The #1 factor in gemstone price
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- Опубліковано 1 січ 2020
- How to look at the 3 components of colour in gemstones. With these three building blocks, you can build an awareness of the price point of gemstones. Without these three concepts, we are doomed to be a schmuck.
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Peter, I wish the entire earth was filled with as much personality as you have. You’re my kind of people
awww shucks, you're too kind.
I've just started learning about coloured gemstones as an every day consumer who's looking to get a custom blue sapphire engagement ring made. Your videos are amazing! I've learned so much and feel very empowered. Thanks for taking the time to educate all of us mere mortals 🤣
Thanks~ and I'm glad to be of service. If you'd like, I may be able to help in sourcing that sapphire for you. Send me an email at thegemshepherd@gmail.com and we can talk through the details and steps we might take.
@@GemologyforSchmucks Sure, can't hurt! I'll send an email later today. Cheers!
This is so awesome!! Well done, I am so engaged and love the information. I can't wait to see more! Yay!
I am officially less of a schmuck now! I'd love to also hear the price difference on today's market for the gems you're showing. It's hard for a schmuck like me to decide whether the INTENSE coloring is more or less desirable than the lighter colors. I know what I like personally, but it would be fun to know what would make a gem cost more or less, based on these things you're talking about! Can't wait for the next video! 💯😀🔥
This was so informative & helpful! Congratulations on starting your new channel 🥰
You should do a Q&A session where people send photos of gems and see if you can identify or give them pointers 😁
Ooff, this sounds like my inbox. XD Not sure i want to encourage that behavior. Thanks for the suggestion though.
I was so worried about being bored when looking this stuff up, but you are delightful! Thank you for keeping it fun!
This is very encouraging to hear, thank you. I hope you've subscribed, as i've got more and better coming each week :D
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If you have just ten percent color saturated in the cullet of a standard round brilliant it will make the entire gemstone appear to have that color or slightly lighter actually when it could be completely clear with only color in the very bottom of the stone but gets reflected throughout by the facets
Pardon, is this a statement or a question? The major factor to keep in mind here is what we call "light path", which is how long the wavelengths of light from outside the stone travel through the coloured parts of the stone. The longer the light spends passing through a coloured zone, the more of those particular wavelengths are absorbed by the crystal, which leaves us with our colour. If you have a highly saturated but very small zone of the crystal, and everything else is colourless, then the light path is shorter and the colour will be less intense than if that zone was larger. I'd say you're correct on the part about the colour being located down closer to the culet, owing to the fact that the mirror reflections will carry those wavelengths out in more directions.
@@GemologyforSchmucks it's a question and a Honor for a reply since I'm very honored fan of your work saving money to have you purchase some rough for me. I'm not nearly as knowledgeable in gemology or lapidary properties as you. I have used cuts to brighten or lightening color of stones and placement of gemstone color zones. I was expressing that I have seen several gemstones that have a small amount of color in the cullet with clear rest of the stone and the stone seems to show as completely colored. Now I was doing a simplified version of this and would love for you to address the position of the color zones in the gemstone cuts and the effect a small amount of color can effect the gemstone color as a follow up to this video. Also I have found almost no videos and very few references in books on biasterism (asterism that shows star when lit from behind instead of the front, most common found in pink quartz since it is turned into spheres regularly and you can't detect the asterism before cutting without a electron microscope) so please as a follow up it was intended more as a question so that you can explain more in depth, also just there is no information on biasterism and so few examples that are possible to find. Thank you so much for making your videos and sharing your knowledge sincerely
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Ps I wonder how many people actually know what "shmok" in Yiddish translation is lol so I always laugh at name gemology for schmucks my mother Jewish and my father Muslim my own first name can translate when pronounced to one thing or a slightly different pronouncement is a bad insult it very close like ÁmÏr or amir-a changes to jackass basically every one I have met with name ÁmÏr when father is mad calls them ÁmÏr-A lol
Nice !! Thanks for sharing the knowledge Peter !
Happy to do so ~ we all grow when we share eh?
Interesting! Love to see more
My pleasure ~ The aim is one a week, so firing up the next one here shortly :D
Hey Peter! This is awesome information. Suggest if you can enlighten us more on the heated & treated of a gemstone. Awesome vid!
Hi Zulqarnain ~ thanks for the encouragement and suggestion. That's definitely on the list of things i'd like to talk about :D
I'm buying myself a ring soon and my curiosity brought me to your page. I love your content.
Thanks Stacy~ I hope that my works serves you. Let me know if you have other questions that I can assist with: thegemshepherd@gmail.com
Really excited to learn about this.
Glad to hear it~
Love this!
Really great information, especially for me since I am seeking my GG and I am doing distance education classes from GIA.Your videos help me digest the information I have been learning about online. Many thanks. Looking forward to more💕
My pleasure Izze~ good luck with your continuing studies.
How has the distance learning GG course from GIA been for you? I'm considering taking it when I'm out of highschool but am torn between vitrutal or in person courses.
Bravo and congratz to your premiere on UA-cam.
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Keep up the good work Sir.
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Too underrated you beautiful man. Thanks.
Oh Shucks~ i'm blushing XD Thank you.
Awesome man keep going, cheers from Brasil!
Thank you for your support Animus ~ I look forward to seeing you around.
Thankbu for the video❤
I feel so educated 🤯 Great job!!!!
