What's (Actually) Going On With NVIDIA?
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- Опубліковано 21 лют 2024
- a quick primer on the stock that everyone (and their mother) is talking about
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You don't ever truly quit marketing for Nvidia
@@CadoonTubedid you watch the video? If anything id be pulling stocks from nvidia because of the advice given. This wasnt a juice video at all.
The forever nvidia glazer
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I didn’t know Nvdia sold shovels man atrioc really helping me out
It’s like the hotel California
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I didn't really get this whole chip craze for a while but now I'm currently a designer at the TSMC FAB in Arizona and man the amount of shit the government lets us do to speed things along is insane. In any other industry I couldn't see inspectors letting half the shit we do slide. Really puts into perspective how important they view these plants.
yo this is interesting to me - do you have any specifics you'd be willing to share?
chinese spy @@atrioc
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Probably not a good idea to have this convo in youtube comments, in case NDA stuff comes up.
I would love to hear more about whatever you might covertly share with detective glizzler.
@@atriocnvda to the moon!!!!!!!!!!!thastwhat he have share nvda mooooon!!1!1
The fact that people in Congress can own stocks is the stupidest thing ever. It makes you wonder, especially if they are the ones to put laws on monopolization, they won't investigate the ones that make them money. Insider trading is a crime with years in federal prisons, yet the lawmakers get away scott-free. Am I seeing it wrong or is it just stupid?
If you think Nancy is doing good you should see what her husband Paul is raking in. Nancy has to disclose her trades but her husband doesn't, i'm sure what we see from her is hardly a fraction of what that duo is ultimately raking in. There's a whisper in the air and it's speaking French
Reality is you’re seeing it wrong. There is no way you’d be able to enforce a stock trade ban. They’d just have family members make trades for them instead, or people they trust, or private institutions.
@@YourBlackLocal "People will do things to avoid getting caught" really isn't an argument against making something illegal
@@ClikcerProductions Except that's not what I said. I said it's unenforceable, which makes making it illegal pointless and just gives them more incentive to hide information.
@@YourBlackLocal I see what you mean, but if they disclose what they own. They should be watched so they don't give any privileges or do something to make their stocks more profitable. When Microsoft bought Blizzard, it was a question whether or not that would be a monopoly. If all the owners of Microsoft stocks votes no, then it is profitable for them, but nobody else.
In 2011 I was taking a business class in highschool and we were "given" a fake $10,000 to invest in the market and we would track it over the semester. I randomly invested like $8,000 of it in Nvidia. That investment I believe would be worth over 1.5 million. Kind of depressing lol.
You suck 😂
Money makes money and a job barely makes you enough money to live.
So you had an extreme undiversified portofolio and got lucky probably got an A+ what a lousy school
@@alexfoley9103 It's so crazy to me that you're just assuming he got an A+ and using that shit that you just made up as evidence that his school is bad LMAO
@@alexfoley9103 this is the most delusional and assuming youtube comment i think i have ever seen. WHAT R U SO MAD AB???
NVIDIA is currently at $785, so it looks like those $1,300 options won’t hit. Pretty insane for people to think the stock would jump that much.
you just got to belive and your dreams will come true.
these options are also dirt cheap. The people who bought the 8xx weeklies got fucked however
@@kennstedas it can still hit 800 this week
i think it’s so funny that we’ve had all of this unimaginable growth and people still think “mmmm… yeah it’ll double” HUH????
@@incriptionI mean I guess. With the IV crush that has surely happened by now you could now put your money in, as they got very cheap as well.
It’s really interesting to see how Nvidia has transformed into an AI solutions company and become so vital to the stock market. The concentration of power and potential risks are definitely concerning.
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Was this comment written by AI?
@@koifish6305 Julias? kinda seems like it lo
Bot channel scam 😂
atrioc might legitimately be the most well rounded source of business news out there right now
He's using good diagrams, actually explaining terms, giving both credible and community-based opinions, gives background, understands the weight of the situation, and - to some degree - gives both sides of the situation. The fact you're right scared me at first (and while it still should scare me) it doesn't scare me as much because of how good of a job Atrioc does with these videos
Fr I basically found this guy through his blender vs pro video lmao and glad I did
@@noahsmethers9339plus he’s funny
@@LaSombraanew viewer lets go
He is a good entertainer who is also not stupid. It's a good mix.
