Japanese idol culture, man... It's still going strong. Sure 70% of the blame goes to the weird fans, but the idol companies and idols themselves market it that way.
@@Lemonidas_of_Sourta i actually think south korea is worse and k netziens are truly scary these days. Multiple people have committed suicide as a result of online harassment.
I think another factor was that Kyoto Animation just didn't really do long series back then. Two seasons and a movie was more than pretty much all their other projects from that era got. This doesn't really seem to be the case anymore now that we're getting things like Sound Euphonium Season 3, so I could definitely see them returning to Haruhi when they have the option to running through to an ending.
@@solitaregames i'm sorry, i don't understand how your comment connects to everything else in this video. for the sake of everyone who is interested but don't have enough information about it, can you please elaborate further?
I hope so, but I’ve heard the possibility of Kyoani doing so is slim to non-existent leaning towards the latter. Supposedly, that’s why Satelight studio handled the Nagato Yuki spinoff in 2015. So, even when the spinoff was done, it wasn’t done through Kyoani. They don’t like adapting content they don’t own themselves anymore. Haruhi is one of those series. Kyoani is probably done with Haruhi.
Ye it‘s had that effect on me as well. By the time I started it, I‘d watched a handful of non-mainstream series already (Secret of Haruka Nogizaka, Rosario + Vampire, Vampire Knight) but this one… yeah, tbh the Yukai dance was the reason I started it but this rly opened me up to SoL as a genre. I‘d joined a community on FB where ppl mentioned all the Lucky Star references and so that was the next one I checked out. What a time! Not that it‘s bad now tho
Poor Bassist xD Feels bad for Aya Hirano, she's free to have relationship with whoever she wants, it's her life. Glad to see she's happy now Wonder if we will have season 3 if this didn't get out of hands
Can you plese tell me where I can find that info cause I would love it to be true, but I searched and cant find it... was it an afterword of volume 12 of the novel?
Oh shit yeah, that one, the bullying one. Everyone involved in the bullying basically just got a slap on the wrist, hell even the master mind still got off scotsfree(he's still have the job as anime director, even now, he's the one who directed mushoku tensei anime). The Novel's Author however, who atleast supposed to be the collateral damage, become the casualty. The Novel flopped, making it to have rushed ending (from what i heard). Even the other novel that the author made is flopped after that scandal, i heard the author also has been stopped writing a few years later after that.
I can bring up Act-Age as another example, though be warned it will contain mention of SA. So, Act-Age was somehow able to compete with MHA and JJK as a manga despite not being a shonen but being published in the same magazine as them. However, it was cancelled after the author committed SA against two schoolgirls, which also caused its planned adaptations to be scrapped before they could even be made as the other people involved in Act-Age, such as the illustrator, didn't want to traumatize the victims by continuing the entire series
Nothing beats back then watching the endless eight arc when it was happening and every time a new episode came out, it was the same and everyone freaking the hell out. I actually liked that they did this, it showed what Nagato was going through, seeing the same thing over and over again, even tho for her, it was billions of times. If we freaked out over 8 episodes, now imagine if it was all the time.
For context this was the time period when generally streaming services for anime didn't exist, what you got are pirate sites. Back in that era receiving a file titled episode 4 may as well had been episode 3. Now you got the Endless Eight arc. It was an international "Am I having Alzheimer's?" moment.
I love those episodes - but then while I read the light novels I never watched the anime until I could just buy the set on disc. It's truly impressive that the animators took care to never show us exactly the same thing twice, to the extent of designing nine sets of clothing for everybody that all looks like things they specifically would wear.
I friggin loved looking at forums during this period. Watching people say oh look they're in front of store called ENDLESS and all the clothes were in stacks of 8.
Aya Hirono was a victim of something all too common in idol culture. A perceived parasocial relationship with the audience that led to some of the most delusional shit possible.
While this is true, it's come out much later that she was a toxic bitch in her band career. This video observes her downfall from the perspective of the anime industry and her anime fandom, but the backlash against her originally came from her music fans, and those are more mature normies who didn't perceive her as an idol at the time. It just happened that the music fandom's beef with her got way amplified in the far more obsessive anime community.
I'll never forget the video I saw back then of this one ex-fan of hers coldly staring into his camera as he destroyed a Haruhi figurine while repeating "Kuso bichi" over and over. It was the epitome of unhinged and just served as another great reason why the otaku lifestyle is not something to be celebrated and encouraged.
It works both ways. If you decide to literally SELL that relationship to mentally ill losers you are then beholden to that dynamic. You can't have your cake & eat it maybe just have a normal voice acting career like everyone else idk!
Aye Hirano may not appear as a new main character in anime series but she is still kicking and willing to appear her old iconic characters. It is confirmed that she will be back as Lucy in Fairy Tail 100 year quest anime. Also her theater performance as Makima is such as badass.
@@baltakateishes still doing plenty of voice acting, mainly for mobile games in the last few years. she is the va for beatrix and alexiel in granblue fantasy and botan in dragalia lost. there are others but i cant name them off the top of my head since i dont play them. gbf is my main. i still play that everyday
@@grandlancercuchulainn1509 Respect? No. Popular? The height of her popularity has passed. Mainstream. She's still a well known name, no doubt, but she's not necessarily a headliner like she was. The sex scandal very much derailed her career.
Something not said here is that Aya Hirano herself was quite confrontational way before the scandal. At the time she was already planning to quit VA work and make it big as an actress, which means she... wasn't afraid of telling her fans off even for stupid stuff like the "Aya Style". By the time the bassist scandal happened, she had already burned bridges with the anime community. The reason why they aren't being adapted is simple, and I say this as someone who was a big fan of Haruhi back in the day, it's no longer relevant. This LN opened the floodgates for LN adaptations, of which there were extremely few before. Said LNs capitalized on part of the winning formula Haruhi pioneered, which is the wish fulfillment aspect to such a disgusting degree that right now, Haruhi is nothing special. Every other manga or LN adaptation is about some average school kid who has weird or magical people interested in him for some dumb reason. It was a product of its time. You had to be there to experience the craze and how special it was. A reboot or an attempt to adapt the other volumes would only highlight the issues nobody wanted to see at the time. Because right now they're rampant in the industry to the point they're no longer seen as a plus.
True. The same thing when I bust a nut for the first time and thought it was most amazing shit ever happened but after the 5th time, 50th time, the 100th time, it was never the same experience I felt when I bust a nut for the first time
Literally all Aya said regarding her career was that she hadn't gone into VA work planning to make it a permanent thing, and those "burned bridges" were with creepy otaku who'd formed obsessive parasocial relationships with her and couldn't handle learning that the voice of their precious goddess Haruhi actually fucks.
Just like Madoka Magica and the Monogatari series. They used to dominate anime forums and conventions, not so much now. Attack on Titan, Demon Slayer, even Evangelion now that's actually over will eventually go the same way.
Watching Haruhi and then watching lucky star was one of the best combo because of how big Haruhi influences on lucky star and how it make you feel you have a friend in that fandom too
Ah yes, I belong to this generation. Such iconic non-mainstream animes like: Chrno Crusade, Gunslinger Girls, Rozen Maiden, School Rumble, Girls Bravo, DearS, Galaxy Angels, Ergo Proxy, Seto no Hanayome I guess it's time to rewatch those after such a long time
Suzumiya Haruhi is the anime that turned me from any old kid who watches Japanese cartoons on Saturdays into an anime fan, this and Code Geass (Yes I know, I'm an Anime boomer).
