Testing LCBs (Lithium Ceramic Batteries) || The Future of Battery Technology?

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    In this video we will have a closer look at solid state lithium batteries, in particular LCBs (lithium ceramic batteries). We will determine their volumetric and gravimetric energy density and compare them to Li-Ion and Li-Po batteries. At the end we will conduct a couple of mechanical and electrical stress tests in order to demonstrate the big strength of this battery type, its safety.
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  • @voltlog
    @voltlog 6 років тому +780

    wow the safety aspect on that lcb battery is excellent, cutting a battery while it's running? you wouldn't dream doing this with another type of battery.

    • @sfsaviation
      @sfsaviation 6 років тому +12

      VoltLog imagine a lithium battery

    • @snjert8406
      @snjert8406 6 років тому +51

      @@sfsaviation those are all lithium batteries. They are just different types, like lithium-ion or lithium-polymer batteries.

    • @Kyle17206
      @Kyle17206 6 років тому +21

      I think with more research to improve the technology that this will end up being the next generation of batteries. They are much safer than the batteries we have today. Especially with the rise of electric vehicles, I think this technology has great potential if it had some more research for improvement.

    • @melgibson6331
      @melgibson6331 6 років тому +11

      I would cut a salt water battery in half and drink any that spills 😋

    • @3DRiley_
      @3DRiley_ 6 років тому +11

      @@Kyle17206 Someone correct me if I'm wrong but commercial electric road vehicles use othe types of rechargeable batteries because Li ones are a fire hazard and safety concern.
      Sure Li anything ones are used in forklifts etc but just imagine having one of these in your car, even a slight crash can cause a really bad and big metal fire
      Edit: I was a idiot of course road vehicles use Li batteries.

  • @nicolocatanese3477
    @nicolocatanese3477 5 років тому +1323

    They removed my favorite feature of li po batteries the explosion

  • @Skaytacium
    @Skaytacium 4 роки тому +439

    something : exists
    Scott : *_H I G H L I G H T_*

    • @lukmly013
      @lukmly013 4 роки тому +25

      At school: Highlight the important text
      2 minutes later: Green paper

  • @rafvanrompaey3791
    @rafvanrompaey3791 5 років тому +406

    Its "leviosa" not "ceramic"

    • @LumaControl
      @LumaControl 4 роки тому +8

      leviosar

    • @Mickocarbomb
      @Mickocarbomb 4 роки тому +24

      Keramic

    • @chrisakaschulbus4903
      @chrisakaschulbus4903 4 роки тому +1

      @@Mickocarbomb as if any name could be more german than "reichert"...

    • @forbiddenera
      @forbiddenera 4 роки тому +1

      Sir A Mic..sounds like a bad rapper

    • @chrisakaschulbus4903
      @chrisakaschulbus4903 4 роки тому +1

      @@forbiddenera "Sir A Mic..sounds like a bad rapper"
      says "IdealSound & Performance" :P

  • @SustainableGal
    @SustainableGal 5 років тому +60

    "K'eramic"

  • @dj_paultuk7052
    @dj_paultuk7052 6 років тому +295

    More smoke than a typical BigClive video. Excellent !.

    • @beedslolkuntus2070
      @beedslolkuntus2070 6 років тому +1

      mwalsher IKR 🙃🙃🙁🙁👍😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Krisztian5HUN
      @Krisztian5HUN 6 років тому +11

      go watch some diodegonewild for even more salt!

    • @rumahhafidzahbekasi1354
      @rumahhafidzahbekasi1354 6 років тому +13

      3 smokiest electronic youtubers
      1.diodegonewild
      2.electroboom
      3bigclive
      SPECIAL:greatscoot

    • @lowercase_
      @lowercase_ 6 років тому +4

      Did GreatScott mentioned that he didn't like BigClive's video format? I know this has nothing to do with the comment but since you mentioned clive here in scott's comment section.

    • @rumahhafidzahbekasi1354
      @rumahhafidzahbekasi1354 6 років тому

      @@lowercase_ yeah. I know but sometimes he create a lot of smoke almost in all battres that he made. And also i include him becouse it looks dramatic.

  • @Lagggerengineering
    @Lagggerengineering 6 років тому +543

    6:15 Why did you not recharge it? See how much capacity remains, see if and how it was damaged and so on!
    Do not pass this opportunity on a new technology, it might prove very long lasting unlike the others!

    • @adymode
      @adymode 6 років тому +19

      lion and lipo batteries are commonly shipped completely discharged and sometimes advised to be stored in that state to preserve lifetime. Ive seen some demos of shorting them flat (no protection) and recharged with no noticeable problem.
      edit - correction: some old manufacturers advice to store Li-ons nominally flat (0% SOC), not actually discharged. The following posts establish Ideal SOC for storage is about 40%. The general point Im supporting, including a link, is that very drained Li-on batteries may be completely recoverable, especially if not left for long in that state.

    • @Lagggerengineering
      @Lagggerengineering 6 років тому +29

      Yes, I know. We all know that happens, but I am asking about these new ceramic batteries. How do they hold up with that?

    • @adymode
      @adymode 6 років тому +2

      More people think it is a big problem - thats why GreatScott disguarded them.

