That flap is called a Boot, I was in the Army and had to teach people how to change split rims, always told them "You can't fight a tire, but you can out think them" .
Funny you should mention the Army and split rims. I was USMC and learned how to change tires on forklifts with segmented rim locks. Same idea as a retaining ring, but 4 or 5 sections of cast steel. 125 psi. Fun, fun, fun!
Army Vet here, too. Back when I was just a Lieutenant, I had a medium truck platoon -- 20 tractors and 40 semitrailers in my fleet. Adds up to 580 split rim tires -- we were changing a couple every day. My Platoon Sergeant and I would challenge the troops to a contest. Any two of them against us - dismounting the tire, breaking the beads, replacing the tube, reinflation and back on the vehicle. They never beat us. (Think here was something to the fact that he and I each averaged some 6 inches and probably 50 pounds over the average soldier.)
Me: I'm gonna get some laundry done and be productive.
Also Me: I should probably watch this guy change some grater tires first...
DC should invest a couple hundred bucks to a sand blasting booth. That needle thing is just a waste of time.
That was my question--- a needle scaler vs a sandblasting job. Just asking.😃👽
The procedure you used was exactly correct. When I was in the army in 1975 to 1983 a split ring came off and decapitated a soldier that was standing over the tire while inflating. Thank you for your videos.
When I was kid running dump trucks for a friend we changed our slit ring tires ourselves. He always made me leave the chains on till on the truck. I thought it was overkill then but appreciate it now. Never had a problem.
That uhhh.. sounds miserable. There was that video out of Brazil where a widowmaker pops its rim and hits the guy in the neck, killing him instantly a few days before he was set to retire.
When I work at a scrap yard we use to get lot split rings with dry rot tire on from people scrapping them or some old heavy equipment or truck that still use it would be scary time I grew up in trucking family lot old yard truck had spit rim my family Warned us don't close tires and be cautious
I agree, the back tires need replaced too. They look just as bad as the fronts were
No need to replace the remaining tires. If you consider this grader
is only to be used to run back and forth on his driveway. They
hold air well....lots of service probably left for use on how he
is to be using them.
@@krashdown102 A truer statement couldn't be made. Get it running properly, then worry about the secondary bits.
I would have gotten to the “screw this, I’m cutting it off” waaay earlier than you did.
@@DG-ss1gc Deflate it first and that'd probably work, although I've never had experience with split rims but logically it makes sense
A trick I would have used if the machine still runs try turning left and right while moving forward and backwards with all the air let out of the tires unless actually glued to the rim they usually come off for me.
So Christine isn't cursed, just mad that you've been telling everyone she's older than she actually is.
Hey Son, if you inflate the tube just enough to fill it out then install your rust flap it won’t cross up on you. 😉✌️😎
I was changing the tube in a 17.5-25 L2 tire and after finishing it up and putting it back on the machine I discovered the next morning that the tube wasn't any good. So I pulled that one out went and argued with the people who sold it to me for a new tube and got that one stuck between the two liners and tore a hole in it. I bought the third tube from someone else and made damn sure it didn't get caught and I also aired it up on the ground to about 20 lbs and let it set overnight this time before putting it back on the machine. I think Picasso would have painted in reds if he heard my blue period.
i have changed lots of tires with that type of wheel, my father owned a logging truck for 62 years, we never had a tire breaking hammer, we used a 3" piece of angle iron about 5" long and beat that with a sledge hammer, you lay it next to the rim with the corner side up, stood on the far side of the wheel and beat it in under the rim, knock it out and move it over a little, when the angle iron got squished down a little it worked better, we never left the wheel when we were putting the air in, we watched the locking ring and would tap it with a ballpeen, if it didn't look ok we let the air out and started again, Saturday morning, hug over as hell, beating truck tires..lol
"Judicious application of appropriate force", is my favourite phrase when beating on. Also, if it doesn't move, get a bigger hammer... great series, keep 'em coming! 👍
New Tires Look great Sweet Looking Kicks Matt Christian going to love that 31:53 @Diesel Creek
Reminded me of a time we recieved several new graders by rail.The graders were being processed as soon as they were unloaded,then put to work pushing snow.Drivers were complaining that machines had no steering control at all.I told the person that was processing the machines to deflate the tires to 25 PSI.Everyone started telling me I was crazy,until I went to processing site showed the person in charge the wording embossed into the tire that stated that the tires should be operated at 25PSI cold.When the graders were loaded on to flatcars to be shipped the tires were inflated to 65PSI as required by saftey procedures spelled out in the manual. Still took over an hour to convince that group that the tires were made to operate at 25 PSI cold.
