Selecting the right stepper motor - Torque test of Nema17 and geared Nema17

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  • Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
  • In this episode we talk about how to convert the torque specifications in Newtonmeter to something more graspable, like kg/m, or lb/inch. We look at the datasheet of a Nema17, and field-test our conversion with different weights. A 27:1 metal-geared Nema17 will also be put to the test, lifting 2.5kg.
    Schematics, code and graphics can be found here: github.com/Lab...
    I am quite new to producing videos, so I am super thankful for tips, comments and suggestions on how to improve!
    (P.S.: I noticed the irritating focus-behavior too late, next time I will set it to manual focus)
    -- My patreon page
    / labstream
    --- Hardware used
    Arduino Nano
    BL-TB6600-V1.2
    Sainsmart Joystick
    KERT stabilized power supply (1-30V, 4A)
    Nema17 stepper motor, plus it's 27:1 geared version
    --- Music
    Intro: "Five Armies" - Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com), Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License, creativecommons...
    Outro: "Learn to fly (instrumental)" - Josh Woodward, Licensed under Creative Commons 4.0 Attribution License, creativecommon...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 206

  • @bartevers1190
    @bartevers1190 5 років тому +249

    “The US is slowly moving towards de metric system. Inch by inch” 😂

    • @federicopinto5053
      @federicopinto5053 5 років тому +3

      Genius

    • @OBoss97
      @OBoss97 5 років тому +1

      😂😂😂😂😂

    • @starboy5935
      @starboy5935 4 роки тому +1

      Genius

    • @planktonfun1
      @planktonfun1 4 роки тому +1

      Remember the blunder where it cost a plane to crash because of the metric system? Probably not. Those who don't read history are bound to repeat it.

    • @rickybobbyracing9106
      @rickybobbyracing9106 4 роки тому +3

      I'm in the US and can't wait. Love America, but the imperial system is just a hassle. It's time for us to convert.

  • @raycodes7393
    @raycodes7393 6 років тому +57

    6:19 will forever stay in my heart.

    • @asquaregarden
      @asquaregarden 4 роки тому +4

      I read the comment before and thought I was ready! Almost dropped my burger.Still laughing.

    • @joemulkerins5250
      @joemulkerins5250 4 роки тому +1

      😂

  • @truetech4158
    @truetech4158 6 років тому +22

    Lol, it was at this moment, that he realized, he fucked up.

  • @ojatro
    @ojatro 5 років тому +20

    Great presentation, including the final fuck up, which added a nice touch to the video. Keep it up!

  • @kymcainday6677
    @kymcainday6677 2 роки тому +2

    I actually knew it was gonna happen, even before you put the weights, just by looking at the clamp, and I was thinking "what is this guy thinking, it was obvious it wasn't gonna hold the weight".. But that was a great demo. At least no foot was harmed.

  • @facuclop
    @facuclop 6 років тому +25

    Thanks, you make me laugh too much in a moment that i not spectate. Nice video. Thanks for share.

  • @marcus_w0
    @marcus_w0 5 років тому +17

    Wow! That was a ... nice(!?) video? You gotta have a look at your autofocus - use a fixed focus instead. Greetings from Germany - you just got a new subscription

  • @diegogarrido6935
    @diegogarrido6935 5 років тому +8

    Awesome video! It would be interesting if u make some tests to analyse the Torque x RPM curve too

  • @andrewmagdaleno5417
    @andrewmagdaleno5417 5 років тому +2

    Loved the video!
    But yea, the autofocus was going crazy. I dont know how to fix that but i would love you to do more on motor reviews, part reviews and how to for diy projects! You earned another sub!

  • @zandervanderwatt3739
    @zandervanderwatt3739 2 роки тому

    Really great vid to demonstrate calculated concepts practically!

  • @tllvllp
    @tllvllp 5 років тому +2

    Haha, great video! And actually the first useful one that I've found on the topic, thanks!

  • @DIYMachines
    @DIYMachines 5 років тому

    Great video and information. Thank you.

  • @easy_engineering_drawing
    @easy_engineering_drawing 3 роки тому

    Was searching this. Got this and understood clearly. Appreciate the Great work. Thanks a ton.

  • @vipulfpv
    @vipulfpv Рік тому

    Thanks for the best video every thing clear in 5 min
    Understand thanks again

  • @JohnJTraston
    @JohnJTraston 6 місяців тому

    That camera focus is wild

  • @viyugunmj359
    @viyugunmj359 Рік тому

    Thank u for better practical explanation.