    • @Lagggerengineering
      @Lagggerengineering 6 років тому +23

      @@adymode I know. I work with batteries as a hobbyist. I still have some very old fully charged cells laying around, fully charged and they have little to degrading in capacity. The problem lies in recharging.
      When you recharge or discharge a battery is the time where it is under the most stress and thus slowly degrades.
      This might be completely mitigated when we use solid electrolyte batteries. But we won't know unless somebody tests it!
      We need to know if we are to power the mobile world with battery power. Phones, cars, heaters, you name it. All are very susceptible to combustion if under extreme stress. This could be solved by a solid electrolyte battery.
      When batteries like this were announced I was extremely sceptical. I didn't believe that to be possible. Frankly the electrolyte material is different than from what I have been told, but I digress.
      You can't even imagine my excitement for the new technology. Devices will finally be able to have safe batteries, I am not talking about just the Galaxy Note 7 fiasco, but many more devices that are supposed to last a long time and be reliable.

    • @tehserenity
      @tehserenity 6 років тому +15

      wtf? li-ion normally stored with 60..70% charged.

  • @domino52o26
    @domino52o26 6 років тому +230

    This technology is several years old now but it never gets old seeing these types of cells getting cut while continuing to power Leds and not going thermonuclear.

    • @swedneck
      @swedneck 6 років тому +14

      Martin Bennett it still helps that they don't have fluids or semifluids that can explode everywhere.

    • @Evildandalo
      @Evildandalo 6 років тому +11

      This technology makes me fear for the bullet resistant lithium batteries in whatever terminators Elon Musk cooks up by 2050 lol

    • @the44thcosmic_galaxy25
      @the44thcosmic_galaxy25 6 років тому +1

      How did I not know about this? 🤤

    • @domino52o26
      @domino52o26 6 років тому +4

      @@the44thcosmic_galaxy25
      Some people watch a lot, probably too many, documentaries, which was where i learned about it a couple years ago, and it was already a several year old doc.

    • @melgibson6331
      @melgibson6331 6 років тому

      Look up salt water batterys....you can drink the fluid out of it while its running a light.

  • @funny-video-YouTube-channel
    @funny-video-YouTube-channel 6 років тому +142

    Very nice. Looks like a safe alternative to LiPo batteries.
    Let's hope they will become more powerful !

    • @quarksamurai6101
      @quarksamurai6101 5 років тому +1

      epSos.de i agree

    • @johnolson2216
      @johnolson2216 5 років тому +2

      Just make em fatter???

    • @cantkeepitin
      @cantkeepitin 5 років тому +3

      LIPO is giving you much more current, so it is no direct replacement.

    • @Antonis.Papageorgiou
      @Antonis.Papageorgiou 5 років тому +4

      I think the fact that they are safe is that they lack the power capacity of the LiPo

    • @nathanmead140
      @nathanmead140 5 років тому +1

      But without getting dangerous

  • @scuidthesquid
    @scuidthesquid 4 роки тому +68

    drinking game: take a shot everytime he says rather or crude

  • @Afrotechmods
    @Afrotechmods 6 років тому +361

    New microphone? It sounds good

    • @rumahhafidzahbekasi1354
      @rumahhafidzahbekasi1354 6 років тому +34

      "New mocrophone?" No. This is patric

    • @DMion_Coding
      @DMion_Coding 6 років тому +2

      I really love your channel! keep up with the good work!

    • @broshdrew
      @broshdrew 6 років тому +7

      So when’s your next video

    • @rumahhafidzahbekasi1354
      @rumahhafidzahbekasi1354 6 років тому +1

      The first 3 peapole who reply to this comment
      1.Me
      2.Brandon bruke
      3.DMion

    • @uK8cvPAq
      @uK8cvPAq 6 років тому +2

      Make new videos you lazy bum.

  • @Alex-sc6yy
    @Alex-sc6yy 6 років тому +1611

    It's not ceramic it's ceramic

  • @bruperina
    @bruperina 6 років тому +202

    Your accent is getting better each video. Commend you for the effort and persistence.

    • @raezad
      @raezad 6 років тому +12

      Ceramic

    • @warpspeedscp
      @warpspeedscp 6 років тому +3

      raezad badduwees.

    • @geoffgeoff143
      @geoffgeoff143 6 років тому +2

      computer generated voice.

    • @m00str
      @m00str 6 років тому +6

      @@mattikaki nope he is german

    • @l.k5244
      @l.k5244 5 років тому +1

      Keramic

  • @nikurasu_tan
    @nikurasu_tan 5 років тому +74

    Megumin is disappointed by the ceramic batteries.
    There ist no EXEPLOSION

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 5 років тому +1

      LOL

    • @joj.
      @joj. 4 роки тому +6

      Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well...

    • @YTshashmeera
      @YTshashmeera 3 роки тому

      Tell her to go watch electroboom
      Mehdi got some booms in his videos lol

  • @deadbird99
    @deadbird99 6 років тому +213

    oooooh I now desperately want these ^^ One question though: once overcharged/overdischarged/short circuited/cut/punctured, do they charge again?

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  6 років тому +96

      Well, when cut/punctured I would definitely not recharge them. WIth all the other scenarios, there is a chance that the battery could still work. But I would replace it (my opinion).

    • @deadbird99
      @deadbird99 6 років тому +85

      Can you safely do the test? At least for science?

    • @R3MIXMODZ
      @R3MIXMODZ 6 років тому +13

      Bro why does it say edited 3 days ago if this video just came out!?!?

    • @jayzo
      @jayzo 6 років тому +32

      R3MIX MODZ Patreon early access I presume.

