Lidl Parkside Plunge Saw 2021 [video 455]
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- In this quick follow-on video I take a look at the 2021 #Lidl #Parkside PTSS 1200 C2 #PlungeSaw. Enjoy.
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For anyone doubting the build quality of these. We've had one in the shop for the past 2,5 years and it hasn't skipped a beat. It hasn't seen daily use, but it has had it's fair share of abuse, including a few timber framed buildings.
Same. The QC may bae a bit iffy sometimes, but they're good saws. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop No, they're not perfect, but it pays for itself on the first job. Hard to argue with that.
We fully expected it to fail at some point, especially after a few full days of full depth trenching cuts in fir, but it just goes if the blade is sharp.
I have the older model without the knive, out of the box it needed some tuning, blade not square to base and not 90 or 45 degree, minor adjustments and it is ok, the biggest problem is the wobble , if you loose the pivot point and fit on both sides shims, in my case 0.15 mm and the wobble was almost gone, with a good blade and a brand bearing it performs just like a Makita for example. And if you realy love your Parkside or other entry level saw you must add a softstart module for sure.
@@xinixxagnix201 overkill bro
@@superherobeatdown lol for 20 euro extra a good saw, a very good saw ;)
I also bought one this morning , having never used one before I'll be going over your videos later on tonight.
Great review. You know what I did? I trimmed it, so it fits a Makita guide rail. I used my table saw on the plunge saw and trimmed just a kerf-size off. I used a general purpose cmt blade, so it was 3.2 mm. Quite a lot. Almost to the button. But it doesn't matter, since it runs perfectly. It's not my idea, I saw it in a youtube video.
I had to grab a blade on the fly for my ts55, could only get a 2.2mm as it was right at the end of the day and finishing the job off. I actually took my riving knife off so I could use the blade on my saw. Wasn’t until seeing this vid that I’ve just remembered I have never refitted it. That was about a year ago !
Good video Peter. ‘Next week Peter makes a simple but very large display cabinet for the biggest Tracksaw collection in the WORLD’ (said in Clarkson style)
Thanks Norman! And you won’t believe what happens next.... 😂👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Hahaha well played. "Peter bought another track saw, then THIS happened" :D Also, not in the world had I expected Lidl to put a riving knife to their saw. My 4x the price Makita does not have one. Then again, it has downsides and I don't need it, so... optional would propably be ideal, but isn't optional always ideal.
...and if only the tracks were compatible, he'd have a new mode of transport!
@10MinuteWorkshop can you confirm the size of the hex bolt that holds the blade, and that it's a normal threaded bolt? Mine's completely stripped so I have to drill it out and need to buy a replacement.
Another useful video. One other benefit to a riving knife is found when you cut narrow strips, and want to keep the offcut, as in cutting for a woodstrip canoe. Without a riving knife, the strips wobble into the back of the blade, leaving a rough surface. A riving knife leaves them clean and smooth.
I've used my TS55 to cut sheets on 2 trestles many times and many times I've been very grateful for the riving knife
I have a Parkside saw, it has been in use for 4 years,
I use the evolution rail, use it complete my self build house, no issues.
Used for hundreds of hours. I did change the bade tooth size immediately for hard woods.
I bought mine today after a long wait. As a power tool user of 60 years I cannot fault it. And why this pre occupation with whose tracks it will fit. The tracks supplied are readily available and excellent. The most important matter is the correct setting up procedures on saw benches, Bandsaw and planers and I suggest watching Craig Steel on Bandsaw at Axminster Power Tools as an example. Amazingly I have one niggle. The instructions have omitted the instructions do not mention the correct procedures for aligning the cam type followers on the machine which follow the track. They also do not mention the Allen screws which secure them, nor do they provide an Allen key to fit them. If these are correctly aligned the blade will run exactly parallel with the edge of the track and improve the finish of the cut and possibly even reduce the chance of kickback. With regard to the blade I never use blades with less than 48 teeth on saw benches or mitre saws but it is essential if you change the blade to remain with the same thickness blade and the last blades I bought came from Parkside and they are excellent. I bought 6 at 4 pounds each. They are as good as blades which cost me 50 pounds.
It’s an obsession brought about by the endless questions from viewers. 👍 And all the set-up is included in the tracksaw workshop series of videos. 👍👍
I have had the lidl one for a couple of years now. It is a very useful tool for breaking down sheet goods. I just used it today as a matter of fact to make panels to line the walls of my daughter's Wendy House.
