Thanks. Watched your vids on the DATs to help repair a DTC75ES. Hd the broken gear, loading belt, degreased, change electrlytics plus more. Thanks for the honest approach showing several tries to fix. I did my transport in and out about 4 or 5 times too.
Just FYI, I bought a Fostex D-5 DAT off eBay a couple of weeks ago. This is a pro-level mastering DAT. The seller said it was untested other than that it turned on. I got it for a well under $100 and all it needed was a single $1 voltage regulator chip. So you can find bargains, you just have to be careful and also be willing to take a risk.
To be honest, I don't understand most of what I see on my screen or what Dave says by way of commenting, but I watch stubbornly to witness VICTORY OF MIND OVER MATTER, most of the time, and to admire.
I love these old Dat machines, I found an old Sony PCM 7040 in a skip, it took me an hour to find a bad connection on one of the pcb connectors just like the ones you fond on this one. My play has been running fine now for the last few years. Well worth the time I put into it 😁
The Sony PC boards are notorious for solder not sticking completely around the pads. I haven’t tried to use steel wool to shine the copper pads and flux the pads before re-soldering.
@@12voltvids Ebay isnt always bad I found a refurbished sony dat walkman dc8 and it works beutifully the seller gave me a case a mic and an ac adapter to.
I just bought a Sony CFS-9000 (1985) APM Midi hifi from ebay, BUT the seller was in the next state and with total communication and sent me a video of it working. its like brand new condition besides needed 2 belts for the tape mech. So yes you can buy off ebay but ask for a working video with the current date shown in the video and don't trust the description :)
Well done as always. As I watch more of your videos these machines................Temperamental beyond belief. Question, Sony or Tascam whch Mfg. would you recommend for a 1st time buyer? Have a feeling Tascam. Enjoyed the tape repair at the end.
You gave it a good go, can't win em all. If it was worth a hell of a lot of cash, maybe looking at the schematic and trying to get a compatable smd chip to stick in the place of the blob might be worth it. A chip off a vcr drum maybe. But it's not worth the effort. That locked up motor was really strange :-(
This broken DAT machine can still be used as a bus ("glue") compressor to purely run audio in and out without recording. This was a technique used by some audio engineers in the 1990s when things were mostly analog; You could run your audio through a DAT machine at the end before printing to cassette or 2 track master. By current standards, the AD/DA will be grimy at best, so maybe this would be used by music producers who create EDM or urban styles of music. Still, there is value in the device so don't let it go to waste.
I have the Sony TCD-D100 DAT Walkman like new and works excellent and I am glad you put up videos of the other Sony DAT models to avoid with common problems thankyou :)
Nice job, sir. Thank you for sharing this fine video! Posting the commercials would be nice. I picked up a bunch of Panasonic DVR tapes that also had the local high school and college originated PBS shows on them. I need to take another look at them and see if they would be worth posting. You are quite awesome. Please keep posting!
Many of the commercials have long been erased and the tapes reused. One was for a transmission shop. I remember that one. "Beep beep, Aamco, double A MCO."
I had to return a replacement board for a tv recently to the US. Since I used PayPal I was able to get my shipping cost refunded at least. I did lose the brokerage fee as you mentioned. It was a bit of a chore but I did get my shipping cost of $20 covered.
29:49 It's difficult to measure voltages on live machine on capstan motor connector. As connector itself not attached to the circuit board it's flexing by moving and its tiny pins can break sometimes, you will see under microscope/magnifying glass, check every pin of 8 pin connector, maybe resolder pins to the board will also help discovering if some connector pins to the board had been already broken.
33:21 Capstan motor could be jammed if magnetic metallic objects could fall inside (like screws or metal pins, etc.) and stick attached to permanent magnets inside. When opening those objects could fell off and assembling would resolving mechanical jamming issue.
Guy picked it up from Goodwill for $12.00, loaded a DAT and it "worked" because it mechanically loaded the tape. Guy threw it up on Ebay as working (it worked in loading a tape, and the display lit up) and it sold. Buyer beware.....Have him send a vid of it playing before you buy it. Bummer
@@12voltvids I have been a little naughty and used data dat tape but no further than the dd2 dat tape. reason is I can get them cheap and plentiful at a computer recycle store new. I also have a dat head cleaner around an ibm one but the 75 has a pad that brushes the heads. I would love to find some more made up tapes to use for mine like dj used ones or radio or whatever.
