Seriously! He must have spent a lot of hours reading all those annual resolutions. I have been in the GARBC all my life and am always surprised when anyone has ever heard of us, let alone researched what we believe.
@@caleschnell It is not a silly question. We can't find Sunday School mentioned in the scriptures. We also cannot find the use of musical instruments used in the New Testament.
I'm a member of one of these churces here in Brazil for a long time, any questions you guys have just comment here! We probably never have videos done about us ever lol
My father was from eastern Kentucky, the heartland of the Old Regular Baptist Church. The main thing a recall that differentiates it from the church described in this video is that the Old Regulars definitely love the King James Bible and see it as the only English version that should be read.
Addition: As I remember, the Old Regulars "line out" their hymns and don't use any instruments in their services, so definitely no debate about contemporary music.
I'm a member of one of these churces here in Brazil for a long time, this does not apply here . We read any good version that is considered a good translation from the original greek
@@dr.casebolt It depends on the church. Some ban instruments and even still use the old shape-note hymnals, which I find fascinating and enjoy hearing because it produces a unique performance (which I promise I don't mean as a backhanded compliment, but it kind of sounds like one now that I re-read it). On the other hand, I've personally been to multiple Old Regular churches that have guitar and organ/piano music. It all depends, I guess. Especially in Appalachia, there's a lot of crossover between churches, and sometimes Old Regular Baptists, Primitive Baptists, Pentecostals and even Christian (denomination) churches seem to share some practices as attendees move back and forth between churches.
No one seems to read the KJV anymore too much. It's the ESV, or the NASB, or one of the others mentioned. My older brother got a masters in theology in a Baptist Seminary, and he refers to the KJV as "archaic". Archaic? Understandably, they do not see their folly with this use of many translations, because they have forgotten what the KJV even said. There are many alterations and not by translation, to the KJV, and other translations as well. There is NO mention of Love in 1 Corinthians chapter 13. Some referred to this chapter as the Chapter of Love. It is not. It could only be the chapter of Charity now. Judge not, lest ye be judged, DOES NOT EXIST IN ANY TRANSLATION. The word Matrix has replaced Womb, Unicorn has replaced wild ox, the wolf now dwells with the lamb, rather than the lion lying down with the lamb. We now have a prophet named, Jeremy. Men are recorded as being able to produce breast milk in Numbers 11:2 and Isaiah 60:16. James 1:25 referred to being a Doer of the Word, but now it's a doer of the WORK, and people will deny it saying the bible cannot change. I have many more examples, for anyone who has eyes to see.
Some of these things are residue from the GARBC separation from the Northern Baptist Convention. During the Modernist schism some congregations lost their property and this caused the GARBC founders to emphasize that they weren't a convention and that the local church had no hierarchy above it. Thank you for what I regard as a fair and accurate description of the GARBC that I grew up in, went to a GARBC approved college, and have been a member for all my adult life.
My grandparents grew up in the "Old Regular Baptist" tradition. Specifically Old Indian Bottom Association, and the Indian Bottom Association. They are extremely calvinistic on some ideas (things like inability to seek out God). They also do things like no bible studies, no youth groups, no missionary work, no tithing, and exclusive use of the KJV. They also Line sing, and use no music.
Grew up Conservative Baptist. Learned 5 point Calvinism. Never agreed with Limited Atonement. The argument was always one of logic. But it was never based on biblical texts. It was a therefore. But that logic conflicts with several "absolute" passages. I.e. For God so loved THE WORLD (not just the elect) that he gave his only begotten Son that WHOEVER believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. Behold I stand at the door and knock. If ANYONE hears my voice and opens the door I will come in. Yes, we know without God's power and grace upon us, we won't/wouldn't choose him. However, the offer, the sacrifice, the opportunity, and the love was for anyone. But we all have turned away and would stay so if not for God's choice to show the elect grace and enable them to seek him. TUIP. 4 point Calvinist I am.
One of the better groups of churches out there along with the IFCA International, Evangelical Free and Open Brethren. Probably the best that goes by the name of Baptist.
