "art of war" basically tells you to cheese af
One of the best quote is say that a general shouldn't have honor couse that would lead to big mistake
Art of cheese
'The Cheese of War'
@@warsmithgalvinc4151 That got a genuine laugh out of me, well done.
You know, the really impressive part is how hellbend the whole Ordertide was to chase Grom across the planet like a animal.
16:58 "That's a nice Karak you have there. Would be shame if something... happened to it."
I actually got really in to this. - Even the parts that might be considered slow.
Easily could go more rounds into this campaign, it's intense.
Humans, dwarves and elves all united in the hunt for a fat gobbo. Truly a heartwarming story.
Legend: Surrounded by cca 8 fullstacks
Also Legend: "So, after we finish these guys..."
Jeez, XD When Legend has to spend 50 mins+ just running away, you know the title isn't click bait.
Very interesting vid, Awesome stuff!
I loved that laugh when he saw the difficulty
that campaign is finished. even playing perfectly order tide will probably just come down and send you on the run again, till eventually you either get cornered by ten million order tide stacks, run out of money, or get worn down slowly... honestly it looks like it was set up, imo. it's very hard to lose late game, and then even more so on easy unless you literally are just playing end turn simulator....
Man I would watch a movie about this. Grom and his misadventures of finding a new home.
I'm imagining the thing and it's glorious.
Dude when that loaded in I spit my soda on my monitor, thats a disaster alright.
I just bursted into laught yelling "what is that?"
41:12 is probably my favourite part. Scouting always pays off!
10:36 playing on easy difficulty
22:51 recruiting regular trolls
1:13:34 making a giant doomstack
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times are changing
No one else fell for it? Damn.
Do a live stream of this campaign, its a very interesting scenario
This.
Second, this is fun :D
We need a real Chaos Tide, the end time shouldn't be human goggle up entire world and start the Warhammer 40K.
that's what third game is for.
Yep, let's remember how annoying where the huns in attila, with that slow-ass growth rate
Hard to balance, they would need to change mechanics. The way it works now means a strong chaos event makes empire pretty much unplayable.
Tribes from the north, chaos and beastmen armies coming in from everywhere on the map for example, that would be more fun. Maybe changing/balancing depending on where the player is, so its a bit of a build up and you see the other factions stuggle and die first and get a taste of your impending doom.
everybody gangsta until legend says campaign instead of battle
Never really even got to look closely at Sudenberg, it's a totally unique looking settlement with the sheer-cliffed desert walls with neat houses built all up on it. Looks really neat with the dark stone walls contrasting the oasis-vibes it has going. It's in the ass-edge of the map so unless you're playing Tik-taq-to you literally never go there and probably never see it if they even live, love the detailing they put into even the little stuff.
Grom first few step to start in ME:
1- Destroy Parravon
2- Defeat Skarnik and confederate, take his spider
3- Migrate into the badlands, confederate the Mutiny bois, Wurrzag and Grimzgor.
4- Defeat the Dwarf, take their biggest trophy profit from that 20% construction cost reduction.
I had success steamrolling up to Louen and taking Bretonnia as my home provinces and staging ground to invade the High Elves. The more I went east, the more I was bothered by Skaven and the Empire so I elected to just ignore them and thankfully the VC took out Karl for my victory obj
Grom strategy outline for ME: Do whatever you want, he is super strong and recipe spam takes care of economy.
Dont even migrate to badlands, literally go into the elve island after skarsnik, get your stone trolls unbreakable and enjoy
@@quasarlgq Yeah I literally won the campaign by accident on turn 80. Took out the bretts near me, then sailed across to kill The high elves on their little island. The unbreakable trolls plus regen gobbos magnum pizza recipe is just super strong, better once I got the other ingredient slots unlocked for the double shot archers with the armor piercing scrap buff.
You are assuming skarsnik didnt get wounded by turn 5 and lost his starting units
This guy is absolutely amazing! I wish I had a disaster campaign to send him.
"If we get caught in the underway we could beat anything"-legend
5 sec later also legend- "yeaaa no" proceeds to run away
Like 48 minutes in and there are just so many armies streaming after him, they just like "ey ey, why are you running?"