@@rmx77 I used many computer tapes. Even longer tapes. They run 3 hours in sp and 6 in LP. No issues with them. I bought boxes of them new. Back in the day because they were dirt cheap. Like 3.00 each on clearance.
On Ebay if an item is not as described the seller, not the buyer, is liable for return postage. I've had quite a few things for free and fixed them via people like you :). Thanks
That generally only applies to items shipped to and from the United States. I had something that was not working and it went back but I had to take it to the states to mail it. When there's international shipping involved they don't refund the shipping. Again this unit is in the buyer's Court I talked to him yesterday told him the motor is effed up at this point he just said hang on to it you can have it for parts. If he can negotiate a way to ship it back I'm sure he will contact me but at this point it's just going to sit on a shelf with all the other junk that people have abandoned and someday I may come up for the head for it or I may need to use it for parts to fix my own. Either way I wasted half a day trying to get this one going and got nothing for it. All I make is the advertising revenue off the UA-cam channel which is now 30% less that it used to be as UA-cam is deducting US taxes. Then I still have to pay Canadian tax on the remainder. So it kind of sucks now being a content producer as there isn't much left after the taxman takes his cut.
@@12voltvids I see. I've had some stuff refunded where the return address is in China but the seller address was the UK, where I am. That might explain my refunds. Jeez 30% less from YT. I wonder what the reason they gave for that. With most people indoors the past year I would of thought they were doing pretty well.
@@khaz606 well that's the US government. Irs has their hands in people's pockets even if they are not American. 30% royalty tax on all us earnings. That means us views. Does not apply to views in other countries but considering that the us viewers make up about 80% of the views world wide that is a significant portion. Then like everyone else this is declared income. eBay sellers also have to report their sales to Canada revenue. Sure if you're just selling your old toaster they might not care about the 10 bucks you made but people that run a business selling on eBay they get taxed just like everybody else. Get this even patreon donations, donators pay a tax in many countries when they donate on patreon. In Europe it's the vat and in Canada is the GST. Well the IRS they take their share from American contributors as well. Haven't figured out what they take because I make squat from patreon. That's why I don't even bother putting content up much on patreon now because I don't make enough from Patriot members to make it worth my while.
I hate it when I get somebody else's attempt to repair a consumer piece; "in that case I charge extra due to the fact additional work is usually required along with missing parts".
Unfortunately, some of us live in pretty small towns with limited transportation and EBay is our only way to get this stuff. But I think it’s worth saving up for a good one and not one that’s “untested” or “parts or repair” I also read Sony’s consumer DAT decks should be avoided?
@@oldradiosnphonographs When they work they are fantastic. The problem is they are very mechanical. If you have a day, use it on a regular basis it will probably last a while. Leave it sit for months and there is a good chance it won't work. Mechanical parts gey gummed up. Units sold on eBay are typically been units that have been sitting around for years and pretty much all of them need service. Some minor others major. The newest dat you will find is at least 17 years old now. They stopped production in 2005.
@@12voltvids I understand. thankfully I do know a repair technician near me who’s had many years experience. I’m hoping he can repair my 3M Revere tape deck from 1962. But then again things from the 60s tend to be more repairable than things from the 90s.
That's very true, and the stuff i fix for eBay sellers arrives in good shape but still there is a high percentage of broken devices sold. It's one thing buying something untested. That is a dead giveaway that it is broken. Now according to the guy that owned this one the seller said it worked the last time he used it. So does that mean it worked when he placed the auction, or does that mean it worked when he put it into storage 20 years ago? The seller offered the buyer a refund of his $240 only after it was received returned. I would probably have returned it personally being out $275 for shipping the broken piece back and forth is better than being out $500 but that's just me.
I have been a seller on eBay for many years and it is my experience that eBay treats its buyers extremely well in most cases, and in many cases to well. As a seller for years now you can't even leave negative feedback for a scamming buyer, all you can do is block them from future purchases. I mostly sell NOS vintage cookware and I have had people return items because they aren't as heavy as they remembered, or they think the factory machining marks are sanding marks that I made, etc. and eBay has made me pay the return shipping in many of these ridiculous cases! I can't imagine that if this was advertised as being in working condition that eBay would not refund 100% of his money plus shipping fees both ways if it arrived inoperable. That is just wrong to lose almost $500 because the seller likely lied about the function of the unit. It is always a possibility that it could have broken in shipping.
