It worked for me with this solution: press the reset button at the same time with the power button for 25 seconds 😅 (PC off, but power supply on). , and finally I was able to boot to BIOS backup restore mode. Before I had the intermittent bootloop problem and BIOS backup did not appear , it did not work. Motherboard Gigabyte Z77 D3H For people who have bad reset or power button your solution should work. Thank you very much anyway.
Thank you very much! Today I had the same problem on my Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H motherboard, and with the processes in your video, I managed to get it working again. You saved my life! Thanks!
thank you very much, this problem was not solved in my language, you showed everything very clearly and everything started. I wish you success and all the best!
SUCCESS! (MB: GA-Z68AP-D3-Rev.2)The main bios is the only bios that can be rewritten, the backup cannot be changed or modified without extensive knowledge. What I had to do was short the main bios chip multiple times on multiple reboots, atleast 3. I never recieved that "bios has been reset." Do your own research but I had a different motherboard so that why I had a different experience. I think the last time I reset, I switched the single ram that I was using to test; that might have fixed it. Also, to clear power for the whole computer, unplug monitor and pc, then remove the cmos and put the (cmos pins jumper) into the front panel "Power switch" port (the 2 pin port.) Leave for about 2 minutes. Note: all my ram slots are working fine, even though switching a slot fixed the issue. IMPORTANT!!!: I also I saw another video where they had lights GREEN(CPU) GREEN(RAM) YELLOW(VGA) RED(BOOT), same as me. Their solution was actually a dead CR2023 battery. They don't recharge while in your computer and have a life span of around 5-7 years. I applied both this video and the cr2023 swap video. It worked! It took 3 days of researching and failing when following other videos and these solutions took less than 10 minutes. Kamusta from Michigan, you are a motherboard saver. I'll be visiting our beautiful Philippines this summer, hopefully.
I'm rarely leaving a commmets, but this one I can't leave behind. Thank you very much! I've already being depressed about broken board, but your video help me very much!!! ❤
Thank you so much. Ive had this pc sitting in my closet forever cause I couldn't fix it. Rebuilt the whole thing and did this and it booted right up into bios after
Hiya, I got it to boot properly again just as you demonstrated, thanx. ~ Gigabyte GA-F2A68HM-HD2 (Nobilis OEM) & PS2 connected keyboard ~ Held the tweezers down for a long time then finally just let go. System then rebooted and indicated corrupted bios. Pressed Enter and recovered OEM bios. ~ Boot cycle problem caused by trying to install PCIe nvme adapter.
You are a life saver. I was about to throw away motherboard. It worked just like you showed. God bless you. Thank you so much. I have a Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H. It stopped working after I enabled TPM and Secure boot option in the BIOS.
Thanks man you saved the day ! GIGABYTE GAMING AM3 socket for fx8370 on mine it is is the last one bellow. That is an arrow sign close to the right one.
Salamat kaayo bay. Gi try na nako mga tutorial sa english, indian, espanyol, tagalog. Cmos or psu daw ang problema. Pero mkapamalikas man sad ta, bisaya ra man diay makatabang nako. Haha. Salamat kaayo ani bay, abi jud nako guba ang mobo kay 2nd hand ra nako gipalit sa shopee. Padayon sa pag uswag brader!
Maayung buntag Sir, salamat pud kaayu. Usually ang cause ani Sir, is abnormal ang power source, ex intermittent ang AC line, low voltage ug uban pa. Much better Sir if naa kya voltage regulator para sa imong CPU or pwede sad time delay plug para dili kalit mo sulod ang kuryente sa imong pc ug uban electronic deivice gikan sa kalit na brown out. Amping Boss.
Thanks bro. Even you speak in different language, with some translation you did, i managed to revive my almost dead gigabytes motherboard. Thanks a lot.
It worked for me with this solution: press the reset button at the same time with the power button for 25 seconds 😅 , and finally I was able to boot to BIOS backup restore mode. Before I had the intermittent bootloop problem and BIOS backup did not appear , it did not work. Motherboard Gigabyte Z77 D3H For people who have bad reset or power button your solution should work. Thank you very much anyway.
Thanks to Google Translate, yes I was able to understand my amigo, which is also a (amigo)friend in our native language (Bisaya). I'm glad this was helpful my amigo. Much appreciated.