I'm a software engineer so this all should be good news for me, but it also makes me sick to my stomach. What a wild fkn world we live in. Feels like we're teetering on the edge of collapse at any given time.
fr were looking at an age of dissinformation and deepfakes as this tech gets better
It's been like that for a while it feels like so we become desensitized to it
I hate Nvidia
Are aware that the CEO of nvidia said "Don't Teach Kids To Code"? He has every reason to say that AI will replace coding, and you have every reason to distrust him.
Atrioc really worked at twitch and got stock right before the Amazon acquisition then went to Nvidia right before the crypto/AI spike. I’m expecting offbrand to go public soon
what kinda midas it is? Get stock, leave and turn it to gold
Thanks for the heads up. I'm going to invest a few grand in Offbrand if and when it goes public
He’s no longer part of offbrand
TIL the web explosion was in 1929
Of course he would remember that.
i was trying to say "dotcom bubble AND 1929" aka the two examples of high mkt concentration, but my "AND" sounds like "IN" :(
I thought the same thing (but figure it was ‘and’ not ‘in’)
@@atriocdon’t worry buddy we know you said AND
@@atriocsure lil bro
Small clarification at 7:30 a single H100 costs 50,000 dollars and 3500 dollars to manufacture. What you're showing is the HGX system which costs ~250,000 dollars on the lowest end model (4x H100s) and ~1 million fully specced out (16x H100s). All HGX systems cost between 10,000-50,000 dollars to make on NVIDIA's side though
Atrioc gotta be one of the luckiest mf alive, twitch bought by Amazon then NVIDIA fucking mooning, his wetzles pretzels empire going to be crazy
1:58 Who could forget "the Dotcom Bubble of 1929"?
People started selling european tablecloth in mass.
A real polkadot commerce.
I heard that and was so confused 😂
Damn. I just got over my depression🥲
Outstanding move by the Big A by ending with 'See you guys next week' over 'See you guys Monday'
Wow, you made this video very quickly! I’m sure this will be a new benchmark for ALL future videos.
This a solid warning, in my opinion. Chance of this being worth north of all energy companies combined?? Feels slim to me. Solid stuff as always from big a
The thing that people forget, is NVidia are not the only people who make AI chips and they don't sprinkle some magic sauce that makes theirs better than all the others. They were simply early and ceased the opportunity to book their chip manufacturer TSMC at full capacity before their competitors, small issue is it is located in Taiwan and volatile at the moment due to natural disasters and a possible invasion from China. On top of that every single one of those Mag 7 companies have announced their own AI chips that are already in mature stages of R&D. There's no way NVidia will remain the sole victor in the AI race especially at a 1500% markup, though NVidia's market cap has seemingly been evaluated with that assumption.
With that I think people should be looking at a company that does manufacture their own chips, including for other chip designers, whose stock is at a low point currently due to their aggressive reinvestment in fabrication. And has close relations with IBM who've researched into novel AI chips boasting 10x increases over available solutions: Intel.
“The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent”
It's not worth it, because it's speculation what inflates the price. People buying shares because they expect is what will go up rather than believing a particular value is the correct one.
That’s incorrect. I work in ML and Nvidias advantage is in big parts due to cuda. They invested in this long before any of this ai stuff was relevant and have had a lot of time to make it rock solid. And they did. Meanwhile, AMDs competitor to cuda, ROCm is poorly documented and just a short time ago used to crash when running their own examples!
It’s slowly getting better and amd has recently made a push to improve it, but it’s difficult to catch up with almost 2 decades of development. NVIDIA buying out more capacity at tsmc makes their chips slightly better. But the software issues of their competitors is what makes them the only viable option. The only other company with a working chip + software stack is Google TPU, but you can’t buy those, you can only rent them and that’s not what Microsoft & co want to do.
@@tobiasjennerjahn8659 CUDA is not really an AI only technology. From what I understand of it, it's just a library that allows you to run more Nvidia GPU's more efficiently. But many important AI libraries like pyTorch use it as a dependency and this forces people, who don't want to do custom solutions to rely on NVIDIA GPUs. The problem is that CUDA itself is nothing utterly unique.