You can see that someone has put a mark on the digital mode switch... So, they have been IN THERE too. Now, if only you would make a video on how to adjust the timing on the damn thing... I'd watch THAT a few times. :-)
maybe he can file a not as described case with ebay and he can get a refund and keep the player. i have done that with things that came broken from ebay. and now the sellers have to pay to ship the item back. so most people don't want to deal with that so they just tell you to keep it.
The rarity and halted production of DAT tape machines makes them quite unreliable nowadays. They are good for collection or archival conversion only, not for regular use. I think that if someone really needs to record something with digital cd-quality audio from their stereo system a CD recorder or even a good minidisc one is a better option.
Only good for archiving these days. That's all I use mine for. Musicians bring me studio sessions to put on cd or WAV for them because the studios have dumped day, or their home deck is kaput.
buyers can file a claim with ebay if the seller listed the item as working when its clearly not or if it gets damaged and ebay will force the seller to either provide a pre paid label or to pay the return shipping cost back to the buyer.if the seller ignores the return case ebay will just close it out in the buyers favor and tell them to keep the item and give u a full refund at the cost of the seller.
The old saying.”buyer beware “ holds true for EBay purchases! There are many unscrupulous people who have no problem reliving you of your hard earned money.
@Taco there are, but lots of bad ones as well. I used to sell stuff, made alot of money doing it. I was selling a couple of dvds i produced and sold several thousand copies. Then this streaming service called UA-cam came along and made my dvds redundant. I got burned by a buyer once and that was it. No more eBay for me. I guess if I was looking for something specific I would look there but I don't buy anything these days. I have more stereo and AV equipment that I know what to do with so no buying other people's junk for me, besides I get so much of the stuff just given to me. I suggested that the guy that brought his dat player to me try filing a chargeback with his credit card and see whether he can get at least some of his money back without having to return it. I mean that's how I got burned, the lens I sold had nothing wrong with it, just the buyer bought the wrong lens he bought a half inch lens for a 2/3 inch camera and then complained it didn't work, had a dark image in the corners, duh it was a 1/2" lens for a 1/2 camera and he was using it on a 2/3". A year later they sided with him and I lost $2,500 and he never returned my lens. eBay and PayPal for that matter they're only solution was to give me names of companies that for a fee would try to recover my property.
@@12voltvids bruh you should have seen the playstation i bought off facebook. i found a too-good-to-be-true PS4 pro on marketplace for $300 with games and an AOC monitor. well, the dumbass stuck it all in an enormous package (NO PADDING OR ANYTHING) and sent it through the US Post Office (NO). everything was just flying around in the box in transit. by some miracle the PS4 pro machine was unharmed, and the hard drive survived perfectly. the monitor wasn’t so lucky, it was totally shot inside and out. and when facebook refunded me, the seller turned irate. all in all i got a free console lmao
He should of bought two of them so he can maybe get one to work! eBay junk, the seller knows the buyer is out $200 in just shipping just to start getting a refund...
Yup that the way it works. I had one time bought a calculator a vintage calculator that used panaplex displays. I think I might have shown it on my channel too, but it didn't work and the buyer offered to refund my money if I shipped it. Because it was a small item the sent me a return label prepaid, problem was I had to pack the unit drive it to the states and mail it in the states because I couldn't ship from Canada with it. that was a hassle in itself because when I cross the border to go to the Post office US Customs charged me a $10 fee to drive it across the border to mail it so even at that it cost me like $13 Canadian to ship back something that was defective.
According to the guy that bought it it was advertised as working last time used. That to me means about the same as untested because the seller didn't say when it last worked. Actually that's a great catch-all because when you think about it everything did work, everything the last time it was used and then it didn't. Ask anyone who's ever been stranded by their car. "Well it started the last time i drove it"
i do buy md decks off fleabay, spares or repair, i know what i am letting myself in for, its nearly always somebody f'ing about with something they know nothing about, ive won all the battles so far, but on the other end of the scale you can get lucky, i once won a jb930 for next to nothing as it had no sound output, thought pretty sure whats wrong with that, got it and it worked spot on, the seller only had mdlp recorded discs and with a 930 and earlier models that means no sound, good low hours drive too, bargain, still have it
@@lesrogers7310 have a 980 also, net md aside the 930 is far better build, and as for dat decks i wouldent touch one with a ten foot barge pole and the same goes for dcc
@@johnr4459 You surprise me with this comment. I thought that both the 930 and 980 were part of Sony's 'OS' range so both should really be very well made.