I couldn't understand what you were saying at key moments. Do you hit the power button while you are shorting the pins or? Maybe a write up on what you did in the description would be extremely helpful when english isn't your first language...Thanks
GA-Z68XP-UD3 (rev. 1.0) motherboard. As it was written here in comments already it was enough just to simultaneously press reset and power for about 10 sec for bios recovery prompt to appear on screen. Try this first before shortening anything live on the motherboard
Amazing Bro, I did it , press the reset button at the same time with the power button for 25 seconds 😅 , and finally I could boot to BIOS backup restore mode. Previously I had the intermittent bootloop problem and the BIOS backup was not showing , it did not work. Thanks , my mobo is Gigabyte z77 d3h , year 2012.
I hope this actions was made after extracting RTC battery and shorten contacts of it? Very strange, Dual BIOS made to do this procedure automatically. May be it is a EC firmware problem? Or current BIOS firmware version problem?
Friend, I took a GA-970A-D3P from my brother-in-law to repair and it has 2 bios. After buying a new SSD and reinstalling Win10, I noticed a strange anomaly! When I'm on Win10 and press reset, the machine boots for a moment and the main Bios screen appears and immediately the machine resets itself and is left with no video and no system! It only comes back if I turn it off and on again! Is there a possibility that the bios have different versions to generate this conflict?
My motherboard is a Gigabyte h310 M M.2 and it only has the M-Bios does not have the B-Bios does this method still work? My PC stopped giving video after I enabled a wrong function in secury boot, does this method work with these cards only with M-bios?
Hola en mi caso quite la pila y también use el clr cmos,hise puente unos minutos, y luego aprete el boton fe reinicio y encendido ala vez e inicio la opcion de respaldo de la bios sin usar la pila en la placa , En mi caso el problema fue por actualizar la. Bios de mi placa z77 d3h ver.1.1 la bios mas estable es la F18 pues uso un procesador Xeon 1275v2 y memorias 1866 total 32 gigas ,les informo pues ya use todas las bios que salieron despues . Y me causaron problemas
Yes Sir, you can start the process again by turning off the cpu for about 10-15 seconds before turning it on again. The recovery should take around 5-8 minutes based on my experience. I suggest using sewing pins crossed together so that it would not slip. Thanks.
hi, i have same problem. I sorted pins 1 & 6 and it went to recovery and to 100% . when pc reboot i get same screen ''bios has been reset - please decide how to continue'' but i can't do as my keyboard and mouse don't want to work but it works on other pc. Tried ps/2 keyboard but still not working. Any ideas on how to fix this and make mouse and kboard work? your help will be much appropriated
@@RollyPetz thank you for your response. Tried several times/days. Still no keyboard and mouse support. Bought a new ps2 mouse and keyboard, still nothing🤕☹️
Once the main bios has been recovered from the backup, should I update the bios? Does updating the bios reduce the chance of another corruption? Thank you
Hi I too have a gigabyte motherboard H97-D3H. I was running a usb based bootloader and yesterday I inserted another bootable USB to repair windows. What happened next is the system powered off and it is not powering on, tried clearing CMOS by removing the battery, shorting the battery's + and -, shorting the jumper pins. Tried cleaning the ram and inserting in other slots, tried new psu, Still no luck. The motherboard speaker is making a clicking sound continuously at a 3 second interval. And the display is not powering on as well. What could have gone wrong? Please help. 🙏
Try to insert the memory one at a time check if the beeping sound is gone, then insert the next one... just keep in mind the order of the memory slots...probably a memory error...tnx.
@@RollyPetz thanks for the reply, it was fixed it was a memory error, had to move it to a new slot, then the system booted to BIOS. New problem is that it just boots only once and after shutting down and powering on, the system won't boot again and again I have to keep changing the slots to boot properly. What could be wrong here? Thanks
It worked for me with this solution: press the reset button at the same time with the power button for 25 seconds 😅 (PC off, but power supply on). , and finally I was able to boot to BIOS backup restore mode. Before I had the intermittent bootloop problem and BIOS backup did not appear , it did not work.
Motherboard Gigabyte Z77 D3H
For people who have bad reset or power button your solution should work. Thank you very much anyway.
thank you brother you helped me
Thx bro! Nice trick too use button P+R :D
Wow i use you trick mainboard bios recovered main bios from backup bios. Its amazibg
Thanks
Welcome Sir.
