disappointed with the drafting issue at my first IM. there was a group of 10+ riders close to my speed. less than 100W when I was behind them. But to pass them, I had to go above my power targets by 50W. 90 miles in I passed the group one final time, was ahead of the group for like 10 miles, before they eventually caught up to me and passed me back. One of them even said "thanks for the pull"
Concerning drafting (in the training with other riders): have you ever made a video on how to install a third brake lever on the aero skies, so it works sufficient? For example, those brake levers offered by Jtek which you could "add" to your mechanical bar end shifter did not work at all, they even were not sufficient for recognizeable slowing down, not to mention slowing down to zero. Or is it a good alternative to to switch the brake lever for the rear brake from the base bar to the ski, so you can slow down at traffic lights or roundabouts with one hand on the base bar an one on one ski, and in a group ride you have the possibility to brake in the aero position.
Most of the races I do are draft legal, it would be very difficult otherwise: narrow roads, packed starts… And for the ones that are non drafting I don’t have a TT bike or aero bars, so I don’t do as many of them anyway 😅 . And on these people still draft, but I do as suggested: do my best to not draft, wait for a section where I can overtake and don’t bother much when someone gets on my wheel.
Maybe races should have a lower number of participants allowed and courses that are best suited for non drafting rules (no circuits, just one big loop of 90-180km). Unfortunately this would bring higher registering fees.
This is the problem with IM Wisconsin. 16mi out to 2 x 40 mi loops and 16 back. At some point out of 2200-2300 participants, roughly 2000 will be on the loop at the same time. Thats 50 riders per mile on the loop, or .02 miles between each rider if evenly spaced out. There are clumps of riders all over needless to say.
I still struggle to see why drafting is such an issue, with triathlon being popular, there are lots of courses, where it is impossible to strictly adhere to drafting rules. Drafting and tactics are also a big part of bike racing.
@@gtnnot all, but certainly more. I come from a cycling background, and my swim is my weakest discipline, the bike my strongest, drafting rules make my life difficult. I don't care too mich about drafting off others, as most people around me when I leave the water are too slow to benefit from anyway, I also dont care about giving somone a bit of a pull, as mostly they can't keep up anyway long enough to matter (I am a really slow swimmer). Relaxing rules wouldcmake passing easier. It would also force me to sort my swim out.
Important: when you pass someone, do NOT ease off and slow down once you've passed. Build a sizable gap before you let up. It's very unfair on the rider you just passed.
Tips to avoid penalties as per the video, know the rules (draft range), keep your pace even, pass at the right time to maintain your lead and not fall back be repassed, especially when passing a blob, finally, be nice and enjoy😊
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Yes, cycle in front. No one to draft behind, no frustrations all good. 🤪
Am a beginner, with cycling. When you attempt to pass, do you announce "on your left?"" or do you just make the pass?
@@andrealovestorun generally this is good courtesy
disappointed with the drafting issue at my first IM. there was a group of 10+ riders close to my speed. less than 100W when I was behind them. But to pass them, I had to go above my power targets by 50W. 90 miles in I passed the group one final time, was ahead of the group for like 10 miles, before they eventually caught up to me and passed me back. One of them even said "thanks for the pull"
Does your last point specifically implement not hitting the offender with your mini pump or tie their shoes together in T2? Asking for a friend 😇
What about a good old targeted snoot rocket?
Concerning drafting (in the training with other riders): have you ever made a video on how to install a third brake lever on the aero skies, so it works sufficient? For example, those brake levers offered by Jtek which you could "add" to your mechanical bar end shifter did not work at all, they even were not sufficient for recognizeable slowing down, not to mention slowing down to zero. Or is it a good alternative to to switch the brake lever for the rear brake from the base bar to the ski, so you can slow down at traffic lights or roundabouts with one hand on the base bar an one on one ski, and in a group ride you have the possibility to brake in the aero position.
Most of the races I do are draft legal, it would be very difficult otherwise: narrow roads, packed starts… And for the ones that are non drafting I don’t have a TT bike or aero bars, so I don’t do as many of them anyway 😅 . And on these people still draft, but I do as suggested: do my best to not draft, wait for a section where I can overtake and don’t bother much when someone gets on my wheel.
Maybe races should have a lower number of participants allowed and courses that are best suited for non drafting rules (no circuits, just one big loop of 90-180km). Unfortunately this would bring higher registering fees.
This is the problem with IM Wisconsin. 16mi out to 2 x 40 mi loops and 16 back. At some point out of 2200-2300 participants, roughly 2000 will be on the loop at the same time. Thats 50 riders per mile on the loop, or .02 miles between each rider if evenly spaced out. There are clumps of riders all over needless to say.
After 35 years of triathlon - cheating is cheating no matter what spin you put on it.
Not sure I follow the point about optimal passing on a hill?
I still struggle to see why drafting is such an issue, with triathlon being popular, there are lots of courses, where it is impossible to strictly adhere to drafting rules. Drafting and tactics are also a big part of bike racing.
Do you wish all races were draft legal?
@@gtnnot all, but certainly more. I come from a cycling background, and my swim is my weakest discipline, the bike my strongest, drafting rules make my life difficult. I don't care too mich about drafting off others, as most people around me when I leave the water are too slow to benefit from anyway, I also dont care about giving somone a bit of a pull, as mostly they can't keep up anyway long enough to matter (I am a really slow swimmer). Relaxing rules wouldcmake passing easier. It would also force me to sort my swim out.
Dont be a duck?
Noted.
Important: when you pass someone, do NOT ease off and slow down once you've passed. Build a sizable gap before you let up. It's very unfair on the rider you just passed.
They literally say this in the video
So not a single reference to avoiding penalties? What is the point of the title of this video. This didn’t teach me anything.
Tips to avoid penalties as per the video, know the rules (draft range), keep your pace even, pass at the right time to maintain your lead and not fall back be repassed, especially when passing a blob, finally, be nice and enjoy😊
Nah, not at all