No, this era didn't give out petty points like they do now. This Era is where real wrestling took place. Every point scored in this era was actually fought for. You couldn't win a match with just 1 or 2 points. You had to score at least 3 points to win. No matter if the score was 2 to 1 or 2 to 2, you had to have 3 to win. I miss wrestling in those times.
We used to have a rules near the out of bounds, but they were more subjective. The mats had a “zone” near the edge and if you got close to that the ref would yell “zone red” or “zone blue” depending on your color in that match. If you didn’t try to circle back inside, then you would get hit with a passive call and depending on the year, that could result in you going into the par tare position. Similarly, if you weren’t the one in the zone, but you were preventing him from circling back towards the center of the mat, you could be called for passive, because you were preventing action from taking place. You could shoot someone through the zone and that could result in a point or par tare, and to be honest I don’t remember the difference. All I remember is that Angle got away with a lot of shit in his Olympic gold finals. He was doing a good job of trying to circle back in, but that Iranian shot him through the zone many times. To the ref’s credit though , the Iranian wasn’t necessarily trying to take him down, but trying to get a zone call. So, the subjective nature of the old rules definitely had some merit. It’s been a long time since I’ve recalled a lot of my matches then, but I do recall that those passive calls would add up and could work against you at the end of the match.
Look at the number of Headbutts brands does in this match, its unreal. Not a single one was called. He'd have been disqualified in the first 30 seconds in today's standard. Brand never had any technique, Headbutting, elbowing, jamming opponent's fingers, thats all he resorted to, always tried to injure the opponent.
100% offense, all the time. Cross was an extremely defensive wrestler against Brands. That and taking consistent injury time is what won him the series. Both Terry and Tom are underated on their technical skills. Both were good technicians, they were just extremely physical. They were not trying to hurt anyone, just wear their opponents down. At least Cross went on to win Olympic gold for Team USA. Whoever won that series was more than likely going to be an Olympic Champ that year.
You have no idea what you are talking about. This is exactly what wrestling was like. This is what separated the men from the boys. Look at all past Olympic champs from this era and you will see how hard fought each on was. This sport was brutal. Today's sport is too gentle. They literally changed the sport up to get more of a following because it wasn't popular. I wish you would say that to Brands to his face. He would school you.
@@mikeohara5083 Wrestling is not MMA your dumb dumb, wrestling is all about technique, Not breaking opponents fingers, Apparently you are the one that doesn't know what you are talking about.
@@brandonreichel384100% offense??? really?100% trying to cause injury since Brands had No technique. I find it interesting that you talk about kendall taking injury time but didn't mention why kendall took the 2 seconds injury time, Brands headbutted him 11 times and tried to move kendall's fingers in directions that fingers are not designed to move into. Also saying if brands had won, he'd have been the olympic champ too, is such an amateurish assumption and kind of silly really. Kendall brought home the Olympic gold & all you are doing is criticizing him and praising Brands which makes me think you are somehow related to Brands. what a shame, you seem so ungrateful.
@ Music Fan. I said at least Cross brought home gold. If you do a little research for yourself, you will see that Terry was the reining World Champ and ranked number one in the World at the time. My comment on either competitor more than likely winning gold was spot on. I like Cross and I respect Cross. I am a true fan of the sport. But, if you ever wrestled and/or coached you would know the difference between offensive and defensive wrestling. You would also know the difference between technique and a brutal/physical style of wrestling and a combination of both. Cross was typically a good technician and extremely slick. Brands took that away from him by being physical in the series. Cross was able to capitalize on Brands aggressiveness and score on defensive points. It was one of the great Olympic Trial series of all time. I did not take anything away from Cross, I only stated facts. You are also right, this is not suppose to be MMA. But, the new rules have made wrestling more soft from a physical standpoint. Wrestling has evolved over the years and it is currently at it's peak technically speaking. Times have changed, but it is a great sport and the history of this sport is what makes it great.
was there no push out points in this era?