Wow you're spoiling us this week.
I dunno Dafydd - I skip a week, then end up putting out two vids over a weekend, lol! 👍
I’ve just bought one of these on Saturday, I was all set to buy the Mac Allister saw after watching your previous video, that was until Lidl opened a new store on the 29th of July just over 2 miles away… a Leaflet dropped through the door as I was about to leave for screwfix (31st of July) it had a bunch of “grand opening deals” one of which was for one day only.. the plunge saw was £34.99 😯 I’ve never moved so fast..
as I’ve never used a plunge saw before but find I need one for a project, this will be ideal to learn with. I’ll be watching your other videos shortly
Bargain! 👍👍
Looks almost identical to an entry level track saw sold here is the US at Menards for $200US. I’m pretty happy with mine.
Yes for price no one can beat lidl
As it seems difficult to get tracks from the manufacturer direct at the moment (apparently they were available very reasonably priced, even including shipping from Germany but have been unavailable for a good while now), I thought I'd say that the Draper tracks (available on Amazon) seem to be identical to the Parkside ones, and I'm pretty sure the Lumber Jack and Excel (difficult to source atm as well) are as well.
Thanks, yes - the additional rails for all the Einhell-pattern saws - Parkside, Lumberjack, Excel, Rutlands etc… - have always been a bit of a challenge, especially as you can’t use the more common Makita-pattern rails. Wasn’t aware of the Draoer rails, thanks. The new Evolution G2 rails - video out later today - are the better option though. 👍
i bought this saw yesterday. here in ireland, they have only just been put on sale (2021/07/15). what a great saw. saw and two 700mm tracks for €90.
Great value! 👍
Least I know to buy the cordless macalister now cheers bud
Peter, I have filed my base plate on mine so it runs on my Triton track. Very easy to use, just a small bevel does the job.
Good to know, thanks! I think I’d be more inclined to take the lip off the rail, but whatever works! 👍👍
Thanks, Great video
I bought the Parkside Plunge Saw last week on an impulse, always fancied a plunge saw, then saw (pun intended) this in Lidl for £75 quid. Then the add-on urge starts, the want for a longer rail, the want for clamps. So short story long, I purchased a set of Evolution ST2800 rails with 2x clamps and a storage bag included from Screwfix. I didn't like parting with £85 quid as it was more than the saw, but I did want the option to rip an 8ft. sheet in one pass without the need to move the track along. I have to say that these tracks are superb quality and well worth the buy. They break down to 2x 1400mm. rails, so now I have the option to use one of the rails that came with the saw as a 700mm. rail, one of the new rails for 1400mm, or both for 2800mm. I've not tried to see if both sets are compatible to join together as I see no real need if working with 8 x 4 sheet material. The only disappointment was with the set of clamps, they are not of the best construction, but they will do the job, they are after all just for nipping the track down, not gluing up 4x2 timber. One other good point, the track is joined by 2 joining bars in parallel grooves. this will hold the track very firm at the joint without fear of it opening at the joint into a dogleg. As you can probably tell, I am very impressed now with the setup and newfound versatility.
I finally got it from our local Lidl store. Can't wait to find a project for it. Will be looking into 1400mm single piece rails tho.
re: Evolution ST1400 guide rail. I ordered a set of these on 28th May and have been informed by Amazon that they are arriving tomorrow 7th June. Tracking shows them originating in Italy.
Good to know thanks! 👍
I got sent replacement evo rails that arrived end of May but they did take 2 months to come. I damaged the rail slightly because the 2 rails were never cut square on the join and I forced the saw through join which wasn’t square it jumped out and damaged the rail. I sent evo some photos and they sent the new 1400 rails to me. Good company to deal with to be fair. Did you have any issue with unsquare joints on the rails?
@@whenshovelswereshovels3068 I had the same. Ends not cut square on the 1400 rails. A small error makes a big difference over 2800mm! Couldn’t wait for a replacement - wondered about using the mitre saw to square them up but settled for a file and patience!
@@mikerussell6469 ye mate exact trouble I had and I was cutting full sheet of wet wall at the time! I then put my 2 metre level along the side of the joined rails and realised how off the square they were. I do now have 2 sets of rails which is great but will have to file all of them square like you said.