Damn legend this reminds me of your Orion coming to America saving your disaster campaign and how it turned into a epic war of the beard livestreams hahaha. Bit of a shame this wasnt on legendary, was hoping for a simmilar scenario.
my max quality increases every time i refresh
This episode was the greatest one yet, I really prefer the disaster campaigns where you play mostly on the campaign map, and not just 4 battles on a turn end and thats it :)
"What difficulty is this on" *clicks* *laughs hysterically* that was so funny lol
I don't care if this was a troll campaign or not, this video was great
Something tells me this guy doesn't have too much experience playing this game
Nah, looks like a prepared disaster for Legend.
Erik Litsenius props picked it up with this update
Not played too well, but honestly grom's campaign can be difficult, at the first 50 turns I was getting raided by: Norsca, ~10 stacks of high elves, the dwarves, bretonnia and the wood elves.
Yah...just...wow.
@@ascendedbro1828 who would bother going 200 turns just to do that?
I'm so confused
how did he survive 201 turns in the first place?
and what made him wait til literally the end to send the campaign in?
In my headcannon he started losing a lot and was desperate, then got to the final city and gave up
Looks honestly like a setup to send in to me. ^^ Grom level 30 after 200 turns seems low. Especially with the lack of map exploration.
@@soris1062 like legend once said, he doesn't care much if its a fake disaster or not, as long as it makes for an entertaining video/campaign. and I agree with that
@@soris1062 I saw someone claiming that they were the person that sent this in the comments somewhere and they said that they are garbage and don't understand the game
@@ProfessorHanger I'm not good at the game either but fuck I can at least do better
To be honest, ending in that situation is even more amazing that saving it. It was the loeral definition of “ what the ordertide does to you. “
Nice impression of Grom's stomach at 30:22
THAT'S NOT RETREATING, THAT'S FALLING BACK WITH STYLE
i got my friend into total war using your videos. He has moved up to normal difficulty now when we play co op hoping to get him up to hard where i normally play. Keep up the good videos as always. i hope total war troy is good as i enjoyed three kingdoms
Nicely done legend. Always play at the highest level you can, and you smash almost any situation.
I would love to see your own disaster campaign.
This one was oddly enough really fun to watch. I was on the edge of my seat each turn waiting to see if the next turn would be the one where you get swarmed and crushed. Hilarious and very entertaining.
In relation to the easy difficulty thing; I'm wondering if he was playing on very hard initially, but dropped the difficulty down in order to try and save himself from that situation? I can't imagine someone could be that bad at the game lol.
10:32 That laugh just killed the soul of my man.
Closing argument: "I will put it on easy for you, because thats where you belong"
Auch!
What the hell, it's turn 201 and Grom is 29?!?!?!
On easy difficulty. With one settlement. And he didn't even equip the troll hag with Blacktoof's staff. Everything about this feels like someone that just picked up WH2 on the recent sale and clearly doesn't know what they're doing yet
Definitely their first total war as well
@@Kuddochan he could have turned down the difficulty though right?
@@scutterybuttery449 it's on easy already...
That guy won't last 10 turns with the new save unless he seriously learn to play better.
There should totally be the option to raze your own settlements somehow. Scorched Earth policy and all that. So if you know you are going to need to migrate and want to make sure the enemy cannot make much use of your stuff you can just burn your settlements to the ground before moving on.
Saw the thumbnail and thought it was playing as the Empire. Video starts and I find out that no, the settlement is under siege from 4 dwarf stacks, two empire stacks and there are like three high elf stacks on the way and a third empire stack around the corner. Jesus fucking Christ. End times.
-"you're safe here..."
This is obviously some new usage of the word "safe" that I was previously unaware of. :)
17:55
That would actually be an interesting challenge campaign
Yes Grom was sitting around eating his meals then the Ordertide came. Now he sat his Throne and wants help. XD
Man they should make a movie or a series from this disaster campaign xD Grom - Leader of the Lost Orcs!
There's no way in hell you can reach turn 201 while playing on easy(not even mentionning save scumming*) and be in such a dire situation, I swear these people set up their game just to give legend a challenge.
Actually, I'd love to see a multi-episode series of you trying to defeat the Order in this campaign.