@@lesrogers7310 they are, but in the 980 there is no toroidal psu, just a simple iron core, no expensive boards and quality components, inside the 980 is like a 480 in drag, having said all that i have no complaints abouts its performance
@@johnr4459 It is very good deck. Actually, after having the first one fail on me, i am extremely happy with the performance of my Denon machine. But then i did put a lot of work into refurbishing it.
last year i got an silver dtc 77es with the wooden panels and all that was wrong were the capacitors in the head amplifiers. This has four heads, so two amps. Repairing is defenetly not a job for everyone. Untrained persons will destroy these device really easy. Thats propable, what the seller of this dtc75 did. Just too sad.
I did the Cal's on my 75es a few years back. Still working or at least it was the last time I used it. Just had to put that in seemed appropriate considering that this one that's what the seller said. Last time I used my 75 was probably 2 years ago so with my luck if I turn it on now it probably is not working because anybody that knows anything about DAT or VCRs for that matter knows that if you don't use it at least once a month it is going to break down just from sitting. That's the biggest problem with all this Legacy gear. If you don't use it especially the stuff that's very mechanical such as tape decks and VCRs, they don't like sitting around. That's why I like all the new modern stuff no moving parts nothing to break it's happy just sitting there not powered up and when you need to use it to plug it in and it works.
Sony shouldn't have bothered with dat machines, they ought to have made a digital recorder that uses beta tape instead would have saved the company money and the machine would have had at least 3 times the recording length, shitty lead free solder to blame yea? powering it on with dodgy edge connectors causing high resistance in turn damaging the motor controller?
They already had the pcm encoder for beta and for that matter umatic tapes. DAT was devoloped with field recording in mind. As a professional format. There were also multi track dat recorders that used a hi8 tape that would record 8 tracks.
Can't quite understand why you trash Ebay so much, I have had hundreds and hundreds of purchases off Ebay and have only had one bad one which came from America so I now don't buy from the USA, the postage is mad anyway often costing more than the item you're purchasing!
I trash eBay and PayPal because i sold my old broadcast camera, shipped it and 3 months later the buyer asked to return it. I said no, all sales final and the buyer filed a chargeback. Dispute went on for 10 months and i lost 2700.00 as they gave him his money back and I never got my camera back. All eBay did was give me names of companies that said for 500 they would try to get my camera back. This should never have happened. I learned alot about the so called seller protection plan which amounts to nothing.
Thanks. Watched your vids on the DATs to help repair a DTC75ES. Hd the broken gear, loading belt, degreased, change electrlytics plus more. Thanks for the honest approach showing several tries to fix. I did my transport in and out about 4 or 5 times too.
Just FYI, I bought a Fostex D-5 DAT off eBay a couple of weeks ago. This is a pro-level mastering DAT. The seller said it was untested other than that it turned on. I got it for a well under $100 and all it needed was a single $1 voltage regulator chip. So you can find bargains, you just have to be careful and also be willing to take a risk.
To be honest, I don't understand most of what I see on my screen or what Dave says by way of commenting, but I watch stubbornly to witness VICTORY OF MIND OVER MATTER, most of the time, and to admire.
what amazes me is you do these delicate jobs and you are a big man with big hands
I have the hands of a surgeon.
I love watching your videos not only for the advertised content but all the side info you share
I love these old Dat machines, I found an old Sony PCM 7040 in a skip, it took me an hour to find a bad connection on one of the pcb connectors just like the ones you fond on this one. My play has been running fine now for the last few years.
Well worth the time I put into it 😁
The Sony PC boards are notorious for solder not sticking completely around the pads. I haven’t tried to use steel wool to shine the copper pads and flux the pads before re-soldering.
How you manage to put all the screws back and wires back without an ordered compartmentalized screw holder is beyond me.
Because i am smart.
Decades of experience in the repair space. This is what makes the difference between a DIY person and a professional.
35 years experience
@@walle637 More like 40.
@@12voltvids Ebay isnt always bad I found a refurbished sony dat walkman dc8 and it works beutifully the seller gave me a case a mic and an ac adapter to.