@@Jehty_ This was done after tie down on rail car to make sure grader did not bounce up and down during
transport.Bouncing up and down could cause tie downs to loosen or break.Of course this could cause a very bad accident.
@@Jehty_ Also during long term storage, higher pressure is used to prevent flat spots. The tires of new cars in the dealership I work for are kept at 40psi. Most of the cars should be around 33psi.
lol...it seem to have nearly take You a persuador[hammer] to make them at least try it...use it in their heads.
Yes Christine deserves new shoe all the way around.
Great job! Good to know how to be safe using chains in case the ring let go.
Years ago, I have seen people re-inflate motor grader tires inside a safety cage, and when that ring came off, it bowed the whole cage with a BIG BANG!!! They didn't pay attention to detail when putting it back together making sure the ring was seated.
PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST PROJECTS YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING ON.....WELL,,ALL YOUR PROJECTS ARE KICK ASS!!!
It's good to see someone who isn't afraid of working with split rims. I never had an issue with them as a tire tech. As you said, it's just a matter of being careful and knowing what you are doing.
By the time Christine is done she's gonna be a purdy girl that's for sure
Nice video. That color is beautiful. I'm already looking forward to seeing it all in yellow. I fell in love with this shade as a boy. Yellow Caterpillars are amazing. Thanks.
Hey Matt my name is Matt also, well I been watching your channel for a week now and i get so in to your projects i wish i could give you a hand some day I really really enjoy every min great job cant wait for more projects later matt
Shake hands with danger are some of the greatest videos out there.
Been having Diesel Creek withdrawals ...
Oh, man. I remember working on those old split rim wheels when I was in the army. Seating the bead can be a widowmaker, even if you inspect the split rim and are confident it’s seated properly.
Howdyyawl from the land down under. Regarding split rim removal, make sure tyre is dead flat, put a tarp or heavy bag over ring first while taking off. We had 6 trucks when we had the scrap yard. When pumping up. always face tje ring away. If it comes off it can't hit anyone.😊
Great to see more progress on this project, Matt! Best regards from Germany!
Hey glad to see you back here! Can’t wait to see some lathe restoration on your end!
Wait, what? I've found TPAI this week and I've seen like maybe 5 episodes and now this? Are This Old Tony and Tavarish also watching? Daaaaamn. Greetings from Poland ;)
def. tires all the way around to represent your company well on jobs, the appearance of machines tells a lot to the customer i found out
I cheered to myself when you said you were going to paint the rims
Back when I was much younger and quite a bit dumber. I worked in a tire shop. I remember the first time I had to go out in the field and change a set of those tires. This was so many years ago, the service trucks were pick up trucks with a tool box and air tanks thrown in the back. Chills kept running my spine. lol
At least I have something to watch while at work!
It's awesome seeing someone still willing to work on multi piece rims. I agree there's a lot of bad misconceptions about them, most of which came from people who don't know what the hell they're doing.
Matt is at his best when Throwing SPARKS.
" Done messing around!!!"
Matching tires makes it look more professional. Great job on the split rims!!😮
The tire guy that did our split rims back in the late 70's was missing an arm yet still swung the debeading hammer better then I could. Gotta "hand " it to him for perseverance.
I love that old grader! I can’t wait to see it scraping your driveway. She definitely needs new shoes on the rear, too.
You did an awesome job with Christina 👍 Love your content Matt
I am enjoying this project, love old graders
Im 70 years old fixed a lot of split rim and three piece rims and still do. A tire hammer and a bead breaking spoon dont cost much and make the job easier. Also soak the bead with diesel fuel or used engine oil and it will soften the rubber and greatly help. Especially if you can set them out in the hot sun . And it dont cost much in time and material to build a tire cage. The chains are Ok.
I like your attitude. You got a positive, can do mentality. That's basically Old School American thinking.
Christine deserves new tires all around. Better safe than sorry. Even if she won't break any speed laws.
I was a milkman owner operator of a 5 ton milk truck. I changed tires on many 20 inch split rims in my driveway and didn't die once!
Love the shake hands with danger reference 😂 you are definitely my kind of people!
Watch out for those wheel wedges. You need to back off the fasteners and slug the wheel until all of the wedges pop loose. Then remove the fasteners. If you service enough wheels you'll eventually find out how much pressure they can have behind them.
Yeah I have them explode off the rim and hit me in the shin before , talk about a lesson to be learned the hard way .
@@Wulfmoon9 That is NOT widow makers, widow makers are a Firestone design, and split in the center, of the rim width, and you have no way of knowing if it’s seated probably!
They are something else!
And because they was so dangerous, those rims that we se here, was branded as “safety wheels”, and yes they are dangerous, but it’s more “be safe attitude” that will save your life, not the actual rim!
