Sega Genesis Model 1 vs Model 2
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- I'm doing this review over because in my first review I was using a shotgun mic instead of a stereo mic. Also the AV cable for my Model 2 was defective.
In this video I will be reviewing the Sega Genesis Model 1 and the Model 2. The Genesis Model being used in this example is a VA3 revision which means its an early Genesis without any security feature. The Model 2 is an VA1 revision which is supposedly one of the "bad Genesis consoles". In this video you'll see that isn't entirely true.
While the Model 1 HD does sound better, it isn't going to be night and day better. Your really just getting better bass and cleaner highs with the model 1. But other then that the video quality from both is fine. The model 1 has no smoothing and good color, while the model 2 has some smoothing and slightly more contrasty color.
All Genesis Model 1 and 2 systems are fine. So long as you can play your Genesis games and have fun while doing so.
glad to see those consoles so clean and taken care of
Yup all my systems are totally taken apart and cleaned. I actually have to put new reset buttons in all my Genesis console's. Some are acting up again.
@@RobertNES816 I got one coming in the mail from Illinois and it is a little scratched and scuffed up, but for 20 usd I’m cool with it. So what sudoku you think for the scratches and scuffs?? I have some 5 , 6 , and 7k grit sandpaper, do you think that will do it? Also have access to a plethora of buffing apparatus.
I've taken my consoles apart and cleaned them, even as one suggested running the shell through the dishwasher and I can't get them to look that good, I honestly don't get it. Perhaps you should do videos on cleaning consoles then, I've tried EVERYTHING and get my Gens to look that good, even watching him touch them with his greasy fingertips ya wonder where he got new Genesis consoles from and how he had the nerve 1) to even open them and 2) to touch em with his greasy gummy fingers. Life just isn't fair.
Sound is better on the model 1.The sound effects and music is crisper.Not that it is terrible on the model 2.But there is a noticeable difference.Thanks for the test.
+Sergio V This was a VA1 Model 2 Genesis. I replaced this model with a VA0 Genesis (for its better Sony Video encoder) and noticed a pretty good amount of distortion with the VA0 revision. It used the same Co-Op Amps as this VA1 but the capacitor layout was different. Needless to say I regret swapping out my Model 2 for the other :( However I have actually replaced my VA0 Model 2 with a VA3. The preamp setup is completely different and actually sounds just as good as my Model 1! So I'm happy again lol.
Robert NES816 And you get the smaller compact form!
Sergio V I was always curious if model two is hooked up to a Sega CD...will it produce stereo ?
@@djf2471 the model 2 produces stereo by itself. Sega had a special AV cord you mailed away for or purchased separately. The model 2 usually came with a basic RF adapter or AV cable that only produced a mono signal.
I just bought a model 1 and I am enjoying it . And mine has the classic RF adapter .
Those Genesis are super clean they look brand new
IMO The model 1 was the best looking console of all time, even better when paired with a model 1 Sega CD, and I'm a Nintendo guy 😊
I agree with you lol. I have a model 1 SCD and love how awesome it looks paired with the Model 1 Genesis. Both consoles have a timeless look to them. This is also coming from a Nintendo fan lol.
Myron Gaines Sega always built the best looking systems.
@@leecroft7311 PS3
They sound pretty much the same to me. I like the design of the model 2 probably because it is what I had as a kid.
I mean they do sound similar. It's just the early model 2 console's didn't sound as clean as the newer VA3 and VA4 revisions.
Wow, both your consoles (especially the Model 1) look immaculate. Like the guy below, I think the Genesis/Mega Drive is the best lookin' console ever even though it may not even be in my top 5 favorites of all time.
G Ryen Nah Snes is the best looking (Euro and Jap snes) then MD/Gen. :) Imo the Ps1 is pretty sexyful too.
Sega always made the best looking systems. Truly beautiful examples of the Godly MegaDrive/Genesis shown in this video. And you just can't beat that unique sound of this system, ear heaven.
The launch white Dreamcast takes the cake, easily. It was the last unique, beautiful, fun and whimsical looking non-nintendo console before the 2000's showed up with Sony & Microsoft's black & white sterile boxes.
model 1 is better looking design
The reason Hellfire plays faster and sounds better on the model 1 is it was programmed specifically for the chipset on the model 1. I had that game and even though I beat it with a Game GEnie back in the day the game still haunts my dreams.