I just bought a Sony CFS-9000 (1985) APM Midi hifi from ebay, BUT the seller was in the next state and with total communication and sent me a video of it working. its like brand new condition besides needed 2 belts for the tape mech. So yes you can buy off ebay but ask for a working video with the current date shown in the video and don't trust the description :)
A lot of eBay sellers just turn it on And if it lights up They say tested OK
Well done as always. As I watch more of your videos these machines................Temperamental beyond belief. Question, Sony or Tascam whch Mfg. would you recommend for a 1st time buyer? Have a feeling Tascam. Enjoyed the tape repair at the end.
Got a few more DAT machines in to work on.
You gave it a good go, can't win em all.
If it was worth a hell of a lot of cash, maybe looking at the schematic and trying to get a compatable smd chip to stick in the place of the blob might be worth it.
A chip off a vcr drum maybe.
But it's not worth the effort.
That locked up motor was really strange :-(
I have a parts wrecker tcd10 that is broken. Perhaps the drum is the same. Will look into that.
This broken DAT machine can still be used as a bus ("glue") compressor to purely run audio in and out without recording. This was a technique used by some audio engineers in the 1990s when things were mostly analog; You could run your audio through a DAT machine at the end before printing to cassette or 2 track master.
By current standards, the AD/DA will be grimy at best, so maybe this would be used by music producers who create EDM or urban styles of music. Still, there is value in the device so don't let it go to waste.
I have the Sony TCD-D100 DAT Walkman like new and works excellent and I am glad you put up videos of the other Sony DAT models to avoid with common problems thankyou :)
Nice job, sir. Thank you for sharing this fine video! Posting the commercials would be nice. I picked up a bunch of Panasonic DVR tapes that also had the local high school and college originated PBS shows on them. I need to take another look at them and see if they would be worth posting. You are quite awesome. Please keep posting!
Many of the commercials have long been erased and the tapes reused. One was for a transmission shop. I remember that one. "Beep beep, Aamco, double A MCO."
Have one of these I bought on eBay years ago, makes a great paperweight. Accepts a tape but doesn't play it.
I had to return a replacement board for a tv recently to the US. Since I used PayPal I was able to get my shipping cost refunded at least. I did lose the brokerage fee as you mentioned. It was a bit of a chore but I did get my shipping cost of $20 covered.
29:49 It's difficult to measure voltages on live machine on capstan motor connector.
As connector itself not attached to the circuit board it's flexing by moving and its tiny pins can break sometimes, you will see under microscope/magnifying glass, check every pin of 8 pin connector, maybe resolder pins to the board will also help discovering if some connector pins to the board had been already broken.
33:21 Capstan motor could be jammed if magnetic metallic objects could fall inside (like screws or metal pins, etc.) and stick attached to permanent magnets inside.
When opening those objects could fell off and assembling would resolving mechanical jamming issue.
Guy picked it up from Goodwill for $12.00, loaded a DAT and it "worked" because it mechanically loaded the tape. Guy threw it up on Ebay as working (it worked in loading a tape, and the display lit up) and it sold. Buyer beware.....Have him send a vid of it playing before you buy it. Bummer
I have the 75es myself and all that's wrong with mine is a loading belt everything else works perfectly. love my 75es though great unit.
I have one too, and a 680 I think. Same mechanism. I have a bunch of 6 hour mix tapes.
@@12voltvids I have been a little naughty and used data dat tape but no further than the dd2 dat tape. reason is I can get them cheap and plentiful at a computer recycle store new. I also have a dat head cleaner around an ibm one but the 75 has a pad that brushes the heads. I would love to find some more made up tapes to use for mine like dj used ones or radio or whatever.
@@rmx77 I used many computer tapes. Even longer tapes. They run 3 hours in sp and 6 in LP. No issues with them. I bought boxes of them new. Back in the day because they were dirt cheap. Like 3.00 each on clearance.