Welcome Sir.
Pressing the power button and reset button for 10secs helped solve my corrupted bios. Thank you.
Thanks, I didn't understand all you've said, but your instructions are so clear that my pc has come to live again!!!
Great to hear! I'm glad this helped you. Stay safe.
Thank you very much! Today I had the same problem on my Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H motherboard, and with the processes in your video, I managed to get it working again. You saved my life! Thanks!
Glad this was helpful Sir. Stay safe.
Thank you SIR!!! I'd tried the PSU\power button combo thing but just got nowhere, you're instructions were spot on! THANK YOU!
@@bradwilson6102 hi Sir I'm glad this was helpful. Stay safe.
thank you very much, this problem was not solved in my language, you showed everything very clearly and everything started.
I wish you success and all the best!
Glad it helped, stay safe.
It worked for me with pressing start button and reset at the same time, for 10 senconds (front aio). Still, thanks a lot !
You're welcome Sir...stay safe.
YOU SAVED MY LIFE!!! Thank you SOOOOO much thank you thank you
@harkyz4439 bro thank you.... after almost a week of trying to fix mine your advice helped me... cheers mate!!
Thanks! It worked for me ❤
Wowww thank you so much for sharing, I learned something new today 😅 I was thinking the worst
SUCCESS! (MB: GA-Z68AP-D3-Rev.2)The main bios is the only bios that can be rewritten, the backup cannot be changed or modified without extensive knowledge.
What I had to do was short the main bios chip multiple times on multiple reboots, atleast 3. I never recieved that "bios has been reset." Do your own research but I had a different motherboard so that why I had a different experience.
I think the last time I reset, I switched the single ram that I was using to test; that might have fixed it. Also, to clear power for the whole computer, unplug monitor and pc, then remove the cmos and put the (cmos pins jumper) into the front panel "Power switch" port (the 2 pin port.) Leave for about 2 minutes.
Note: all my ram slots are working fine, even though switching a slot fixed the issue.
IMPORTANT!!!: I also I saw another video where they had lights GREEN(CPU) GREEN(RAM) YELLOW(VGA) RED(BOOT), same as me. Their solution was actually a dead CR2023 battery. They don't recharge while in your computer and have a life span of around 5-7 years.
I applied both this video and the cr2023 swap video. It worked! It took 3 days of researching and failing when following other videos and these solutions took less than 10 minutes.
Kamusta from Michigan, you are a motherboard saver. I'll be visiting our beautiful Philippines this summer, hopefully.
Thanks a lot for your comment Sir.
I'm rarely leaving a commmets, but this one I can't leave behind. Thank you very much! I've already being depressed about broken board, but your video help me very much!!! ❤
I'm glad this helped. Stay safe and you're welcom.
Thank you so much. Ive had this pc sitting in my closet forever cause I couldn't fix it. Rebuilt the whole thing and did this and it booted right up into bios after
Glad this was helpful Sir. Stay safe..
The technique of pressing the power and reset buttons works on my GA HM61 DS2 motherboard. Thank you very much, success always🎉🎉🎉
Welcome Sir.
Hiya, I got it to boot properly again just as you demonstrated, thanx.
~ Gigabyte GA-F2A68HM-HD2 (Nobilis OEM) & PS2 connected keyboard
~ Held the tweezers down for a long time then finally just let go. System then rebooted and indicated corrupted bios. Pressed Enter and recovered OEM bios.
~ Boot cycle problem caused by trying to install PCIe nvme adapter.
Welcome Sir.
thank you boss,, success ako gi buhat karun jud... display na...
Welcome Boss.
You are a life saver. I was about to throw away motherboard. It worked just like you showed. God bless you. Thank you so much. I have a Gigabyte GA-B150M-D3H. It stopped working after I enabled TPM and Secure boot option in the BIOS.
Thanks a lot Sir Brian. I'm glad that this one worked for you as well. Stay safe as always Sir.😀😀😀
Saved my life 👏
Gigabyte B75M-D3H rev 1.2
Same
Weelcome Sir. Thanks.
Thanks man you saved the day ! GIGABYTE GAMING AM3 socket for fx8370 on mine it is is the last one bellow. That is an arrow sign close to the right one.