Allot of games where designed when the model 1 was the only version of the Genesis, they all play fine. But I guess it would have something to do with the model 1 and 2 using slightly different chips.
@@RobertNES816 Hellfire specifically uses a bug in the original revisions of the genesis, with later models having that bug fixed, the sound is a bit off.
YOur consoles are so fucking well taken care of holy fuck.
I was a really picky collector lol. I was always buying cleaner and cleaner examples.
I like them both, nuff said. I'm no good with ultimatums.
Those are REALLY nice looking Genesisis.
What cable do you have plugged in the Model 1's Headphone Jack?
SonicPAJ Its a 3.5mm headphone jack to RCA style plugs. They're easy to find on Amazon.
Is that what gives it the "Superior" sound?
Nope its just a cable. What gives the older Model 1 consoles better audio was a cleaner audio amp. Sega really screwed up on newer Model 1 consoles and most model 2 consoles. They switched from a regular Preamp to an Operational Amplifier setup which used a very poorly designed circuit. In newer Model 2 consoles this was corrected and reversed back to a traditional Preamp setup.
I thought the same... clean and crisp!
Great video. I jumped back into Sega Genesis gaming with a Model 2 VA 1.8 that is modded with a triple bypass board and the results from the sound and video signals are outstanding. No jailbars, and Hellfire music plays correctly with either a rom fix or Retro-Bits 2020 re-release of the cart.
I remember back in 1993 around Christmas time Hills department store had Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis on display hooked up to little 13 inch color TVs, well first off we occasionally shopped Hills and would go there frequently with our parents! Anyways they had an old model 1 Genesis with sonic 1 in which I always used to play but the one week it was the model 2 with the same sonic 1 game and original red fronted 3 button controller which must've came with that model 1 that used to be there. Always wondered if an employee got a model 2 and didnt like it and switched it out with the model 1 that once was there never knew what happened to that one still a mystery to me! And honestly if I got a model 2 , and had a clean opportunity to switch for a model 1 and not got caught I would've done the same lol
I recall reading a long time back that the model 1 was able to play a slightly longer theme for one of the songs on Sonic.
I think the biggest difference with the audio is the rings in sonic 2. on the genesis 2 it was quieter and slightly muffled. Model 1 much louder and more crisp
Noticed that too…is there some filter to slightly
Lower the high frequencies?
awesome video! What did you oil the plastics with? The consoles look brand new! This was super helpful! I dont mind the kind of crunchy audio of the model 2 it sounds very sega to me ❤
It's amazing what that system can do for It's time. These things were ahead of their time And I'm sure they probably did not know how to push the hardware to its capability
My brother had model 1 of the sega genesis and sold it i used to play it quite a bit i preordered my sega genesis mini cant wait to have it
I'm going to get one to! I'm so happy Sega stepped up and made something themselves for once. No more At games junk.
Still can't compare to the OGs
@@dohc16vturbo4g63 you think?? I think so too. What about a Genesis 3, I got one free? Are they okay??
@@waltersobchak7275 I've never had one, but I heard that they suck compared to the originals, but is better than the newer ones. I'm sure the emulators are great for the average person, but for me personally, I grew up in the the era of the Genesis. Being able to handle the physical cartridges and playing on the original hardware is the only way to go. Not to mention full compatibility with all games from the Master System, 32X and CD with the appropriate attachments.
@@dohc16vturbo4g63 I got one of those everdrive carts and it played on the 3 okay. I have a 1 in the mail be here Monday. Was $20. It’s a little scuffed up but I’m thinking I got a lot of various grades sandpaper like 5, 6, 7k grit and buffing attachments. Think that will work??
That Genesis looks so shiny. Like it was just opened and then polished.
Thank you. I paid $6 for that Model 1 because the reset button was stuck down lol. When I got it, it was covered in dust and just a filthy mess. But as you can see it cleaned up really well and still works great to this day.
I grew up with a model 2 and I think the model 1 looks so much more badass.