Excellent video! Thanks for taking the time queue up and then share your 'out of the box' experience. You must be seeing tracksaws in your sleep!
Yep! 😆 👍👍
Great, quick review... going to watch more 👍
I must admit, when I was in Lidl today and saw it did indeed have a riving knife I picked one up to replace my older one.
Even if it doesnt do much at least I'm getting a fresh 3 year warranty!
Yep - hard to argue with that - and a spare saw - for £70! 👍
U could make rails to suit urself ,these saws are good for what u would be doing
I have a 2 lidl saws (sorry 3) and they all do what it says on the tin. I am not a proessional user only as a diy capacity but i have no complaints at all.
I have both a Mafell and a Lidl tracksaw, which I use for rough work. The problem I have is that the blade on the Lidl saw has seized solid and cannot be replaced. Nightmare...other than that it has performed ok..
That saw fits on the evolution tracks and they fit together with the Parkside ones too.
Oh too early lol
I like my Makita simply because I can reverse the blade arbor bushing, and use a cheaper, more widely available 5/8" bore thin kerf blade, as opposed to a metric blade.
Is it easy enough to do and what are there advantages in using the 5/8" bore blades?
Interested
I'm going to buy this. You are a nice guy 👍
Genuinely true. Straight forward and talking good man. Peace and love to you, your family and channel 👍
Thank you. Same to you too! 🙌
Here in Belgium it had the riving knife in 2020. The price was a little higher than yours in the UK.
PTSS 1200 C2 was available for quite some time, but only in selected markets.
@@ciptrofin I thought so . Ik have this one for almost a year.
You should revisit this no that the Mac Allister is £135!!! Lidl currently on sale in stores at £74
Thanks to the excellent reviews and guides on this channel I've finally taken the plunge ( ha! ) and bought a Lidl Parkside track saw. I paid £79.99 but the cheap Mac Allister equivalent now seems to be priced at £135 which is quite a difference. I also bought a set of 3 blades ( 36 / 48 / 60 tooth ) from Saxton Blades for £30. I've only done a few test cuts in some glued up pine panels ( 25mm thick ) and the 48 tooth blade cuts very cleanly. My only gripe is that because the replacement blades are thinner ( 2mm ) then the riving knife has a tendency to just bump the side of the cut at the start. It's not serious but I'll need to see if there's any adjustment at all.
Thanks Peter 👍 I’ll stick with my festool TS 55 👍👍👍👍
Bad day today, the riving knife did not retract properly during a plunge cut, which sparked a kickback that badly damaged the material I was working on. After the incident, I removed the whole riving knife mechanism, no biggie. So I absolutely recommend doing this prior to your first plunge cut, before wasting material worth more than the saw itself (like I did today)
Luckily Lidl have just moved to town and one of the special offers was 2021 Plunge saw for £29.99!! Happy Bunny
Result! 🙌👍
Hello there Peter. I'm glad you got the new version with the Rivingknife this time in the UK. I think the Problem with the odd shape of the guiderails has something to do with Patents. If they don't add something to the rail they end up with an original festoolpatern or at least something which might lead to court. And i also think thats an reason why makita has those antitippinglip on their rails. It's not only because of the antitipfunction of their saw but also because they had to add something to make a difference to festool. Otherwise they would need a liscense from festool. The same goes for evolution that's why they have the two tslots faceing down. Great follow up though. Cheers 😉
Thanks Tobias! Yes, I’m sure patents come into it - but the Makita-pattern rail is widely copied, I’d be surprised if there were licence fees applied. 🤷♂️👍
You cannot use a patented design and simply add to it to make it license free. To get a patent for anything it has to have a feature that is not very obvious but needed a certain amount of grey matter to arrive at. Look at all the patent litigation in electronics. It is always about somebody using your design in a different machine. Look also at Gardena hose connectors. Since the patent has expired everybody uses the idea but has a house color applied to it. Would not have been possible if the patent was still valid (20 years maximum).
Yeah this was the only plausible answer i could think of. Otherwise i cannot figure out a reason for those odd shaped rails.
@@tobiasbromund5464 Perhaps they wanted to improve the design and/or make people buy only their parts. They have proably ordered a lot of tracks which would sit as shelve queens if a better alternative is available.
