@@tenpoundfortytwo I think for most of us after hearing that is a NO. But does show that the New x3D might actually be a great chip if it tops today's numbers.
I had a feeling the changes to it's front end and l1 cache may specifically help Star Citizen where other games don't see any improvement. This should translate to another small bump in performance for the 9800x3d. I figured you might just skip the 9700x review since it wasn't seeing much improvement in other reviews except for few games here and there. Kudos to you for getting one and testing it for us, as always, you're the ultimate SC performance tester.
@@tenpoundfortytwo Looks like there's a bug in windows where you won't get the best performance out of zen 5 unless you activate and use the administrator account. This doesn't apply to an account with admin privilege's, apparently the administrator account has some elevated privilege's that give better performance. Hardware Unboxed has a video on it that dropped today. Would be interesting to see if you have better results using this same method.
Hey I love your videos but could you make one where you benchmark a few cpus at Lorville for example, the route from bed to the ship spawn temrinals but including the frametime graph? Because I am always interested how the frametimes look like with each cpu, how much they stutter and such :D Maybe also with different Ram speed and sizes
Eh just wait for 10800x3d or whatever the last x3d cpu for am5 platform. Based on reviews so far 9800x3d wont be a big improvement. Hopefully intel will pressure amd to improve their next product.
well, it did a better job than I thought was going to do. I agree just get a 7800x3d or wait to see what they do with the 9800x3d. Perhaps they will surprise us and it will be a nice bump in performance.
Didn't know the 7700x beat the 5800x3d by so much, too bad they couldnt make that jump again with the 9700x. I guess we can expect around another 10-15% with x3d vs 7800 Unless they can stack 3d cache on the whole chip and make us buy 9950x
Would like to know the testing parameters. My 5800X3D/7900 XTX averages around 60FPS going through Area 18 and other cites. Sometimes going higher, and dipping lower, but my over all FPS is well above 60FPS at 4K maxed out settings, except for volumetric clouds set on very high, which does bring things down a little at Orison, but its so worth it to me, as I find Orison so beautiful.
Nice benchmark, Could you please add the memory cache for each CPU in the comparison chart in your next video it will help understand and confirm the why.
going on the fps increase from 7700x to the 9700x we should see about the same from the 7800x3d and the 9800x3d which will make it a little faster a new build option but not an upgrade from a 7800x3d lol maybe the next 10800x3d or 11800x3d what ever they call it I would like to see the 9950x3d ( on both chips ) but not going to happen
Just finished a build using the 9700x and the 7900xt. I'm quite pleased with the performance. Still trying to decide if I want to give any money to Star Citizen. If I have to play at 1080p with this setup then that will be a no.
Have you tried the 9900x or the 9950x ? I like having more processors for productivity workloads but I have heard that they are core parking half the cores in game workloads.
I tested the 7950X3D when it came out, no real noticeable difference in performance from the 7800X3D- core parking seems to be ok in SC, but no guarantees! The 9000X3D's are not too far away so might be worth waiting for those.
@@tenpoundfortytwo specifically I'm looking for the 9900x non 3D as an upgrade from my 5900x if the CPU goes into park mode from what i have read this effectively means I will have a 6 core processor for the game ? So would it be worth looking 5950x. The extra cache is not as important. I need the game to function better than my 5900x and i need the extra cores for code compile, video work and some photography work i do. Have you actually tested either of these 2 ? I did see a video from DaPoets about these but there was no in game FPS or information about stutters.
This one shows how the 5800X3D compares to the 5900X: ua-cam.com/video/XLVy7AXf83E/v-deo.html You can then use the 5800X3D results in the 9700X video to work out roughly the increases from your 5900X. I wouldn't consider the 5950X, SC would basically perform the same as your 5900X. I don't believe the 9000 series sufferers from major issues with core parking (the 7900X3D and 7950X3D did because one of the ccd's had vcache and the other didn't, but I think AMD have improved that since launch). 9900X (or even 7900X) seems like it would be a good option if you've got productivity stuff to do. But obviously a fairly pricey upgrade once you've factored in mb and ram!
Thank you, I really value the work you do and I hope people appreciate it. I have a lowly i5-10400 and I'm currently happy, but someday I will get a 7800x3d to experience the verse I've always dreamed of. Thanks again.