    • @zygfrydmierzwinski6041
      @zygfrydmierzwinski6041 6 років тому +5

      He's time traveller :D

  • @Stijn081
    @Stijn081 6 років тому +142

    Really impressive. I hope they can raise the energy density on these, this would definitely make electric cars a whole lot safer. Another argument against the EV naysayers.

    • @BrokenLifeCycle
      @BrokenLifeCycle 6 років тому +18

      Thing about EV naysayers is that they argue that gasoline is safer... the same fluid that is volatile and can explode if your gas tank leaks after a crash. It also burns without external assistance like diesel would. A battery, on the other hand, can be designed to spit fire out in a controlled manner similar to hydrogen and natural gas. And once the energy is burned out (rather rapidly, I might add) it’s inert. Gas can pool around first (like underneath you) before catching on fire without warning.

    • @hfarthingt
      @hfarthingt 6 років тому

      Could we not use his same calculations as seen in the video and perform a scale multiplier?
      There would still be significant heat when punctured at the sizes you would need for EV capacitance requirements. We need more data here. Think thermal camera and mechanical trauma device that applies measurable force units.

    • @Stijn081
      @Stijn081 6 років тому +5

      It'll certainly generate some heat, but it won't be the explosive inferno you get when you puncture a LiPo battery.

    • @JesseKreis
      @JesseKreis 6 років тому +11

      @@BrokenLifeCycle Couple things here.
      Gasoline is not an explosive. It only explodes when turned into a gas "vapor" (this can only happen with compression or by heating it in a small confined space).
      If your fuel tank leaks, the gas pours out and is completely free of any compression and will simply burn rapidly. In order for a fuel tank to explode it would need to be almost empty, heated for a long time, and then you'd need to somehow get a spark inside without releasing all the compression and gasoline vapor. You could do this by jamming a sharp file into the tank and the metal scraping would cause a spark, but let's be real, the chance of this happening in a crash is extremely low because there isn't any chance that the fuel can be heated enough to cause the gas to vaporize. Especially since the car is using fuel as it drives which doesn't allow compression in the first place.
      All you get with an ignited fuel tank leak is usually a small fireball and a rapidly burning car. (This is very serious if the fuel tank leak is large enough to cause a huge pool of gas before it ignites. So don't think I'm neglecting the actual dangers).
      Currently the batteries they use in EVs are actually explosive, in the way that compressed gas is explosive.
      You should learn something about gas powered cars before dissing them.

    • @BrokenLifeCycle
      @BrokenLifeCycle 6 років тому +2

      Gasoline is a volatile liquid that can soak onto something before catching fire like lamp fuel on a candle wick. And when I said gasoline exploding, I meant when there's a concentrated mix of fuel vapours (due to its volatility) in the air catching on fire (from say, a stray spark from a broken wire) while in a mostly enclosed space (for example, the trunk of a car or the passenger space). Technically, this is unlikely to be a stoichiometric mix, so it's arguably more a deflagration than an explosion (bad wording on my part) but the fact remains. It's a fireball that can happen without warning.
      Hydrogen and natural gas are also explosive in a sense. However, those can be addressed by relief valves venting and burning in a controlled manner in the event of an accident. Plus, the gasses rise up and diffuse quickly rather than pool in something and allow the vapours to concentrated in a sufficient amount to combust. Batteries exploding can be addressed similarly with controlled venting. With newer battery technologies (like the one in the video), we might not even see this problem.
      On the topic of me not knowing enough about ICE cars... I've seen enough F1 cars pre-methanol turning into flaming wrecks to be concerned about it in my vehicle. While the risk is much lower because my vehicle won't be going over a hundred MPH and has its fuel tank in a much safer location, the risk still remains niggling in the back of my mind. After all, I don't think my truck has an automatic shutoff to the fuel line running beneath my feet in the event of a crash.

  • @jerry1378
    @jerry1378 6 років тому +115

    @5:36 i always replicate your tests at work so no worries :)

  • @matthewnoblejordan3555
    @matthewnoblejordan3555 5 років тому +5

    Excited about this ceramic battery technology. I use lipo packs in my model aircraft, cars and race drones. I'm sure if this technology is developed further we could have lighter safer battery packs for the hobby. I hope it becomes the replacement for Lipo, which are very picky as far as maintenance dangerous.

  • @rovicgabor2485
    @rovicgabor2485 6 років тому +131

    *is this what they're going to use in flexible phones*

    • @rovicgabor2485
      @rovicgabor2485 6 років тому +1

      *???????*

    • @rovicgabor2485
      @rovicgabor2485 6 років тому +1

      @@Basement-Science well,some companies like samsung has idea of flexible phones.

    • @alex-w8p2e
      @alex-w8p2e 6 років тому +12

      They would probably break easily if you bend them alot.

    • @RenKnight347
      @RenKnight347 6 років тому +2

      In drones....flexible attack drones!

    • @rovicgabor2485
      @rovicgabor2485 6 років тому +5

      @@RenKnight347 nah. Its still better in flexible cars if tesla makes it many people will buy it.

  • @trulyinfamous
    @trulyinfamous 6 років тому +40

    I hate being so young, but at the same time, all of this revolutionary technology is fuckin' awesome!

    • @HatTrex
      @HatTrex 6 років тому +5

      This battery is almost a decade old.

