Wow. That was simply incredible. AND beautiful ! Thank you for sharing and satisfying my years long curiosity about Rosettes - truly an Art only accomplished by a select and talented few.
It sure if it will work with the proxxon router, it StewMac sells a router base with a circle attachment for the dremmel with a screw adjustment. I have it and it is pretty awesome indeed. Great work. I love watching your work!
Good effort. We use fly cutters ground to width with 0.15mm for glue tolerance. You will be very fortunate if you manage to avoid yellowing down the cells of your spruce caused by the superglue. These usually come to light when finishing. Cross fingers :)
Very interesting video... As an amature luthier with about 12 guitars under my belt I do think in some steps you may be overthinking a bit and making things a bit more difficult than need be however the results are great which is really all that matters. One of the great things about guitar building is there are very many ways to get to the same end.. oh and rosettes are an expression of the builder's aesthetic .. Well done with yours!!!..... PS bind the interior edge of the sound hole in ebony :-)..
The strength thing: There is wisdom in the old way. The ebony purfling makes a harder edge, but you then open it for impact. If it gets a hit, it's more likely to break loose from the top. When it sits in the groove, it's glued from 3 sides. A hit on the spruce edge bruises it and may cause a split, but that stops at the purfling. Violin edges are made the same way.
Finnish burnishing scissors! That went well. Looks really good. Can't remember seeing one with two-tone wood and abalone. When you started sawing over the soundhole I mentally yelled "What are you doing", but I did in the end realize that the mid part is coming off :-)
Thin CA (Super) glue will usually stain spruce. Therefore it is best to seal the spruce with shellac or a thinned out wood glue before inserting the outside and inside rings and CA gluing them in.
Interesting point about the edge of the sound hole. Thinking about it, I remembered that my classical guitar has tortoise shell around the sound hole, probably for the same reason. Also the top of that one is cedar, probably a bit softer even than spruce.
+Cadwaladr See Esa's comment about spruce edges. You're right that cedar is softer than spruce. Given that we make sure that quality guitars have all their end grain edges covered with binding, I find it odd that we leave the edge of the soundboard raw though.
+John-Erik Karlsson Me too! I'm currently building tools to do the bracing - there will be a few more of those videos before the next 'official' part of the series. You can of course treat those videos as part of the series :-)
What is the jig that you made for cutting the arc into the small pieces of wood on the saw about 4 minutes into the video? That looks like a clever construct and I would love to see how the jig is set up. I have been struggling with consistent ways to get the right taper on pieces for a rosette.
You look proud and should be! A fantastic job! You have much patience Susan! Please make sure the ebony dust doesn't bleed into the top wood when scrapping or sanding? Or have you sealed it? Keep it up! Cheers Rob.
I'm surprised you were able to use such a small diameter "spike" hole and keep things accurate enough. Spruce tops are too soft to really offer much holding resistant to rotate around. A circle cutter with at least a 1/4 inch diameter hole with a metal insert in the spruce is much better to insert a circle cutter's pivot. Then use a 1/4" dia. bit in a laminate router (Bosh Colt or other) makes quick and accurate routing without any wobble like your little hobby router is doing. The extra weight and accuracy of the bearings in the larger router makes things much easier and faster without any significant extra cost.
Oh, and I was talking about the purfling above. And how deep do you route the inlay area? I'm scared of routing too deep on the the top I've ordered :(
Ah yes I watched the video, was just wondering if it was required :) Going to try to make my own iron. What kind of glue is in the long syringe squirty thing at 19:57? I'm at work and I cant hear the audio :( Are they all CA glues?
+andrewenson The ebony will definitely not bend without heat - only a very thin veneer would be flexible enough to not need heat bending. I used a thick CA glue on the tiles, and the thin spout was on a super thin CA glue that wicks into cracks.
you have the patient of a cow they get amusement out of breathing by the way I have not even close to the patients required to enjoy something like this
Sue, wouldn't it be better to leave a lip of spruce around the inside of the sound hole to stabilize the rosette? My thought is that over time the rosette would come loose from possible pick wear.