I am Missionary Baptist and we use the New Hampshire confession of faith there is the original 1833 and then there is a updated version That Was Written In 1855.
I have read that they hold to the New Hampshire confession of faith which I have heard others call Calvinism lite or four point Calvinism but rejecting limited atonement and holding to unlimited atonement. Is this accurate?
Are GARB or independent Fundamentalist Baptists more conservative or does it vary not only between each other but also within each camp? I attended school at a Calvary Baptist GARB school in the mid 1970's. The core founding group of that church had pulled from the Methodist church. Also what happened to or where do you find true conservative Baptists? Where ladies and girls do not cut their hair and they wear dresses or skirts and avoid gold, silver, and costly array - jewelry?
Irregular Baptists where called that because they didn't believe in Calvinism/Reformed theology which was extremely popular back in the 1800s and 1900s.
If these Baptist churches are autonomous and independent, then why is there an organization of the generalization of regular Baptist churches? If they were autonomous there would not need be an association JS
This is a way of connecting with like-minded churches. Think of it more like a club you join as opposed to the governmental structure that many denominations have.
GARB General Association of REPUBLICAN Baptists. I'll stay as a conservative liturgical Christian. Used be a Baptist and I loathe modern worship. Thank you.
Hello shamrock I guess you have not heard that the Episcopal Church used to be known as the Republican party at pray The Episcopal Church is rather liturgical
@@SmartVideosJarkaWatched if you start with one man and one woman, then you really don't have any other options. And since the Bible is clear that we all came from Adam and Eve, that must mean that is the way it was.
@@jay144k Then you grow up, and you see that people aren't always proud of their history---not proud enough to record it & teach it to their children. I think of the Tulsa (Oklahoma) race-riots. I LIVE in Oklahoma, and I didn't learn about those since the late 2010s! Anyway; "According to The Bible," Adam & Eve only had Cain & Abel before Cain killed Abel & they had Seth.
"Regular Baptists"?...... As opposed to "Irregular Baptists"?? Well, for the "Irregular Baptists", there's the ecumenical Phillips Milk of Magnesia, but that's SERIOUSLY getting into the realms of TMI! 🙂
Shalom! Would you please do an in depth video on the Hebrew Pentecostal Federation? Their churches are called “House of God.” They are Hebrew Christians. Similar to messianic Jews, both testaments are of equal value, keep a strict kosher diet as outlined in the Torah, & you can find many of them wearing kippahs (or yarmulkes), the mandated holy feasts (or holy days [Yom Kippur, Rosh ha Shanna, Chanukkah, etc.]), & maintain a Presbyterian governmental polity. Their most notable member was singer, Marvin Gaye who grew up in their ministry before growing up, & turning to secular music. Shalom!
Regardless of everything else about them, how can someone say that thou shalt not kill means abortion is immoral yet actively oppose abolition of the death penalty. They say the scripture gives the state (aka government) the authority to use capital punishment but i still find that hypocritical. If the state directly authorized an abortion would that make it okay to these folk? I feel like they giving the state too much authority over what killing is "justified". I think its possible to be anti-abortion and pro-capital punishment without those views conflicting with each other but not with these folks' reasoning on it.
I realize this is an old post, but I want to give some clarity to your question. The command given was don't murder, not don't kill. If they were told not to kill at all, then God would have been a hypocrite by having the Israelites conquer the promised land. God set up capital punishment for certain crimes. This is not murder. This is justice. Killing a baby in the womb is not justice. It is murder.
The denomination is Baptist. The name Regular Baptist is a fellowship of like-minded churches. Our church was in GARBC fellowship when I first joined. A new pastor led the church out, although I'm not sure why. We would agree to everything touched on here. He arrived on maintaining an Independent Baptist stance, but I would believe that fellowship with them wouldn't keep us from that.
Umm...Baptists whose diets include a lot of fiber? / Sorry. Couldn't resist. // Grew up frequently attending Wednesday night dinners in the Fellowship Hall before choir practice /// After four drumsticks of excellent fried chicken, my middle-school self wanted to sleep through choir practice //// My middle-aged self, however, if I tried to do the same thing today, would need the extra fiber...