I went to go purchase the 9950X on the 16th of Aug from OCUK but it's been out of stock ever since that day. I'm still waiting for them even now, to get more stock so my order can be fulfilled. Apparently they have no ETA either.
Hey TenPound, I finally was able to build myself a new computer very recently upgrading from a machine I built in 2012 (yeah, I know!). Going by your testing and recommendations it's a 5800x3d with a 4060gtx and 32gb of 4000mts memory and I am VERY HAPPY with it. I'm a 1k res guy and so far the game has been running amazingly well. I do have a question though, I constantly hear about the SC's instability and bugs and granted I've only been playing for about 30-40 hours, but my play has been, well, completely bug free. For a moment one time when an elevator door opened there was nothing but a black void but I just went to different floor, then back to where I wanted and everything as fine. I do have a very fast internet connection, is it that plus a purpose-built SC machine that is making so few bugs pop up? I've just been hearing so many complaints about bugs for years now, am I perhaps just lucky and I need to shut my stupid face about it and thank the gods who have blessed me? Anyways, thanks man! This computer is making this Canadian very very happy!
@@tenpoundfortytwo I’ve paired it with the 4070 super aero 12gb oc. Apparently they pair well and can do 4K gaming. Watched your video about 4K and needing a 4080 but my wallet quickly slapped that idea out my head 🤣
I wonder if its worth running star citizen at 1440p with DLDSR ( 1.78x or 2.25x) to 4k or so and then dlss, it seems to introduce a lot of ghosting, especially on bright surface compared to nights sky
personally i think its a windows 11 issue with zen 5 chips being a new architecture and windows not fully supporting it yet . similar with alder lake when it launched, it sucked until they fixed core parking.
@@tenpoundfortytwo I want to know what the frame rates are at those resolutions since those are the resolutions I'll be playing at. Is that so hard to understand?
@@James-w5h3c that's quite a large job! Testing of a CPU is normally done at 1080p, it's a bit pointless to test a 1440p and 4k, because you're then testing the GPU. What GPU do you have? I can tell you that with a 4080 in the cities you'll average the same at 1440p and just a bit less at 4k. You can check out the 4080 video if you want to see how that performs at different resolutions: ua-cam.com/video/ABCgRD5FxG4/v-deo.html And this one explores the relationship between CPU and GPU bottlenecks at 1440p and 4k: ua-cam.com/video/vvaT_pbpq9g/v-deo.html
@@tenpoundfortytwo Don't have a dedicated GPU just yet. Console gamer building out a new game PC. Currently running the PC off the iGPU while I save for a dGPU. Hoping that the 8700xt/8800xt, whatever they chose to call it, will come out this year. 4080 performance, including RT, at a 500-600 dollar price point is would be great if true. If not then I'll likely be settling for a 7900xt.
Always been that disabling SMT decreases performance in some game & increases in others. Also enabling PBO is the same result here as seen elsewhere, giving a few percent bump in performance in exchange for a much higher power draw. It's not really worth it IMO but that's an individual call. Me, I'd rather undervolt my CPU to get the same minor uplift for less power.
Hi, do you think i can upgrade my cpu now, i have a ryzen 5 5600 or i just wait more for update ingame like with the on going vulkan tech in game? Also for the another game not only for star citizen.
Holy sh*t, you've got one? Damn... I want one too 😁 So, the 9700X beats everything from before, including the 5800X3D.... I don't think I should upgrade to 5800X3D and jump straight to AM5 and 9000th series.
If the price difference between Ryzen 7 7700x and 9700x is less than $20, the 9700x is the best option ? (the 7700x is €314 and the 9700x is €330 in france)
I ordered the 9700X to replace my 10 years old i7 5820K (believe it or not, i can feel is limitation in gaming only since 2 years). What lead me to this choice is the fact that like a vast portion of the player base i have switched on a higher resolution years ago, so while gaming the difference between the 7800X3D and the 9700X will be absolutly marginal, if it exist (even in 1080p it vastly depend of the game). The other factor is of course the price, i don't live in USA so the 7800X3D was never as low as i have seen it on US market, never, and now the price have skyrocketed and will not going down, after all why it would be ? The demand is high and the stock will only diminish to be gradually replaced by the 9800X3D (who are overpriced too). So for me, taking the 9700X to half of the price of those CPU was the right choice i think, it would allow me to put more bucks in the GPU and i hope it will last another 8 years or more 👍
9950X wouldn't be any better really. If you are prepared to tune/overclock those intel chips (and get fast memory), you can get some impressive performance out of them. If you just want to buy something and then play, the 7800X3D/9800X3D are the best options.