  • @KlauV
    @KlauV 5 років тому +5

    That was awesome man! Made me laugh so hard! And thanks for the info!

  • @Mike-lp4rs
    @Mike-lp4rs 3 роки тому

    6:18 sehr schön! xD
    Und direkt mal der Beweis, dass da einiges an Gewicht dran hängt.
    Und super Video!!

  • @travisgillespie2819
    @travisgillespie2819 5 років тому

    Thanks for the info. Great video. Loved your creativity + commentary 😂🤣😂

  • @joemulkerins5250
    @joemulkerins5250 4 роки тому

    😂 I f*n knew something was going to go! Was surprised at the motor power, well done, but my instincts told me something was guna happen. Funny one lads 😂

  • @mohamedghadi988
    @mohamedghadi988 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this presentation.

  • @CuddleStories
    @CuddleStories 5 років тому

    Bravo. Amazing explanation. Great for us beginners.

  • @flintindustries
    @flintindustries 3 роки тому

    This was great! Coming from a fellow beer fan lol. Earned yourself a sub!

  • @probrosp
    @probrosp 5 років тому +5

    Nice video. I'm wondering how bad the backlash of the stepper with the gearbox is? This would drastically influence for example the precision of a robotic joint. Were you able to feel any backlash or did you measure it?

  • @prof.onkarsalavi7143
    @prof.onkarsalavi7143 2 роки тому

    good explanation of motor torque capacity. just can u make a video for holding torque once we switch of the power supply. NEMA 17 n NEMA 23

  • @MattSeals
    @MattSeals 5 років тому

    Sustain the great job and generating the crowd!

  • @romanovlogger5847
    @romanovlogger5847 4 роки тому +1

    Interesting experiment. However It would be also useful to measure the current draw by the motor to better assess the ability to lift within the rated current.

  • @SivanandaSaiChilukuri
    @SivanandaSaiChilukuri 4 роки тому +1

    Maybe if you'd sat a bit closer to the camera, the autofocus and the sound (low volume) would have both improved.

    • @labstream4122
      @labstream4122  4 роки тому +1

      Hi, Thanks for your input! I am currently working on a better setup, so the next videos will be better :)

    • @SivanandaSaiChilukuri
      @SivanandaSaiChilukuri 4 роки тому +2

      @@labstream4122 👍🏼. I'm amazed you're still replying to comments on a two year old video. 😂

  • @TheCerberusInferno
    @TheCerberusInferno 4 роки тому

    Thanks a lot for this video ! its very helpful my friend i understand now

  • @exotime
    @exotime 2 роки тому

    Dude I almost choked on sushi , Twice , thanks to your dry ass humor. Well done.

  • @HebertTema
    @HebertTema 6 років тому +1

    Great video...informative

  • @naveenreddy1010
    @naveenreddy1010 4 роки тому

    Nice Presentation

  • @reamer59
    @reamer59 4 роки тому

    Nice work, thanks.

  • @mckirkus
    @mckirkus 5 років тому +3

    Do you even manual focus Bro? Seriously though, great concept.

  • @DiscoverRajivVlogs
    @DiscoverRajivVlogs 5 років тому +1

    06:16 😉 this is why proper arrangement is necessary.

  • @smilesmile787
    @smilesmile787 5 років тому +2

    Danke. where did you buy the 27:1 gearbox?

  • @szulewsk
    @szulewsk 2 роки тому

    ...slowly moving towards the metric system... inch by inch :-)

  • @Dallas1998
    @Dallas1998 2 роки тому

    thank you for the video

  • @shanukajothirathne4267
    @shanukajothirathne4267 3 роки тому

    good explanation...

  • @olusanyatodd4083
    @olusanyatodd4083 3 роки тому +2

    :( This video looked like what I was looking for but I'll never know cuz I cant hearrrrr

  • @masoudkuwait
    @masoudkuwait 4 роки тому

    Thank you. Really good vedio ⚘

  • @sharppixpencilart
    @sharppixpencilart 7 місяців тому

    Exactly experiment ❤

  • @mytechexplanations6923
    @mytechexplanations6923 5 років тому

    At the end, everything goes down...lol
    But very informative video...thanks.