Festool patents on the rails are long expired. Makita anti tip is an additional feature, and for the Evolution ones the slots both face the bottom as it is easier to join them together this way and to be honest at the time we over looked the additional accessories that use the upturned slot. From the Design Project manager at Evolution :)
We are working on Gen 2 Tracks with some tweaks from customer feedback which will be available in the near future
The German word for the riving knife is Keil....it's literal meaning is 'wedge' and it's the same word as used for a ships' keel - so I think that's where the spacer wedge translation comes from, as on a saw it has a similar guiding/stabilizing function as a ships keel.
Ah, thanks! 👍👍
Not correct. "Keil" (pronounced kyle) is wedge and "Kiel" (pronounced keel) is keel. Two completely different words and also two completely different things in German. English speakers confuse the order of German diphtongs all the time. It is very different in the German language whether you have "ie" which is pronounced like "e" or whether you have "ei" which is pronounced like "Aye / I ". Fun fact: If an egg (Ei) has gone bad you say eeh ("iih").
The reason for the riving knife, which is a gap wedge in German ("Spaltkeil") ist to keep the two parts of a saw cut apart from each other. With green wood the sides of a cut tend to close in after the sawblade has made the initial cut. The wood tends to pinge the blade's end. If it clamps the teeth the rotation will push the workpiece forward (against the direction of the already made cut) and can really hurt you if you are standing there. Which is normally the case at a table saw. You push the sheet with your hands just to overcome the saw's cutting force. But when the pinge happens there will be an instantaneousely much larger force. It will slide the sheet out of your hands and throw it against you hip/belly whatever is in the way. So the riving knife needs to be an itty bit thicker than the teeth on the sawblade in oder to prevent the clamping action. Safety first!
But this should be known to everybody before he even operates a table saw.
With a plunge saw you are standing besides the sawcut and not in its projected extension. So the riving knife prevents the workpiece becoming a projectile. But you are not in its path. Might be helpful but not defusing as dangerous a situation as on a table saw.
Best Manfred from Germany
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@@user-sm3xq5ob5d In fact, on the Italian website it's called "cuneo" (= wedge).
Sometimes you folks over in Europe get all the cool new toys.
Haha, rarely - but sometimes! 😂👍
I agree completely the Mac Allister Plunge Saw is better, however the Lidl Parkside Plunge Saw does come with a 3 year guarantee, whereas the Mac Allister has only 1 year guarantee, maybe that might not put people off but it is a great guarantee from Lidl.
Yes I mentioned the warranty difference in Fridays video about the MacAllister - and it’s a 2 year warranty on the Big Mac, regardless of what Screwfix may are on their website. 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Ahhh, that's good to know because I would prefer the Big Mac, I have two cordless drills and an impact driver which are Mac Allisters, so thanks for letting me know, I assume its a manufacturers warranty for 2 years. To be honest through experience if a power took has a fault it usually manifests itself when they are new rather than 2 years down the line. Good to know and thanks.
Thanks for another fantastic review.
Great review Peter . And great channel . Your videos are invaluable for a lot of us who haven't used this kind of kit . Brilliant stuff ! Thanks
got it just used it yesterday first time, just work as expected.
Guys, the brand ‘Scheppach’ sells 1400mm guiderails that fit with the saw
They really don’t. Which Rail Works? Guiderail compatibility [video #403] - ua-cam.com/video/_HtpT_bK7zw/v-deo.html
Hello, Thanks for your video. I've got the old parkside Plunge saw and I wish you made some more test like about the dust collection or comparing cuts. Just wanted to point out that I've milled the edge of the rail I've bought (Orange Evolution or Triton longue Rail) and did use a router for the job. Also It fit the festool rail as well.
I’ve done many previous videos on all aspects of this saw - see the tracksaw workshop playlist for all tracksaw-related vids. 👍👍
First thing to fail on my Aldi saw was the riving knife loosed and caught on my work.
Bugger to dismantle and refit
Could'nt help but notice you have a new table saw? Your content is so useful for people starting out wanting entry level tools. Keep up the good work peter. Is there going to be any new projects soon?
Thanks! Tabke saw’s quite old now - must get around to using it sometime!
Thanks Peter
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You're spoiling us!
😆 You deserve it! 👍👍
Heh cheers mate just confirmed my purchase of the Macallister which arrived later today. Not yet tried it will do tomorrow and let you know how I got on as soon as I can. Thanks Peter.
Got mine!