This just made me want to see an orc campaign where you take no settlements, just go around raiding and looting like Chaos or Beastmen, as it seems they are pretty good at that. Cause of how it works you can hold a settlement for a few turns at most to recruit and replenish and such though, but no hanging about, see how long you can go, or if you can destroy the order tide.
should be renamed - "How the orcs survived, when the world hunted them" - I like to roleplay too. Like the orcs fleeing far south. The dwarves and humans chasing them out, like they are a plague.
That dirty laugh when he sees the difficulty rating XD Ye same mate, I guess after a few hundred hours in the game you kinda forget that there are people that have not played Total War games for a decade+.
Jayson Willman Hope you enjoy the game, that’s the most important thing lol. I played on easy for the first month or so I had it.
Oh how many times has this happened to me when I am playing certain factions. Everything is going great until dwarves, empire, elves and brettonia declare war on me and dog pile with endless ENDLESS stacks. Eventually I just give up after fighting non-stop 3 and 4 on 1 stack battles for hours and hours on end. They've GOT to fix this.
For me is kinda fun. Rising tensions between dwarfs/empire vs my imrik play through. Never wanted a treaty with me, and as I was sweeping the southern deserts , shuddenburg with 3 settlements declared war on me. I'm rank 3, 1,2 being dwarves and empire. The dwarves joined their side. At that points it's literally world war. Empire joined in after 15turns. As I kept bribing them not to with influence. Turning point was the grind fest near the eight peaks orc mountains. I grinded like 3 stacks battles with my 1,2 stacks non stop. My home province nearby was recruiting non stop. Truly war times. After 15 turns, I stood on top countless dwarf bodies about to grab silver peak, the dwarf home base. Wrestling to rank 2. Empire joined in. But my 4 stacks led by alith anar have finished sweeping dark elves to the norsca territories right at the empire northern coast line :). Fought some skirmishes and they send 4 stacks trying to corner me. I ran back to the norsca waste hoping them to chase and suffer attrition. But basically a stalemate. But this has kept the empire from sending reinforcements to the dwarfs. And on Dino continent. My third army wing is making headways to conquer all that lands taken by the empire. ^^ oh ya, I was curb stomping respanse bretonnia at the deserts as well. Ending the kroqgar rebellion. ^^. War on all fronts.
One of the side effects of the Greenskins being buffed is that the Goblins and the Vampire counts are running roughshod over the world in the campaign game, and the dwarves are nowhere to be seen.
I was splaying a high Elf game, and about turn 100, when I had more or less ended the Dark Elves, I got to heading East to try and get rid of Chaos, and the Goblins had well over 100 settlements and the Vampire Counts over 50. It was going to be a nightmare dealing with it all.
Although the patch has helped playing the Goblins, it has made playing any other faction else a little problematic. I think they are going to have to buff the dwarves or roll back some of the Goblin changes, because although I agree the dwarves were too strong, from a campaign chaos/order balance perspective they need to be.
I think it's more randomised as to how the AI does cos my post-update HE run had the Ordertide bossing things as usual (TK seemed to be doing pretty strong tho).
You and I have had very different experiences. Playing as Azhag I’ve seen Sylvania consistently surge to conquering half the Empire but around turn 50 Reikland pretty much stops them and beats them back to their starting position. Then Karaz-A-Karak confederates every dwarf faction on the map and the only Greenskin that hasn’t been wiped out by Karaz-A-Karak/Mors/Eshin is Grimgor.
the dwarves actually win sometimes and the vampires tend to lose in the long run once the empire starts the confederations
And by then Grimgor is strength rank 55 with two settlements in the badlands under-siege from Queek
@@dabbingtoast7743 The game I am playing, Reikland doesn't seem to exist anymore. I've exposed the whole west coast of the Empire and I can't see them or anyone who trades with them. The Vampire Counts own Nordland and this is the second game recently I have seen them do that.
45:20 - You could have teleported to the quest battle to get two turns of movement for free there.
Your army doesn't actually move when you teleport to a quest battle.
@@mikewatts8441 It does if you beat it.
@@Vennnaya not in any quest battle I've done. Is it a special case for Grom?