Same here! When I was a kid I wanted a model 1 so badly. It just has that "look" to it ya know. Like it's just futuristic and yet perfectly fits into the 90's so well. As an adult I own a few and still like looking at the design. It always takes me back.
Same here
There's nothing too 90's about model 2. It was a very safe bland attempt design wise, but I love just how much smaller and compact it is, just like the SNES Jr and Top Loader NES compared to their original models. Yet a brand new out of the box 1989/model 1 'high definition graphics' Genesis took my breath away way back when. It still looks awesome to this day and is rocking that 'in your face' loud late 80's/early 90's gamer attitude. Back when consoles actually had character.
Yet I'm completely over all 3 versions/variants of the 3 button genny' controllers. The 6-button is definitely where it's at! Especially from Retro-Bit since it's brand spanking new and a perfect clone.
There is model 2 which sound quite as good as model 1 VA2-VA6, but it is quite rare. It has shorted motherboard.
You're talking about the VA3 and VA4 revisions of the model 2. They're not really rare, since this video I've had a few dozen pass through my hands haha. I currently own two VA3 systems since I like them better then the VA4 consoles. The VA4 is very cheaply made with very weak controller ports and thinner PCB.
looking forward to the nostalgia ill get actually holding a sega genesis controller hooked up to a sega genesis in person and playing sonic 2 again. Wow. takes me back to a much simpler time
Wonderful I just ordered a Model 2 on ebay power adapter and controller and av cables for 10 bucks free shipping. Cant wait to play some old classics. The model 1's are starting to become more expensive for some strange reason. I'm not sure why. Even console only costs like $60.
ArcadeEvolution Its because people are running out of systems to collect for. The Genesis Sega CD and 32x are really the last systems most people will collect for. Once resellers start to see a spike in Genesis sales and console sales they'll start to raise prices.
However the Model 1 and even early Model 1 consoles like mine are super easy to find, they were launch models so they sold the most.
Robert NES816 That is quite interesting. I been trying to find at least an affordable model 1 because of the higher video quality and audio quality as well. I'm still waiting for my Model 2 to arrive. But hey the genesis was an amazing console and one of the more successful consoles for Sega in general. But, once I find a cheap model one I will get on it in a heart beat. But yeah man the sega cd is just really hard to find a good one that works. 32x's are also becoming more scarce now. Then back in 2010. Back in 2010 it was selling for like $15- 20 bucks with the cables. Now its like 100+ sometimes 50 if you find a good deal
ArcadeEvolution Yeah it's what happens when people see an opportunity to cash in on a market. These systems aren't hard to find. If you search around you'll eventually find one cheap. Just wait and you'll get a Model 1 one cheap. Also the model 1 doesn't have the best video quality. It's actually kinda soft and has rainbow banding, Newer Model 1 systems with TMSS have better video and just as good audio.
The best Genesis is a VA4 model 2 . Those are hard to find because they were made from 1996 till 1997. Sega was pushing the Saturn and pretty much abandoned the Genesis at that time which was stupid on their part. But anyway the VA4 model 2 is technically the best Genesis since it has the best audio and video. After that any VA6 to VA6.8 Model 1 will be a close second.
Ah that is interesting. So where do you find this board revision model? Thanks for the advice and info as well! This is pretty cool game system! Its too bad I wasn't born around the time this console came out. I was playing this console when I was a kid but my dad only had 2 games.That led me to playing the NES a lot more my dad had a lot of games for it. Sonic 2 and Aladdin which are are amazing games. I wanted to explore the world of genesis. Like Truxton and Road Rash and other games.
ArcadeEvolution You just have to keep looking. They're hard to find since the VA3 and VA4 were both made around the time when the Saturn was launched so sales for the Genesis were slowing down. I found both at a flea market, I paid $20 for a complete setup and $10 for a loose console.
You just look at the under of the system and check to see if the metal shielding stops halfway through the vents. If they do then you have one of the good revisions.
VA3 has great sound and good video. VA4 has great sound and very good video. VA3 is the more common of the two.
I had model 2 back in 92.. I grew up outside the U. S and always thought the model 2 was an Asian/European model only.
My parents actually bought a model 2 for me from a Barnes and Noble back on '92.
I remember I wanted the same Model 1 my friend had, but the store rep told me the Model 2 was a superior version. I was bamboozled.