  • @WarlockSRB
    @WarlockSRB 3 роки тому

    ...love the meme :) nice video...
    Looking into stepper motors to make my cars tailgate automatic lift/close, still deciding between Nema17/23...
    Would like to see how much torque can stepper produce over the shaft?

  • @jerryocrow1
    @jerryocrow1 4 роки тому

    Unanswered questions (1): Was the slippage due to mechanical failure of the motor shaft to lever connection? (2) Was the slippage due to the motor being unable to lift (e.g. failed to maintain lift)? (3) Was the motor able to "hold" the weight? (4) What demonstrates the failure of the motor? (5) how to calculate which motor to choose for which weight.

  • @mariogarabetov500
    @mariogarabetov500 3 роки тому

    Good video, but use manual focus on your camera

  • @calvinbarajas5144
    @calvinbarajas5144 5 років тому

    Sehr gut, vielen Dank!!

  • @danielmalinici4111
    @danielmalinici4111 4 роки тому

    Thank you for the movie, I was hopping to see if the nema 17 kan lift up to 4kg? The movie sound is to low, if this kan help you in the future :-).

    • @labstream4122
      @labstream4122  4 роки тому

      Hi, thanks a lot for your input! That depends on the NM it is able to produce. 0.4Nm of torque means it can move 4kg attached to a lever that is up to 1cm away from the shaft. However, for long-term operation it has to be checked how much radial load the motor can take. It might have to be decoupled from the load. I am currently looking for ideas for new videos. If you can provide more input on your specific usecase and its requirements, I can try to test it and make a video from it if you are interested?

  • @Ashishchabha
    @Ashishchabha 4 роки тому

    Interesting demonstration brother...

  • @fatherboard1252
    @fatherboard1252 3 роки тому

    The disclaimer at the end: No motors or microcontrollers has been harmed during taking of this movie... You made me laugh a lot.
    I am also curious what voltage did you supply to the driver for achieving this, is it 12v, 24v, 36 or something else?

  • @DomBurgess
    @DomBurgess 10 місяців тому

    Thanks! Though, please please please use a better camera, or at least a camera with better autofocus! :)

  • @obe22099
    @obe22099 2 роки тому

    6:20 That's my default brain setting. I'm more likey to break something than fix it.

  • @natalioramirez6240
    @natalioramirez6240 4 роки тому

    So, if he had placed the weights at 1cm from the shaft; will the motor have no problem lifting the weight?

  • @nusermane1076
    @nusermane1076 2 роки тому

    Thank you for this good video!!!
    I have a motor with a holding torque of 4Nm here, according to your calculations this should lift 40kg at 1cm, correct?

  • @Blendershick
    @Blendershick 3 роки тому

    thank you!

  • @sisfabricio
    @sisfabricio 5 років тому

    Thanks so much!

  • @Justsayin71
    @Justsayin71 2 роки тому

    you have to put your camera focus to manual but im sure you know that by now

  • @chethann1117
    @chethann1117 5 років тому

    MAXIMUM WEIGHT CAN IT LIFT
    PLEASE SUJEST ME TO USE A BEST STEPPER MOTAR FOR LIFT 30KG OF LOAD

  • @demonthought00
    @demonthought00 4 роки тому

    great vidio

  • @dhanushammayappan9419
    @dhanushammayappan9419 Рік тому

    thanks bro

  • @PeTi1201
    @PeTi1201 5 років тому

    I use a NEMA17 with 0,59Nm and when I mount a simple RC wheel the motor slips. No force to move my robot car :(
    I use the A4988 Driver. In so many projects the steppers looks so strong.

  • @bjornemmy
    @bjornemmy 4 роки тому

    Intresting video, I'm doing some research for a project and could use some help. I wanna use a stepper but the only way to get power to it would be a battery pack charge by solar or something like that. The torque of the 17 looks good but I might go for the 23 just to be sure... But I want to know... What kind of battery pack would I need to move 4 linear meters on full torque (worst case).

    • @labstream4122
      @labstream4122  4 роки тому

      Hi Bjorn, that sounds interesting! Could you write an email to me, I can look it up tomorrow?

  • @pablosqy
    @pablosqy 4 роки тому

    jajaja I think everybody lol at 6:19 thanks for the vid

  • @mm168mm8
    @mm168mm8 5 років тому

    hope your motor is fine ...