Sadly taken it back, as it had a huge bump in the sole making it see-saw on the track. None left for exchange. Bah.
However I’m now sold on the track saw idea so will be picking something up, thanks for the video series Peter!
That’s a shame. Right thing to do though - it would never sit right in the track and would never cut consistently. 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Thank you Peter for this video. I just bought mine today in The Netherlands for also € 99,- and was pretty dissapointed to find out the base plate ( or sole...) is made out of plastic(!) Did the previous model had a metal one?
Thank you that was very useful as I'm looking at the best one to by even though I'm entry level I'd prefer to have a more universal decent one. 🙂
Hi Peter, I had the Aldi version for £50 after I watched your track saw series and it paid for itself in about 3hrs work lol such a great opportunity for people starting out now isn't it, with these machines being available.
Hey Karl. Yes, even though I wasn't a fan of the Aldi, you can't beat that kind of price - or the quality of cut! 👍
Careful if you intend to swap blades with branded saws such as bosh or using bosh blades ect. The bore sizes tend to be different on the cheaper saws so they can tie you in. Screwfix also do this with dewalt batteries they won't always fit another dewalt product bought from another retailer again to tie you in.
I have a lot plunge saws, many of them entry-level, and I’ve never come across a single one that wasn’t 160/165 x 20mm bore. 🤷♂️👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Maybe it changed in recent years, however, when I was working in the tool trade we got it a lot with tradespeople complaining about this issue.
Cheers Pete ....... looks like macalister it is mate 👍 thanks for going to the effort mste. Question were do you manage to store all the tracksaws you've purchased for this series 👍
Cheers Dan! They live under the bench for now - but I have plans! 😂👍
Hi Peter, just wanted to let you know this saw has only now become available from Lidl in The Netherlands. The spare rails are not available yet. Sent an email out already to acquire hem as soon as possible.
Thank you! Good to know!
Thanks for the videos, very useful! I tried to change the blade of my parkside plunge saw, but the hex bolt is completely stripped. I'm correct that it's a normal right hand thread bolt right? Do you know the size of the bolt so I can order a replacement as I drill out the stripped one, which seems like my only option left unfortunately. @10MinuteWorkshop
Just nipped out and bought one... Let the games begin.
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Just looking at blade replacement and came across 'Hook angle' . It seems a negative Hook angle is preferred for Plung Saws, which pushes the price up. Is this something, in your experince, that is worth considering?
Just “discovered” your channel. Great content!
I’m waiting since 2019 for Lidl having a track saw for sale (Portuguese stores).
Thanks, and welcome! 👍👍
thanks for posting these Peter. I was wondering whether I should "upgrade" or not but my current parkside one is still chugging along (touch wood).
Yes, I probably should have said; nothing here to upgrade for IMHO. 👍👍
Am I right in thinking that if it weren't for that little anti tip bit sticking out, the parkside would fit on a makita track? If so then I don't think it would be terribly difficult to remove that bit of the track with a router or table saw.
Or a plunge saw, if you had one... 🤔
@@10MinuteWorkshop 😂
Is anyone else annoyed by the box shape? It's as if it's telling you: throw me away after unpacking! I'd rather they sold it in two boxes - better yet, as two separate products: that way, if you chose to go for a longer track you could or you could just buy an alternative track etc.
Cut off the weird part, and added some duct tape so it stays in one place a bit longer, and now it "has" a box :)
Stick it in a stackable and hang the rails on the wall
Thanks for that and the Friday review as currently thinking about getting a plunge saw as the wife wants me to make some wardrobes. Currently have a £50 BQ voucher which means being able to get the MacAllister for 50.
Identical to the Draper (no riving knife).
Doesn’t the riiving knife get in the way if you want to cut out a worktop for a sink?, Sorry I see someone else asked , and you explained it was sprung, thanks for the info!
I can't handle this Peter. No vid friday before last then boom boom shake the room one friday one sunday. I now don't know who I am or what my name is... thanks Peter.
Me neither! 😂👍👍
Good review thanks for your video 👍👍
I kept putting off buying one, but when Lidl suddenly offered them at half price (59Euro) I could resist no more and bought one.
How does the evolution rail perform on the parkside plunge saw and the makita circular saw?
Nipped by my local LIDL today (Monday) just to take a closer look on the off chance they had any left, there were still 3 of them sitting on the shelf. I wonder how long they will last out
Not long! 👍
Available from the 28th August 2022. Will you be reviewing please Mr M ?