Best version of SSF2: The New Challengers, though, even if the sound sucks. haha.
It would better for direct comparsion if you player sonic 2 in model 2, then hooked the cartridge in model 1 and played right after for example.
From what I've gathered (at least with JP consoles), all Model 1s that have the serial port in the back are the ones that have the highest audio quality. (JP systems also had an equivalent "High Definition Graphics" branding thing on the front, which was later dropped just like the USA consoles. But it's not relevant in terms of audio quality.)
Japanese consoles also don't have the RF port, but that's not really relevant nowadays anyway.
Yup basically what I said in the video
Nice video there man, gotta love the ole Street Fighter
Yup! I have them all for Genesis and SNES. I need to play this stuff more often lol.
I got my original gen 1 and a gen 2. I love the 2 a bit more just cause it is smaller. I don't really get into all the debates about sound, chipsets, quality, etc. I played on channel 3 via coax/rf and it looked like crap my whole life hahah. I am just happy when I take them out and they power on :).
On most older TV's you wouldn't notice anything. Most TV's back in the day were mono with a fairly basic speaker. It's on a good TV is where you'll see the difference in video output or if you bothered hooking your console up to a good sound system is when the audio quality comes into play.
@@RobertNES816 yeah, I just got basic stuff at home, no good audio equipment or anything like that. I just like to play, brings back a lot of good memories. I just got my daughter into playing, she loves streets of rage ;).
@@londick88 That's all that matters man! Keep playing and keep the younger generations interested otherwise this stuff will just go away.
I think Sonic2 was the game I could tell the biggest difference between the two models. Thanks for the video. 👍
Utterly beautiful examples, just beautiful. I’d rather have these then the systems of today.
Good video on the sega 2
I appreciate having a sage 2
I don’t see any segas anymore and just got mine today 👍
Any recommendations for Silicone button membrane replacements for the 1989 Red accented 3-Button Genesis controller? I ordered a pair from Australia, since they're so hard to find, months back, but the buttons & D-pad still don't feel snappy enough compared to how they did brand new out of the box all those years ago.
Not the end of the world or anything, since i prefer to use Retro-Bit's 6-button clone controller. It's just the red accented 3 button is far more nostalgic and looks that much cooler.
@NeonPizza80s there used to be a seller on ebay that sold exact replacements but he's no longer selling them. He also blocked me when I returned the garbage he tried to replace them with.
i don't know about all of you but i like the audio distortion on sonic 2 it just feels right i just remember sitting with my brother playing sonic two always losing at casino zone act 1 good times
Sup Robert,
First things first love the quality of the video very nice. I have gotten into retro gaming and in search of Genesis console to play my games I have for it. I'm stuck between which Genesis to get. I will be going the RGB route of playing the Genesis on my Sony PVM 14M4U until I get me a XRGB Framemister. Could you enlighten me on which version to get and your favorite.
P.S I will be getting a Sega CD as well.
+Kelly Greenidge The video quality of the Model 2 Genesis is actually a little better then the Model 1. Also since your getting a Sega CD then you don't really have to worry about the sound quality too much as long as you use the stereo output on the Sega CD instead of the Genesis.
So to answer your question I'd go with a Model 2 Genesis (Dime a dozen, very easy to find) and a model 2 Sega CD.
I personally like the Model 1 Genesis and Model 1 Sega CD better from a cosmetic view. But they are harder to find. Also every Model 1 SCD you come across will need a new drive belt since they all dry rot from age. I know how to replace them. But if your not familiar with taking apart CD ROM drives, then its best to buy a model 2 SCD.
+Robert NES816 Would you consider selling one of your Genesis consoles? I am a big eBay buyer if you wanted to that route or we can do a Paypal hook up.
No sorry.
+Robert NES816 ok thank you.
No problem. I don't want anything to do with ebay when it comes to buying or selling this stuff. I hate paying ebay prices and I don't like going off other peoples pics when it comes to buying from others. I like to hunt this stuff down and see it in person before buying.
Hi Robert, those Genesis' look in mint condition! What product/s did you use to get them that nice shiny black? Also on the high definition Genesis Mk1 model do you know whether it's only stereo sound that can be output from the headphone jack or is the output on the back capable of outputting stereo sound as well?