    • @MindBodySoulOk
      @MindBodySoulOk 6 років тому +1

      it's a watch battery

    • @DylanDaPickle
      @DylanDaPickle 6 років тому +2

      You’re never too young to learn

    • @davidlink8454
      @davidlink8454 6 років тому +2

      Truly Infamous hydrogen batteries hold a charge better and are the future. Ceramic just makes it lighter. In my opinion ceramic will be passed up by science

    • @jackrodgersjr
      @jackrodgersjr 6 років тому +2

      I remember grads complaining that their degrees in tubes was thrown in the trash can by transistors. I felt like a real genius taking all the tubes out of the tv to the drugstore and testing each until I found the bad one. Now Apple wants to swap out my entire motherboard...

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 6 років тому +40

    That's actually really interesting!!!

    • @18lucky17
      @18lucky17 6 років тому +2

      bobsagget823 unlike your shit channel

  • @dmkays
    @dmkays 5 років тому +5

    Batteries are so precious to me that it was painful to watch you destroying them. However, I am impressed with the safety of these new batteries and can think of several applications where their safety would be a huge benefit.

  • @Jack_The_Biker
    @Jack_The_Biker 5 років тому +1

    Anyone else envious of his perfect handwriting

  • @deepakjoshi6242
    @deepakjoshi6242 6 років тому +11

    Awesome brother...😍
    Keep showing us the new technology... Please...

  • @ecka333
    @ecka333 6 років тому +47

    Nothing was mentioned about battery lifetime: how many times it can be recharged until capacity drops to the certain level? Maybe ceramic lithium battery has lifetime like normal lithium battery?

    • @NiHaoMike64
      @NiHaoMike64 6 років тому +9

      A good next project would be an Arduino-based device to cycle batteries while tracking capacity every time.

    • @kirknay
      @kirknay 6 років тому +2

      This was a basic safety test of the class of battery. Hard stats would probably come later using actual model numbers and corp. names.

    • @chengpolun
      @chengpolun 6 років тому

      It can be cycled for 2000times at 2 hrs charge/2 hrs discharge rate, capacity drop (recovery) can be over 80% of original.

    • @xenonram
      @xenonram 6 років тому +1

      @@chengpolun "2 hrs charge/2 hrs discharge" What is that supposed to mean? Do you mean 2c charge/2C discharge? The 2 hrs statement means nothing. Charging a 100 mAh battery for 2 hrs (at what current?) is completely different than charging a 1500 mAh battery for 2 hrs (again, at what current?). You need something other than time to classify charge/discharge rate.

    • @Wok_Agenda
      @Wok_Agenda 5 років тому

      @@NiHaoMike64 Chinese r/c chargers do that

  • @JUANKERR2000
    @JUANKERR2000 5 років тому +2

    Nice to hear the rarely encountered correct pronunciation of 'ceramic', thank you.

  • @sudipmaity8390
    @sudipmaity8390 5 років тому +17

    lcb are so thin wont it be possible to stack 10-20 of them together and get the result of lipo.

    • @thegreatoutagesign9204
      @thegreatoutagesign9204 5 років тому +17

      That's exactly what the plcb is lol

    • @williamnixon4056
      @williamnixon4056 5 років тому +4

      I think cost effectiveness is going to be the determining factor with these types of batteries.

    • @neptunez3495
      @neptunez3495 4 роки тому +2

      you know the battery is thin if its literally thinner than the wire

  • @pieceofpotato7883
    @pieceofpotato7883 6 років тому +6

    they're here already?!!! THAT'S INSANNEEEEE

  • @jeremyanderson6395
    @jeremyanderson6395 5 років тому +6

    Seeing as the density is roughly the same, my only question is how much of a difference is the cost?

  • @jand2315
    @jand2315 5 років тому +17

    What about the number of charge cycles in comparison?

    • @technocody9296
      @technocody9296 4 роки тому +2

      That's going to take a while to get an answer lol

    • @ksam2000
      @ksam2000 4 роки тому +5

      It has been a year. Still no answer lol

  • @adamhale6672
    @adamhale6672 3 роки тому

    This is amazing. Thats around the energy density of NiCad batteries, which were the standard not too long ago! Before you know it we will be 3D printing batteries and circuits into our parts.

  • @y2jcjy2j7
    @y2jcjy2j7 6 років тому +164

    Ceramic => (Seramic) not (Keramic)
    Ahh.heulis heel, lol

    • @burningbanana6213
      @burningbanana6213 5 років тому +17

      He's German. We say it like that

    • @larrythes
      @larrythes 5 років тому +26

      Ceramic is a Greek word and derives from kéramos, which is the plaster, and kerànimi (κεράννυμι) which means mix (verb). Germans also pronounce it keramik.

    • @movax20h
      @movax20h 5 років тому +7

      @@burningbanana6213 Interesting. Indeed in german it is with K, and the Greek one is with k. Weird, because in many languages it is with C, not just English. Polish, Spanish, Italian, French, all start with C. I checked few other languages, and it is somehow half C, half K, without not that much patterns.

    • @Bagusp97
      @Bagusp97 5 років тому +4

      in Indonesia, we say "ceramic" with "keramik"

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 5 років тому +4

      No, both are correct technically so either are fine, stop being so anal about it look it up in a dictionary.

  • @xannax2050
    @xannax2050 6 років тому +12

    The future of wearable technology is back, and now better than ever with these batteries

  • @stephennganga7499
    @stephennganga7499 6 років тому +3

    oooh, i can see a whole bunch ov interesting tech coming along if this battery works out

  • @gideonkloosterman
    @gideonkloosterman 5 років тому

    You could, for example, make a watch with that flexible stuff as watch strap. It has a way higher energy capacity than normal watch batteries and is also rechargable. Now I don't expect there to be a port but a small wireless(bendable) charging strip, an (also bendable) lcd screen and these batteries would be a great combo to make a light and flexible watch.