Capital Punsihement is not murder, it's obligationed execution of treasspaser. Your quotes are erronuely assuming that Law of Moses commit Error while condeming killing and ordering killing murders. Every position of churches who opose abortion and support capital punishenet is valid and understanable.
The thoroughness of your research blows my mind and is appreciated!
Thanks Dawn! I would hate to leave anything important out.
Seriously! He must have spent a lot of hours reading all those annual resolutions. I have been in the GARBC all my life and am always surprised when anyone has ever heard of us, let alone researched what we believe.
I guess that's better than being an irregular Baptist.....
A glass of miralax will fix them right up.
I grew up in the GARBC and this video is spot on
I have great appreciation for the GARBC. Their publishing house produces some of the best curriculum. Thank you for doing a feature on them.
I agree. I used their Sunday School curriculum for years and it was unmatched by others.
Where is Sunday School mentioned is the New Testament?
@@janeyue7491 What a silly question.
@@caleschnell It is not a silly question. We can't find Sunday School mentioned in the scriptures. We also cannot find the use of musical instruments used in the New Testament.
@@janeyue7491 yeah, and?
I'm a member of one of these churces here in Brazil for a long time, any questions you guys have just comment here! We probably never have videos done about us ever lol
When they say "orthodox beliefs", does that mean they have beliefs similar to the Orthodox Church? Or no?
@@PhantomRaider100 no, not at all. In a sense of being the established views, more traditional views.
@@GWEBrasil15 Oooh, I see what you mean, thanks for the info!
My father was from eastern Kentucky, the heartland of the Old Regular Baptist Church. The main thing a recall that differentiates it from the church described in this video is that the Old Regulars definitely love the King James Bible and see it as the only English version that should be read.
Addition: As I remember, the Old Regulars "line out" their hymns and don't use any instruments in their services, so definitely no debate about contemporary music.
I'm a member of one of these churces here in Brazil for a long time, this does not apply here . We read any good version that is considered a good translation from the original greek
@@dr.casebolt It depends on the church. Some ban instruments and even still use the old shape-note hymnals, which I find fascinating and enjoy hearing because it produces a unique performance (which I promise I don't mean as a backhanded compliment, but it kind of sounds like one now that I re-read it). On the other hand, I've personally been to multiple Old Regular churches that have guitar and organ/piano music. It all depends, I guess. Especially in Appalachia, there's a lot of crossover between churches, and sometimes Old Regular Baptists, Primitive Baptists, Pentecostals and even Christian (denomination) churches seem to share some practices as attendees move back and forth between churches.
No one seems to read the KJV anymore too much. It's the ESV, or the NASB, or one of the others mentioned.
My older brother got a masters in theology in a Baptist Seminary, and he refers to the KJV as "archaic".
Archaic? Understandably, they do not see their folly with this use of many translations, because they have forgotten what the KJV even said.
There are many alterations and not by translation, to the KJV, and other translations as well.
There is NO mention of Love in 1 Corinthians chapter 13. Some referred to this chapter as the Chapter of Love. It is not. It could only be the chapter of Charity now.
Judge not, lest ye be judged, DOES NOT EXIST IN ANY TRANSLATION.
The word Matrix has replaced Womb, Unicorn has replaced wild ox, the wolf now dwells with the lamb, rather than the lion lying down with the lamb.
We now have a prophet named, Jeremy. Men are recorded as being able to produce breast milk in Numbers 11:2 and Isaiah 60:16.
James 1:25 referred to being a Doer of the Word, but now it's a doer of the WORK, and people will deny it saying the bible cannot change.
I have many more examples, for anyone who has eyes to see.
I live in Pikeville.
Some of these things are residue from the GARBC separation from the Northern Baptist Convention. During the Modernist schism some congregations lost their property and this caused the GARBC founders to emphasize that they weren't a convention and that the local church had no hierarchy above it. Thank you for what I regard as a fair and accurate description of the GARBC that I grew up in, went to a GARBC approved college, and have been a member for all my adult life.