Just dish washing soap and warm to hot water and soft tooth brush. I then go over it with a little silicone spray I use a very small amount.
@@RobertNES816 Cheers! Will give that a go. I have a couple of Megadrive 1's so will get to work on them! Great video by the way. 👍🏼
That model 1 looks clean as hell. Mine’s all scuffed and scratched up but at least it works lol
When I was into collecting I had the benefit of choosing which consoles I wanted to buy. At the time these systems were a dime a dozen.
Can I use AV Cables instead of RF I havent had a hands on retro consoles.
Yup! If the system supported Composite then you sure can, You can also buy new cables for these systems to which is nice. On a side note the Model 1 Sega Master System and Genesis Model 1 and 2 supported RGB as well, The Saturn and "fat" SNES also supported RGB.
Robert NES816 alright thanks cus I was thinking of picking up a mega drive when i go to japan
If you can do component video, grab an HDRetroVision cable, you'll be glad you did.
wow your systems look great! how did you get them that clean?
Gotta have an eye for cosmetic flaws and scratches. Every system, controller and accessory I get looks really dirty. But underneath all the dirt and dust is a nice console waiting to be cleaned lol. I'm really picky when I look for stuff so I only pick the best I can find. I then take the whole system apart and clean the plastic parts with a soft tooth brush, dish washing soap and warm water. I then let the parts sit in front of a fan for a few hours and then blow out the screw holes with compressed air. The RF shields and circuit board I just blow off with compressed air, no more then 60 PSI.
@@RobertNES816 little bit of spray wax helps keep it looking new too
The only advantage to me on the Model 1 is the the reset button actually works. I owned two Model 2s and the reset buttons on both, broke within an hour, and they are near impossible to fix. If you're scrutinizing graphics and sound, you may as well just run Fusion.
But it's the same reset button lol. You just got lucky. I've had both where the button doesn't work. The model 1 in this video I got for $6 because it didn't work.....the reset button as stuck down 🤣
There are some multi game cartridges like the "dt-6403 18-in-one" . Will these play on a genuine sega genesis?
MrCauldron I honestly dont know.
ok thank you for answering
mrcauldron yes the multi game all chineese cartridge work fiiiine on all megadrives origenal version
Should've tested Streets of Rage 2, there's so much low end bass it distorts real nice on my model 2.
PS I'll take that pristine model 1 off your hands, I even got a sweet hd retrovision cable for it and a trinitron😉
Nah I'll never get another HD Model 1 for $6 ever again lol.
@@RobertNES816 Good decision I'll either buy another one or do a triple bypass ✌
Also was stated in the Ebay description that is was making a scratch noise. I think that it could possibly be faulty power supply. What do you think sir?
To me, the model 2 has much more bass which is makes it a better choice for me.
Your speakers sound great. I have been looking for a sound solution for my gaming setup. All of the consoles do only stereo at best. Any recommendations?
At the time I was using an older LG 300 watt soundbar. Now I'm using a JBL BAR 2.1 system (better base and mid-range). But the key it to use an inline audio filter to get rid of all the "electronic" noise these old systems produce. The SNES and NES aren't too bad. But the Genesis has allot of electrical noise that gets amplified greatly with modern audio equipment.
Robert NES816 Thanks for the tips!
Thanks! this is very helpful
I thought my Sega Genesis model 2 was broken as a kid so I just put away to fix it later, fast forward 25 years later and I found out I just needed a new RF switch and power adapter, sadly I don't know where to get the OEM ones.
NASIRUB1 The AC adapters rarely ever fail on the model 2 systems. Its always the console. The model 2 is known for having issues with the power socket coming loose on the board. The solder cracks from fatigue and causes the system not to power on.
Also FYI non OEM AC adapters will ruin the system since they're made with inferior components and also don't have any real quality control.
nasirub1 ebay you can find one
if you dont found ac adapter just open ac adapter and change risistor in side and voila it will work just like new
if need help contact me it will be with plz u r welcome
I still own my Sega Genesis 1st version.
I have heard the model 2 version has the best video quality supposedly but has to be from Japan. Any truth to this?