@@tenpoundfortytwo 9800X3D is impossible to find, and a 1 trick pony, I also do 3D work rendering... the problem with my I913900KS setup is it constantly crashes with 128GB... it only runs stable with 64GB... was hoping 9950X would be the best solution - thanks for the help
5800X3D can no longer be purchased, because it is no longer available. So the most you can buy on the AM4 platform is the 5700X3D. From these tests the 9700X is on par with the 7800X3D in this game. Considering the price of the entire platform, it makes sense to buy the 9700X and unlock it at 105W. Turn on PBO and pair it with 6400MHz 2x16GB memory. If you can set that memory to CL30 6400MHz, even better. It is very important that the motherboard has only two slots for ram memory.
People are comparing 9700X (65W) to 7700X (105W), but a more fair comparison would be 7700 (65W). I bet AMD has something hotter (105W) in the pipeline that will fill the gap between 9700X and 9800X3D.
Why are your fps what I see most players getting, and they are always up and down with how the game is behaving for me, but other SC hardware “reviewers” always claim double to triple the fps you claim as the average? Some don’t claim over clocking but even if they did, there is no way OCing a modern cpu can have THAT big an effect. I watch professional hardware reviewers and they don’t get nearly that much more out of overclocking. And they’ll do it to the point of melting the cpu. I’m just saying, you’re the only one I trust!
There is a windows bug that causes about a 10 fps loss for ryzen, need to test in administrator account, not user with admin. Windows are going to roll out a fix in the near future.
I am surprised by your cpu choice. Most pc builder go for bang for a buck last 5 years+ preferably 10 years in my generation but it seems you are confident with your choice. 9700 is what 6 or 8 cores and you don't even question x3d of same generation. I assume this video was made before 97xx x3d on the market? The real question is, will this cpu be enough with gameglass, streamdeck, tobii, 4k possi ly 120fps when the game fully releases. I am pretty sure that's the elephant in the room.
Zen 5%. Literally. I'm not excited at all for the upcoming 9800X3D which will very likely only yield another 2-5% on top of the 7800X3D, lol. Intel Arrow Lake being faster than both Zen4 X3D and Zen5 X3D now sounds very plausible. AMD put themselves in a weak spot with their 9000 series.
Your first two slides show 20% more Minimum FPS, which is absolutely huge my friend. the 9700x is a great option for Star citizens and far better than a 7700x, even beating the 7800x3d for minimums. The only problem is the price point.
That's if you can find one. 7800X3D's are sold out, let alone the 9800X3D. I accidentally got the 7900X mistaking it for the 9700X yesterday, so since I have yet to install it I'm definitely switching it out for the 9700X, which is thankfully in stock.
The point of testing 1080p is to give you the maximum FPS that processor can generate. Check out GPU reviews to get what the max frame rate would be at 1440.
@@jackinthebox301 i know that, but nobody plays in that resolution. Why not have an actual real game scenario next to it? If you are not playing in 1080p its purely to show what the cou is capable of, not an actual gaming scenario
@@blublublabla4545 because this isn’t about an actual gaming scenario necessarily. This is about the max FPS the processor can push. Think of it like the theoretical maximum. Oh and 1080p is still the resolution used by the majority of pc gamers. So you’re wrong there.
@@jackinthebox301cool! Now i need just to wait for new gpu to show up to check what real fps i can gain just by swapping cpu. Jesus... Its always such a mental gimnastic to get simple info.
@@Cin3q lol dude. Do you even hear yourself? How hard is it for you to hold on to two pieces of information? So you look up CPU performance on a game and it says 100fps at 1080p. Next you look up your GPU performance at 1440p; which is 65fps. What do you think the FPS you’re going to get will be?
Anyone planning on buying one of these?
maybe if 9700x3D released
hell nah, zen 5%
@@tenpoundfortytwo I think for most of us after hearing that is a NO.