Wow. That was simply incredible. AND beautiful ! Thank you for sharing and satisfying my years long curiosity about Rosettes - truly an Art only accomplished by a select and talented few.
The patience. The attention to detail. Incredible.
What a meticulous nice job. Congrats.
Your confidence in routing the rosette belied your initial apprehension. I used to make violins so I envy your shop.
That jig you made for cutting curved pieces is so clever! Terrific stuff!
I LOVE THE PASSION YOU HAVE FOR THE WORK YOU DO. I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A LITTLE PART OF ALL THAT PASSION. CONGRATS.
Very clever trick with the mitre block! I'm still learning at 68 thanks👍🏼👍🏼
Truly a thing of beauty. When I first saw the spacers, I didn't realize what they were and I swear I developed a facial tic until I you explained!
Susan: Your ingenuity, patience and great skill are an inspiration; a great pleasure to watch.
Stunning and accurately done,
That was a fantastic creation. great job.
You are really great! Great ideas and techniques you have.
Susan what a great job if that is the level your working to im looking forward to the rest of the build great work .
This is just lovely. You did a wonderful job.
Nice project Susan, enjoyed this content.
You are really dedicated - great work!
Beautiful. Excellent!
Great work.
Fantastic work. Double full marks for persistence
looks really good. well done you.
Fantastic job Susie!
Beautiful design and execution.
Very nice job on the rosette!
It sure if it will work with the proxxon router, it StewMac sells a router base with a circle attachment for the dremmel with a screw adjustment. I have it and it is pretty awesome indeed. Great work. I love watching your work!
Just discovered your vids, many thanks. Building my first oud and your approach is just what I've been looking for.
Good effort. We use fly cutters ground to width with 0.15mm for glue tolerance. You will be very fortunate if you manage to avoid yellowing down the cells of your spruce caused by the superglue. These usually come to light when finishing. Cross fingers :)
Awesome job!
Well done :)
Beautiful to watch it coming together. I wish I could do that.
Terrific !
I love this series. Good job ✌🏻
Very interesting video... As an amature luthier with about 12 guitars under my belt I do think in some steps you may be overthinking a bit and making things a bit more difficult than need be however the results are great which is really all that matters. One of the great things about guitar building is there are very many ways to get to the same end.. oh and rosettes are an expression of the builder's aesthetic .. Well done with yours!!!..... PS bind the interior edge of the sound hole in ebony :-)..
The strength thing: There is wisdom in the old way. The ebony purfling makes a harder edge, but you then open it for impact. If it gets a hit, it's more likely to break loose from the top. When it sits in the groove, it's glued from 3 sides. A hit on the spruce edge bruises it and may cause a split, but that stops at the purfling. Violin edges are made the same way.
+esa062 Thanks for that. I can still leave a spruce edge, but that wasn't my original plan. 2mm of spruce would leave a 90mm soundhole
Finnish burnishing scissors! That went well. Looks really good. Can't remember seeing one with two-tone wood and abalone. When you started sawing over the soundhole I mentally yelled "What are you doing", but I did in the end realize that the mid part is coming off :-)
+esa062 that was the test piece anyway :-)
There's that too, of course :-)
beautiful work!
That’s beautiful
damn, you're good!!!! wonderful job, Susan!!!!
Great video I. Watch a lot of build videos the American ones tend to have a lot of dialogue but don’t tell you much .nice balance and editing ,
Lindo trabalho Susan gardener👍👍🤓
Thin CA (Super) glue will usually stain spruce. Therefore it is best to seal the spruce with shellac or a thinned out wood glue before inserting the outside and inside rings and CA gluing them in.
Looks great!
omg! that's beautiful!!!