@@OnigoroshiZero hey, I watch Haruhi first and I must say it is great but both are completely different. one had so many characters but managed to create one of the most loved protagonist of all time and the other limit itself while still managed to be a masterpiece
@@OnigoroshiZero Haruhi Suzumiya was the OG Gintama, apart from Lucky Star of course which was voiced by the very same VA's. No one is comparing Code Geass with anything, OP is merely placing Haruhi on the same ranks/greatness as the other GOAT animes that was released the same generation. Don't over-react and touch grass 😂😂
Man- I started getting super into anime when Haruhi was at its peak. Every anime dance vid included Hare Hare Yukai. At cons, at least 5 people were cosplaying Haruhi or wearing the uniform. I also swear that it was Haruhi that popularized putting 2000s anime characters into bunny girl outfits. And the amount of hype surrounding the Disappearance movie had to be seen to be believed. Even ignoring that- the anime itself was beautful. At that time, there weren't a lot of studios that could deliver the consistent quality KyoAni did (and continues to do). Personally? I hated Haruhi (the character.) She drove me nuts. I know that's the point and part of the story is to see her get better thanks to Kyon. But there was only so much I could do to tolerate her. I mostly enjoyed the visuals and watched purely for the animation. Now it's crazy. I swear to younger anime fans that Haruhi was THE Queen of Anime for a long time in the 2000s. But a majority of them have seen neither her nor Hare Hare Yukai. Between that and people forgetting Lucky Star, it can make me feel like I lived a fever dream in the 2000s.
Haruhi was so iconic, I used to own multiple Haruhi figures (some of my first anime figures ever!), a DVD, and I even got my parents to buy me a Haruhi novel from abroad. The 2000s and early 2010s were so good for anime.
We're not gaslighting you! It fizzled out tremendously after 2010. The stuff that it did when it came out was fresh but looking back years later it doesn't hold up as well. New fans aren't going back to it and discussions about this anime don't really extend passed how popular it is. With the limited source material and it not being completed, there's not much to talk about the series. If the series were to get more material though it would definitely blow up again.
It was partly huge because it got to be the first exposure one generation got to a lot of ideas that aren't at all new but that you don't normally find all at once in the same place.
Because it was never that big. I've been watching anime since late 90s without missing a season. I started this when it first came out, and watched 6-7 episodes. Then I dropped it, and barely even heard about it since then, and I've been in dozens of forums related to anime and manga in the last 25 years. You should have been there in 2008 when Code Geass ended, Haruhi can't even begin to compare to what Code Geass did to the community for months.
4:54 - Seeing this brings new context to that one season of Aggretsuko... ...not to mention the currently airing series "The many sides of voice actor radio."
I don't think people realize how big Haruhi Suzuniya was back then during thr 2006-2009 anime era. Up to this day, me and my friends still joke about that endless 8 bullshit we had to survivr watching. "You're a real dude if you survive endless 8"
Seriously, The Clowns sending Death threats were never fans. No real fan would send death threats over Someone finding some happiness with another person.
You say that, but behaviour like this is depressingly common amongst intense fandoms in the idol industries not just in Japan but also in Korea and China too. It's why No Dating rules are so prevalent because a lot of companies not only acknowledge this kind of behaviour amongst fans, but also run with it and monopolize it, marketing this image of perpetual "purity" and faux "obtain-ability" amongst their idols by banning them from dating, which in turn fosters much more intense (and financially lucrative) parasocial relationships between the fans and their idols. The industry is really flippant and ruthless because as much as these companies and fandoms will expect an idol to sacrifice their dating life, education, health and more for them under intense grueling schedules, they're incredibly superficial and youth-obsessed and will be just as liable to ditch an idol because they gained a miniscule amount of weight, turned a year too "old" (with "old" being potent deemed anything mid-laye 20s) or changed their haircut to something fans didn't like. So it is hardly like even if you do your utmost to live like the most perfect idol you will experience a long & loyal career (far from it).
Also Disappearance of Nagato Yuki is Canon Because that's where Alien Yuki traded places with Normal Yuki when she got sick after the Mountain Blizzard Mystery time travel Arc (Where Kyon had to save himself from getting stabbed in Disappearance of Haruhi the movie)
Endless Eight was what killed it for me (and many others). They dropped the ball super hard. They had the biggest hit of the industry in their hands, everybody was waiting for the second season and 8 out of the 14 episodes ended up being basically the same. It should've been a two or a three-parter at most.
yep. I agree, no new light novels helped kill it, but what really did the series in was endless 8. By the time endless 8 had finished all hype for haruhi was gone. even the movie, as fantastic as it was, couldn't rekindle the hype. the problem was most fans saw endless 8 as Kyoani giving the finger to the fans. Basically there was a feeling in the anime fandom that kyoani was sorta forced into a season 2, and they had shown as a studio a tremendous reluctance to season 2s thanks to the flop that was Full Metal Panic! season 2. there was a feeling that Kadokawa had sorta forced their hand and was part of the reason why Kyoani stopped adopting other publishers works (and created their own in house publisher). as a result of the resentment kyoani felt for doing season 2, they sorta gave everyone a giant middle finger with endless 8. and as a result they tanked the series themselves just to say fuck you to kodakawa.
@@FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr I know who worked on what season of FMP. fumoffu was a full cour of content. season 2 was another cour of content. the reception for fumoffu was much much better then it was for season 2.
It's funny, I never seen the anime, but that character was everywhere. Like they'd have pics of her all over cons, she'd be on the cover of anime mags or your con badge, lots of cosplayers, clips of her show on AMVs, all of that. The internet wasn't what it is today where if I see images of Uzaki-Chan popping up at cons without ever hearing about her and I could easily google her to see what series she's from.
I think part of the success was the fact that they had Kyoto animation making the series. The story really benefited from the studio's care with the source material. I rarely rewatch anime but every couple years I rewatch Haruhi.
The movie is considered to be the greatest anime movie of all time. It’s true, the Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya is considered a masterpiece for what it is!
@@morganalabeille5004Idols prey on the wallets of mentally ill losers so theyre taking that gamble with every parasocial dogshit they do creating shortcuts to becoming a real celebrity
It was most likely inspired by a whole different incident involving an idol called Mayu Tomita, who also played an idol called Ai in a TV show called Secret Girls in 2011. She was stalked by an obsessed fan who kept sending gifts to her home address which she refused, idols never do this for obvious reasons and any gifts given are with strict rules and subject to examination by their agency for anything dodgy before handing them over. She was approached by her stalker after an event outside a train station who confronted her angrily about rejecting the gifts, when she refused to tell him why she refused the gifts he stabbed her several times with a pocket knife he was carrying on him. She actually did survive the incident but received several lifelong issues with partial blindness in one eye and issues moving her fingers. The fan was a shut in that became obsessed with her after watching her on TV, he admitted to carrying a knife to the event with the intent to kill her in court. This is just one example of parasocial weirdos doing something crazy but there are enough similarities and how it was a big story, still fairly recent leads me to think the story of Ai in Oshi No Ko was based on this.
Genuinely glad to see she’s doing better! Whenever someone reports on what happened to Aya, they don’t talk about what happened next. I’m so glad to see she’s moved on and is still being supported by actually sane ppl.