On Ebay if an item is not as described the seller, not the buyer, is liable for return postage. I've had quite a few things for free and fixed them via people like you :). Thanks
That generally only applies to items shipped to and from the United States. I had something that was not working and it went back but I had to take it to the states to mail it. When there's international shipping involved they don't refund the shipping. Again this unit is in the buyer's Court I talked to him yesterday told him the motor is effed up at this point he just said hang on to it you can have it for parts. If he can negotiate a way to ship it back I'm sure he will contact me but at this point it's just going to sit on a shelf with all the other junk that people have abandoned and someday I may come up for the head for it or I may need to use it for parts to fix my own. Either way I wasted half a day trying to get this one going and got nothing for it. All I make is the advertising revenue off the UA-cam channel which is now 30% less that it used to be as UA-cam is deducting US taxes. Then I still have to pay Canadian tax on the remainder. So it kind of sucks now being a content producer as there isn't much left after the taxman takes his cut.
@@12voltvids I see. I've had some stuff refunded where the return address is in China but the seller address was the UK, where I am. That might explain my refunds. Jeez 30% less from YT. I wonder what the reason they gave for that. With most people indoors the past year I would of thought they were doing pretty well.
@@khaz606 well that's the US government. Irs has their hands in people's pockets even if they are not American. 30% royalty tax on all us earnings. That means us views. Does not apply to views in other countries but considering that the us viewers make up about 80% of the views world wide that is a significant portion. Then like everyone else this is declared income. eBay sellers also have to report their sales to Canada revenue. Sure if you're just selling your old toaster they might not care about the 10 bucks you made but people that run a business selling on eBay they get taxed just like everybody else. Get this even patreon donations, donators pay a tax in many countries when they donate on patreon. In Europe it's the vat and in Canada is the GST. Well the IRS they take their share from American contributors as well. Haven't figured out what they take because I make squat from patreon. That's why I don't even bother putting content up much on patreon now because I don't make enough from Patriot members to make it worth my while.
Your saying it will cost $500 to ship the damn thing?
The cat won my view
I hate it when I get somebody else's attempt to repair a consumer piece; "in that case I charge extra due to the fact additional work is usually required along with missing parts".
Unfortunately, some of us live in pretty small towns with limited transportation and EBay is our only way to get this stuff. But I think it’s worth saving up for a good one and not one that’s “untested” or “parts or repair” I also read Sony’s consumer DAT decks should be avoided?
All dat decks should be avoided. Same with VCRs.
@@12voltvids That bad huh?
@@oldradiosnphonographs
When they work they are fantastic. The problem is they are very mechanical.
If you have a day, use it on a regular basis it will probably last a while. Leave it sit for months and there is a good chance it won't work. Mechanical parts gey gummed up. Units sold on eBay are typically been units that have been sitting around for years and pretty much all of them need service. Some minor others major. The newest dat you will find is at least 17 years old now. They stopped production in 2005.
@@12voltvids I understand. thankfully I do know a repair technician near me who’s had many years experience. I’m hoping he can repair my 3M Revere tape deck from 1962. But then again things from the 60s tend to be more repairable than things from the 90s.
@@oldradiosnphonographs the problem is parts. They are obsolete and have been for many years.
To be fair, you only get to see the eBay stuff that's broken, rather than all the eBay electronic sales, but I get the point.
That's very true, and the stuff i fix for eBay sellers arrives in good shape but still there is a high percentage of broken devices sold. It's one thing buying something untested. That is a dead giveaway that it is broken. Now according to the guy that owned this one the seller said it worked the last time he used it. So does that mean it worked when he placed the auction, or does that mean it worked when he put it into storage 20 years ago? The seller offered the buyer a refund of his $240 only after it was received returned. I would probably have returned it personally being out $275 for shipping the broken piece back and forth is better than being out $500 but that's just me.
Is the ribbon cable plugged in on that circuit board
What the drum motor? No actually it is just flapping there freely.
In the UK with eBay if something arrives damaged or not as described the seller has to pay the return postage charges.
I was about to say the same thing. Maybe that's not the case in Canada or possibly the fact that it crosses the border into the US changes things.
I have been a seller on eBay for many years and it is my experience that eBay treats its buyers extremely well in most cases, and in many cases to well. As a seller for years now you can't even leave negative feedback for a scamming buyer, all you can do is block them from future purchases. I mostly sell NOS vintage cookware and I have had people return items because they aren't as heavy as they remembered, or they think the factory machining marks are sanding marks that I made, etc. and eBay has made me pay the return shipping in many of these ridiculous cases! I can't imagine that if this was advertised as being in working condition that eBay would not refund 100% of his money plus shipping fees both ways if it arrived inoperable. That is just wrong to lose almost $500 because the seller likely lied about the function of the unit. It is always a possibility that it could have broken in shipping.
ebay might have replacement drum board?