I’ll take a look, but it’ll depend on what’s changed from last year. 👍
@Peter Millard The 2022 version that I've just picked up this morning is a PTSS 1200 D2 (rather than C2), can't see any obvious differences at first glance, just a tenner dearer 😂
Awesome video :)! thanks. Wonder if the Triton TTS48TCG fits on this since the riving knife looks pretty thick.
Had me worried for a minute there having just bought the Mac Allister saw 😂
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So I have this saw and had to Dremel out the screw holding the blade. Doing so damaged also the outer flange / arbor washer. Does someone know where to get a replacement ? Or is there another alternative ?
Hi Peter, recently bought an excel plunge saw as my Makita broke down past repair. On another UA-cam video from another Chanel it mentioned it was compatible with a Makita rail but it's not. Do you know what tracks are compatible? It looks similar to a parkside base. Please let me know . Thank you
It's a big issue with this pattern of saw - Einhell, parkside, Excel, Lumberjack etc... You best bet is the new G2 guiderails from evolution - I've just done a video about them 'new saw new tracks' Great value!👍
Rails are no longer available
unfortunately you can no longer buy spares from kompernass as due to brexit they will no longer ship to UK now
It feels like Groundhog day... till all the entry level plunge saws are covered in complete details you'll be condemned to publish new videos 😁
Doesn't it though! 😂 👍
At the moment the Lidl Track is ok but, should I need to buy a Makita Track for its accessories, could I not just cut the edge from the Parkside Tracksaw base to make it fit? That shouldn't effect its operation
You could, it it’s much easier to trim the silly lip off the Makita track. See How to Trim a GuideRail - and why you’d want to! [video 468]
ua-cam.com/video/QqTJ4SrRD1M/v-deo.html
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I have Makita’s plunge saw. No riving knife.
Me too. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Makita vs Festool review? Think the Makita hits the price point for "treat yourself" DIYers
@@manceconomist not at all. Makita and festool are equal in every way, makita has features that the festool hasn't and vice versa. Obviously the makita is £100/£200 cheaper and if you're going battery then it's makita, cos how many people are on the festool platform for everything 🤣
No, I was thinking more 'Used quality saw vs new mid-range saw' kind of thing. 🤔
We don’t have Aldi/Lidl here in the US so these sort of bargains are beyond us. I’ve seen Paul Sellers do a Aldi/Lidl chisel set too. I wonder if there’s an opportunity for you to do a ‘Middle Aisle Cabinetry’ video where you *only* use tools you got from Aldi/Lidl?
Thanks Frank. Interesting idea, actually, a ‘middle of Lidl’ workshop exclusive! I’ll give it some thought, see what I can come up with. 👍👍
Wonder if Lidl are too tight to sponsor it.... Worth an email Peter
i got one this morning :)
Anyone in the EU can get an extra set of rails delivered for €15.99. I don't know about the uk
Costs a little bit more, but yes the Parkside rails are available - link in description. 👍
Peter feel cheated 3.54 short on video 🤣🤣🤣🤣🍺🍺 keep them coming .
Fair. 😂😂👍👍🍻
Why is my wife also looking to this video? She doesn't woodworki... PETER! Button your shirt, it's to tempting for the ladies
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Kudos for acknowledging the error of your ways in uttering "almost unique" :-)
Hmm. Doing research into UK exporters to Japan I wanted to nail a common refrain from Japanese pov that Japan is unique so common attitudes in international business do not apply. Clocking up the returned questionnaires all ticking UNIQUE, my heart skipped a beat when I saw that one respondent had scribbled in, uninvited, 'But no more unique than anywhere else.' This called into question all my data for this question: how do I know that all the other people didn't have the same thing buzzing around in their mind... but just wanted to get the task over with? (A problem that both my supervisor and examiner were blind to: they stupidly suggested either I scrap this response or change it to NOT UNIQUE, cos that's what his response amounts to. Right...)
Hi is this good for cutting 40mm laminated chipboard kitchen worktops?
It'll do it, but you'll want to change the stock blade for something better, and considering the price of worktops, I'd invest in a better saw, personally.
I just bought the latest version for €99 today in Ireland, the PTSS 1200 D2, I wonder what the differences are in the latest revision? I haven't used it yet but it certainly looks impressive and feels like good quality.