Man, this is too nostalgic . I don't really remember any ending from the series or movie . But is it Haruhi finally realise that all the thing she fantasies about like Espers, time traveller are actually happened , and they are her closest friend? Like it totally so depressing to her , as still believing those are not real, cause there's no clear proof provided, but in actuality , they are real , only that she doesn't know
Thank you for this, I loved the show but wasn't in the loop for the fans because of the insanity. I've been doing a recent rewatch of the series to revisit the show again in 2024. To see how i still feel about the characters.
I never saw an episode of Haruhi Suzumiya, but I did notice it was around. On at least two occasions I'd see someone wearing her uniform just walking along the street or in Forbidden Planet (pop culture shop chain in the UK).
I still pray to the anime Gods to this day, that this series would come back one day in my lifetime...before shit turns for the worse, like the voice of Nagato Yuki who is currently doing gravure modeling which is often a gateway to straight up doing 18 +Adult Video making.
Also worth noting: In the early 2010s Kyoani moved to almost exclusively making anime that they owned the completely rights to. It allows them to get a greater slice of the pie, so adapting a Kadokawa work is less likely. That said I feel like they'd probably make an exception for Haruhi.
I love Haruhi Suzumiya and I hope one day It makes a comeback. Also talking about " comeback " everyone was invited but the basis dude was probably at home thinking about his crush ready for breakfast excited for work then breaking news and his whole world changed. Poor basis as a guitar / piano and violin player I feel bad for that guy. Besides that wow I guess you can say only god knows what really went down that day. Cool video. ^_^
One thing lots of people don't realize is that tanigawa never intended for haruhi to be a series. He only initially wanted to write the first book which had an open ending and was somewhat conclusive on its own in that regard. But because the book blew up so much (even before the anime was made) he caved into the pressure to keep writing and turn it into a series. Thing is he's been winging it since and it worked initially because he put out some really good stuff. But the last books felt really stale in terms of writing style and he was clearly using a lot of filler for pages. Even at one point, kyon joked that he doesn't even know what he's talking about anymore and that he's just rambling. The biggest issue is tanigawa doesn't have an ending in mind because he originally never intended to end it, it's the main reason why the novels were so slow and why he took such a long hiatus. And with how much haruhi blew up, the safer option for him is to never actually end the story and keep things the way they are as to not kill of the legacy. Imagine how much a bad ending would destroy the legacy of a series like this, even I probably wouldn't try to do it in that situation.
Now I wish you could review Shakugan no Shana anime, and why it flopped so hard due to being rushed, which is very noticeable in the second and third season.
The fandoms can be really bad at times. Makes us all look bad. Damn Eltingville Club jerks. If this series does come back they'll need to find a new studio to animate it. Hope it does come back, loved this show.
Nah, I think it's because the Voice Actress got a seggs scandal who made her into hiatus almost quit her job as a voice actress. That video is scattered around the internet that time. I think it's still exists
Good thing is that Aya Hirano has still voice acting roles this year beside of her theatrical performances. She voice acts Vegapunk/Lilith in One Piece and has some upcoming voice acting roles such as Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest. By the way, she’s already married.
When I read about how she slept with everyone in the band but the bassist I shed a tear for the dude. That was just plain unfair. Not even a pity handy-j from her.
I still have trauma from the Endless Eight and yes, I watched every painstaking episode of the Endless Eight. It got to a point where I was just looking for any perceivable difference in the episodes, like their bathing suits or yukata or perhaps the situation being slightly different or slightly changed dialogue. By the end of it I could feel a genuine sense of insanity creeping into my mind. I would even start remarking to myself about which bathing suit or yukata looked better on the girls.
Literally had a friendship start and somewhat end with this show. Met the girl in middle school and we bonded over liking the same show, and I later introduced her to my friend group bc she was also new to the school that year. At first things went pretty good, but we started having a lot of fights bc she kinda expected both me and our other friends to rally around her and do stuff for her just like Haruhi. Huge superiority complex, and was overly competitive over the smallest things too. If you didn't go along with her behavior then you were against her. I swear it's like she was a Haruhi kin or something (if you're from tumblr you prob have some idea what this means). After highschool we all kinda realized she was pretty hard to keep around as a friend. Long story short, maybe don't try to be the unlikeable "god" protagonist from an anime. Also never even heard of this scandal and I'm a little surprised that I haven't. The scandal itself is not all that surprising though. I used to cosplay and even though I wasn't all that great at it in my opinion, I kinda had smth similar happen. I can imagine/ kinda already know that idols deal w this bullshit a million times worse.
I like how people nowadays hates slime isekai due to 6 episodes are all meetings. But that add to the world building. Damnit this anime has 8 episodes that is literally the same.
I absolutely loved this anime back in middle school. I then read the spin-off manga that was based on the movie which makes Yuki the main character. The Disappearance of Nagato Yuki-chan, which got me into RomComs.
I think the animation studio nearly getting burnt down may have been a factor in all this, too. Perhaps not a telling factor, but it definitely would have been an issue to deal with.
Not to mention the anime started as a light novel series, which is also really possible. The hardcover English releases are out of print and like $1000 on ebay lol
Still praying for a Season 3 🙏🏻 I think if he pulls off one more light novel and its mini stories instead of episodic, then itll be more likely. Cuz the episodic light novels like dissociation and intrigues are worth a feature film
While the theory put forward by the characters in the light novel and anime is that Haruhi is god, a popular fan theory is that it is actually Kyon who is god. Kyon enters high school giving up on meeting aliens, espers, and time travelers, and then the enigmatic Haruhi ends up sitting behind him in class, and he proceeds to meet aliens, espers, and a time traveler. Everything that happens is related to him in some way. Haruhi's first act of weirdness, the message on the stadium field in middle school, is the result of Kyon going back in time and helping her. The alien and time traveler show up because that act of weirdness has an effect that attracts their attention. If you watch the anime, watch the episode where they make a movie BEFORE watching the movie. It'll be funnier that way.
To anyone worried about the Haruhi books not having an ending - they do! You sort of have to read it yourself to see it as an ending, though, 'cause it doesn't sound particularly conclusive when you're just listing the events of it. It's more a thematic conclusion. Haruhi Suzumiya was always going to end one way - Haruhi's divine will assured that. Therefore, Tanigawa (the author) didn't actually have to write the words "happily ever after," he just had to let you know that Haruhi had faith those words would come true. It took eleven books to make clear to Kyon that Haruhi believed in a happy ending. And that's where it ended - book eleven. And now there's a twelfth book and a thirteenth on the way and they aren't epilogues set ten years later or anything - they're just more Haruhi, because we can imagine what that epilogue ten years later would look like, and I love it. Good books, those. They make you think. I recommend anyone give 'em a read, regardless if they've seen or liked the show. (Of course, if you've seen the show, skip to book five.)
The fun part of that show was that when you watch it none of us knew she was a God. There were hints but it was slice of life so you don't think too much about it. We then find out she is a God because of that one movie. My ratings for that show immediately went higher after that.
Dammit! i erased the endless 8 from my memory! i don't want to relive that painful experience! and i hate haruhi, she was unredeemable after the episode where she was trying to force a kiss on a the drunk mikuru.
And now, flash forward to 2024, and the new anime dance trend is Idol (Oshi No ko) and that one anime that foresaw the old Dora the Explorer dance's popularity (Mashle: Magic and Muscles).
it's not entirely the reason why kyoani stopped adapting haruhi, the main one they basically stopped adapting anime from outside publishers like kadokawa.