But does show that the New x3D might actually be a great chip if it tops today's numbers.
I'm still sitting pretty with my 12700k
@@randymorris5296 in hindsight, a very wise choice on the intel side!
I had a feeling the changes to it's front end and l1 cache may specifically help Star Citizen where other games don't see any improvement. This should translate to another small bump in performance for the 9800x3d. I figured you might just skip the 9700x review since it wasn't seeing much improvement in other reviews except for few games here and there. Kudos to you for getting one and testing it for us, as always, you're the ultimate SC performance tester.
Yeah I thought i'd like to see how it performed, but the 9800X3d should be much more exciting! Thanks for the kind words!
@@tenpoundfortytwo Looks like there's a bug in windows where you won't get the best performance out of zen 5 unless you activate and use the administrator account. This doesn't apply to an account with admin privilege's, apparently the administrator account has some elevated privilege's that give better performance. Hardware Unboxed has a video on it that dropped today. Would be interesting to see if you have better results using this same method.
Nicely done dude. Great information as always. Hope you enjoyed your holiday o7
Thanks!
Thanks for the comparison of CPUs.
No problem!
im planning to stay on my 7800x3d
me too. beast value chip
Won't be powerful enough
@hawky2k215 nope few years
@hawky2k215 yea but it's below par in couple years
@hawky2k215 nope
Hey I love your videos but could you make one where you benchmark a few cpus at Lorville for example, the route from bed to the ship spawn temrinals but including the frametime graph? Because I am always interested how the frametimes look like with each cpu, how much they stutter and such :D Maybe also with different Ram speed and sizes
Yeah I occasionally do frame time graphs, but yeah i should show a proper look at these cpu's!
Great work. I love the way you highlight the CPU you're talking about on the graph.
Thanks, yeah trying to get better at that sort of thing!
I bought a 5800x *right* before the 5800x3d came out, so maybe once the 9800x3d comes out I'll upgrade to that or the 7800x3d.
Eh just wait for 10800x3d or whatever the last x3d cpu for am5 platform. Based on reviews so far 9800x3d wont be a big improvement. Hopefully intel will pressure amd to improve their next product.
That’s exactly what I am going to do today.
Everyone wants one, out of stock!
well,
it did a better job than I thought was going to do. I agree just get a 7800x3d or wait to see what they do with the 9800x3d. Perhaps they will surprise us and it will be a nice bump in performance.
I knew I'd be right about the next vid. Keep up the great work 👍
I have this cpu, and I can definitely see a in game difference I approve
CIG: hey guys, instead of optimizing the game, can we just wait several years for the latest top of the line CPU to run our game at 50 fps
Didn't know the 7700x beat the 5800x3d by so much, too bad they couldnt make that jump again with the 9700x. I guess we can expect around another 10-15% with x3d vs 7800
Unless they can stack 3d cache on the whole chip and make us buy 9950x
Would like to know the testing parameters. My 5800X3D/7900 XTX averages around 60FPS going through Area 18 and other cites. Sometimes going higher, and dipping lower, but my over all FPS is well above 60FPS at 4K maxed out settings, except for volumetric clouds set on very high, which does bring things down a little at Orison, but its so worth it to me, as I find Orison so beautiful.
Nice benchmark, Could you please add the memory cache for each CPU in the comparison chart in your next video it will help understand and confirm the why.
It would be interesting to see if more cores bring more benefits than a fast cache? How would the 9950X compare??
going on the fps increase from 7700x to the 9700x we should see about the same from the 7800x3d and the 9800x3d which will make it a little faster a new build option but not an upgrade from a 7800x3d lol maybe the next 10800x3d or 11800x3d what ever they call it I would like to see the 9950x3d ( on both chips ) but not going to happen
Just finished a build using the 9700x and the 7900xt. I'm quite pleased with the performance. Still trying to decide if I want to give any money to Star Citizen. If I have to play at 1080p with this setup then that will be a no.
Should be able to push 4K with FSR on with the 7900XT! I'd wait for the next free flight to try the game for free if you're not sure!
@@tenpoundfortytwo Sounds like a plan.
Have you tried the 9900x or the 9950x ? I like having more processors for productivity workloads but I have heard that they are core parking half the cores in game workloads.