  • @DeetexSeraphine
    @DeetexSeraphine 5 років тому +1

    That is INSANE, you literally cut INTO the battery, which was charged, DURING OPERATION... I might have to score me a few and make use of those, there's some hefty potential to be had here

  • @backdoornutzer4461
    @backdoornutzer4461 6 років тому +22

    I wonder, can this new battery technology be recycled well too?

    • @SilvaDreams
      @SilvaDreams 6 років тому

      It's over a decade old now, so not exactly new. As for being recycled.. Sort of? It's still lithium and a ceramic dust, the only problem is these batteries are rather weak compared to the common lithium batteries.

  • @KnowledgePerformance7
    @KnowledgePerformance7 6 років тому +53

    The C rating on that hobby battery of 130C is a lie. It's a problem with hobby packs. They all have overstated C ratings

    • @coccoborg
      @coccoborg 6 років тому

      yup, that's basically short-circuit current

    • @abyssunderground
      @abyssunderground 6 років тому +7

      Usually they are surge ratings where you can do it for a few seconds only. The lower value if two are listed is typically the continuous current.

    • @jakegarrett8109
      @jakegarrett8109 6 років тому +6

      Might be. Mine say 100c with burst at 200c, which for my 1.5 Ah pack, that would be close (4x motors at 35 Amp each, depending on prop it can go way higher). So I'm only at its continuous rating when putting the power down, I don't know if it could power bigger motors without excessive Vdroop (its fine right now, lets those motors scream!).
      My favorite pack for micros is 70c rated (not sure if its burst or constant), and based on how many 12 amp ESCs I seem to blow up, I'm probably around that mark, so 4x12 Amp = 48 Amp, with a 0.55 Ah battery. My display is showing it only drops 2v on a punch out (from 12.6v fresh charge down to 10.8v at full throttle punch out till I run out of video reception drag racing or hit the 400ft legal altitude limit).

    • @satibel
      @satibel 6 років тому +1

      typically, high C rated batteries are lower capacity for the price, and if you get a 1Ah at 100C, it has the same current as a 5Ah at 20C.

    • @TehMagilla
      @TehMagilla 6 років тому +5

      He calls a fast-charge C rating of 5 "a step in the right direction". None of my LiPos have a higher charge rating than that. In fact, my 60c batteries can only be charged at 2c. I'd say that 5c charge at this early stage of the technology is absolutely amazing.

  • @Martin-xh1hd
    @Martin-xh1hd 4 роки тому +1

    I own a lipo battery that is severely
    swollen and I still use it 🤗

  • @flappy7373
    @flappy7373 6 років тому +1

    i always deeply *deeply* enjoy when engineering types purposefully mispronounce words just for the fun of it..
    because engineering types are the types who give a lot of respect towards creating and following rules..
    so the humor isn't lost on me ;D

  • @Samuel-km5yf
    @Samuel-km5yf 6 років тому +7

    Great Scott - Overdischarge of Li-Ion is not dangerous at all. It’s recharging after overdischarge that is potentially dangerous.

    • @newmonengineering
      @newmonengineering 6 років тому

      Is that why there are videos of people catching on fire while trying to vape with a l-ion battery? Over discharge caused by custom coils and under rated batteries?

    • @Samuel-km5yf
      @Samuel-km5yf 6 років тому +2

      @rogwabbit -- I don't know enough about e-cigarette battery explosions to comment specifically. However, in any application a Li-Ion battery can explode (the technical term is "vent with flame") if it is overcharged, punctured at a high state of charge, exposed to excessively high temperatures, manufactured improperly (poor production control) or have developed internal shorts (dendrites) due to overdischarge and then recharged.
      Note that recharging an overdischarged Li-Ion cell is not guaranteed to fail. Supposedly they can sometimes be brought back -- maybe with noticeable capacity degradation, maybe not. Personally, I don't ever try it because it's not worth the risk.

    • @350606
      @350606 6 років тому +5

      That's overcurrent right there, not overdischarge. If you get some cheapo batteries and ask them to give you 10A just like that... They won't like it, to say the least.
      EDIT: I'm referring to the vaping with custom stuff and the batteries exploding.

    • @xenonram
      @xenonram 6 років тому +1

      @@newmonengineering You're confused.

  • @petzi8695
    @petzi8695 6 років тому +56

    make a vacuum tube amplifier

    • @sumitpandey1055
      @sumitpandey1055 6 років тому +4

      Why you need that

    • @matthewgarcia7376
      @matthewgarcia7376 6 років тому +4

      Why don't you? XD

    • @infera1
      @infera1 6 років тому +2

      amazing sound

    • @pawel4066
      @pawel4066 6 років тому +8

      Make a video about vacuum tubes.

    • @petzi8695
      @petzi8695 6 років тому +4

      @@pawel4066 yes, like who want great scott to make a video about tubes

  • @vector8320
    @vector8320 4 роки тому +2

    Nobody:
    Literally nobody:
    Greatscott: so basically indiscrtutible batteries

    • @vector8320
      @vector8320 4 роки тому

      @waffeltek bruh moment

  • @jason6049
    @jason6049 5 років тому

    Loved the subtle "soLid" note

  • @thedronehorseman4713
    @thedronehorseman4713 4 роки тому +3

    How many charge-discharge cycles can these LCB batteries take compared to Lithium Ions?