It's no wonder Aya Hirano went a bit nuts. She was about 21 and had stalkers following her every move and sending batshit messages to her. Too much pressure and madness around her. I hope she is actually happy now.
This anime has shaped a generation, sadly it’s a generation that was at its prime before the anime boom of the mid 2010s. It was a smaller and more niche ya know? Along with the Host Club anime, Naruto, Bleach, Gundam Wing, and that ending song from Inuyasha that played at 5:55 am. Times when fillers and spin offs made up more than half of an anime’s run time. Now most of the weebs from that era have either grown up or have just wandered around the internet speaking of the legends of old. The legend of Haruhi.
Three things: 1. The bonkers shit about the Endless 8 isn't just that it was the same script for two months. It's that, except for the credits, they didn't reuse a single frame of animation. It's a master class in using music, framing and line delivery to change the mood of a script. That leads to point 2: 2. The studio that put out Haruhi, Kyoto Animation, was the target of a brutal attack back in 2019. They're back in business, though, and if high school band PTSD flashback Sound! Euphonium season 3 is any indication, they're better than ever. Good animation is hard work, though, and it takes a lot of turnaround time if they're doing it ethically. KyoAni also probably has projects that they started before the attack that they want to finish up before taking new things on. 3. You're right about the money being important. Anime is advertising, and without something big to advertise, that's a lot of money going out without a clear return on investment.
If you haven’t read the novels they are fucking incredible. They are on Amazon and free audio books on youtube by fans. It does have a very satisfactory ending, with like a could there be more ending. But there doesn’t need to be. Would love to see it be adapted though.
It seem like the problem is the creator/ writer got so much money he stopped caring about continuing the series. Most creators end up over worked to the point of destroying their health, so him basically quitting was probably for the best.
As someone who lived through the k-on and Haruhi era and all the moe era it's very much a product of the time. It doesnt need to come back and doesnt hold up aswell i remembered it to be. Today's k-on is laid back camp and as for Haruhi equivalent I guess Frieren Is as popular as Haruhi was back then.
Looking back, this anime went big even though its plot is messy af. I never got the story it was trying to tell. It's just full of fanservice like God Knows and Hare Hare Yukai
This anime was a roller-coaster for me, at first I liked it because of the random moments but after the endless eight I kinda stopped but still decided to stay for its memes.
Well, there hasn’t been any updates since the 2011 movie so that makes sense. It happens to a lot of series. Sometimes a series can be massive and after so many years of no updates to the franchise, the series dies down. It’s an eventual outcome for even the biggest franchises. Every era comes to an end eventually. This series was huge, but it was mostly with anime fans. It was an otaku type show. Like Re:zero and others. For a specific audience, but also, very big within that anime fan audience.
Same. I watched the first few episodes when it first came out, then dropped and barely ever heard of it again. This is the first time I heard someone say that Haruhi was big...
@OnigoroshiZero Wow! Really? My friend group adored Haruhi in the 00s. Along with every other fan I've met, who has been a fan since the 00s or early 10s. Around when the anime released in 2006, my friend group were all still into Haruhi in 2007-2009. Aside from feelings on Endless Eight. Idk exactly about watching as it aired because my friend group and I were all between grades 4th-8th grade. All of us were varying levels of really into anime or just a casual viewer. I was in 6th or 7th grade at the time. Idr exactly which. I was one of the newbie casuals in the group. So, we weren't watching as it aired like people now do. Well, actually, one in the group was kinda doing something close to it, but we weren't all seasonal type fans. We watched online and just watched at our pace. Watched whenever it was made available to people overseas (not in Japan or Asia) online.
Seriously though, the thought that someone is getting death threats because they are dating someone is just down right insanely stupid
The way japan is going with the low birthrate, men be simping like crazy.
Amer.. wait wrong country, Japan!
Or south korea it happens alot unfortunately.
Japanese idol culture, man... It's still going strong. Sure 70% of the blame goes to the weird fans, but the idol companies and idols themselves market it that way.
@@Lemonidas_of_Sourta i actually think south korea is worse and k netziens are truly scary these days. Multiple people have committed suicide as a result of online harassment.
Haruhi was a crystallization of the decade’s anime tropes and was a founding member of the current anime zeitgeist.
I think another factor was that Kyoto Animation just didn't really do long series back then. Two seasons and a movie was more than pretty much all their other projects from that era got. This doesn't really seem to be the case anymore now that we're getting things like Sound Euphonium Season 3, so I could definitely see them returning to Haruhi when they have the option to running through to an ending.
not to mention the death of the director in the arsonist incident.
@@solitaregames i'm sorry, i don't understand how your comment connects to everything else in this video. for the sake of everyone who is interested but don't have enough information about it, can you please elaborate further?
@@jonglopez5400 The director of animation died in the Kyoto animation arsonist attack.
I hope so, but I’ve heard the possibility of Kyoani doing so is slim to non-existent leaning towards the latter. Supposedly, that’s why Satelight studio handled the Nagato Yuki spinoff in 2015. So, even when the spinoff was done, it wasn’t done through Kyoani. They don’t like adapting content they don’t own themselves anymore. Haruhi is one of those series. Kyoani is probably done with Haruhi.
Sound Euphonium is Kyoani's own IP so not surprising they are willing to make more anime for it unlike Haruhi
This was the anime that made me go from a Toonami / Adult Swim, dubbed only casual into an omega cringe weeb
A classic will do that to ya
NICE PFP BTW
There is absolutely nothing omega cringe about being a (modern definition) weeb. However, being a dub slave IS omega cringe.
What is that PFP?
Ye it‘s had that effect on me as well. By the time I started it, I‘d watched a handful of non-mainstream series already (Secret of Haruka Nogizaka, Rosario + Vampire, Vampire Knight) but this one… yeah, tbh the Yukai dance was the reason I started it but this rly opened me up to SoL as a genre. I‘d joined a community on FB where ppl mentioned all the Lucky Star references and so that was the next one I checked out. What a time! Not that it‘s bad now tho
In the mighty words of Avenged Sevenfold, "Welcome to the Family!"
Poor Bassist xD
Feels bad for Aya Hirano, she's free to have relationship with whoever she wants, it's her life. Glad to see she's happy now
Wonder if we will have season 3 if this didn't get out of hands
"The three Bs you should never date:
1: Bassist
2: Bassist
3: Bassist"
She is doing fine, She is still active va lucy from fairy tail
Haruhi ends with Kyon an Haruhi waking up 5 years after High-school they are married
Really?
@@MASTEROFEVIL yeah in the last volume before hiatus, that was mentioned.
Can you plese tell me where I can find that info cause I would love it to be true, but I searched and cant find it... was it an afterword of volume 12 of the novel?
@@reyesjustin07gamilin volume 12? Where cause I cant find it searching... was it an afterword?
@@RedKing64 its the last light novel before the hiatus and as far as my memory is concerned they weren't married
If we are talking about an anime that was Cancelled/Dropped/Discontinued due to a scandal I reckon that nothing beats Kokoro Connect.
Oh shit yeah, that one, the bullying one. Everyone involved in the bullying basically just got a slap on the wrist, hell even the master mind still got off scotsfree(he's still have the job as anime director, even now, he's the one who directed mushoku tensei anime). The Novel's Author however, who atleast supposed to be the collateral damage, become the casualty. The Novel flopped, making it to have rushed ending (from what i heard). Even the other novel that the author made is flopped after that scandal, i heard the author also has been stopped writing a few years later after that.