Thank you Thank you~ I strive to educate and engage ^_^
Dude you are fucking awesome. I appreciate your expertise as I’m getting into gems. The way you explain things is awesome and very casual. I’m gonna binge this series.
Thanks for your kind words, and i'm glad that my work is of service to you.
Thanks for teaching us about the hue, tone and saturation of a stone. I'll always forget that sapphire & rubies are the same material. 😂
One step at a time eh? Cheers~
@@GemologyforSchmucks More of a fine point than a fundamental would be color zoning. You could sneak that subject into a future video unless it's already in another one, which I suspect by the sheer volume of videos you've published. What a fine collection of stones!
@@DonariaRegia An excellent suggestion. There's touches of colour zoning in other videos, but a full on video is also in the works. Cheers~
I am starting out with teh study of Gemology and I'm happy it's a 19 years old teaching me, if you know what I mean
Welcome to the channel
I am new to gemstone business because it's our family business but I wanted to know more things from where I can started and learn things guide me in this
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Thanks~
So... does a "pigeon blood" ruby require all 3 elements of color or just hue and tone ( or just hue ), or...?
Great question - that will depend on the lab making the call. The more objective answer is that "pigeon blood" or any of the other named colours in the industry are going to be a combination of all 3 factors, and usually a spectrum range. SO there is the historical pigeons blood that some of the old dealers talk about, and then there is the sliding scale of pigeons blood red depending on if you send your stone to this lab or that lab.
My opinion is that the consumer should decide with their eyes or work with a dealer that they trust. Labs should have no part in a cultural thing such as this, but alas, people want a 3rd party opinion, and they think they're getting it from labs.
@@GemologyforSchmucks Thanks for the history lesson and how definitions evolve (perhaps similar to the modern day evolution of terms (at least in the USA) over time, such as "marriage", "racism", "socialism" etc) Personally i like the red(est) of red for ruby even though i have seen some (photos) of "pigeon blood" that seem (to me) too purple-ish...
@@superfluity-of-naughtiness777 Who knows what they look like in real life. Cameras play the fool with ruby, almost as maddeningly as with emeralds.
This man must have a low saturation because he's thirsty as hell.
Soundwave goodness gracious, get those saturation levels up then. If we try and add to the saturation levels of a stone, we have to call it treated. Fortunately people can do that, unlike gemstones.
Gasp! Got my sub lol
Splendid~ welcome to the channel.
Thank you for culturely enriching us... 😂😂😂
I do what I can to share what i've been so freely taught ^_^
Is violet not a color on the nm?
Violet is indeed measurable in nanometers. It is the far side of the spectrum from red.(which is why we say "ultraviolet" - beyond the violet end of visible waves, and infra-red... below the red wavelengths). Purple however is not~ evidently its a "sensation" that we create, by combining red and violet. The way light works and how our eyes interact with it is deeply fascinating.
I live Toronto Peter but now iam in going to africa if I can have email I will contact you
I have job interview tomorrow for a jewelry related job wish me luck
Hopefully everything went as it should~
at minuit 6 the darkest stone looks like an iolith.
Similarities with Iolite, yes. The major difference is how much pleochroism iolite will show when rotated 90*
Purple does not exist but we are it all the time in rainbows
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@@GemologyforSchmucks You are delightful :D discovered your channel late last night on a whim and found everything fascinating. Subscribed! (I also learned Mandarin because I loved the language) Take care.
The way you are explaining tone is not correct. The saturation is not what changes the tone, tone is a function of how much gray do you have in the color.
There may be gaps in my understand of tone, and I'm willing to admit that. Imperfection aside, I am confident that saturation and tone are interrelated while not entirely overlapping, and that over-saturation definitely drags down tone. If tone is a function of how gray something is, help me understand how hyper-intense blue or green stones seem over-dark without seeming muted or "gray"? If you have some examples that could help me understand your point more fully, I'd love to hear and consider them.
Gemology for Schmucks. Tone and saturation are independent, together with hue it will define the particular color of your gem. If you have more saturation the color will be more intense, if you have less saturation the color will be less intense. In the case of tone, you will be moving up from lightness to darkness.
You can try to see the effects of changing both in your tv, to see the effect they have. 👍🏽
@@berenicebajoleyva8964 Thanks for your reply. On the individual effects of tone and saturation, I totally agree, and I hope that I explained that clearly in the video. The only sticking point that we have is on whether hue and saturation have interrelation. I suppose the concept we're getting into is quite abstract. I'll be looking to see in the market what gems can validate what you have said. Thanks for the food for thought ~ always looking to learn and grow.
@@GemologyforSchmucks Great video! As a former photographer and photography teacher, the way I have always explained tone is to think of the world 'in black and white'. If you remove all the colour from a scene (making everything sit on a spectrum from white - brightest through light grey, mid grey, dark grey and then black - darkest), how light or dark something is, is the tone. Squinting your eyes when looking at something can help you focus on the relative tones of things. In photography you can turn a photo to black and white on the computer to focus on tones, although you need to make sure you do this by simply removing all saturation, and not by using a black and white preset, as these vary in the way they tonally register diffferent hues.
I agree with you that there is some interrelationship between tone and saturation, with bright tonality often going hand-in-hand with less saturation, and dark tonality more often being found with greater saturation. However, it would be possible to have a stone, say a sapphire for example, that was a very dark tone but had a lot of grey and not much blue in the hue, and thus low saturation.
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