@@jimmymckay73 yup good way to end up with a broken jaw sticking your face right down there
She is starting to clean up great, getting her act together you could say. Once you see her with 2 new shoes, you kinda got to wonder what 4 more might look like
Id have had an old zip disk on that Jurassic tire long before the skid loader. I remember helping my Dad and Grandad change the tractor tires with split rims... They used the chains too.
Same tires would look awesome!! She deserves it.
Fitting those new 'socks' was a battle, but one that you won and the beast looks all the better for them. Perhaps getting her mobile once more is the next priority, but the other tyres should be a fairly early step towards her being useful once more. I guess the hydraulic lines may be another stepping stone to a fully working reliable machine, but one step at a time.
im trying to find that size tire for my galion, hes about the same vintage as christine and has truck recaps on it, i thought about upgrading to flotation tires, but the double 60 drive chains will never stand the torque. later versions, and allis chalmers all went to double 100 chains which helped. and a little trick, the front tires are generally mounted backwards which helps the steering to bite when drifting a windrow as well as when turning. it really helps on the larger graders, but the smaller units still take forever to turn any way! look forward to your next installment! stay safe, keith
Love these videos!
And I proudly rock my Christine t-shirts while pouring concrete during the day ❤️
Observing your repairs to Christine is interesting. First time I have seen what goes on for such a beastie.
Should be hammering on the rings when the airs going in so they seat in
During my days in the Army I must have replaced dozens of grader tires. We ran them on the road far too much. They used the same 3 piece wheels but were tubeless. The new tires we got had been stacked for so long they were like pancakes and were a bear to get to seal on the rim. Uncle Sam didn't allow the either trick, so some tires took hours to air up. Thanks for the memories Matt! I'm looking forward to seeing Christine at work again.
No shortcuts for you Matt. As usual you are determined in all you do and hold to your standards. Have been catching up with all your episodes, all of which are really first class lesson in patience and determination. Keep up the good work. Regards from Scotland. Stay safe and well!
Lovely, hope the old girl gets all her shoes over time
BOOM! That's all I remember, once, when Dad and I changed tires. The truck, was a 1967 F 250. We were on our way home, when the rapid dismounting happened. Turns out the lock ring wasn't fully seated.
Hope you are having a great day. About the third time I have watched this one. Yes put new shoes all the way around.
Matt, I like that you address Christine by her name. I hope you do that with all your future mechanical family members!
I could almost taste the iron watching you scale that rim!
She's a cool old machine and will be even better once he is finished
Would love to see the machine with a fresh coat of paint and new tires all around
Ahh good old Window Maker Wheels There on everything From that time Era Matt 0:10 @Diesel Creek
Matt, Christine is worth getting her pretty again. You won’t regret it. Great video
Those rims look like a good candidates for electronic rust removal.
I was also wondering bead or sand blasting. But not familiar with removing rust. Impressive work.
dont take all the rust off of these rims, it looks like the rust is holding them together!!
Haven't heard a needle gun in many a year, since my last ship in the Navy before I retired! I could have gone another 20 years without hearing it again!
Back in the day I had to repair, on average, 8 of these a night. did that for 6 years. Swinging a bead hammer is an art. never had one blow, but I also used a cage religiously to inflate. You are right, clip the chuck on and walk away.
i love that expression "i almost gave up twice but I beat it". important life lesson there
@@DieselCreek old tire bead judo. let the air out while it's still on the vehicle and drive (or tow) the vehicle with the flat tire until the bead comes off or at least loosens up.
@@DieselCreek I would have gotten all the essentials ironed out before replacing worn tires (that still hold air). Also, If those front wheels have neither drive shafts nor brakes, how important is good tread anyway? So I suggest swapping the new tires to wheels with drive and brakes, and getting just about everything else working on that grader before ordering more tires. Wait until you do a job and find that tires are your biggest problem. Are all the wheels the same?
GRATE VID MAN. AT LEAST I KNOW I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO CUTS TIRES OF RIMS
Some UA-cam people talk and move slowly and drive me crazy. You talk and move slowly and I relax and watch. You have a pleasant way of moving amd describing your topic. I am watching this project from beginning to end.
The chevrons go backwards on the front of a grader. It helps with steering.
you are right need to be swaped around since the front tires are being pushed and not driven
Agreed, they are like that in the old tyres, plus, your comment makes sense .
Good work Matt... I really like seeing any old equipment being brought back to 100% working condition, not restored & pretty, but functional for another 50 years of use
Most tire shops will not do split rimmed tires anymore, good thing you have the ability.
That split rim let's go it will take the top of your head clear off DANGEROUS
Should have mentioned that the tires are directional.
