Warpriest is unironically one of the tankiest (as in hard to kill, not actual tanking due to tank fallacy) classes now. Not only does one get heavy armor, but with raise symbol you can stack all 3 universal saving throw bonuses (item, status, circumstance) and they crit succeed on Will and Constitution, which are the most important saves. Finally, if there's a terrifying dex save out there, you can Tempt Fate eventually, and you'll be more likely to succeed than fail. Add in the hardness boosts and even meme it up with emblazon anti magic and WP is just not going down. And they still do be a full caster too.
Dont forget Canny Acumen (Master in Reflex at 17th lvl, so you can take it at 19th) and Channeling Block (new feat for 14th lvl I think). I was running a solo campaign for a Warpriest, so hes going to be getting the new feats as we move over to using the remaster.
Thanks for all of this really helpful Remaster content, it's so nice to not have to rely on watching Roll for Combat's obnoxious streams for information and analysis.
Thankfully, my DM let me change my Anadi Cloistered Cleric of Gozreh to a Warpriest of Gozreh after the remaster dropped. It was a HUGE boon to my character. Remaster Cleric is quickly becoming my new favorite class!
Sacred ground with the harmfull or versitile phont, sounds like a good way to heal undead allys, without harming your living allys. ... I'm actaually in a situation in the game I'm in, where I may have to heal friendly ghosts who tie into a party-member's backstory, and are bound aginst their will to an item we posess. We don't know how to free them; (yet.)
Zealous rush I think let’s you cast Weapon Surge or True Strike and still move 10 feet which is really nice if you need that little bit of movement. Makes getting off a True Strike + Channel Smite combo easier even if you weren’t already adjacent at the start of your turn.
They could have the best of both worlds with the Divine Font by making Warpriest scale differently than Cloistered Cleric. Maybe Warpriests take the higher of 4 or their Charisma, while CC just gets their Charisma?
I’ve heard this analysis from multiple creators, but I’m still perplexed. Zombies and skeletons don’t have souls, do they? And if not, doesn’t this mean that Divine Lance no longer affects them?
Not quite, undead lore wise have kinda like negative soul being animated by void energy which opposes vitality and sits at the same level as spirit energy
This makes me wish the Champion had been in this book instead of the fighter or Rogue. I feel those two were fine without the remaster changes and werent the most important. (Honestly feel fighter could have been largely ignored and Magus added since it has large changes tied to spell schools disappearing) . However the new Sanctification and alignment changes means Champion needs a near complete reimagining and has a lot of new design space to play in. Have two champions in my current campaign and feels weird for them to stay the same while the cleric gets a lot of new mechanics to play with. As well as getting rid of alignment when their abilities are so intrinsically tied to alignment
You need to remember that this book is replacing the Core Rulebook as the entry point for new players. Not including the Fighter and Rogue would have been a horrible mistake. They, along with Cleric, Druid, and Wizard form what you might call the 'core five' of fantasy RPG games
@@nobullfarming still feels shitty to have the class that probably had the most fundamental changes both flavor wise and mechanically not included. Also one of the classes Ive felt has needed a balance pass the worst due to being one of the more pigeon holed classes in the game and having mostly trash feats for the first 6 or so levels of the game.
3:57 it isn't always 4, it becomes 5 at level 5 and 6 and level 15
Indeed you are correct
Seems the math is the same as if you started with 16 Charisma and increased it at 5/10/15.
I'm actually so happy that warpriest got better. Raise Symbol is my favorite change that the Priest got.
Warpriest is unironically one of the tankiest (as in hard to kill, not actual tanking due to tank fallacy) classes now. Not only does one get heavy armor, but with raise symbol you can stack all 3 universal saving throw bonuses (item, status, circumstance) and they crit succeed on Will and Constitution, which are the most important saves. Finally, if there's a terrifying dex save out there, you can Tempt Fate eventually, and you'll be more likely to succeed than fail. Add in the hardness boosts and even meme it up with emblazon anti magic and WP is just not going down.
And they still do be a full caster too.