In fact there's already cracks in NVIDIA's dominance. Frontier, one the currently strongest super computers (was number one at the time of it's installation), doesn't use NVIDIA GPUs at all. Instead they use AMD - but Frontier is still intended to do AI work. They can do this because AMD has developed HIP/Hipify - which is a tool that can convert CUDA code that only works on Nvidia GPU's to Code that runs on both AMD and Nvidia. If Frontier is a success other Super Computers will surely follow it's example as their goal is scalability through parallelization and the best, cheapest GPU's will be chosen.
AAAAAA THE SONG FAINTLY PLAYING IN THE BACKGROUND THE ENTIRE INTRO AND 1:00 IS MY ALARM AA PLEASE EDITORS SPARE ME AND MY MINOR AGONY WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO TELL WHERE ITS COMING FROM AND HEARING THAT IN MY DREAMS
your alarm being Mario Strikers Charged sudden death OST is so sick
@@Airidit’s lost woods from ocarina of time, maybe strikers is playing before 1:00 but 1:00 is definitely lost woods
@@PercieGuthrieayyy one of my main alarms is from Ocarina of Time as well (mine is Zelda’s Lullaby from OOT). I use that, along with the the Grissini Project covers of Merry Go Round of Life (Howls Moving Castle) and Grandma (Nier).
Having lost woods as your alarm is kinda a crazy play
Suffer
you don’t have to sign into geforce experience anymore it’s all over
We've finally reached peak capitalism, Nortel would be proud 🥲
they literally can afford to be less predatory when it comes to gaming and turn that into profit
Maybe we'll get an affordable graphics card with more than fucking 4 GB VRAM
@@jackdren9974 nah, not that bro
@@jackdren9974 affordable is subjective. They already think they make affordable cards. At least now the lower tier cards are decent. The 20 series was really messed up.
At least you can get a 3060 or 4060 and they're quite good. Just made a pc for my daughter using a 3060ti and it works great for 1440p.
It's not like having a furnace like the 3080ti I have. My pc will raise the temp 5-10 degrees in my room depending on if it's cool enough to open a window.
It's not just nvidia though. Look at cpu prices too. They don't go to insane prices like gpus. Most cpus range from 200-400 which is about the cost of a lower tier gpu
Great video! Almost as great as the markup on the H 100.
2:05 that sounds similar to the thing that happened to Canada in the early 2000s with nortel
NVIDIA out here speedrunning in the dystopian science fiction any% category
It's only dystopian if you don't see the potential in its good outcomes.
@@Dragonfury3000 That sounds like a dystopian villain's defense.
@@Dragonfury3000 when was tunnel vision a good thing?
@@Dragonfury3000 Good outcomes only can happen if the bad outcomes don't come to pass. In the end, the only thing left will be the legacy of the bad, especially with this technology. Once you go down certain rabbit holes, so much can happen so fast that there will be nothing left to protect people that are vulnerable to it. We have seen the infancy of the tech, if these are the applications of the infancy than the maturity of it isn't looking great in some potentially catastrophic ways...
Honestly impressive how close this video was released after the upload of the vod
Atrioc boosting his Nvidia stock before the sell. Atrioc hands!
yea some pretty high potential for devastating losses
Exactly.
Everytime i hear about the stock market it just seems even more unstable and chaotic than the last time
that's because that's how the news works... for the most part the market is always very stable. if you're just investing in an index fund like VOO or SPY you're going to get like +8-10% a year more or less guaranteed, and even a horrible year would be a very small percentage loss.
I did research at virginia tech and virginia's govt is really pushing the "Virginia Alliance for Semiconductor Technology" hard. Just applied for a job with them and it seems pretty lucrative, the US really wants semiconductors to be made here.
Why invest in the shovel manufacturer when you can invest into the shovel part manufacturer
Wouldn’t it also depend on the margins of the businesses? I don’t think TSMC is making that much more profits despite Nvidia’s increased demand
@@joushua4428try like big A said the crazy margins are from nvidia who produces for 3000 and sells for 50k TSMC probably hasn’t seen a drastic growth in margins
because their income is already basically locked in because of how their booking works. i think you just don't understand how stocks work. they are not the value of the company, they are the perceived value. because people already are aware of the booking that's already factored into the value.