Interesting point about the edge of the sound hole. Thinking about it, I remembered that my classical guitar has tortoise shell around the sound hole, probably for the same reason. Also the top of that one is cedar, probably a bit softer even than spruce.
+Cadwaladr See Esa's comment about spruce edges. You're right that cedar is softer than spruce. Given that we make sure that quality guitars have all their end grain edges covered with binding, I find it odd that we leave the edge of the soundboard raw though.
That's amazing.
Nice work, One small point, I tend to pass the lead for a router over my right shoulder, stops it tying itself in knots, Regards, J.
excellent video and build? did you put circumference curves on each of the pieces? maybe I missed it.
Waiting desperatly for next part :-)
+John-Erik Karlsson Me too! I'm currently building tools to do the bracing - there will be a few more of those videos before the next 'official' part of the series. You can of course treat those videos as part of the series :-)
Brilliant
thank you lookin good
Great jig and enjoyable video. I do hope you sealed your soundboard with shellac before you wicked that CA into it
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Billiant Sue.
What is the jig that you made for cutting the arc into the small pieces of wood on the saw about 4 minutes into the video? That looks like a clever construct and I would love to see how the jig is set up. I have been struggling with consistent ways to get the right taper on pieces for a rosette.
I have a video: Dual radius arc cutting jig
Which covers it
I’d hoped to paste the url but I can seem to do it from my phone app
Ah the good old super glue and masking tape technique :)
did you pick that up from the guys at Crimson?
+watchtheskies sure did :-)
I've never understood how one gets flat pieces of abalone from a shell that is anything but. ???
Show very good
You look proud and should be! A fantastic job! You have much patience Susan! Please make sure the ebony dust doesn't bleed into the top wood when scrapping or sanding? Or have you sealed it? Keep it up! Cheers Rob.
I'm surprised you were able to use such a small diameter "spike" hole and keep things accurate enough. Spruce tops are too soft to really offer much holding resistant to rotate around. A circle cutter with at least a 1/4 inch diameter hole with a metal insert in the spruce is much better to insert a circle cutter's pivot. Then use a 1/4" dia. bit in a laminate router (Bosh Colt or other) makes quick and accurate routing without any wobble like your little hobby router is doing. The extra weight and accuracy of the bearings in the larger router makes things much easier and faster without any significant extra cost.
Did you finish the guitar?
Great work please advise the type of router you used , thanks.
It’s a Proxxon
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Are you going to make the guitar semi acoustic
+DJM electro-acoustic. An acoustic guitar, but I will add a passive pickup under the bridge (K&K?)
Hi Susan But is there a SuGar SG1 part 6 can't seem find it or is it a part of another video HELP.
+Brian Hinton be patient. The build will take a while!
Oky Dok
Do you have to bend the inlay wood? Or is it thin enough to just bend by hand and then just glue in?
And keep the videos up, loving your channel!
Oh, and I was talking about the purfling above. And how deep do you route the inlay area? I'm scared of routing too deep on the the top I've ordered :(
+andrewenson I did bend the inlay purfling - I covered that in the previous video. I routed to 1.1mm deep on a 3mm top
Ah yes I watched the video, was just wondering if it was required :) Going to try to make my own iron. What kind of glue is in the long syringe squirty thing at 19:57? I'm at work and I cant hear the audio :( Are they all CA glues?
+andrewenson The ebony will definitely not bend without heat - only a very thin veneer would be flexible enough to not need heat bending. I used a thick CA glue on the tiles, and the thin spout was on a super thin CA glue that wicks into cracks.
What scroll saw do you have?
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Susan Gardener is It satisfactory?
you have the patient of a cow they get amusement out of breathing by the way I have not even close to the patients required to enjoy something like this
Sue, wouldn't it be better to leave a lip of spruce around the inside of the sound hole to stabilize the rosette? My thought is that over time the rosette would come loose from possible pick wear.
Hard wearing? What wear do you expect? Not everyone plays like Martyn Carthy :)
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