Maybe I've lucked out on my playthrough, it's turn 109. Reikland has been destroyed by the Vampire Counts, Couronne was destroyed by about turn 70 by the Orcs near Marienburg and Norsca. Karaz aKarak is unusually quiet and the high elves don't seem to want to venture from their land.
Make a live on this. Would be a change from starting a new campaign.
It’s when I see these kind of campaigns that I realise I shouldn’t be so purist in my campaigns and let it go if things go wrong instead of restarting if some events ruin my plans at low to mid term... it can become very interesting far later to restart from an other region.
i dont like that grom on ME have on start yellow settlements around him, in the other hand he can confederate skarsnik early PS 10:40 imo that dude made this campaign on purpose :D
Grom be like: aight imma head out
The dwarves when you were running away: STOP BLOWING UP MY SHIP!
Make it look so easy. Thanks for posting, improving my game.
fantastic looting roadtrip for grom the paunch who appears to be guy fieri in his later years. Dining on, looting, and destroying everything in his path.
my absolute favorite episide of saving a disaster! so glad i managed to find it again!
I like this, no specially scripted and set up anti-LoTW disaster, just a genuine disaster campaign where the Ordertide wrecked them.
Can someone tell me what happens at 30:35 ? He disbands two units of regiments of renown and his income goes even lower.
Around 29:35 he hires some heroes. Seems the income didn't update properly until he fired a unit.
@@AMRIV thank you, makes sense. Now that i think about it happens all the time. Updating missions where it says to recruit a certain character also will only trigger when you disband or recruit some units after that... at least that happened a couple of times yesterday to me :D
17:50 insted of spending 2 turns to recrute good trolls you spent one turn repaing and 1 turn recuting for bad ones? Im confused
He had no time to recruit. You saw how clutch his situation was, how close he was to getting surrounded when he was down in Khemri, if he spent 1 extra turn recruiting the 'good trolls' he would have gotten fucked. 4 higher quality trolls don't make up for you having to fight 3 armies.
@@jabloko992 You missed the point. After capturing the settlement instead of instantly recruiting, he just repairs the building. then he moves and recruits next turn.
@@timothykurdt7645 Because you can't recruit with a damaged recruitment building, no?
@@cancer2044 you can
@@cancer2044 Yes, you can
It would be fun that legend puts these save files into somewhere so that we can play it as well
Imagine marching across the entire world just to chase down a fat green guy and his pet rocks
lol savage bro, "obviously this campaign has been played, reallly, really badly!" i spat my coffee haha
The best you’ve done. Entertaining, and I’m learning so much watching you!
This turned same as my campaign, altough I conquered Athel Loren and destroyed Wood Elves. Started new campaign for Bonerattlez it's going fairly well for now.
This was absolutely amazing. I would honestly multiple episodes of this nightmare campaign.
Could someone please explain what happened to his movement range at 36:30?
10:36 epic Skaven laughter
Hey legend I have an idea for a campaign. It's basically clan moulder before it's released: pick eshin, build food (but don't conquer) till you can have 4 shadowy dealings, find hell pit, and take it with the shadowy dealing, abandon flayed rock, and play from up there. Also good relationship with moulder and monsters on every army, not full stacks but some of them
And here I thought we wouldn't see a worse campaign than that Cult of Sotek campaign where he got kicked out of Lustria. I'd say truth is stranger than fiction, but...ya know
They must have balanced that, previously they would be dispatching your heroes fast leaving you blind lol, this situation always occurs if you do not take out several order tide factions early on since your potential allies are shit so you gotto stop the order tide, the first thing they used to do is kill all your heroes so you are defenceless with their max level heroes to finding you every time, oh and blocking you.
I got into this situation on beastmen, the order tide kept finding me easily with hero's, it kinda defeats one of the main mechanics of beastmen to be able to hide and strike, hiding is impossible as the beastmen when they have heroes around, even when I went way out of their way, somehow they knew where I was by cheating, it's stupid you cannot get away from the order tide. As a roaming race your advantage is supposed to be that you can evade and choose when to strike, but you really cannot get away if the AI has a couple of factions after you.
I went South, they followed me no problem, I went across the sea, same thing, they never stop and they find you even when they should have no idea where you are in ambush stance, it's out of balance.
It's a shame that if you don't take out a couple of order tide factions early, you are doomed.