From the photos I've seen it looks identical to the 2021 model, to the extent that it wasn't worth me picking one up to test. 👍 Solid little saw, though the usual caveats re quality control (you're it) apply with all these supermarket saws, of course.
Dear Peter, would the makita plunge saw fit on the Parkside rail? I am a bit put in off by the price of the makita rail. Groetjes uit Amsterdam.
I just checked this morning and yes it will, no problem. I think there was a retailer somewhere in the Netherlands that did the Parkside pattern rails in 1400mm lengths as well! 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop phew. That is great to hear. Thanks for looking this up for me!
I picked one up today, I was going to contact you about the riving knife based on your last video but turns out you're already on it! Would you still recommend the Triton blade? I've seen a fair few iffy reviews, mostly people cutting laminate which obviously dulls blades quickly but I do have some kitchen counter to fit soon.
Yes, the Triton is a great budget blade at around £10, but other blades are available at higher prices if you’re prepared to spend more, of course. 👍
Does the riving knife not get in the way if you're plunging through a kitchen worktop to try to cut out a sink hole? Can you do a plunge cut with it?
It’s sprung
Peter ,do you know the difference between the Makita and the festool saw there's something the Makita does and the festool doesn't ,i only wish i would have bought the cordless Makita instead of the corded ,but that parkside does look nice ,wouldnt feel bad letting a crew use it before paying high dollar for the other guys
Thanks Syd. I’ve had a Makita for a while, and the only thing I can think of is the anti-tipping baseplate that latches onto the extra lip the Makita rail has. I’m not a fan of that feature generally, but it’s a decent saw. 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop score cutting before making your cut ,makes for a cleaner finish cuts
Hi Peter love watching your channel. I got two 1.4 evolution tracks today for my parkside saw its very tippy on both evolution tracks but perfect on the parkside rails did you find this. In the video it looks like there a perfect fit. Is there any advice you can give as it took 3 weeks to arrive 😭
Reply just added to your other post Roy. 👍
Anyone know if the £13.63 for extra Parkside rail is for a single or a set of two? Worth to get as spare rails for other plunge saws e.g. to work with MacAllister ones? I'm thinking maybe have different set of rails to go with a different blade set...
I believe it's for a pair of 700mm rails, just like the ones supplied. 👍
It's crazy to see a 1:1 copy of the Festool, aren't there laws to prevent that?
1/ It isn’t a 1:1 copy of the Festool. 2/ Festool’s principal patent on the plunge saw expired in ~2006. 3/ it took DeWalt and Makita 3 years to come up with their versions of the saw - are they copying too? 4/. Mafell, Bosch, Metabo, Triton, Titan, Lumberjack, Excel, Erbauer, Draper, Scheppach, MacAllister, Einhell, all sell lookalike saws here in the UK, and there are many other budget brands available globally, all of them likely out of the same factories in the Far East. 👍
Do you think would it be worth the extra money to but the triton tracksaw or the parkside? Thanks
Tricky one tbh. Parkside is a great price, but as noted here won’t work out of the box with the most common pattern of additional guide rails. The Triton is quite a lot more money, but is essentially a dead ringer for the Titan/MacAllister but with soft start and a slightly bigger motor, and has Makita-pattern rails as standard. If spare parts availability is important to you then the Triton’s the winner, but it’s not a clear cut decision, I’m afraid. In terms of quality of cut and general usability I’d say there’s not much real difference between them. 🤷♂️👍
It's good but I don't personally see a reason to upgrade. Cheers for the review. I suspect you will get lots of views.
No, indeed - and I should have made that point, thanks Benedict! 👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop I was tempted for doing a review though.... But I have just spent £500 on a milling machine and a £100 for a vice for it.
Quickie follow up video saw wot yer did there Peter
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6 saws left in the Bromley Burnt Ash Lane branch if it's any help to anybody.
We are posh in Bromley, we don't buy tools, we get a man in to do it for us hahaha
😂😂 And thanks for the info! 👍👍
@@10MinuteWorkshop Still 4 left as of this morning hahaha
I want a longer rail, where can u buy a longer one. Or what other brand has the same rail?
Which Rail Works? A guide to guiderail compatibility [video #403]
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Does the Parkside saw fit the Festool rail please?
Yes, it does, and any Makita-pattern rail. 👍