    • @hercion
      @hercion 4 роки тому

      Same question here. I hope that solid electrolyte batteries have way more cycles ?

    • @thedronehorseman4713
      @thedronehorseman4713 4 роки тому +1

      hercion I looked up the website, it’s 500 cycles before it drops to 90% capacity.

    • @hercion
      @hercion 4 роки тому

      @@thedronehorseman4713 that's rather good, isn't it?

    • @thedronehorseman4713
      @thedronehorseman4713 4 роки тому

      @@hercion If the price is good, I still don’t know the price. They didn’t reply my email.

  • @scienceteam9254
    @scienceteam9254 6 років тому +6

    wow. i thought this was gonna be thunderf00t fodder. this is amazing

    • @silenthill4
      @silenthill4 4 роки тому

      Thunderfoot is not fodder, pleb

    • @Withnail1969
      @Withnail1969 3 роки тому

      you think this is a real battery? you don't know that for sure.

  • @flatterpancake6016
    @flatterpancake6016 6 років тому

    I could listen to ur voice for years

  • @davidurdahl6656
    @davidurdahl6656 6 років тому

    Saw these in their infancy last year. It's definitely a step in the right direction.

  • @real4487
    @real4487 6 років тому +5

    3:16 R.I.P. FLCB

  • @misteragb7558
    @misteragb7558 6 років тому +30

    I assume this technology will be bought by a really big company like samsung soon.

    • @lucasc5622
      @lucasc5622 6 років тому +3

      It would be cool, but then we have to have bendy everything elses

    • @celeb18
      @celeb18 6 років тому +1

      They go in to graphane techlogogy. Samsung is not big in manufacture lithium batterys. LG Chem is biggest

    • @chengpolun
      @chengpolun 6 років тому

      @@Basement-Science it is expensive so far but not extremely expensive.lol, in fact the cell is already in roll to roll production mode and will scale up soon, at the time cost will be acceptable in EV application.

    • @xenonram
      @xenonram 6 років тому

      @@celeb18 "Samsung is not big [in the] manufacturing of lithium batteries." Are you crazy?!? That's like saying, "Pepsi isn't big in the manufacturing of cola, Coke is the biggest." One has nothing to do with the other. Samsung is a HUGE lithium battery manufacturer, just as Pepsi is a HUGE cola manufacturer. (I'm basing that all on the assumption that you know what you're talking about, and LG is a bigger manufacturer... Which doesn't matter anyways.)

  • @PlatinumEagleStudios
    @PlatinumEagleStudios 5 років тому +18

    You pronounced it wrong. It's SER-amic, not ker-amic.

    • @mau3304
      @mau3304 5 років тому

      PlatinumEagleStudio's in germany it‘s keramik that‘s why he pronounced it so

    • @larrythes
      @larrythes 5 років тому

      Ceramic is a Greek word and derives from kéramos, which is the clay, and kerànimi (κεράννυμι) which means mix (verb). Germans also pronounce it keramik.

  • @williamedwards8694
    @williamedwards8694 6 років тому

    The human brain is never content and things like this is one of those results WOW I'm amazed at the nail and cutting how do they separate back to anode and cathode. I for one will definitely be watching more of your videos there my kind of UA-cam thanks for uploading.

  • @patrickreinaldo1434
    @patrickreinaldo1434 3 роки тому

    this is not a hoax, this is not a scam, great scott is really great

  • @GilesBathgate
    @GilesBathgate 6 років тому +18

    I am sure +Great Scott pronounces things in a silly way for a joke.

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  6 років тому +14

      Haha......good idea

    • @GilesBathgate
      @GilesBathgate 6 років тому +1

      It could be your "Achilles" heel.

    • @GilesBathgate
      @GilesBathgate 6 років тому +3

      +roidroid I wouldn't quit your day job to become a comedian.

    • @Llyrana7
      @Llyrana7 6 років тому +2

      German accent… 😂

    • @userPrehistoricman
      @userPrehistoricman 6 років тому

      Nah you're thinking of Cody's Lab and his bletch.

  • @cedricproper5256
    @cedricproper5256 6 років тому +3

    I like that Flexible Battery!
    Where can I buy one?

  • @saxon215
    @saxon215 6 років тому

    Good on you this company for not asking him to do some STUPID advertisement and to let the product stand on its own merits

  • @petrichors
    @petrichors 6 років тому

    Thank you, Scott, for sharing, That's an impressive battery technology. It is the gate for the new flexible cellphones and other techs. It is also so thin and safe that it can be embedded in the fuselage of the next generation of cars, boats, and airplanes. Embedded batteries have so many advantages, it can save space and self-cooled since it is on the surface, so air is going to cool it down. so no need for liquid cooling like what for i.g. TESLA cars are doing now. Anyway. I'm so happy to see how the technology is improving so fast.

  • @armor1z
    @armor1z 6 років тому

    I saw a documentary from nova about all this new battery tech that's being developed and LCB were one of them. Thanks for the video and testing. I can't wait for this tech to get more advanced, although I don't expect that lithium will be used for too much longer before we discover something else that can surpass it.

  • @stungunnotapplicable1953
    @stungunnotapplicable1953 4 роки тому

    ProLogium: "Here's some cutting edge new battery technology."
    Scott: "LET'S CUT IT INTO PIECES WHILE IT'S DISCHARGING."