My grandparents grew up in the "Old Regular Baptist" tradition. Specifically Old Indian Bottom Association, and the Indian Bottom Association. They are extremely calvinistic on some ideas (things like inability to seek out God). They also do things like no bible studies, no youth groups, no missionary work, no tithing, and exclusive use of the KJV. They also Line sing, and use no music.
Not really the same as the GARBC. But I've read about the ORB too. Thanks for the info!
Seems like your grandparents were Primitive Baptist.
You should do a video on the Old Regular Baptist’s.
Thank you for doing this video
I grew up in it (Waterloo, Iowa). It put some good solid awe of God and doctrine in me. No regrets. (BBF now) (edited spelling)
It's Fun Listening To All The Detailed Particulars Of Denominational Requirements.
Awesome! Thanks for this. Your channel is awesome
I love your videos! Would you consider making one about sedevacantist Catholics?
Once again excellent work.
Grew up Conservative Baptist. Learned 5 point Calvinism. Never agreed with Limited Atonement. The argument was always one of logic. But it was never based on biblical texts. It was a therefore. But that logic conflicts with several "absolute" passages. I.e. For God so loved THE WORLD (not just the elect) that he gave his only begotten Son that WHOEVER believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. Behold I stand at the door and knock. If ANYONE hears my voice and opens the door I will come in. Yes, we know without God's power and grace upon us, we won't/wouldn't choose him. However, the offer, the sacrifice, the opportunity, and the love was for anyone. But we all have turned away and would stay so if not for God's choice to show the elect grace and enable them to seek him. TUIP. 4 point Calvinist I am.
Good job on your videos. Could you do one on the Seventh-day Adventist Church please?
Interesting video, I had never heard of them
Thank you!
Are they the Baptists who eat copious amounts of fiber? (I'll show myself out now.)
No. Regular Baptists are just your plain ol Baptists not more fringe groups like Westboro Baptist Church
You stole my comment!
Have you ever done a video on the Missionary Baptist Church?
Nicely done
One of the better groups of churches out there along with the IFCA International, Evangelical Free and Open Brethren. Probably the best that goes by the name of Baptist.
I am Missionary Baptist and we use the New Hampshire confession of faith there is the original 1833 and then there is a updated version That Was Written In 1855.
Seems like a good denomination
Hi pls do a video about bible baptists which are common here in the Philippines
I have read that they hold to the New Hampshire confession of faith which I have heard others call Calvinism lite or four point Calvinism but rejecting limited atonement and holding to unlimited atonement. Is this accurate?
That GARBC sounds like what I am.
The church where I go is basically an. "unaffiliated Baptist" church.
Would be really great to see you cover the Independent Sacramental Movement
nice!
I used to go to a Gargage Baptist Church lol
Are GARB or independent Fundamentalist Baptists more conservative or does it vary not only between each other but also within each camp? I attended school at a Calvary Baptist GARB school in the mid 1970's. The core founding group of that church had pulled from the Methodist church. Also what happened to or where do you find true conservative Baptists? Where ladies and girls do not cut their hair and they wear dresses or skirts and avoid gold, silver, and costly array - jewelry?
Can we get Oneness Pentecostals at some point.
I've been working on UPCI the last couple of days. Video probably in December or January.
@@ReadyToHarvest Wow, how long does it usually take you to from start to finish to complete a video?
Whats the difference between the denomination, the church ?
Great channel, but could you speak a little more slowly? Thanks.
Ok then
What’s an irregular Baptist Church
Irregular Baptists where called that because they didn't believe in Calvinism/Reformed theology which was extremely popular back in the 1800s and 1900s.
If these Baptist churches are autonomous and independent, then why is there an organization of the generalization of regular Baptist churches? If they were autonomous there would not need be an association JS
This is a way of connecting with like-minded churches. Think of it more like a club you join as opposed to the governmental structure that many denominations have.
What about the NAFBC?
Assuming you are referring to NAFWB, a video on them is coming later this year.
Is there an “unleaded” Baptist? (Just a side joke) when vehicle fuel was either regular or unleaded.
GARB General Association of REPUBLICAN Baptists. I'll stay as a conservative liturgical Christian. Used be a Baptist and I loathe modern worship. Thank you.
nice try at politicizing it.