Nope
Its always a crap shoot. Japanese consoles can have the bad Samsung video encoder. But they will usually have a Fujitsu or Sony encoder. Samsung encoders have thin black vertical lines that show up in title title screens and on backgrounds with low detail. However if you get one of the newer model 2 consoles with the 3/4 board and Samsung encoder then you'll be fine. They fixed the thin vertical line issue with those boards.
@Dom LS1 your preaching to the choir here lol. I've had many VA4 and VA3 console's pass through me hands over the years. They're not as rare as everyone makes them out to be. Plus in my experience the VA3 systems are better built since they use better controller ports, a thicker PCB and have better power switches.
How you connected it to your monitor?
Most tvs still have composite jacks.
hellfire's music is running is slow motion on the 2.
I like the model 2 of the sega genesis more, and to you?
I prefer the Model 1 because it looks better to me, has better audio, and is the console all my friends had growing up. I remember the 90's very well and the Model 1 was a big part of that for me. So was the first version of the SNES and original Gameboy and Gameboy Pocket. Lots of hours spent playing on those consoles.
i kinda like the 2 look better more timeless
What kind of speakers do you have the Model 1 plugged into? I know you have something plugged into the front audio jack and you say that is how you take advantage of the superior audio, but what do you recommend using for the audio output?
It's just a 3.5mm to RCA adapter. I have that plugged into an audio noise filter and then into my sound bar.
I had the second one
Can cartridges play interchangeably Between the two models? If not, how can I tell if a cartridge is model 1 or 2? Thanks!
All Genesis cartridges are fully compatible with the Model 1 and 2
yes they are the same even chineese new cartridge multi game work fiiiiiiiiine
I have a bootleg model 2 and diffrence is that power button has a slide to if its on or off
I’m confused. Other videos comparing these models state model 2 hasn’t got composite out unlike model 1 which has RF and composite. Now you’re saying they both have composite out?
Look online and you'll see. UA-cam is full of people that don't know anything.
I'm thinking about buying a Genesis and I want to buy the one with the best game quality. I don't care about the music. should I buy a model 1 or a model 2?
Game Quality?
Robert NES816 cleanest graphics. you know looks the best during gameplay
Then buy a newer model 1 with out the HD Graphics logo or a Japanese Model 2 since you may have a better chance of getting one with a good video encoder.
All genesis output the same in RGB mode, but you need a scart 2 yuv converter too.
Get one with a Sony CX1645.
Model 2 the solder breaks down on the connection to the power supply on the board over time so that is something to consider.
Very true. But it's very easy to repair.
So the model 1 does not really have these problems? I’m looking to get a second genesis but I can’t decide to get a model one or two. The sound quality doesn’t really bother me
may favorite is mega drive 2 ( the Japanese)
Funny you say that. My favorite is the Japanese Model 1 MD lol. I love the graphics on the shell and blue reset button. It resembles a peace of HiFi equipment and it looks amazing with the Japanese Model 1 MCD.
Now if you have a "Genesis model 2", it's different ways to play Japanese games on your console. There is
A. Simply get it modified.
B. I think but not entirely too sure, you're able to use everdrive as some type of form of means to play japanese games simply by downloading emulated versions of those titles.
And the rest (if there are any alternatives) I'm left pretty clueless. Other than that there's always the simple (if you can find one somewhere) idea of getting a model 3. You can't use the add-ons, and I forget how good or bad the sounds are compared to model 1 and 2 but right off the bat you're able to play all of the games exclusively released in Japan for the Mega Drive on Majesco's version of the device.
Not sure where to ask this, and I've never seen anything mentioned about this subject anywhere (not even Google gives results for this):
Is it possible to mod a Model 2 Sega Genesis to get the Model 1 sound quality?
(Usually, Genesis 'mods' are for visuals, I've never heard about audio mods)
Look up Triple bypass. It's a daughter board you install that improves both video and audio quality for Genesis Model 2 and 3 boards regardless of board revisions.
@@RobertNES816 Omg, thank you so much for this quick reply! I'll check it out for sure! Ty!
I wasn’t around for these consoles but I just got my first sega genesis, model 2, been collecting for a good amount of time now and am thinking about getting an Atari 7800,
I never for into the Atari stuff. It never interested me.