I can bring up Act-Age as another example, though be warned it will contain mention of SA. So, Act-Age was somehow able to compete with MHA and JJK as a manga despite not being a shonen but being published in the same magazine as them. However, it was cancelled after the author committed SA against two schoolgirls, which also caused its planned adaptations to be scrapped before they could even be made as the other people involved in Act-Age, such as the illustrator, didn't want to traumatize the victims by continuing the entire series
@@Giovansbilly seriously wtf, it's really a wasted potential hghffh.
Nothing beats back then watching the endless eight arc when it was happening and every time a new episode came out, it was the same and everyone freaking the hell out.
I actually liked that they did this, it showed what Nagato was going through, seeing the same thing over and over again, even tho for her, it was billions of times. If we freaked out over 8 episodes, now imagine if it was all the time.
For context this was the time period when generally streaming services for anime didn't exist, what you got are pirate sites. Back in that era receiving a file titled episode 4 may as well had been episode 3. Now you got the Endless Eight arc. It was an international "Am I having Alzheimer's?" moment.
I love those episodes - but then while I read the light novels I never watched the anime until I could just buy the set on disc. It's truly impressive that the animators took care to never show us exactly the same thing twice, to the extent of designing nine sets of clothing for everybody that all looks like things they specifically would wear.
I friggin loved looking at forums during this period. Watching people say oh look they're in front of store called ENDLESS and all the clothes were in stacks of 8.
Aya Hirono was a victim of something all too common in idol culture. A perceived parasocial relationship with the audience that led to some of the most delusional shit possible.
While this is true, it's come out much later that she was a toxic bitch in her band career. This video observes her downfall from the perspective of the anime industry and her anime fandom, but the backlash against her originally came from her music fans, and those are more mature normies who didn't perceive her as an idol at the time. It just happened that the music fandom's beef with her got way amplified in the far more obsessive anime community.
I'll never forget the video I saw back then of this one ex-fan of hers coldly staring into his camera as he destroyed a Haruhi figurine while repeating "Kuso bichi" over and over. It was the epitome of unhinged and just served as another great reason why the otaku lifestyle is not something to be celebrated and encouraged.
@ElFreakinCid What?! No the just people the make us look bad and that's it.
@@ElFreakinCidIt's fine for the lifestyle it's the person that is always the problem
It works both ways. If you decide to literally SELL that relationship to mentally ill losers you are then beholden to that dynamic. You can't have your cake & eat it maybe just have a normal voice acting career like everyone else idk!
Kyon is the main character. Haruhi is just the title character.
Kintama!!!°
Disagree. Haruhi is the main character, but it's told from Kyon's perspective.
@@Mr_DPZ I literally watched a video about video games that have the pov and the protagonist.
@@Mr_DPZ ...So Kyon is the protagonist.
Theres an arguement to be made that haruhi is the mc but if thats true then its the first time ive ever seen an anime told from a 2nd person pov
Aye Hirano may not appear as a new main character in anime series but she is still kicking and willing to appear her old iconic characters. It is confirmed that she will be back as Lucy in Fairy Tail 100 year quest anime. Also her theater performance as Makima is such as badass.
I figured she moved on to VTubing.
@@baltakateishes still doing plenty of voice acting, mainly for mobile games in the last few years. she is the va for beatrix and alexiel in granblue fantasy and botan in dragalia lost. there are others but i cant name them off the top of my head since i dont play them. gbf is my main. i still play that everyday
Aya is done she fucked up
@@catsbyondrepair Yeah sure, except she is more popular, mainstream and respected than 99% of the voice acting industry.
@@grandlancercuchulainn1509 Respect? No. Popular? The height of her popularity has passed. Mainstream. She's still a well known name, no doubt, but she's not necessarily a headliner like she was. The sex scandal very much derailed her career.
Something not said here is that Aya Hirano herself was quite confrontational way before the scandal. At the time she was already planning to quit VA work and make it big as an actress, which means she... wasn't afraid of telling her fans off even for stupid stuff like the "Aya Style". By the time the bassist scandal happened, she had already burned bridges with the anime community.
The reason why they aren't being adapted is simple, and I say this as someone who was a big fan of Haruhi back in the day, it's no longer relevant. This LN opened the floodgates for LN adaptations, of which there were extremely few before. Said LNs capitalized on part of the winning formula Haruhi pioneered, which is the wish fulfillment aspect to such a disgusting degree that right now, Haruhi is nothing special. Every other manga or LN adaptation is about some average school kid who has weird or magical people interested in him for some dumb reason.
It was a product of its time. You had to be there to experience the craze and how special it was. A reboot or an attempt to adapt the other volumes would only highlight the issues nobody wanted to see at the time. Because right now they're rampant in the industry to the point they're no longer seen as a plus.
well said.....Haruhi was extremely huge and everything after haruhi while predictable and generic just seems much better to what haruhi was.
True. The same thing when I bust a nut for the first time and thought it was most amazing shit ever happened but after the 5th time, 50th time, the 100th time, it was never the same experience I felt when I bust a nut for the first time
Literally all Aya said regarding her career was that she hadn't gone into VA work planning to make it a permanent thing, and those "burned bridges" were with creepy otaku who'd formed obsessive parasocial relationships with her and couldn't handle learning that the voice of their precious goddess Haruhi actually fucks.
Just like Madoka Magica and the Monogatari series. They used to dominate anime forums and conventions, not so much now. Attack on Titan, Demon Slayer, even Evangelion now that's actually over will eventually go the same way.
And Fate Series, anything by type moon, and all the gundams at last.
Watching Haruhi and then watching lucky star was one of the best combo because of how big Haruhi influences on lucky star and how it make you feel you have a friend in that fandom too
Ah yes, I belong to this generation.
Such iconic non-mainstream animes like: Chrno Crusade, Gunslinger Girls, Rozen Maiden, School Rumble, Girls Bravo, DearS, Galaxy Angels, Ergo Proxy, Seto no Hanayome
I guess it's time to rewatch those after such a long time
Good taste :)
Daaaaaaam nice list never id see someone this qualified on a youtube comments section
i only watched ergo proxy from this list
Suzumiya Haruhi is the anime that turned me from any old kid who watches Japanese cartoons on Saturdays into an anime fan, this and Code Geass (Yes I know, I'm an Anime boomer).
Please, don't compare this with Code Geass. Code Geass is the GOAT in anime, Haruhi is nothing in comparison.
@@OnigoroshiZero How dare you
@@OnigoroshiZero hey, I watch Haruhi first and I must say it is great but both are completely different.
one had so many characters but managed to create one of the most loved protagonist of all time and the other limit itself while still managed to be a masterpiece
@@OnigoroshiZero Haruhi Suzumiya was the OG Gintama, apart from Lucky Star of course which was voiced by the very same VA's. No one is comparing Code Geass with anything, OP is merely placing Haruhi on the same ranks/greatness as the other GOAT animes that was released the same generation. Don't over-react and touch grass 😂😂
Me too :)
Man- I started getting super into anime when Haruhi was at its peak. Every anime dance vid included Hare Hare Yukai. At cons, at least 5 people were cosplaying Haruhi or wearing the uniform. I also swear that it was Haruhi that popularized putting 2000s anime characters into bunny girl outfits. And the amount of hype surrounding the Disappearance movie had to be seen to be believed.