I tested the 7950X3D when it came out, no real noticeable difference in performance from the 7800X3D- core parking seems to be ok in SC, but no guarantees! The 9000X3D's are not too far away so might be worth waiting for those.
@@tenpoundfortytwo specifically I'm looking for the 9900x non 3D as an upgrade from my 5900x if the CPU goes into park mode from what i have read this effectively means I will have a 6 core processor for the game ? So would it be worth looking 5950x. The extra cache is not as important. I need the game to function better than my 5900x and i need the extra cores for code compile, video work and some photography work i do.
Have you actually tested either of these 2 ? I did see a video from DaPoets about these but there was no in game FPS or information about stutters.
This one shows how the 5800X3D compares to the 5900X: ua-cam.com/video/XLVy7AXf83E/v-deo.html
You can then use the 5800X3D results in the 9700X video to work out roughly the increases from your 5900X.
I wouldn't consider the 5950X, SC would basically perform the same as your 5900X.
I don't believe the 9000 series sufferers from major issues with core parking (the 7900X3D and 7950X3D did because one of the ccd's had vcache and the other didn't, but I think AMD have improved that since launch).
9900X (or even 7900X) seems like it would be a good option if you've got productivity stuff to do. But obviously a fairly pricey upgrade once you've factored in mb and ram!
Thank you, I really value the work you do and I hope people appreciate it. I have a lowly i5-10400 and I'm currently happy, but someday I will get a 7800x3d to experience the verse I've always dreamed of. Thanks again.
Mmm, kinda had a slight idea that was going to be the case with all the Discord discussions.
Yeah unfortunately this CPU isn't really anything amazing!
Im on a 5800x3D and I am itching to upgrade. I can't wait to see the 9800x3Ds performance.
Cheers mate
I went to go purchase the 9950X on the 16th of Aug from OCUK but it's been out of stock ever since that day. I'm still waiting for them even now, to get more stock so my order can be fulfilled. Apparently they have no ETA either.
Hey TenPound, I finally was able to build myself a new computer very recently upgrading from a machine I built in 2012 (yeah, I know!). Going by your testing and recommendations it's a 5800x3d with a 4060gtx and 32gb of 4000mts memory and I am VERY HAPPY with it. I'm a 1k res guy and so far the game has been running amazingly well. I do have a question though, I constantly hear about the SC's instability and bugs and granted I've only been playing for about 30-40 hours, but my play has been, well, completely bug free. For a moment one time when an elevator door opened there was nothing but a black void but I just went to different floor, then back to where I wanted and everything as fine. I do have a very fast internet connection, is it that plus a purpose-built SC machine that is making so few bugs pop up? I've just been hearing so many complaints about bugs for years now, am I perhaps just lucky and I need to shut my stupid face about it and thank the gods who have blessed me? Anyways, thanks man! This computer is making this Canadian very very happy!
WEEOO, here we go!
the inclusion of the 3600, 5600, and 5800X3D on these charts was a very wise decision. Great stuff.
the newer x3ds coming are the one to watch
I’ll be excited for the 9800x3d
Some manual OC ? heard you can really push it
Yeah I might try to push it further, but I don't think there will be much more performance to be had!
My recent upgrade from a 10700k to 7800x3d gave me almost double the frames in Area 18.
Big upgrade!
Saw this video and got real worried! Just ordered my new pc with a 7800x3d
You're good!
@@tenpoundfortytwo I’ve paired it with the 4070 super aero 12gb oc. Apparently they pair well and can do 4K gaming. Watched your video about 4K and needing a 4080 but my wallet quickly slapped that idea out my head 🤣
I wonder if its worth running star citizen at 1440p with DLDSR ( 1.78x or 2.25x) to 4k or so and then dlss, it seems to introduce a lot of ghosting, especially on bright surface compared to nights sky
personally i think its a windows 11 issue with zen 5 chips being a new architecture and windows not fully supporting it yet . similar with alder lake when it launched, it sucked until they fixed core parking.
any chance you can review the 7900x3d for star citizen?
I would still like to know how these CPUs stack up at 1440p & 4k.
CPU's will be in the same order at different resolutions- you are testing the GPU once you start to play at 1440p and 4k
@@tenpoundfortytwo I want to know what the frame rates are at those resolutions since those are the resolutions I'll be playing at. Is that so hard to understand?