@@Squidmoto3 chill bro i wasnt being serious
When Tesla was pumping, everyone was loving it, and now it’s dumped from ATHs, nobody cares about it. Nvidia is no different!
big a im currently in my second year of electrical engineering and im planning on getting my masters. ive always wanted to try and snag a job at nvidia out of college and im wondering how your experience at the company was. were hours reasonable, were offices nice etc. anyway love the streams and keep up what youre doing glizzy goblin
yeah. It gets tough around launches. Insane work schedule. Other than that the pay/treatment is best in class.
@@atriocthe glizzler responds…
@@atrioc it’s wild where even when being genuine people sign off with “keep up what you’re doing glitzy goblin”
@@glowco.717he didn’t deny being a glizzy goblin!!!! Confirmed
yo, first year EE here
but looking to break into robotics instead, but idk im still on year 1
TIL I learned the Dotcom bubble was in 1929
Low key very good explanation and warning. Thanks my guy 18:50
What interests me is how the problem of small data is gonna be solved (if it can be). Fields like chemistry, biology, and material science frequently deal with issue of small data. If a breakthrough can happen that allows for any meaningful output gained from feeding in small data it would be insane for human progress as a whole. As it relates to this topic I feel like it would crush any company that is all in on the idea of big data.
Hey you guys remember the Nortel incident in Canada? When one company was expected to perpetually grow and the entire investment economy was built on that stock and it failed and tens of thousands of people lost all their retirement funds and houses and shit? Good times...
There is a slight difference in that Nortel, by the end, was a market manipulation company more than a production company. Their manufactured equipment didn't have nearly the margins that NVidia has.
Not saying they aren't overvalued. But for now, they do have the technological lead. If the price stays high while the competition catches up in tech, that's when you really have to worry.
@@Validole This is absolutely true, for sure. However I feel the chances of the market actually recognising the eventual narrowing of that lead and reflecting that through the market price is basically 0 lol. People are all aboard the hype train now and I think it's just gonna keep going until it crashes.
Wow the editing on this one is really good
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Wow what a flawless intro I’m sure he did that all in one take without messing up his NVIDIA fever joke
12:58 I thought that was a trouser box for cricket xd
Thanks for this informative video - subscribed
we're fucked
They didn't plan this in advance. CUDA was initially supposed to be for simulation.
The reason GPUs are better than CPUs for simulations and AI is the extreme parallelization, not Moores law.
Rasterization (game graphics) need a ton of parallel computing. So GPUs just happened to be good at that, so NVIDIA made CUDA so companies can build physics and other simulations and processing on their GPUs. (for example PhysX is a similar consumer feature that runs on the GPU for that reason)
Cuda is also why they've been dominant in the 3d animation and video editing space. For the longest time Nvidia was the only option for hardware accelerating Adobe software and most GPU based 3d render engines.
@@DeanRockne Yes that was another amazing side benefit. Its why I always told people to chuck their money into NVIDIA stock if they have some - they seemed unbeatable in large scale data processing, which inevitably would become more in the future. Too bad I never had enough money to invest into anything 😁😄
Jensen Huang's quarter 6 gambit was planning ahead for AI
The thing about something costing $3k to make and sell for $50k, once competition finally shows up they could cut the price in half and still make a fuck load of money.
Other companies will have to make up the r&d cost, well unless its china, they wont be able to sell for less than nvidia can.
To be fair you see pretty big markups for a lot of art related things, like if some woodsmith makes a chair it'll probably often cost like 10-20 bucks in materials but sell for like 100-200 bucks. But tbh the labor probably adds most of the price on the chip and the chair would cost around a 100 with the worktime added to it
But they're not very comparable because there's not many people who would buy the chairs, but if someone orders them you'd probably make like 8 of them most of the time, well if they're like kitchen table chairs.
If they cut the price in half, the stock market won’t like that - it’ll signal that growth is slowing and that more competition is increasing. Meaning it’s time to start derisking holdings of Nvidia and start dumping shares lol.
@@LaSombraa ok sure. But if everyone stops buying Nvidia's stuff, then that would be far worse than lowering the price to compete.