No problem 👍 and I'm glad this was helpful.
thank you for sharing ang showing how to reset bios
Welcome Sir..
keep showing real people how to fix their real problems. thank you!
You're welcome Sir, thanks a lot for your comment. Stay safe.
You are a genius my friend 👏🏽👏🏽... that works 💪🏽
Power and reset button while jumping the chip..
Thanks.
Glad it helped
Salamat kaayo bay. Gi try na nako mga tutorial sa english, indian, espanyol, tagalog. Cmos or psu daw ang problema. Pero mkapamalikas man sad ta, bisaya ra man diay makatabang nako. Haha. Salamat kaayo ani bay, abi jud nako guba ang mobo kay 2nd hand ra nako gipalit sa shopee. Padayon sa pag uswag brader!
Maayung buntag Sir, salamat pud kaayu. Usually ang cause ani Sir, is abnormal ang power source, ex intermittent ang AC line, low voltage ug uban pa. Much better Sir if naa kya voltage regulator para sa imong CPU or pwede sad time delay plug para dili kalit mo sulod ang kuryente sa imong pc ug uban electronic deivice gikan sa kalit na brown out. Amping Boss.
Worked for me too. I tried everything and was about to ditch the motherboard and purchase a new one. You saved me some $$$ :)
I'm glad this was helpful Sir..
GA-Z77-D3H. It did the job. Thank you so much, Sir!
You're welcome Sir...Happy Holidays.
Nice 1 DIY Petz. Na save ang mobo.
Magamit pa intawn for another purpose Sir Val...next project...
the best detailed video, they work, ty!!!!!!
Glad it helped!
Broooo I dont know how to thank u u r a legend !!!!
You're welcome, glad this helped.
Worked 💯, didn't even take long. 🎉
Thank you so much.
Glad it worked.
Thank you so much, it was very helpful!!!! My PC is back to life!
You're welcome and gload to hear it was working already.
MAAAN YOU made my motherboard alive!
Glad this helps Sir.
Dol lamat kaau dol abi nkog guba akong i7 7700
OK Sir, amping pirmi.
Thanks bro. Even you speak in different language, with some translation you did, i managed to revive my almost dead gigabytes motherboard. Thanks a lot.
Glad this was helpful. Thanks.
works with GA-z77-d3h as well coool thanks
It worked for me with this solution: press the reset button at the same time with the power button for 25 seconds 😅 , and finally I was able to boot to BIOS backup restore mode. Before I had the intermittent bootloop problem and BIOS backup did not appear , it did not work.
Motherboard Gigabyte Z77 D3H
For people who have bad reset or power button your solution should work. Thank you very much anyway.
Welcome Sir.
U saved my day thank you so much, it works perfectly in my z270 k3
Glad I could help
I tried everything and noting worked, you saved me thank you
Glad to hear it Sir.
Muchísimas gracias amigo, totalmente válido 2023, Saludos desde Perú.
Thank you very much Sir. Much appreciated.
Thanks a lot , it worked for me H610m-ds2 ! Stay safe !🎉
You're welcome!
GA-H87-D3H work.
Thanks
You're welcome!
Hi. Which bios IC is that one, I have a board with both Winbond 25Q80BVSIG. Is it the same pinout than in yours? Thank you.
OK Sir...thanks.
Very informative video, would suggest you get a good mic for better audio. 😅
From your younger brother ❤
Salamat Brod.
He amigo, muchas gracias.
Tal vez no lo entiendas, pero me acabas de salvar.
Muchas gracias.
Thanks to Google Translate, yes I was able to understand my amigo, which is also a (amigo)friend in our native language (Bisaya). I'm glad this was helpful my amigo. Much appreciated.
I couldn't understand what you were saying at key moments. Do you hit the power button while you are shorting the pins or? Maybe a write up on what you did in the description would be extremely helpful when english isn't your first language...Thanks
Thank you so much for your lovely ideas
Glad you like them!
GA-Z68XP-UD3 (rev. 1.0) motherboard. As it was written here in comments already it was enough just to simultaneously press reset and power for about 10 sec for bios recovery prompt to appear on screen. Try this first before shortening anything live on the motherboard
Amazing Bro, I did it , press the reset button at the same time with the power button for 25 seconds 😅 , and finally I could boot to BIOS backup restore mode. Previously I had the intermittent bootloop problem and the BIOS backup was not showing , it did not work.