Motor was sticking maybe because last person torqued the screws too tight to stator assembly?
Also Happy Father's Day weekend!
You can see that someone has put a mark on the digital mode switch... So, they have been IN THERE too. Now, if only you would make a video on how to adjust the timing on the damn thing... I'd watch THAT a few times. :-)
The unit is all back together.
Thank you so much Sir !!
Until the magic smoke escapes, there is still hope!
This machine was repaired and it is now in my stereo cabinet in my living room. There is a video of the repair. I changed out the drum.
Hi bro I dol very good video thank you
Ahh, Elevated Standard. 🤔 It's a eBay Sony
maybe he can file a not as described case with ebay and he can get a refund and keep the player. i have done that with things that came broken from ebay. and now the sellers have to pay to ship the item back. so most people don't want to deal with that so they just tell you to keep it.
The rarity and halted production of DAT tape machines makes them quite unreliable nowadays. They are good for collection or archival conversion only, not for regular use. I think that if someone really needs to record something with digital cd-quality audio from their stereo system a CD recorder or even a good minidisc one is a better option.
Only good for archiving these days. That's all I use mine for. Musicians bring me studio sessions to put on cd or WAV for them because the studios have dumped day, or their home deck is kaput.
I wonder how these plug connections on the servo board were broken?
Wave solder. Not enough heat to properly the pins.
buyers can file a claim with ebay if the seller listed the item as working when its clearly not or if it gets damaged and ebay will force the seller to either provide a pre paid label or to pay the return shipping cost back to the buyer.if the seller ignores the return case ebay will just close it out in the buyers favor and tell them to keep the item and give u a full refund at the cost of the seller.
14:37 Move the decimal place one digit to the left and that's what I'd pay. I think some people get caught up in the bidding and HAVE to win.
I paid 10 for my last dat
The old saying.”buyer beware “ holds true for EBay purchases! There are many unscrupulous people who have no problem reliving you of your hard earned money.
Sucker born every minute. I don't buy anything from eBay. Been bit once and I was selling and i still got screwed.
@Taco there are, but lots of bad ones as well. I used to sell stuff, made alot of money doing it. I was selling a couple of dvds i produced and sold several thousand copies. Then this streaming service called UA-cam came along and made my dvds redundant. I got burned by a buyer once and that was it. No more eBay for me. I guess if I was looking for something specific I would look there but I don't buy anything these days. I have more stereo and AV equipment that I know what to do with so no buying other people's junk for me, besides I get so much of the stuff just given to me. I suggested that the guy that brought his dat player to me try filing a chargeback with his credit card and see whether he can get at least some of his money back without having to return it. I mean that's how I got burned, the lens I sold had nothing wrong with it, just the buyer bought the wrong lens he bought a half inch lens for a 2/3 inch camera and then complained it didn't work, had a dark image in the corners, duh it was a 1/2" lens for a 1/2 camera and he was using it on a 2/3". A year later they sided with him and I lost $2,500 and he never returned my lens. eBay and PayPal for that matter they're only solution was to give me names of companies that for a fee would try to recover my property.
@@12voltvids bruh you should have seen the playstation i bought off facebook. i found a too-good-to-be-true PS4 pro on marketplace for $300 with games and an AOC monitor. well, the dumbass stuck it all in an enormous package (NO PADDING OR ANYTHING) and sent it through the US Post Office (NO). everything was just flying around in the box in transit. by some miracle the PS4 pro machine was unharmed, and the hard drive survived perfectly. the monitor wasn’t so lucky, it was totally shot inside and out.
and when facebook refunded me, the seller turned irate. all in all i got a free console lmao
eBay is not what it was eBay is often the only place you can get certain items. Not a fan of DAT too complicated and it is tape. Nice work as always.
DAT was the best tape format we had. Nothing wrong with dat. Use it all the time.
....but who shot the motor?
Yup soooo many crooks on eBay and other online trading sites. Its always a gamble buying second hand stuff online, just know the risks.
He should of bought two of them so he can maybe get one to work! eBay junk, the seller knows the buyer is out $200 in just shipping just to start getting a refund...