Every 5 days, I look at NVIDIA and imagine how much money I could have made if I had put my money in. Everytime I stop myself from going in, thinking it's peaked and I'm not a bagholder. Then I look 5 days later and it's up 5%
Thought the same but I gambled a bit with their earnings and went in.
Nvidia CEO said it the best. You take raw data, apply energy to a computer and money comes pouring out.
Been waiting for a nvidia vid, thank you Big A very cool
this dont gonna end well
Very good video. I'm glad UA-cam recommended it.
Damn this was put up fast. Great marketing monday, Thanks to big A and everyone involved !!
Pelosi disclosed one of her largest trades in an option buy for an nvidia strike call, estimated to be be worth $1-5 million at the time of purchasing. She did this on Christmas eve last year, about a month after buying them. (possibly to dodge media attention)
Side note: (i believe) she has an average return of like 346% on each of her nvidia trades, which is just slightly questionable. idk, but the pattern is patterning right now
Hasnt It come out that she does insider Trading a while ago
@@tddNandoof course she isn’t insider trading, that’d be illegal
@@tddNandopretty sure sitting members of congress are exempt from insider trading rules.
yo at what time is the market monday streams???
it would be intesting to do a deep dive on ASML , its a company that once was super small and separated from Philips in the 90s i think. Then build a crazy multi billion empire by specializing on building the machines that make the microchips. There is no TSMC without ASML All the microchips worldwide are pretty much made by ASML machines. NVDIA chips are also made by ASML machines.
The average machine they sell goes for about 400mil USD. And especially the last few years they have sold a lot of machines.
"ASML has revealed that its cutting-edge High-NA extreme ultraviolet (EUV) chipmaking tools, called High-NA Twinscan EXE, will cost around $380 million each-over twice as much as its existing Low-NA EUV lithography systems that cost about $183 million"
So the newest machine cost closely to 400mil, and in this article it mentioned they already had 10 to 20 initial orders.
And they are a huge company in a tiny village in the Netherlands, Veldhoven.
They are also buying up the whole city and there are some crazy stories there
What a great analysis.
I saw this live on twitch and it was a surreal experience lol
its important to note most oil is not in the SP500, like suadi aramco or premex (mexico) or all the other countries' oil companies
Another thing that could be a risk is something like a huge update to software, as things become more optimised (requiring less hardware) the need for newer and or more GPU's might diminish, a huge part of improvement of software is optimisation and breakthrough in AI optimisation (probably coming from an AI) could be a risk.
This entire video is basically what I learned yesterday in my finance class that I pay money for.
0:41that oy thing i kniw abou them
Bro I need more videos like this. I'm begging.
So... you're telling me to short? LETS GOOOOO!
Your commitment to putting reality over trend and hype genuinely makes you one of the best creators on and platform and as a long time fan I cannot appreciate that enough
I love these kinds of videos, please don't stop!
I’m an engineer at a chip plant. The technology in building these is insane and the tech gap between different industries is massssssive.
You should change that "emergency meeting" to say "emergency marketing".
The market is genuinely such an interesting thing. Glad I found atrioc not long after I got into it
blessed be thou when atrioc uploads
MARKETING MONDAY IS BACK missed these
Hoping we dont repeat another NORTEL incident. People will loose their jobs, investmets, pensions...Nvida is a new super giant
A bobby brocoli fan i see
@purvispisgah yeah i watched the video, but my Dad is a telecommunications architect for Avaya (one of the branches of AT&T during the split), so I know a lot from his experience too
Damn! You nailed it, dawg
spoontrioc
I work as an engineer in a consulting company that specializes in data centers, and get to see a lot of behind-the-scenes looks at the financials of a data center, and have seen the industry continuously grow and grow each year. Data centers are absurdly profitable. The projects are always over budget and past schedule, and it never matters because a $340 million Facebook data center is profitable in 11 months after being built. Absolutely absurd money. If you can find an in to the industry to profit off of it, do it. Best career decision I ever made
If you don't mind me asking, what kind of engineering degree did you get?
I’m a mechanical engineer! I work with a lot of mechanical and electrical engineers, and if I had to point you in a direction data center wise that’s where I’d want to be, mechanical or electrical. Computer systems engineers tend to end up in operations, doing more boring stuff, I like the project side.