No, this era didn't give out petty points like they do now. This Era is where real wrestling took place. Every point scored in this era was actually fought for. You couldn't win a match with just 1 or 2 points. You had to score at least 3 points to win. No matter if the score was 2 to 1 or 2 to 2, you had to have 3 to win. I miss wrestling in those times.
@@mikeohara5083 we’d have a lot more physical match ups if it was still like this that’s for sure
Push out is a fairly new rule
We used to have a rules near the out of bounds, but they were more subjective. The mats had a “zone” near the edge and if you got close to that the ref would yell “zone red” or “zone blue” depending on your color in that match. If you didn’t try to circle back inside, then you would get hit with a passive call and depending on the year, that could result in you going into the par tare position. Similarly, if you weren’t the one in the zone, but you were preventing him from circling back towards the center of the mat, you could be called for passive, because you were preventing action from taking place. You could shoot someone through the zone and that could result in a point or par tare, and to be honest I don’t remember the difference. All I remember is that Angle got away with a lot of shit in his Olympic gold finals. He was doing a good job of trying to circle back in, but that Iranian shot him through the zone many times. To the ref’s credit though , the Iranian wasn’t necessarily trying to take him down, but trying to get a zone call. So, the subjective nature of the old rules definitely had some merit.
It’s been a long time since I’ve recalled a lot of my matches then, but I do recall that those passive calls would add up and could work against you at the end of the match.
@@josephbreza-grappling9459 very well explained, thank you sir.
Look at the number of Headbutts brands does in this match, its unreal. Not a single one was called. He'd have been disqualified in the first 30 seconds in today's standard. Brand never had any technique, Headbutting, elbowing, jamming opponent's fingers, thats all he resorted to, always tried to injure the opponent.
100% offense, all the time. Cross was an extremely defensive wrestler against Brands. That and taking consistent injury time is what won him the series. Both Terry and Tom are underated on their technical skills. Both were good technicians, they were just extremely physical. They were not trying to hurt anyone, just wear their opponents down.
At least Cross went on to win Olympic gold for Team USA. Whoever won that series was more than likely going to be an Olympic Champ that year.
You have no idea what you are talking about. This is exactly what wrestling was like. This is what separated the men from the boys. Look at all past Olympic champs from this era and you will see how hard fought each on was. This sport was brutal. Today's sport is too gentle. They literally changed the sport up to get more of a following because it wasn't popular. I wish you would say that to Brands to his face. He would school you.
@@mikeohara5083 Wrestling is not MMA your dumb dumb, wrestling is all about technique, Not breaking opponents fingers, Apparently you are the one that doesn't know what you are talking about.
@@brandonreichel384100% offense??? really?100% trying to cause injury since Brands had No technique.
I find it interesting that you talk about kendall taking injury time but didn't mention why kendall took the 2 seconds injury time, Brands headbutted him 11 times and tried to move kendall's fingers in directions that fingers are not designed to move into. Also saying if brands had won, he'd have been the olympic champ too, is such an amateurish assumption and kind of silly really. Kendall brought home the Olympic gold & all you are doing is criticizing him and praising Brands which makes me think you are somehow related to Brands. what a shame, you seem so ungrateful.
@ Music Fan. I said at least Cross brought home gold. If you do a little research for yourself, you will see that Terry was the reining World Champ and ranked number one in the World at the time. My comment on either competitor more than likely winning gold was spot on. I like Cross and I respect Cross. I am a true fan of the sport. But, if you ever wrestled and/or coached you would know the difference between offensive and defensive wrestling. You would also know the difference between technique and a brutal/physical style of wrestling and a combination of both. Cross was typically a good technician and extremely slick. Brands took that away from him by being physical in the series. Cross was able to capitalize on Brands aggressiveness and score on defensive points. It was one of the great Olympic Trial series of all time. I did not take anything away from Cross, I only stated facts. You are also right, this is not suppose to be MMA. But, the new rules have made wrestling more soft from a physical standpoint. Wrestling has evolved over the years and it is currently at it's peak technically speaking. Times have changed, but it is a great sport and the history of this sport is what makes it great.