  • @madix124
    @madix124 6 років тому +8

    I can already hear everyone judging his pronunciation of 'ceramic'

    • @thereynolds2725
      @thereynolds2725 6 років тому

      Noticing something is not the same as judging it.

    • @larrythes
      @larrythes 5 років тому

      Because there is to much ignorance!

  • @Cheeky_Goose
    @Cheeky_Goose 2 роки тому

    It's taking so long to see new battery technology in phones and laptops, I'm always disappointed by the slow pace of progress. We need something like a space race for battery technology

  • @LMF5000
    @LMF5000 6 років тому

    I'm glad because maybe with this new technology we can avoid the ridiculous bans on air transport of lithium batteries.

  • @tanmay8017
    @tanmay8017 5 років тому +8

    ceramic❌
    Keramic✔️

  • @onehourmusicbc
    @onehourmusicbc 5 років тому +4

    Yay, my country invented another battery :D

  • @natsukazetojo
    @natsukazetojo 6 років тому

    This type of battery seems promising. I'd love to support the development and would love to get one. :)

  • @jwrm22
    @jwrm22 6 років тому +1

    The safety aspect is underrated. The value of a phone not exploding is worth more than half a day of capacity.

  • @H.EL-Othemany
    @H.EL-Othemany 6 років тому +6

    "keramic" lol

  • @dfpguitar
    @dfpguitar 5 років тому +8

    pronunciation of the C in Achilles and ceramic is backwards.
    Ceramic is pronounced seramik. Achilles is pronounced akillees.

    • @larrythes
      @larrythes 5 років тому

      Totally wrong! It is pronounced keramik. As for Achilles it's not even the real name. It should be Αχιλλεύς which is pronounced Ahilléfs.

    • @dfpguitar
      @dfpguitar 5 років тому

      Well Im guessing you are Greek so you are probably right about the original pronunciation of Achillies, but in English it has becom Akilees. English is a strange language combining a foundation of German a heavy dressing of Latin, a sprinkle of French, and pinches of eastern spice from places like India. One example of the latter being the word Jungle, which most people in the Greater India area would pronounce more like Zongul.
      But Ceramic is very uniformly pronounced Seramik in every form of English, be it in England, USA or India. @@larrythes

    • @larrythes
      @larrythes 5 років тому +2

      @@dfpguitar I know, English language is a bit of a mess. And Greek language is difficult. I'll be sounding like Portokalos from "my big fat Greek wedding" but ceramic is a Greek word and derives from kéramos, which is the clay and kerànimi (κεράννυμι) which means mix (verb). Germans also pronounce it keramik.

  • @guestchannel3080
    @guestchannel3080 5 років тому +7

    All my life, I was taught to pronounce it as 'Seramik'...
    Now you're changing it to 'Keramik' !
    Why do y'all make fun of my English Skills when you guys haven't actually decided anything yet...😐

    • @voyager9957
      @voyager9957 5 років тому +3

      Ehh, I think he spells it "keramik", because he is german. In german you say "Keramik", just like you read it.

    • @askhowiknow5527
      @askhowiknow5527 5 років тому

      Guest Channel Whoever taught you “keramic” was wrong - if they were teaching you the English pronunciation

    • @askhowiknow5527
      @askhowiknow5527 5 років тому

      Holzi Whereas English has... no spelling rules at all, dammit

    • @larrythes
      @larrythes 5 років тому

      The word "ceramic" comes from the Greek word κεραμικός (keramikos), "of pottery" or "for pottery", from κέραμος (keramos), "potter's clay, tile, pottery".

  • @princesscool69
    @princesscool69 6 років тому

    when you say ceramic change the first c sound to and s and youll be fine. also really cool that solid state batterys are almost here

  • @bashrc-kq8nu
    @bashrc-kq8nu 6 років тому

    His left-handed handwriting is awesome 😮

  • @cantkeepitin
    @cantkeepitin 5 років тому

    Great video, much better than dozens of other videos on this topic. The problem with new ceramic batteries it that if you improve them on current output, you would automatically also make the safety worse. Batteries have to fullfill quite many criteria, so there is no single best for all battery, even not in 100 years.

  • @machiii7394
    @machiii7394 6 років тому

    also, idea, if they can increase the storage of the FLCB, the new flexible LCD technology can be used to make even more flexible phones, along with other flexible materials for PCBs

  • @nefariouspurplebadger
    @nefariouspurplebadger 6 років тому +89

    Jeez. The vast majority of English speakers don’t speak any other language. But they get their knickers in a twist over the slightest of mispronunciations. And then pretend they are trying to do someone a favour, when really they are just being picky and condescending. Come back when your German is as good as his English, or sit down shut up and enjoy the video.

    • @paulosullivan3472
      @paulosullivan3472 6 років тому +30

      I speak several dozen languages and I can say I am always grateful for somebody to tell me when I am saying something incorrectly. You can't learn if nobody corrects you.

    • @quarksamurai6101
      @quarksamurai6101 5 років тому +7

      Nefarious Purple Badger triggered over . nothing

    • @Wok_Agenda
      @Wok_Agenda 5 років тому +4

      Germans do the same , I've worked for a big German components supplier and when they visited the branch of my country none of them speaked English and that is stupid , how do a company hire you as a manager / salesman of foreign branches when you only speak one language? That is cocky the audiot kind

    • @sopothetocho
      @sopothetocho 5 років тому

      People were just trying to help, you moron. Also dont get me started on germans, the most arrogant people on the planet.