Recip saw makes taking the old tires off easy. Fun too...
after watching many of this guys projects all I can think is that I am glad that I was born with enough smarts to get a great job that I didn't have to bust my ass at and retired at 53. Most everything he's doing seems to fall in the bust my ass zone.
Matt, welcome back. Nice touch for the old grader. DEFINITELY put new treads on the back! (go big, or go home) I think a lot of us want to see you resurrect old Christine. She deserves it! (besides, if you do eventually decide to sell it, it will fetch top 💲)
I knew that "floor" would last ! Worst case, in 5 years, you may have to "top dress" it and re-compact.
The simplest way to "break the bead" on a big tire it to use a good sized hydraulic "bottle" jack. Place the jack under something heavy (like the rear of the grader) and then place the foot of the jack as close as possible to the rim.
Always a pleasure to watch people bring back to life old relics.
Hey Matt, those new boots look really good. I think Christine would really appreciate a complete set.
New shoes and a nice coat of rebuild and she's ready to party like its 1959!
Old Christine, is getting pampered!!! She got herself a nice set of new boots! Anyone that's ever dealt with rust knows that a needle scaler is an essential tool, and damn near worth its weight in gold. Better to chip away at the chunks of 'scaley' rust, rather than use something like a wire wheel which essentially just polishes the rust particles lol. Nice work man, getting one step closer to getting this old lady back on the streets.
"Lube always makes things easier, doesn't it?" Yes, yes Matt, it does.
We built a cage out of steel tubing. Built it bigger than our largest split rim. You assembled the tire, tube and rim, stood it up and rolled it in to the cage. Put your chuck on it and never had a worry. Worked great if you a bead broken and just wanted to seal it with a little ether and a torch too.
My first job in High school, truck and tractor tires.
I was sitting here wondering when you would get out a Sawzall and cut the tires off. A commercial tire shop we used to take split rims to for repairs in the 80s quit doing them after two of their guys ended up in the E.R. injured.
You would think that a "tire shop" would have a inflation cage for that task. Most shops do!
I thought the same thing but I honestly don’t remember seeing a cage there. It was kind of a rag tag operation.
Yeah, I was thinking the same. You gotta be smart when playing with those!
This may sound ridiculous but what Matt is doing is what I was born to learn and born to do. I only wish it had been so. Thank you, Matt, for letting me live vicariously through you.
I made my own slid hammer out f pipes and solid bar that’s slide in a piece of pipe, and I shaped the end like a wedge Blunt end and weld some weight on the handle end , I made my slide hammers my self way back in the 70 s , been in my Arsenal of tools ⚒️ for ever, thanks , praise Jesus grace amen, BigAl California.
Matt, Non-driven tires should be mounted with the tread pattern facing the other direction. There may be arrows on the tire showing this. Just swap the tires side to side.
Having the studs come off is better than having them break, right?
Got me laughing when I read that. Shake hands with danger. Those old videos were stupid funny.
Wow, I am surprised with about 1200 comments, no one has suggested that I have seen to pour transmission guild around the beads and the locking rings and let sit for awhile. Having equipment, use an outrigger or bucket to assist breaking beads.
From what I have seen and have done a few thousand over the years, you did it right for not having the proper equipment. We always used needle fingers and wire wheel, then repaint. At the sho we sand basted them then repainted. And without a cage, yep we chained them too! Great job!
The only thing I would say is while you can mount the directional tires on the front as you did, but the front should be reverses to allow to slip when turning.
Other than that Matt, as an old time equipment operator, great job and give her a new set of rear tires when you can afford it!
Yes sir. She is looking fine with those perty shoes.
Hey Matt, you might want draw attention to the tires being directional
Love to see this old stuff brought back to life!!!
Christine looking great 🤘
Absolutely she’ll be a great machine with all new sneakers
Everyone has their own way doing things, one thing I picked up was leave the valve core out when you first fully inflate. If the poo hits the fan you can pull the airline off your tank and drain the air from the tyre fast from a safe place much faster than if the core is in. I always walk off when they change split rims on site, they give me the chills.
I have been enjoying your videos so far. I had a split rim blow inside a cage. Scared the heck out of the guys inside the shop!
Yes I like to see you fix the old greader and it looks good with alls brand new tires
Love the "shake hands with danger" in the thumbnail...classic😁
One of the first safety films I was shown to hilight dangers operators and mechanics face. Produced with Caterpillar's input, fyi.
Where danger
@@pettsonochfindusdvd4787 I owned one that same thing happened on mine so it is scrap and parts for me
I love those videos I think they should be shown in school
Dont worry, as long as the guitar rift doesnt start playing, you're fine.