Thanks , my mobo is Gigabyte z77 d3h , year 2012.
Glad this helps.
Welcome Sir.
Thanks brooo. Working fine for my h81m gigabyte .
You're welcome Sir.
Obrigado cara, funcionou perfeitamente na minha Z97X SLI GIGABYTE, você é demais
Minha ga h61m ds2 não está surtindo efeito :(
Thanks for your feedback Sir. Much appreciated.
Worked for me. Thank you so much
You're welcome!
Thank you. from korea
You're welcome Sir. Stay safe.
You're a lifesaver sir! Great job! Fixed my problem as well.
Nice one Sir, glad this was helpful...stay safe.
Holding power + reset button for 10 seconds seems to have triggered the bios recovery, try that before shorting pins.
Good to know Sir. Thanks for the feedback.
SI FUNCIONA ESTA OPCION, PARA MI CASO. LA ANTERIOR NO LO PUEDE APLICAR.
thanks, it worked. How ever now it got in a loop over "press enter to update the main bios" :(. Maybe the backup bios is damaged as well
That could be the problem as well.
It's works!!!!! Thank you very very much sir.
You're welcome Sir.
Brother you save my life love you so much bro ❤
Welcome Sir. Stay safe.
Saludos desde Ecuador me ayudaste muchisimos no se como recomendacion y ayudar mas a la comunidad sy puedes poner el video con dialo subtitulado😅
Thanks for the comment and suggestions Sir.
Eres un tigre man no te entiendo tu idioma pero con solo verte resolví
Glad this was helpful Sir.
Thx man my old pc just works perfekt
Hi sir, I'm glad this is helpful.
BIG OHIO BOSS, saved my PC. Respect+
I'm glad this was helpful Sir. Thanks.
I hope this actions was made after extracting RTC battery and shorten contacts of it? Very strange, Dual BIOS made to do this procedure automatically. May be it is a EC firmware problem? Or current BIOS firmware version problem?
Yes, this method was performed, no idea if its firmware problem or what. Tnx.
Alhamdulillah its on now ❤
Thanks to Allah. And you brother for this helping content
You're welcome and much appreciated. Stay safe.
Bro you saved me. Not all heros wear capes
Thanks for the comment Sir...stay safe.
Yes, it works!! Thank you so much bro!!👏🙏
You're welcome!
Friend, I took a GA-970A-D3P from my brother-in-law to repair and it has 2 bios. After buying a new SSD and reinstalling Win10, I noticed a strange anomaly! When I'm on Win10 and press reset, the machine boots for a moment and the main Bios screen appears and immediately the machine resets itself and is left with no video and no system! It only comes back if I turn it off and on again! Is there a possibility that the bios have different versions to generate this conflict?
Grazie amico! Risolto!
Welcome Sir.
It's works!!!!! Thank you very very much. 😀
You're welcome Sir. Stay safe.
so far this has been the ONLY helpful video..
Glad this was helpful. tnx sir.
Are shorting the pins while the motherboard running
Yes Sir..just follow the cycle.
Thank you so much , it's worked
Welcome Sir.
Thank you Sir It's working
Welcome and glad this helps.
Thank you very much. You are a livesaver.
You're welcome!
Thanks fam it worked for me! Saved me!
Glad this was helpful Sir. Happy Holidays..
Thank's a lot! Nice day!
Have a nice day
thanks for the tips. works fine
Welcome Sir.
Programming the bios chips with CH341A programmer will work?
No idea Sir, I haven't tested that one out. Supposedly yes it will work.
My motherboard is a Gigabyte h310 M M.2 and it only has the M-Bios does not have the B-Bios does this method still work? My PC stopped giving video after I enabled a wrong function in secury boot, does this method work with these cards only with M-bios?
Unfortunately I could not find the right solution for your board Sir.
100% real no fake...muchas gracias...
Good day Sir David, you're welcome Sir.
Hola en mi caso quite la pila y también use el clr cmos,hise puente unos minutos, y luego aprete el boton fe reinicio y encendido ala vez e inicio la opcion de respaldo de la bios sin usar la pila en la placa , En mi caso el problema fue por actualizar la. Bios de mi placa z77 d3h ver.1.1 la bios mas estable es la F18 pues uso un procesador Xeon 1275v2 y memorias 1866 total 32 gigas ,les informo pues ya use todas las bios que salieron despues . Y me causaron problemas
Thank you for the vid!