Yup that the way it works. I had one time bought a calculator a vintage calculator that used panaplex displays. I think I might have shown it on my channel too, but it didn't work and the buyer offered to refund my money if I shipped it. Because it was a small item the sent me a return label prepaid, problem was I had to pack the unit drive it to the states and mail it in the states because I couldn't ship from Canada with it. that was a hassle in itself because when I cross the border to go to the Post office US Customs charged me a $10 fee to drive it across the border to mail it so even at that it cost me like $13 Canadian to ship back something that was defective.
Probably was sold " Powers on ".
According to the guy that bought it it was advertised as working last time used. That to me means about the same as untested because the seller didn't say when it last worked. Actually that's a great catch-all because when you think about it everything did work, everything the last time it was used and then it didn't. Ask anyone who's ever been stranded by their car. "Well it started the last time i drove it"
It amazes me that people still buy electrical stuff off Ebay! Those tapes are to fiddly for me!
excellent video thank you
Great video !
Very nice..
i do buy md decks off fleabay, spares or repair, i know what i am letting myself in for, its nearly always somebody f'ing about with something they know nothing about, ive won all the battles so far, but on the other end of the scale you can get lucky, i once won a jb930 for next to nothing as it had no sound output, thought pretty sure whats wrong with that, got it and it worked spot on, the seller only had mdlp recorded discs and with a 930 and earlier models that means no sound, good low hours drive too, bargain, still have it
You did well with that 930. i have one and they're excellent machines. Also have a 920 and DMD-1000.
@@lesrogers7310 have a 980 also, net md aside the 930 is far better build, and as for dat decks i wouldent touch one with a ten foot barge pole and the same goes for dcc
@@johnr4459 You surprise me with this comment. I thought that both the 930 and 980 were part of Sony's 'OS' range so both should really be very well made.
@@lesrogers7310 they are, but in the 980 there is no toroidal psu, just a simple iron core, no expensive boards and quality components, inside the 980 is like a 480 in drag, having said all that i have no complaints abouts its performance
@@johnr4459 It is very good deck. Actually, after having the first one fail on me, i am extremely happy with the performance of my Denon machine. But then i did put a lot of work into refurbishing it.
DAT's all folks!
last year i got an silver dtc 77es with the wooden panels and all that was wrong were the capacitors in the head amplifiers. This has four heads, so two amps. Repairing is defenetly not a job for everyone. Untrained persons will destroy these device really easy. Thats propable, what the seller of this dtc75 did. Just too sad.
I did the Cal's on my 75es a few years back. Still working or at least it was the last time I used it. Just had to put that in seemed appropriate considering that this one that's what the seller said. Last time I used my 75 was probably 2 years ago so with my luck if I turn it on now it probably is not working because anybody that knows anything about DAT or VCRs for that matter knows that if you don't use it at least once a month it is going to break down just from sitting. That's the biggest problem with all this Legacy gear. If you don't use it especially the stuff that's very mechanical such as tape decks and VCRs, they don't like sitting around. That's why I like all the new modern stuff no moving parts nothing to break it's happy just sitting there not powered up and when you need to use it to plug it in and it works.
Sony shouldn't have bothered with dat machines, they ought to have made a digital recorder that uses beta tape instead would have saved the company money and the machine would have had at least 3 times the recording length, shitty lead free solder to blame yea? powering it on with dodgy edge connectors causing high resistance in turn damaging the motor controller?
They already had the pcm encoder for beta and for that matter umatic tapes. DAT was devoloped with field recording in mind. As a professional format. There were also multi track dat recorders that used a hi8 tape that would record 8 tracks.
@@12voltvids cool
like the pussycat do they still come into your work area
Ebay Rant..lol
I don't use eBay myself. Haven't since i got burnt in 2002.
Can't quite understand why you trash Ebay so much, I have had hundreds and hundreds of purchases off Ebay and have only had one bad one which came from America so I now don't buy from the USA, the postage is mad anyway often costing more than the item you're purchasing!
I trash eBay and PayPal because i sold my old broadcast camera, shipped it and 3 months later the buyer asked to return it. I said no, all sales final and the buyer filed a chargeback. Dispute went on for 10 months and i lost 2700.00 as they gave him his money back and I never got my camera back. All eBay did was give me names of companies that said for 500 they would try to get my camera back. This should never have happened. I learned alot about the so called seller protection plan which amounts to nothing.
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