Even ignoring that- the anime itself was beautful. At that time, there weren't a lot of studios that could deliver the consistent quality KyoAni did (and continues to do).
Personally? I hated Haruhi (the character.) She drove me nuts. I know that's the point and part of the story is to see her get better thanks to Kyon. But there was only so much I could do to tolerate her. I mostly enjoyed the visuals and watched purely for the animation.
Now it's crazy. I swear to younger anime fans that Haruhi was THE Queen of Anime for a long time in the 2000s. But a majority of them have seen neither her nor Hare Hare Yukai.
Between that and people forgetting Lucky Star, it can make me feel like I lived a fever dream in the 2000s.
Thank you for making this. You scared me for a second.
I thought something happened to the good people at Kyoto Animation again-
Drops the hardest videos, leaves for a couple months, comes back and does it again, refuses to elaborate.
My G
Haruhi was so iconic, I used to own multiple Haruhi figures (some of my first anime figures ever!), a DVD, and I even got my parents to buy me a Haruhi novel from abroad. The 2000s and early 2010s were so good for anime.
I swear im being gaslit by the entire anime community about how massive this anime is, yet rarely hear its name mentioned
We're not gaslighting you! It fizzled out tremendously after 2010. The stuff that it did when it came out was fresh but looking back years later it doesn't hold up as well. New fans aren't going back to it and discussions about this anime don't really extend passed how popular it is. With the limited source material and it not being completed, there's not much to talk about the series. If the series were to get more material though it would definitely blow up again.
@Guaz ah that'd make a lot of sense mostly because i got into anime around 2014
It was partly huge because it got to be the first exposure one generation got to a lot of ideas that aren't at all new but that you don't normally find all at once in the same place.
You haven't heard about the endless eight? Amazing!
Because it was never that big. I've been watching anime since late 90s without missing a season.
I started this when it first came out, and watched 6-7 episodes. Then I dropped it, and barely even heard about it since then, and I've been in dozens of forums related to anime and manga in the last 25 years.
You should have been there in 2008 when Code Geass ended, Haruhi can't even begin to compare to what Code Geass did to the community for months.
4:54 - Seeing this brings new context to that one season of Aggretsuko...
...not to mention the currently airing series "The many sides of voice actor radio."
I don't think people realize how big Haruhi Suzuniya was back then during thr 2006-2009 anime era. Up to this day, me and my friends still joke about that endless 8 bullshit we had to survivr watching. "You're a real dude if you survive endless 8"
Seriously, The Clowns sending Death threats were never fans. No real fan would send death threats over Someone finding some happiness with another person.
You say that, but behaviour like this is depressingly common amongst intense fandoms in the idol industries not just in Japan but also in Korea and China too.
It's why No Dating rules are so prevalent because a lot of companies not only acknowledge this kind of behaviour amongst fans, but also run with it and monopolize it, marketing this image of perpetual "purity" and faux "obtain-ability" amongst their idols by banning them from dating, which in turn fosters much more intense (and financially lucrative) parasocial relationships between the fans and their idols.
The industry is really flippant and ruthless because as much as these companies and fandoms will expect an idol to sacrifice their dating life, education, health and more for them under intense grueling schedules, they're incredibly superficial and youth-obsessed and will be just as liable to ditch an idol because they gained a miniscule amount of weight, turned a year too "old" (with "old" being potent deemed anything mid-laye 20s) or changed their haircut to something fans didn't like. So it is hardly like even if you do your utmost to live like the most perfect idol you will experience a long & loyal career (far from it).
It's obsession, not love
Great video man I was a kid that got into anime around 2007-2008 and I can confirm that haruhi was indeed impossible to avoid
Appreciate the cameo from my New York Anime Fest video.
A guy commenting what he would say if he were Klaus from American Dad really sums up this kind of guy
Also Disappearance of Nagato Yuki is Canon
Because that's where Alien Yuki traded places with Normal Yuki when she got sick after the Mountain Blizzard Mystery time travel Arc (Where Kyon had to save himself from getting stabbed in Disappearance of Haruhi the movie)
Endless Eight was what killed it for me (and many others). They dropped the ball super hard.
They had the biggest hit of the industry in their hands, everybody was waiting for the second season and 8 out of the 14 episodes ended up being basically the same.
It should've been a two or a three-parter at most.
yep. I agree, no new light novels helped kill it, but what really did the series in was endless 8. By the time endless 8 had finished all hype for haruhi was gone. even the movie, as fantastic as it was, couldn't rekindle the hype. the problem was most fans saw endless 8 as Kyoani giving the finger to the fans. Basically there was a feeling in the anime fandom that kyoani was sorta forced into a season 2, and they had shown as a studio a tremendous reluctance to season 2s thanks to the flop that was Full Metal Panic! season 2. there was a feeling that Kadokawa had sorta forced their hand and was part of the reason why Kyoani stopped adopting other publishers works (and created their own in house publisher).
as a result of the resentment kyoani felt for doing season 2, they sorta gave everyone a giant middle finger with endless 8. and as a result they tanked the series themselves just to say fuck you to kodakawa.
@@arizona_anime_fanKyoani only worked on The Second Raid and Fumofuu comedy season. Gonzo was the studio credited for s1 of FMP.
@@FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr I know who worked on what season of FMP. fumoffu was a full cour of content. season 2 was another cour of content. the reception for fumoffu was much much better then it was for season 2.
@@arizona_anime_fanI wouldn’t be surprised at all
All this could have prevented is to reduce the Endless Eight to 3 or 4 episodes, or just don't do the Endless Eight arc for the anime at all.
It's funny, I never seen the anime, but that character was everywhere. Like they'd have pics of her all over cons, she'd be on the cover of anime mags or your con badge, lots of cosplayers, clips of her show on AMVs, all of that. The internet wasn't what it is today where if I see images of Uzaki-Chan popping up at cons without ever hearing about her and I could easily google her to see what series she's from.
I think part of the success was the fact that they had Kyoto animation making the series. The story really benefited from the studio's care with the source material. I rarely rewatch anime but every couple years I rewatch Haruhi.
The movie is considered to be the greatest anime movie of all time. It’s true, the Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya is considered a masterpiece for what it is!
I wonder of the Oshi no Ko series was lightly inspired by the story of Aya Hirano.
Given what idol fans in general are like I don't think it is. Stories like hers are Very common.
@@morganalabeille5004Idols prey on the wallets of mentally ill losers so theyre taking that gamble with every parasocial dogshit they do creating shortcuts to becoming a real celebrity
It was most likely inspired by a whole different incident involving an idol called Mayu Tomita, who also played an idol called Ai in a TV show called Secret Girls in 2011. She was stalked by an obsessed fan who kept sending gifts to her home address which she refused, idols never do this for obvious reasons and any gifts given are with strict rules and subject to examination by their agency for anything dodgy before handing them over.
She was approached by her stalker after an event outside a train station who confronted her angrily about rejecting the gifts, when she refused to tell him why she refused the gifts he stabbed her several times with a pocket knife he was carrying on him. She actually did survive the incident but received several lifelong issues with partial blindness in one eye and issues moving her fingers. The fan was a shut in that became obsessed with her after watching her on TV, he admitted to carrying a knife to the event with the intent to kill her in court.
This is just one example of parasocial weirdos doing something crazy but there are enough similarities and how it was a big story, still fairly recent leads me to think the story of Ai in Oshi No Ko was based on this.