Amo este vídeo seu, fabulous congratulations👊
Thank you!
Robert NES816 deu pra notar que no jogo hellfire no Genesis 1 vc jogou até mais empolgado que o segundo pela trilha sonora ser eletrizante, top demais teu vídeo irmão
Do you use some kind of polish on them because they really shine?
No I just clean them with dishwashing soap and water. Some consoles have a different plastic texture then others.
What were the release dates for the models? I'm having trouble finding that online
I wouldn't know to be honest. I know the va2 and 3 model 1's would've been around 1989 and the Model 2 VA1 through 1.8 possibly 1994. VA3 Model 2 would've been possibly 1994/5 and the VA4 model 2 possibly 1996. But I can't confirm these dates.
Also how are you playing the consoles through that modern TV you go there? Looks like a 20 something inch Vizio
32 inch vizio. I'm just using RCA cables.
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so basicly if i want the best sound get the model 1?
Any Model 1 except the one I described in the video. Look up VA7 Model 1 on Google. That's one to avoid.
Robert NES816 thanks :)
they both sound the same i like model 2 cause its smaller
***** well they clearly dont sound the same, you could tell even through youtubes poor audio quality the model 2 had some distortion going on and the model 1 didnt
To add what t103Ninja said if both consoles didn't sound different then people wouldn't go through the trouble of making large posts about the different board revisions or even creating websites devoted to the topic.
Great video
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Did you find the Golden Axe 2 game functional? I have yhe minigen and Golden Axe 2 on mine does not work:(
Worked fine for me. Could be your cartridge is dirty or there's something wrong with the cartridge or console.
@@RobertNES816 Man I really don't know. The cartridge is brand spanking new. All the other games work fine but this one, and its in my top 3 favorites
@@rpols22 seems like a software issue possibly. All the Genesis consoles works with every Golden Axe game from my knowledge and experience.
Model 1 all the way. Even back in the early 90's, Model 2 was far too bland looking, regardless of it's more appealing smaller and sleeker compact size. It's just a plain slab of black plastic that has zero late 80's/early 90's flare or character. Never liked the SNES Jr either. Still, i'd easily take both over the Genesis model 3! :P
Are you in KCMO is that were the 816 comes from?
Roof Repair Techs 816 is just short for 8 and 16 bit. My favorite era's of Video Games.
I have a sega genesis or megadrive model 1 and the sound is sharp ... half distorted ... is it normal? In this video the sound is impeccable, I remain doubt. Helpme please
Nostalgia, i still have second somewhere in house
i have a question. do i have to have the rf adaptor for both my model 1 and model 2 if im hooking them up to a 19in. sylvania flat screen
I've never used two RF adapters at the same time. I assume you can just plug one into the back of the other. But I've never tried it. Also why are you wasting time with RF Adapters when you can readily buy new Component cables for both the Model 1 and 2 Genesis consoles.
I was always curious if model two is hooked up to a Sega CD...will it produce stereo ?
Doug Fitch The model 2 can produce stereo with or without a SCD. You just need to buy an RCA cable for it, but the audio quality variay greatly depending on which revision you get.
Robert NES816 www.amazon.com/Genesis-Stereo-Av-cable-2/dp/B00002ST8L#immersive-view_1532487292475
I got the model 2. It's the one I grew up with.
How do your systems look that good? They look brand spanking new!
I take them apart to basic components and clean all the plastic parts in dish washing soap and warm water. I'm also really picky about the system I choose before I buy it. I like to buy really dusty systems that have no real cosmetic damage or issues, they usually clean up nice.
Both of these systems were dusty as hell but they were both like new and hardly used. I also got rid of that Model 2 Genesis and got myself a newer and believe it or not cleaner Model 2 with a 3/4 board that has the same sound quality as my model 1.
+Robert NES816 Hi , do you have video on your channel where you clean this sega console?
BORZZIKMAN Sadly no I don't. But that particular Genesis was in very good condition when I bought it, It was just covered with dust. You can have a look at my NES restoration video. Its basically the same procedure.
+Robert NES816 wil Genesis games NTSC US-CANADA work on my Japanese version Sega mega drive 1 NTSC Japan?