    • @Felisargyle
      @Felisargyle 5 років тому

      Nefarious Purple Badger I think people are just trying to help I don’t think he will get offended.

  • @paulybeatz3688
    @paulybeatz3688 6 років тому +3

    *Do you have an Australian accent?*

  • @soundguydon
    @soundguydon 5 років тому +1

    As always, your videos are informative and interesting - keep up the good work :-)

  • @josephcobb6228
    @josephcobb6228 6 років тому

    wow. incredible batteries. can't wait see how these develope in the future

  • @motoprime2731
    @motoprime2731 5 років тому +4

    ce·ram·ic
    \sə-ˈra-mik, especially Britishkə-\
    🙈🙈🙈

  • @sturmim
    @sturmim 6 років тому +5

    "The Battewy" ... "The Battewy" ... "Manifactuw" ... "Ovewchoch" ... "Wechoch" ... ... 😂😂😂

  • @Admiral_Jezza
    @Admiral_Jezza 6 років тому +3

    "Kuramic"

  • @pilotavery
    @pilotavery 4 роки тому

    Hearing you mispronounce "Ceramic" made me realize that you are a fucking legend for making an entire UA-cam series in a language that isn't your first.
    Good for you bro! :D

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 4 роки тому

      You're a boss. You made an awesome series in a language more people use, despite it being a foreign language to you. You're a boss, your English is great, and your accent improves all the time.

  • @joelstolarski2244
    @joelstolarski2244 6 років тому

    That's a very nice review of new lithium battery. Fascinating.

  • @SirChickon
    @SirChickon 6 років тому +4

    aktschually its seramic not KERAMIK!!

  • @DKLVE
    @DKLVE 5 років тому +2

    Nice work man !!

  • @zendell37
    @zendell37 6 років тому

    That style of flexible battery would be extremely easy to stack up and run in parallels. If each cell was .43 of a mm thick, then a 2000mah "battery" could be made at only 10mm. Sounds pretty reasonable to me, considering the footprint of it.

  • @NoName-fn6ee
    @NoName-fn6ee 5 років тому +1

    Tesla and Samsung are definitely in Love with that LCB Batteries! Maybe the Note 7 would have survived :(?

  • @fhuber7507
    @fhuber7507 6 років тому

    Early LiPos were 2C to 4C rated. This slowly increased as the products were developed
    Also early LiPos were heavier + bulkier for the same capacity (even with the far lower C ratings) I still have a useable (at 1 C) 3S LiPo rated (by label) 8C 1800 mah. It is double the weight and volume of a new Pack labeled 3S 2200 mah 30C which I bought recently.
    these new ceramic batteries are looking very promising.

  • @philippeagbozo5259
    @philippeagbozo5259 5 років тому +2

    I start imagining new phones with this kind of battery lol

  • @chaschuky999
    @chaschuky999 6 років тому

    Incredible video these will certainly be extremely important in the future

  • @AtomkeySinclair
    @AtomkeySinclair 6 років тому

    I bet you could find a solar cell about the same formfactor as the lcb. With some epoxy resin and experimentation you could make a really neat emergency light. SHTF and camping etc. Add a joul theif and you're set brother. Credit cad size kinda thingy.

  • @thecrossyroader8993
    @thecrossyroader8993 5 років тому

    I have no doubt that the invention of these batteries will lead to many great things!

  • @LoveOfMules13
    @LoveOfMules13 6 років тому

    The safety advantage is obvious, and could possibly help these avoid shipping restrictions that are in place for current lithium batteries. Supposedly LCBs also have greater cycle life / longevity, or at least are thought to be capable of it (they are also thought to be capable of higher energy densities than traditional lithium batteries - we'll see). I'd love to see these tested over many (2000+) full discharge cycles, but it would be quite time consuming without automation. I would assume a solid state technology would be likely to last longer than liquid electrolyte, but a lot of the challenges in battery lifespan come down to deterioration of the cathode/anode, and that may not be much different for these yet.

  • @rohitsinghchauhan4818
    @rohitsinghchauhan4818 4 роки тому

    Never seen something like this one before. Looks Amazing at a glance.

  • @krishsatpati2476
    @krishsatpati2476 4 роки тому

    We have AMOLED displays that are flexible, and FLCBs can be stackable, there is development for flexible motherboards, and a flexible smartphone can be on its way

    • @putraadriansyah8082
      @putraadriansyah8082 4 роки тому +1

      But we dont have flexibe chipsets and memory and data storage

  • @Cameron_Mind
    @Cameron_Mind 6 років тому

    His handwriting is majestic

  • @frozenprakash
    @frozenprakash 6 років тому

    Reason I subscribed to your channel is use of watt hour (proper energy unit)

  • @233lynx
    @233lynx 6 років тому

    One of significant apparent advantages of the ceramic lithium batteries you haven't tested: they have wider temperature range.

  • @Tmask32
    @Tmask32 6 років тому

    One other thing you pointed out on the nanotech
    LiPo battery. Was the discharge rate, not the charge rate. Two different things . So the solid state battery charge rating it's pretty similar to a lipo.

  • @houghwhite411
    @houghwhite411 6 років тому

    They were still in their infancy. We were talking about 5 more years. I am eager to wait

  • @AnubhabKundu
    @AnubhabKundu 5 років тому

    Thank you for teaching me how to make a li ion battery pack in a previous video.