Genuinely glad to see she’s doing better! Whenever someone reports on what happened to Aya, they don’t talk about what happened next.
I’m so glad to see she’s moved on and is still being supported by actually sane ppl.
I really hope we get another season one day. Also, glad to see you at it again Guaz!
YO AZURE MUCH LOVE TO YOU BRO THANK YOU FOR STILL TUNING IN
Man, this is too nostalgic . I don't really remember any ending from the series or movie . But is it Haruhi finally realise that all the thing she fantasies about like Espers, time traveller are actually happened , and they are her closest friend? Like it totally so depressing to her , as still believing those are not real, cause there's no clear proof provided, but in actuality , they are real , only that she doesn't know
Yeah this is the anime that was created at the Anime Studio that was the victim of one of the worst arson attacks in Japan's history.
Thank you for this, I loved the show but wasn't in the loop for the fans because of the insanity. I've been doing a recent rewatch of the series to revisit the show again in 2024. To see how i still feel about the characters.
I hope you also watch The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya. It really ties the series together IMO.
I never saw an episode of Haruhi Suzumiya, but I did notice it was around. On at least two occasions I'd see someone wearing her uniform just walking along the street or in Forbidden Planet (pop culture shop chain in the UK).
Love the mid video skit. Your comic timing is great :)
I still pray to the anime Gods to this day, that this series would come back one day in my lifetime...before shit turns for the worse, like the voice of Nagato Yuki who is currently doing gravure modeling which is often a gateway to straight up doing 18 +Adult Video making.
Not always, the wrestler Asuka did a few gravure videos and she never got into making adult stuff.
Also worth noting: In the early 2010s Kyoani moved to almost exclusively making anime that they owned the completely rights to. It allows them to get a greater slice of the pie, so adapting a Kadokawa work is less likely. That said I feel like they'd probably make an exception for Haruhi.
The goat has dropped for months
The people have starved long enough!!
I love Haruhi Suzumiya and I hope one day It makes a comeback. Also talking about " comeback " everyone was invited but the basis dude was probably at home thinking about his crush ready for breakfast excited for work then breaking news and his whole world changed. Poor basis as a guitar / piano and violin player I feel bad for that guy. Besides that wow I guess you can say only god knows what really went down that day. Cool video. ^_^
Haruhi series catapulted the Figma anime figures. Sadly Gen Zs from FB barely know what Figma is or have no idea what Haruhi is.
nah that lil skit got my subscription lmfaooo
4:15 maybe because i was born in 1970 but... why is it big deal that a celebrity has a boyfriend? Did these fans think they have a chance.
One thing lots of people don't realize is that tanigawa never intended for haruhi to be a series. He only initially wanted to write the first book which had an open ending and was somewhat conclusive on its own in that regard. But because the book blew up so much (even before the anime was made) he caved into the pressure to keep writing and turn it into a series. Thing is he's been winging it since and it worked initially because he put out some really good stuff. But the last books felt really stale in terms of writing style and he was clearly using a lot of filler for pages. Even at one point, kyon joked that he doesn't even know what he's talking about anymore and that he's just rambling.
The biggest issue is tanigawa doesn't have an ending in mind because he originally never intended to end it, it's the main reason why the novels were so slow and why he took such a long hiatus. And with how much haruhi blew up, the safer option for him is to never actually end the story and keep things the way they are as to not kill of the legacy. Imagine how much a bad ending would destroy the legacy of a series like this, even I probably wouldn't try to do it in that situation.
Now I wish you could review Shakugan no Shana anime, and why it flopped so hard due to being rushed, which is very noticeable in the second and third season.
Wow i forgot that anime. I think i saw the first season and thats it.. have to check it out. Thanks.
@@Robplayswithdragons Me too. I only saw the first season on TV. And that's kinda it.
@@Isaac-gh5ku 2nd and 3rd season are ok but a major downgrade in story and character progression from the first season.
1:51
You're telling me, that fuckin' horse is an anime fan????
*B U L L S H I T !*
The fandoms can be really bad at times. Makes us all look bad. Damn Eltingville Club jerks. If this series does come back they'll need to find a new studio to animate it. Hope it does come back, loved this show.
This video was funny af and very entertaining and now I have a new anime to watch. Keep doing more videos man you’re good
Nah, I think it's because the Voice Actress got a seggs scandal who made her into hiatus almost quit her job as a voice actress. That video is scattered around the internet that time. I think it's still exists
Good thing is that Aya Hirano has still voice acting roles this year beside of her theatrical performances. She voice acts Vegapunk/Lilith in One Piece and has some upcoming voice acting roles such as Fairy Tail 100 Year Quest. By the way, she’s already married.
NAHHH bro was cooking hard on this one gad damn
Almost burnt down the kitchen with this one
Alright I'm going to watch this anime immediately.
You would think anime fans were used to time loop episodes, higurashi had been out already and the first few episodes were just time loops
A lot of videos about this series keep showing up for me might have to watch
When I read about how she slept with everyone in the band but the bassist I shed a tear for the dude. That was just plain unfair. Not even a pity handy-j from her.
I still have trauma from the Endless Eight and yes, I watched every painstaking episode of the Endless Eight.
It got to a point where I was just looking for any perceivable difference in the episodes, like their bathing suits or yukata or perhaps the situation being slightly different or slightly changed dialogue.
By the end of it I could feel a genuine sense of insanity creeping into my mind. I would even start remarking to myself about which bathing suit or yukata looked better on the girls.
cool video explaining stuff, man. I wish you all the luck for the next ones.
Dont forget that there was an arson attack at kyoto animations where some of the employees from haruhi perished.....
Everyone knows the anime will come back when Kyon finally decides to do his stupid summer homework
C'mon out, Captpan6, I know you're in this comments section! (Love everything you do, btw)
I've got to check this out, and I appreciate the venture bros clip. Nice.
The movie is soooooooo perfect. Ive rewatch it multiple times
The spiritual twin of this show is called " Charlotte ". Its actually pretty good.
Literally had a friendship start and somewhat end with this show. Met the girl in middle school and we bonded over liking the same show, and I later introduced her to my friend group bc she was also new to the school that year. At first things went pretty good, but we started having a lot of fights bc she kinda expected both me and our other friends to rally around her and do stuff for her just like Haruhi. Huge superiority complex, and was overly competitive over the smallest things too. If you didn't go along with her behavior then you were against her. I swear it's like she was a Haruhi kin or something (if you're from tumblr you prob have some idea what this means). After highschool we all kinda realized she was pretty hard to keep around as a friend. Long story short, maybe don't try to be the unlikeable "god" protagonist from an anime.
Also never even heard of this scandal and I'm a little surprised that I haven't. The scandal itself is not all that surprising though. I used to cosplay and even though I wasn't all that great at it in my opinion, I kinda had smth similar happen. I can imagine/ kinda already know that idols deal w this bullshit a million times worse.
I like how people nowadays hates slime isekai due to 6 episodes are all meetings. But that add to the world building. Damnit this anime has 8 episodes that is literally the same.
I absolutely loved this anime back in middle school. I then read the spin-off manga that was based on the movie which makes Yuki the main character. The Disappearance of Nagato Yuki-chan, which got me into RomComs.
...I always wanted to hear about what really went down with Haruhi. And yeah I remember Aya's issue. Dayum. Made sense.
Great video, also, awesome Megadeath t-shirt.