Hello shamrock
I guess you have not heard that the Episcopal Church used to be known as the Republican party at pray
The Episcopal Church is rather liturgical
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17:40 Does this mean that the GARBC is historically white?
Do you know what they say about Cain's wife etc. (if "all humans descended from Adam & Eve")?
His wife was either his sister or his niece.
@@jay144k Says who?
@@SmartVideosJarkaWatched if you start with one man and one woman, then you really don't have any other options. And since the Bible is clear that we all came from Adam and Eve, that must mean that is the way it was.
@@jay144k Then you grow up, and you see that people aren't always proud of their history---not proud enough to record it & teach it to their children.
I think of the Tulsa (Oklahoma) race-riots. I LIVE in Oklahoma, and I didn't learn about those since the late 2010s!
Anyway; "According to The Bible," Adam & Eve only had Cain & Abel before Cain killed Abel & they had Seth.
What’s your denomination? Just curious….
Guys we're Baptists but like regular baptists
"Regular Baptists"?...... As opposed to "Irregular Baptists"??
Well, for the "Irregular Baptists", there's the ecumenical Phillips Milk of Magnesia, but that's SERIOUSLY getting into the realms of TMI! 🙂
Jesus Christ is the ONLY one who can save and is the ONLY way to Heaven.
ah yes, the general association of regular baptists. similar to the completely normal convention of unassuming methodists
Shalom! Would you please do an in depth video on the Hebrew Pentecostal Federation? Their churches are called “House of God.” They are Hebrew Christians. Similar to messianic Jews, both testaments are of equal value, keep a strict kosher diet as outlined in the Torah, & you can find many of them wearing kippahs (or yarmulkes), the mandated holy feasts (or holy days [Yom Kippur, Rosh ha Shanna, Chanukkah, etc.]), & maintain a Presbyterian governmental polity. Their most notable member was singer, Marvin Gaye who grew up in their ministry before growing up, & turning to secular music. Shalom!
this is soooo thoro
Get your Bible back open !
Regardless of everything else about them, how can someone say that thou shalt not kill means abortion is immoral yet actively oppose abolition of the death penalty. They say the scripture gives the state (aka government) the authority to use capital punishment but i still find that hypocritical. If the state directly authorized an abortion would that make it okay to these folk? I feel like they giving the state too much authority over what killing is "justified". I think its possible to be anti-abortion and pro-capital punishment without those views conflicting with each other but not with these folks' reasoning on it.
I realize this is an old post, but I want to give some clarity to your question.
The command given was don't murder, not don't kill. If they were told not to kill at all, then God would have been a hypocrite by having the Israelites conquer the promised land.
God set up capital punishment for certain crimes. This is not murder. This is justice.
Killing a baby in the womb is not justice. It is murder.
Irregular Baptists, LOL!
Honestly some of these denominations have such funny names
The denomination is Baptist. The name Regular Baptist is a fellowship of like-minded churches. Our church was in GARBC fellowship when I first joined. A new pastor led the church out, although I'm not sure why. We would agree to everything touched on here. He arrived on maintaining an Independent Baptist stance, but I would believe that fellowship with them wouldn't keep us from that.
@@nocturnalmadness9517 ok
I'm collecting all of this information for the churches I wont visit
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Umm...Baptists whose diets include a lot of fiber?
/ Sorry. Couldn't resist.
// Grew up frequently attending Wednesday night dinners in the Fellowship Hall before choir practice
/// After four drumsticks of excellent fried chicken, my middle-school self wanted to sleep through choir practice
//// My middle-aged self, however, if I tried to do the same thing today, would need the extra fiber...
Please rename yourselves vanilla Baptists, it'll save a lot of confusion 🤣
Normal Baptists, maybe?
"We oppose abortion because thou shalt not kill"
"We are in favor of capital punishment"
Your research and documentation is still great
Capital Punsihement is not murder, it's obligationed execution of treasspaser.
Your quotes are erronuely assuming that Law of Moses commit Error while condeming killing and ordering killing murders.
Every position of churches who opose abortion and support capital punishenet is valid and understanable.
Protestants are funny.