Dont forget Canny Acumen (Master in Reflex at 17th lvl, so you can take it at 19th) and Channeling Block (new feat for 14th lvl I think). I was running a solo campaign for a Warpriest, so hes going to be getting the new feats as we move over to using the remaster.
Thanks for the to-the-point update. Much better than a two-hour stream.
I have a dwarf warpriest that appreciates this greatly.
So do I, he was using his clan dagger for defense, but he may pick up a shield, with the remaster.
@@georgeharris6851with the holy emblem on the shield!
Same! Or, well, I will once our campaign starts in the coming spring.
Thanks for all of this really helpful Remaster content, it's so nice to not have to rely on watching Roll for Combat's obnoxious streams for information and analysis.
I was always interested in Warpriest before but was a tad hesitant due to the criticisms. Now it looks so fun that I have to play it!
Most of these new feats are absolutely amazing. Even more so if you compare them to the whole lot of nothing the Wizard got.
Thankfully, my DM let me change my Anadi Cloistered Cleric of Gozreh to a Warpriest of Gozreh after the remaster dropped. It was a HUGE boon to my character. Remaster Cleric is quickly becoming my new favorite class!
Zealous Rush with Shield Cantrip can give you a lot of mobility.
Definitions per BLG: Insane: Anything worth considering.
I wonder how well with these new feats will help a champion if they archetype war priest…or visa versa…🤔
Thank you. Very Informative. It would be insanely good though if you could use a wider range of adjectives.
Found the douchebag
Missed opportunity for "Panic at the Sepulcher"
I was worried that the cleric wasn't going to stay relevant.... Good job paizo
Sacred ground with the harmfull or versitile phont, sounds like a good way to heal undead allys, without harming your living allys.
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I'm actaually in a situation in the game I'm in, where I may have to heal friendly ghosts who tie into a party-member's backstory, and are bound aginst their will to an item we posess. We don't know how to free them; (yet.)
BLG is making me do this
Inviolable should have been level 6, but with scaling over the levels to 3d6 at 18, it would make early game tanky cleric very interesting
Zealous rush I think let’s you cast Weapon Surge or True Strike and still move 10 feet which is really nice if you need that little bit of movement.
Makes getting off a True Strike + Channel Smite combo easier even if you weren’t already adjacent at the start of your turn.
They could have the best of both worlds with the Divine Font by making Warpriest scale differently than Cloistered Cleric. Maybe Warpriests take the higher of 4 or their Charisma, while CC just gets their Charisma?
I’ve heard this analysis from multiple creators, but I’m still perplexed. Zombies and skeletons don’t have souls, do they? And if not, doesn’t this mean that Divine Lance no longer affects them?
Not quite, undead lore wise have kinda like negative soul being animated by void energy which opposes vitality and sits at the same level as spirit energy
Did Cast Down remain the same?
Anything not mentioned in the video did not change
This makes me wish the Champion had been in this book instead of the fighter or Rogue. I feel those two were fine without the remaster changes and werent the most important. (Honestly feel fighter could have been largely ignored and Magus added since it has large changes tied to spell schools disappearing) . However the new Sanctification and alignment changes means Champion needs a near complete reimagining and has a lot of new design space to play in. Have two champions in my current campaign and feels weird for them to stay the same while the cleric gets a lot of new mechanics to play with. As well as getting rid of alignment when their abilities are so intrinsically tied to alignment
You need to remember that this book is replacing the Core Rulebook as the entry point for new players. Not including the Fighter and Rogue would have been a horrible mistake. They, along with Cleric, Druid, and Wizard form what you might call the 'core five' of fantasy RPG games
@@nobullfarming still feels shitty to have the class that probably had the most fundamental changes both flavor wise and mechanically not included. Also one of the classes Ive felt has needed a balance pass the worst due to being one of the more pigeon holed classes in the game and having mostly trash feats for the first 6 or so levels of the game.
2E has all the hallmarks that I hated about 4E...and they doubled down by making star finder the same...wtf paizo. Selling my books from this sh!tshow