@@James-w5h3c that's quite a large job! Testing of a CPU is normally done at 1080p, it's a bit pointless to test a 1440p and 4k, because you're then testing the GPU. What GPU do you have?
I can tell you that with a 4080 in the cities you'll average the same at 1440p and just a bit less at 4k. You can check out the 4080 video if you want to see how that performs at different resolutions: ua-cam.com/video/ABCgRD5FxG4/v-deo.html
And this one explores the relationship between CPU and GPU bottlenecks at 1440p and 4k: ua-cam.com/video/vvaT_pbpq9g/v-deo.html
@@tenpoundfortytwo Don't have a dedicated GPU just yet. Console gamer building out a new game PC. Currently running the PC off the iGPU while I save for a dGPU. Hoping that the 8700xt/8800xt, whatever they chose to call it, will come out this year. 4080 performance, including RT, at a 500-600 dollar price point is would be great if true. If not then I'll likely be settling for a 7900xt.
Can't wait to see the 9800x3d
Same, hopefully it doesn't take too long to arrive!
Always been that disabling SMT decreases performance in some game & increases in others. Also enabling PBO is the same result here as seen elsewhere, giving a few percent bump in performance in exchange for a much higher power draw. It's not really worth it IMO but that's an individual call. Me, I'd rather undervolt my CPU to get the same minor uplift for less power.
Hi, do you think i can upgrade my cpu now, i have a ryzen 5 5600 or i just wait more for update ingame like with the on going vulkan tech in game?
Also for the another game not only for star citizen.
"all our dreams .... and our nightmares" 😂
Holy sh*t, you've got one? Damn... I want one too 😁
So, the 9700X beats everything from before, including the 5800X3D.... I don't think I should upgrade to 5800X3D and jump straight to AM5 and 9000th series.
Yep managed to get one! Ah I don't know, upgrading to am5 will cost a lot more than the 5800X3D in total!
7800x3D is still BEST gaming CPU
The 9700X needs some tweaks in order to perform due to misconfiguration AMD did, also 6400 ddr5 ram would help a lot
What is with the 7950X3D ? have you tested this CPU?
I tested one when it first came out- performs pretty much the same as the 7800x3d!
If the price difference between Ryzen 7 7700x and 9700x is less than $20, the 9700x is the best option ? (the 7700x is €314 and the 9700x is €330 in france)
go for Ryzen 7 7800X3D, for 9700X price, it will be same just like 7800X3D because tax and store extra price
I ordered the 9700X to replace my 10 years old i7 5820K (believe it or not, i can feel is limitation in gaming only since 2 years).
What lead me to this choice is the fact that like a vast portion of the player base i have switched on a higher resolution years ago, so while gaming the difference between the 7800X3D and the 9700X will be absolutly marginal, if it exist (even in 1080p it vastly depend of the game).
The other factor is of course the price, i don't live in USA so the 7800X3D was never as low as i have seen it on US market, never, and now the price have skyrocketed and will not going down, after all why it would be ? The demand is high and the stock will only diminish to be gradually replaced by the 9800X3D (who are overpriced too).
So for me, taking the 9700X to half of the price of those CPU was the right choice i think, it would allow me to put more bucks in the GPU and i hope it will last another 8 years or more 👍
Man I did the exact same thing just today, do you have any update on performance? I really look forward to see what this cpu can do
what about the 9950X or Intel 13900/14900KS? are they better ?
9950X wouldn't be any better really. If you are prepared to tune/overclock those intel chips (and get fast memory), you can get some impressive performance out of them. If you just want to buy something and then play, the 7800X3D/9800X3D are the best options.
@@tenpoundfortytwo 9800X3D is impossible to find, and a 1 trick pony, I also do 3D work rendering... the problem with my I913900KS setup is it constantly crashes with 128GB... it only runs stable with 64GB... was hoping 9950X would be the best solution - thanks for the help
Wait - my Ryzen 9 7950X£D doesn't even make the list - this feels bad...
I sold mine! Basically the same as the 7800X3D!
Still sitting pretty with the 7800x3d 🤙
5800X3D can no longer be purchased, because it is no longer available. So the most you can buy on the AM4 platform is the 5700X3D.