Welcome Sir., stay safe.
Thank you, helped me out.
You're welcome Sir, glad this was helpful.
Bro it worked, Thank you so much.
You're welcome! Stay safe.
If I slipped off the chip contacts after boot, can I start the process again? Also, how long should recovery take?
Yes Sir, you can start the process again by turning off the cpu for about 10-15 seconds before turning it on again. The recovery should take around 5-8 minutes based on my experience. I suggest using sewing pins crossed together so that it would not slip. Thanks.
@@RollyPetz 5-8 minutes, ok! I will try to make something that can sit by itself on the pins 🙂
@@anfo_4241 Sir, patience is a virtue. Good luck Sir.
Hi, when ends the fix of the bios it turns off again and nothing's happens, what can i do?
Brother thank you ver much ❤
Welcome Sir.
Actually this worked for me! Thank you so much ❤️
Thank you and I'm glad this was helpful. Stay safe..
Thanks for sharing 😊🎉❤
You are so welcome
thank you very much sir very much
Ur welcome and stay safe.
Is this possible with gigabyte h610m h v2 ddr4?
Thank you my friend, you helped me
You're welcome Sir. Stay safe.
What code was coming on the gigabyte debugger during boot loop, isnt this same like flashing the main bios again ?
Sir sorry, I dont have a debugger for this. Thanks.
You are the best!!!! Thanks bro
Welcome Sir. Stay safe..
Life saver
Thanks sir, glad this helps.
Top Tip! Thanks!
Happy to help!
Genio me sirvio para reparar la GA-p75-d3 empezo a fallar depues de instalar el win11. Muchas Gracias.
Yes Sir, please see link below.
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Thanks.
it worked and thank you
You're welcome!
Thanks a lot bro ...❤it's working fine
Glad to hear it Sir.
is it used to recover mother single? not dual?
Good day Sir, this method is for dual bios recovery of the main bios Sir.
hi, i have same problem. I sorted pins 1 & 6 and it went to recovery and to 100% . when pc reboot i get same screen ''bios has been reset - please decide how to continue'' but i can't do as my keyboard and mouse don't want to work but it works on other pc. Tried ps/2 keyboard but still not working. Any ideas on how to fix this and make mouse and kboard work? your help will be much appropriated
Try to remove your CMOS PIN and battery and then reboot.
@@RollyPetz thank you for your response. Tried several times/days. Still no keyboard and mouse support. Bought a new ps2 mouse and keyboard, still nothing🤕☹️
Thankyou lifesaver
Glad, this helps.
Once the main bios has been recovered from the backup, should I update the bios?
Does updating the bios reduce the chance of another corruption?
Thank you
Yes Sir, as much as possible update your system as needed as upgrades fix some bugs of the system Sir. Tnx.
Great work
Thank you so much 😀
Sir kanang dogay kaayo siya mo display? Ga on siya ug nag toyok pud iyang fan.. Piro dili jud mo display.. Usahay ra mo display..?
On-board and video card Sir or naa external?
My motherboard is "gigabyte GA-h81m s1" is it work on it?
If it's double bios config, then probably it will work.
Hi I too have a gigabyte motherboard H97-D3H. I was running a usb based bootloader and yesterday I inserted another bootable USB to repair windows. What happened next is the system powered off and it is not powering on, tried clearing CMOS by removing the battery, shorting the battery's + and -, shorting the jumper pins. Tried cleaning the ram and inserting in other slots, tried new psu, Still no luck. The motherboard speaker is making a clicking sound continuously at a 3 second interval. And the display is not powering on as well. What could have gone wrong? Please help. 🙏
Try to insert the memory one at a time check if the beeping sound is gone, then insert the next one... just keep in mind the order of the memory slots...probably a memory error...tnx.
@@RollyPetz thanks for the reply, it was fixed it was a memory error, had to move it to a new slot, then the system booted to BIOS. New problem is that it just boots only once and after shutting down and powering on, the system won't boot again and again I have to keep changing the slots to boot properly. What could be wrong here? Thanks