Goat at work
Good video bro , I throughly enjoyed it 🔥🔥🔥
I think the animation studio nearly getting burnt down may have been a factor in all this, too. Perhaps not a telling factor, but it definitely would have been an issue to deal with.
I remember someone from then haruhi team posted an art of haruhi as an adult in her college days
Not to mention the anime started as a light novel series, which is also really possible. The hardcover English releases are out of print and like $1000 on ebay lol
Still praying for a Season 3 🙏🏻
I think if he pulls off one more light novel and its mini stories instead of episodic, then itll be more likely. Cuz the episodic light novels like dissociation and intrigues are worth a feature film
While the theory put forward by the characters in the light novel and anime is that Haruhi is god, a popular fan theory is that it is actually Kyon who is god. Kyon enters high school giving up on meeting aliens, espers, and time travelers, and then the enigmatic Haruhi ends up sitting behind him in class, and he proceeds to meet aliens, espers, and a time traveler. Everything that happens is related to him in some way. Haruhi's first act of weirdness, the message on the stadium field in middle school, is the result of Kyon going back in time and helping her. The alien and time traveler show up because that act of weirdness has an effect that attracts their attention. If you watch the anime, watch the episode where they make a movie BEFORE watching the movie. It'll be funnier that way.
To anyone worried about the Haruhi books not having an ending - they do! You sort of have to read it yourself to see it as an ending, though, 'cause it doesn't sound particularly conclusive when you're just listing the events of it. It's more a thematic conclusion. Haruhi Suzumiya was always going to end one way - Haruhi's divine will assured that. Therefore, Tanigawa (the author) didn't actually have to write the words "happily ever after," he just had to let you know that Haruhi had faith those words would come true. It took eleven books to make clear to Kyon that Haruhi believed in a happy ending. And that's where it ended - book eleven.
And now there's a twelfth book and a thirteenth on the way and they aren't epilogues set ten years later or anything - they're just more Haruhi, because we can imagine what that epilogue ten years later would look like, and I love it.
Good books, those. They make you think. I recommend anyone give 'em a read, regardless if they've seen or liked the show. (Of course, if you've seen the show, skip to book five.)
The fun part of that show was that when you watch it none of us knew she was a God. There were hints but it was slice of life so you don't think too much about it. We then find out she is a God because of that one movie. My ratings for that show immediately went higher after that.
my boy has dropped 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Dammit! i erased the endless 8 from my memory! i don't want to relive that painful experience!
and i hate haruhi, she was unredeemable after the episode where she was trying to force a kiss on a the drunk mikuru.
I truly feel bad for anyone that wont get a chance at seeing the ending for the series.
1st time in this channel, and i loved it! cheers from argentina
Thank you my man!
Also Great Video 😁 Best Burger King commercial I got watching this.
Also Also Good Times.
I heard that Hirano would also criticize anime and her otaku fans and mainly just used her voice roles to promote her singing and overall popularity.
Seeing how idol industry works and how insane the culture and fans surrounding it is, she has a point.
Honestly that probably made her perfect to voice Misa Amane. She knows what's up.
And now, flash forward to 2024, and the new anime dance trend is Idol (Oshi No ko) and that one anime that foresaw the old Dora the Explorer dance's popularity (Mashle: Magic and Muscles).
2006 was a good year. I watch the whole 1st season of Suzumiya Haruhi like there were no other anime at the time.
it's not entirely the reason why kyoani stopped adapting haruhi, the main one they basically stopped adapting anime from outside publishers like kadokawa.
It's no wonder Aya Hirano went a bit nuts. She was about 21 and had stalkers following her every move and sending batshit messages to her. Too much pressure and madness around her. I hope she is actually happy now.
This anime has shaped a generation, sadly it’s a generation that was at its prime before the anime boom of the mid 2010s. It was a smaller and more niche ya know? Along with the Host Club anime, Naruto, Bleach, Gundam Wing, and that ending song from Inuyasha that played at 5:55 am. Times when fillers and spin offs made up more than half of an anime’s run time. Now most of the weebs from that era have either grown up or have just wandered around the internet speaking of the legends of old. The legend of Haruhi.
Three things:
1. The bonkers shit about the Endless 8 isn't just that it was the same script for two months. It's that, except for the credits, they didn't reuse a single frame of animation. It's a master class in using music, framing and line delivery to change the mood of a script.
That leads to point 2:
2. The studio that put out Haruhi, Kyoto Animation, was the target of a brutal attack back in 2019. They're back in business, though, and if high school band PTSD flashback Sound! Euphonium season 3 is any indication, they're better than ever. Good animation is hard work, though, and it takes a lot of turnaround time if they're doing it ethically. KyoAni also probably has projects that they started before the attack that they want to finish up before taking new things on.
3. You're right about the money being important. Anime is advertising, and without something big to advertise, that's a lot of money going out without a clear return on investment.
Haruhi came out when the internet was in the “random=funny” era. That has a lot to do with its popularity too.
If you haven’t read the novels they are fucking incredible. They are on Amazon and free audio books on youtube by fans. It does have a very satisfactory ending, with like a could there be more ending. But there doesn’t need to be. Would love to see it be adapted though.
It seem like the problem is the creator/ writer got so much money he stopped caring about continuing the series. Most creators end up over worked to the point of destroying their health, so him basically quitting was probably for the best.
As someone who lived through the k-on and Haruhi era and all the moe era it's very much a product of the time. It doesnt need to come back and doesnt hold up aswell i remembered it to be. Today's
k-on is laid back camp and as for Haruhi equivalent I guess Frieren Is as popular as Haruhi was back then.
Looking back, this anime went big even though its plot is messy af. I never got the story it was trying to tell. It's just full of fanservice like God Knows and Hare Hare Yukai
This anime was a roller-coaster for me, at first I liked it because of the random moments but after the endless eight I kinda stopped but still decided to stay for its memes.
1:33 so satan as an anime character instead loo
Lifelong otaku. Didn't actually hear about this until I was an adult.
Well, there hasn’t been any updates since the 2011 movie so that makes sense. It happens to a lot of series. Sometimes a series can be massive and after so many years of no updates to the franchise, the series dies down. It’s an eventual outcome for even the biggest franchises. Every era comes to an end eventually. This series was huge, but it was mostly with anime fans. It was an otaku type show. Like Re:zero and others. For a specific audience, but also, very big within that anime fan audience.
@@FullmoonPhantom-dn2sr I actually saw the spin off first lol
Same. I watched the first few episodes when it first came out, then dropped and barely ever heard of it again. This is the first time I heard someone say that Haruhi was big...
@OnigoroshiZero Wow! Really? My friend group adored Haruhi in the 00s. Along with every other fan I've met, who has been a fan since the 00s or early 10s.
Around when the anime released in 2006, my friend group were all still into Haruhi in 2007-2009. Aside from feelings on Endless Eight. Idk exactly about watching as it aired because my friend group and I were all between grades 4th-8th grade. All of us were varying levels of really into anime or just a casual viewer. I was in 6th or 7th grade at the time. Idr exactly which. I was one of the newbie casuals in the group. So, we weren't watching as it aired like people now do. Well, actually, one in the group was kinda doing something close to it, but we weren't all seasonal type fans.
We watched online and just watched at our pace. Watched whenever it was made available to people overseas (not in Japan or Asia) online.
@Aeonshield 🤩 What did you think of the spin off?