From these tests the 9700X is on par with the 7800X3D in this game.
Considering the price of the entire platform, it makes sense to buy the 9700X and unlock it at 105W. Turn on PBO and pair it with 6400MHz 2x16GB memory.
If you can set that memory to CL30 6400MHz, even better. It is very important that the motherboard has only two slots for ram memory.
Amd will increase the TDP from 64 to 105 so do the tests again
did you see hardware unboxed, you gain fps by running W11 24H2 build 26100, maybe more increase there to gain
Yep, planning to do some testing at some point!
People are comparing 9700X (65W) to 7700X (105W), but a more fair comparison would be 7700 (65W). I bet AMD has something hotter (105W) in the pipeline that will fill the gap between 9700X and 9800X3D.
Why are your fps what I see most players getting, and they are always up and down with how the game is behaving for me, but other SC hardware “reviewers” always claim double to triple the fps you claim as the average?
Some don’t claim over clocking but even if they did, there is no way OCing a modern cpu can have THAT big an effect. I watch professional hardware reviewers and they don’t get nearly that much more out of overclocking. And they’ll do it to the point of melting the cpu.
I’m just saying, you’re the only one I trust!
There is a windows bug that causes about a 10 fps loss for ryzen, need to test in administrator account, not user with admin. Windows are going to roll out a fix in the near future.
Yeah I just watch the HUB video- very interesting, hopefully the fix will roll out soon!
I am surprised by your cpu choice.
Most pc builder go for bang for a buck last 5 years+ preferably 10 years in my generation but it seems you are confident with your choice. 9700 is what 6 or 8 cores and you don't even question x3d of same generation. I assume this video was made before 97xx x3d on the market?
The real question is, will this cpu be enough with gameglass, streamdeck, tobii, 4k possi ly 120fps when the game fully releases. I am pretty sure that's the elephant in the room.
i got 9700x and 100% usage ingame, dam game id 100% problems id this or that!
Zen 5%. Literally. I'm not excited at all for the upcoming 9800X3D which will very likely only yield another 2-5% on top of the 7800X3D, lol. Intel Arrow Lake being faster than both Zen4 X3D and Zen5 X3D now sounds very plausible. AMD put themselves in a weak spot with their 9000 series.
Your first two slides show 20% more Minimum FPS, which is absolutely huge my friend. the 9700x is a great option for Star citizens and far better than a 7700x, even beating the 7800x3d for minimums. The only problem is the price point.
What??? The 1% low improvements between the 7700X and 9700X in the first two slides was 8% at best.
I am sure people already know this by now but in case people don't know, the 9800X3D is the king of gaming CPU's at the moment.
That's if you can find one. 7800X3D's are sold out, let alone the 9800X3D.
I accidentally got the 7900X mistaking it for the 9700X yesterday, so since I have yet to install it I'm definitely switching it out for the 9700X, which is thankfully in stock.
@@jacobbaumgardner3406 Sorry I mean to say that it will be even more dificult when the 9950's come out. :P
Are people really playing Star Citizen at 1080p?
A lot more than you might think!
No 1440p?? Yes it will put the CPU's even closer but who plays in 1080p today?
The point of testing 1080p is to give you the maximum FPS that processor can generate. Check out GPU reviews to get what the max frame rate would be at 1440.
@@jackinthebox301 i know that, but nobody plays in that resolution. Why not have an actual real game scenario next to it? If you are not playing in 1080p its purely to show what the cou is capable of, not an actual gaming scenario
@@blublublabla4545 because this isn’t about an actual gaming scenario necessarily. This is about the max FPS the processor can push. Think of it like the theoretical maximum.
Oh and 1080p is still the resolution used by the majority of pc gamers. So you’re wrong there.
@@jackinthebox301cool! Now i need just to wait for new gpu to show up to check what real fps i can gain just by swapping cpu. Jesus... Its always such a mental gimnastic to get simple info.
@@Cin3q lol dude. Do you even hear yourself? How hard is it for you to hold on to two pieces of information?
So you look up CPU performance on a game and it says 100fps at 1080p. Next you look up your GPU performance at 1440p; which is 65fps. What do you think the FPS you’re going to get will be?
first
9700x perform better on linux