Awesome, thanks for the reply!@@williamsnapp2615
@@williamsnapp2615 do you have any good youtube videos to recommend that shows a day of a life working in operations because I dislike boring stuff and what college experience lead you to your job currently and how fast can I get this
I sound like a broken record but these are SO GOOD! Thank you for these recaps time zones be damned I'd love to catch these live.
Great video!
Invest in shovels
You are a valuable asset to the company
5:14 I wonder if he’s starting to regret resigning
After watching the amazing bobbybroccoli video on the history of Nortel, hearing "everybody's retirement is bound to 2 tech companies right now" is a really harrowing sentence
Good prep for the interview bub. You’re getting rehired
I have a nvedia in my computer. Will it go up in value?
MARKETING MONDAY!?
Thanks for the analysis, brother.
No mention of ARM being a competition in this space. Seems like AI chips is their last ditch effort to make something of the company and already showing good signs
love the enron hat xD
Thank you big A for the insightful video. Always appreciated mister Ewang
Worth saying that Moore's law is no longer dead with these GPUs as well. The last few speed increases for AI training: A100: 3x, H100: 4x, GH200: 9x.
sure, this is just 1968-1972 are in Moores law.
I'm sure Atrioc knows this, but the reason there is so many $1,300 strike options is because the further the strike from the market price, the cheaper the option. This means lots of meme traders are in the mix.
whats the song at 12:30
Thanks glarketer!
How far out for puts? Year?
0:59 usa isnt democray or
Open makret anymore😂😂
I NEED the 2024 predictions
farketing friday
My work just bought 2 H100 gpu clusters, 8 gpus each. $40-50k is market price, nvidia works with large customers so we got each for just above $20k a piece. It’s insane the monopoly they have. Amd needs to catch up if anyone wants to try and compete in this market.
Would like to once again shoutout the editors for using Mario Strikers: Charged music, it makes my day everytime I hear something off that soundtrack
I wonder if this huge demand for GPUs will remain for a long time though because there is a large research interest in memory/hardware efficient AI models (especially in academia, because most universities cannot keep up with the industrial AI research).
Tensor I think people also use for small projects but idk how well adopted it is in corporate environments
I just know i remember the name TensorFlow from the raspberry pi scene
Enjoy your Tulips 😅
There has been a fair amount of research on this subject, the stock markets overall gains being driven by a small handful of companies is consistent with historical trends.
Hey, if You have it saved/bookmarked could You please share where is it/what keywords to use to find it?
atrioc, what kinds of stocks do you typically invest in? for me personally, my go-to is chicken stock but beef stock is alright, vegetable stock L
I feel like this is weirdly mirroring the Nortel incident in Canada
fellow bobbybroccoli fan?
In what way? Didn't Nortel collapse because they were acquiring companies using stock and their numbers weren't reported to account for this
He means the way such a big portion of retirement funds etc is invested in nvidia, but maybe this wont be an issue as long as nvidia isnt doing anything else dodgy like nortel, I'm not an expert tho
@@Henry-qt3py basically that people are putting a lot of their savings into nvidia, and in a broader sense, ETFs that track the broader market, making them probably overvalued, thus creating a bubble. Atrioc said before in another video that he read a few economists saying that since the modern financial common sense is to invest into things like ETFs that track the broad market, particularly ones that track the s&p 500. It creates this cycle where people are incentivized to keep investing more, which leads to more good PR about the stocks/ETFs as you get better returns from more people jumping on the train, which leads to more investments, and yet the choice to invest usually isn’t based on the actual merits/profit of the companies.
The M7/nvidia mirror Nortel in that how “good” the economy/market is doing is based on how good a few select companies are doing. In Canada with Nortel, the company’s stock alone was over 30% of the entire Toronto Stock Exchange, a lot of which was money from self-invested retirement plans. When Nortel crashed, many people’s savings went with it. Now obviously the key difference is that in America, it’s a lot more diversified, so we have higher guard rails, but it’s scary to think about the correction that should theoretically be coming soon in response to a lot of companies being overvalued in terms stock price vs. how much they actually (or could potentially) make
@@Henry-qt3pyWhen Nvidia inevitability collapses in price; a lot of people will become permabagholders lol
Must be some tasty chips
265% seem to correlate pretty well with price increases of GPU´s the last few years :P