  • @Brazzquez
    @Brazzquez 2 роки тому

    I would like you to give me the code to control the motor with the joystick

  • @ravindukathriarachchie5851
    @ravindukathriarachchie5851 5 років тому

    Appreciate your video, I am making a crane using a stepper motor. It works up and down perfectly. But I cannot pause in a position in between with A4988 driver, will this driver will do the task

  • @imrekiss9534
    @imrekiss9534 3 роки тому

    It would be very good to know how much voltage was set in you power supply and how much current was set in your BL-TB6600-V1.2 driver?

    • @deSpeyer
      @deSpeyer 3 роки тому

      I do realize that, and I am already working on the next video, have also built a new and better contraption to test different motors, and will definitely use your feedback! If you can think of anything else that would be interesting please share and I will try my best to consider that in the next video!

    • @imrekiss9534
      @imrekiss9534 3 роки тому

      @@deSpeyer Thank you for your answer, I am really looking forward to watch the video.

  • @adi-dd4hz
    @adi-dd4hz 4 роки тому

    What stepper motor under 10$ will be good for robotic arm

  • @mohanrajselvaraj4831
    @mohanrajselvaraj4831 3 роки тому

    You made me laughing..while watching serious😁😁

  • @syberphish
    @syberphish 3 роки тому

    Moving towards the metric system....inch by inch. hahahahahahaha XD

  • @mr.47hitman19
    @mr.47hitman19 5 років тому

    Thank you

  • @groznyentertainment
    @groznyentertainment 3 роки тому

    The motor in your camera is acting up. Turn auto focus off and use manual

  • @pratikbhagat1731
    @pratikbhagat1731 Рік тому

    thanks for the testing video I need one help as i am unclear . I want to rotate the mechanical knob which need 5nm torque to rotate. which stepper motor i can use ? should i select the motor in accordance with the holding torque specification or something else. Kindly reply

  • @laserr10000000
    @laserr10000000 4 роки тому

    use manual focus or single servo

  • @udkr6944
    @udkr6944 4 роки тому

    The moment he fuck#d up was soo funny, good video mate, thank you mate

  • @proges
    @proges 4 роки тому

    I'm here because I'm asking myself a question, is it really necessary to have nema 23 for a CNC?
    taking into account that they only have to move an engine on axles made of aluminum ...
    can nema 17 have enough strength to mill brass, copper, aluminum etc in complete tranquility?

  • @sajivg3117
    @sajivg3117 7 місяців тому

    How did u make the lever that attaches to the shaft of the motor

  • @abdullahjhatial2614
    @abdullahjhatial2614 2 роки тому

    my stepper not lifting load having 10 cm link but roatate load if i place it on stepper shaft ? so why stepper is doing this

  • @anycatdessai
    @anycatdessai 2 роки тому

    Unexpected climax

  • @menan2336
    @menan2336 5 років тому +1

    Hi Sir, I was planning to build a DIY 3DOF full motion for my flight simulator, the weight payload is about 150-200kls. Would you suggest what type of gear motor that fit my plan? Your comments are really much appreciated. Thanks in advance :)

  • @pkasra
    @pkasra 4 роки тому

    The motor for camera focus is jealous for sure...

  • @harishrajamani4922
    @harishrajamani4922 5 років тому

    hi i need help , i have designed a door n weight is aprox 4Kg and i have installed 12.5kg stepper motor n its unable to open or close ????

  • @jeffreybeaver5677
    @jeffreybeaver5677 4 роки тому

    Fuck I actually jumped when the rig fell 😅

  • @kyle_vr
    @kyle_vr 4 роки тому +1

    Hi there, does the distance of the string from the shaft make a difference to how much the motor can lift? I am interested in using a servo motor with a torque rating of 25 kg-cm to lift a mass of 450g, 20cm away. Could this work with a string or not?
    Thanks.

    • @deSpeyer
      @deSpeyer 4 роки тому +1

      As long as it hangs parallel to gravity it does not make a difference, the force 'pulling' on the shaft will be the Same regardless of the length. The motor you proposed seems fit for your application! May I ask what you plan on building?

    • @kyle_vr
      @kyle_vr 4 роки тому +1

      @@deSpeyer Hi there, I'm trying to make a device to pull someone's fingers open as they cannot do this themselves. Using the servo as a sort of precise winch I guess.
      Would it work horizontally?