I wanna say yes only because I've played Japanese NTSC games on a US Sega CDX. I used a Game Genie as a pass through device to defeat the physical cartridge lockout.
I would say Castlevania: Bloodlines takes greater advantage of the sound hardware than Sonic 2, as 'Iron-Blue Intention' especially shows, but that's just my opinion.
What do you use to clean your genesis it's so shiny like factory new!
Glen Bojcuk They were both in good shape to start off with. I just took them both apart and cleaned the plastic in soap and water to get all the dust and dirt off.
Did you notice rainbow banding on either console? I get it pretty bad with my model 1.
That's an issue if you run composite directly into a flat screen TV. But with the up scaler I'm using it's hardly noticable.
@@RobertNES816 Thanks for the quick reply! I use composite on a crt and its pretty noticeable in some games like the waterfalls in sonic, but in others I can't notice it at all.
are you using crt tv? picture is quite nice
IPlay Gamez [HD] nope flat screen. That's a POS Vizio Razor LED TV. The picture was the only good thing about that TV lol.
Are the power adapters of versions 1 and 2 interchangeable?
Nope different plugs, voltages and amp ratings.
As for lag - it is monitor issue, not console, every LCD has input lag)) Buy old PVM if you are true retro gamer, games will look A LOT MORE beautiful with zero input lag. I have 4: 10, 14, 15 inch JVC and 20 inch Sony PVM :)
I was born in 86' and the model 2 smaller and slick design was the best....
Question, on the genesis model 2 underneath it, does it say made in China or Japan.
That one I think was Thailand or Taiwan I'm not sure.
I don't own that console anymore. I currently have two VA3 Model 2 consoles that are made in Japan though.
@@RobertNES816 if it’s made in Taiwan or China does that make it a clone? Is it only legitimate if it’s made in Japan?
@@belushibelushi3841 Sega made em in a few different countries so they're all legit. You can tell if it's a clone because it won't say Sega on it.
@@RobertNES816 Thank you so much!
I remember playing sonic 2 on my module 2 Sega genisis
Sonic 2 was the best one of the 3 games you chose for this video
it doesn't matter to me personally the model 2 still sounds satisfying and is smaller so it's my favorite model and is easier to connect to a 32x and a sega sc
sega cd I mean
I would have to agree with you. The Model 2 is easier to setup with those add-on's. But I personally don't have any interest in ever using or owning a 32x. So for me I just have to use one additional cable to use the Model 1 with the SCD. It's just is a standard 3ft auxiliary cable, The SCD needs it to mix the FM and CD audio from the SCD together. The Model 2 Genny does this internally.
Do they both play the same game cartridges
Same consoles just different hardware revisions.
Model 1 High def graphics FTW!!
Classic design!
@@RobertNES816 I feel that in most cases (Xbox 360 being a notable exception) the earliest models of consoles are the most robust. They're 30+ years old now, and as far as I know mine is all original caps. No noise or video artifacts, looks great on my even older Trinitron. I wouldn't be surprised if these things still work 50 years from now.
@@princeleo276 They most likely will. But I think the plastics and rubber will be the determining factors as time goes on.
Yo tengo el segundo modelo :3 excelente video saludos
Visuals look identical at least
Which model works best with the 32X/Sega CD/Sega Channel??
They're both the same. Model 1 just looks cooler and has better audio.
In recent years, I prefer model 1 over model 2 due to stereo sound.
The Model 2 has stereo aswell. You need to buy a video cable with left and right stereo out. Sega only provided a mono cable, but sold the stereo version separately.
@@RobertNES816 As a matter of fact, I do have the stereo A/V cable for the model 2 Genesis.
Same Dude Model 1 is the Best one to Pick Up and Own to go along to your (Or Anybody's) Collection
Wow, Hellfire didn't even sound like the same game, so much better on the Model 1
WOW THOSE ARE MINT
Have you ever heard of a Sega Genesis 2 having to warm up before it can be played?Mine does and I don’t know why😞😔😔😔😔😔😔
john D That's a sign of dried out caps. Or cracked solder joints.
Robert NES816 Is it a easy fix?Is it safe to use like this?Thanks🙂🙂🙂
john D I'd get it fixed or just find another model 2. They're a dime a dozen.