    • @deSpeyer
      @deSpeyer 4 роки тому +1

      @@kyle_vr yes, this should work. Sounds like a very cool and important project! If I can be of any further help let me know (I am the guy from labstream, accidentally posted with my private account)

    • @kyle_vr
      @kyle_vr 4 роки тому

      @@deSpeyer Ok, thanks!

  • @3DPrintedEngineer
    @3DPrintedEngineer 2 роки тому

    how much power does a typical nema 17 stepper motor require?

  • @dimitristripakis7364
    @dimitristripakis7364 3 роки тому

    Could the stepper motor be "inversed" into an input device ? Meaning you turn the motor manually and read the position (angle) from a computer program. (This could be useful to build an "input puppet", posed manually. Then the pose will be duplicated into a larger/stronger device).

    • @zedmeinhardt3404
      @zedmeinhardt3404 Рік тому

      For anyone reading this question 2 years later, you can just use potentiometers in the input joints to get analog readouts, run-through arduino and get your angle.

  • @kalyanchavan3430
    @kalyanchavan3430 6 років тому

    Good information
    i am building a linear slider with the help of Hybrid NEMA 17 will it be possible that it can pull 5 kg weight with the help of
    lead screw on linear slider????
    please guide me.

  • @garudakurt5166
    @garudakurt5166 2 роки тому

    is this capable of controlling this using arduino or raspberry pi microcontroller

  • @piecheeseboy2222
    @piecheeseboy2222 2 роки тому

    Hi, does anyone know where that datasheet he referenced is located?

  • @tommytomtomtomestini3894
    @tommytomtomtomestini3894 3 роки тому

    BRO! Do you even level the audio?

  • @SaeedAcronia
    @SaeedAcronia 4 роки тому

    Thanks but where do I get that black arm?

  • @Aerox90
    @Aerox90 4 роки тому

    I want to make an "elevator" at the end of my bed, that can lift a 60" LCD TV (I don't know the exact weight). But I don't want to spend more than $350~400 on motors... or miss the show while the TV is being lifted... xD
    Any suggestions? 🙂

    • @anupamchawaria939
      @anupamchawaria939 4 роки тому

      Get an electric linear actuator of desired stroke.That will be simple and easy.

    • @Amit-sp4qm
      @Amit-sp4qm 4 роки тому

      What height does the tv has to be lifted?
      One way is to make a scissor lift mechanism ..
      Also try car wiper or car window motor (used probably) .. or some other motor ..
      Also add end switches for safety ..

  • @quangvannguyen9476
    @quangvannguyen9476 Рік тому

    you use votage 24 V? Please sent me to know

  • @marcelorodriguez9601
    @marcelorodriguez9601 11 місяців тому

    🇺🇸🇦🇷🇮🇱 good test to know that I have to buy a bigger motor 👍

  • @vigilante_stark
    @vigilante_stark 4 роки тому

    Good channel. Pls use a mic

  • @rkaid7
    @rkaid7 6 років тому +1

    What kinda of secret tech is that nano? redaction attempts at 3:38 ?!!?!? ;)

    • @labstream4122
      @labstream4122  6 років тому

      Haha, I did not notice that during the final edit :) This is another failed attempt of Pinnacle at tracking an object to have text beside it :)

  • @davidsirmons
    @davidsirmons 5 років тому

    I'm looking for peak torque from start, which steppers don't do, but servos will. Do you have any suggestions or places where I might find one making at least 4500rpm and at least 1lb-ft of torque? Any higher numbers of either one are preferred, but that is the absolute lowest I can allow. Please let me know if you can.

  • @subhadas5922
    @subhadas5922 4 роки тому

    Sir please reply me, I'm making a college project, CNC EDM , a screw have to rotate very small rpm , and it's lifting a weight 15+ kg which is attached with the nut , which type stepper motor is preferable in low budget...

  • @TgpscGroup1
    @TgpscGroup1 3 роки тому

    6:18 that moment I got shocked

  • @AJ-mw4nb
    @AJ-mw4nb 4 роки тому

    I want to use two stepper motors to power a wheelchair for a friend. He weights 90kg. Do you think the shaft of these motors can handle that amount of weight? Also I'm thinking of going for a Nema 34 just to be safe with the min. torque required for the job.

    • @deSpeyer
      @deSpeyer 4 роки тому

      Most probably not. I'd suggest to put the axle with the weels in bearings which can hold the weight and drive this axle using a belt or a chain