You're 100% right. By following a very similar path, I went from having no coding experience to becoming a full stack engineer in a local small web development startup. I managed to land a job by teaching myself the MERN stack (Mongoose, Express, React and Node) under 3 months. I also learned how to use Next, a full stack framework for production. It's my favorite framework to date. I personally recommend that all those who have already mastered the MERN stack learn it. Update 1: Thank you guys for all the support. This is the first time I've received this many likes. I'd just like you to know that I have an interview scheduled for next week with one of the biggest web development companies in my country. I'll finally be able to make more than minimum wage despite the fact I don't have a degree and I'm not currently enrolled in university. Please, wish me luck.
@@davidrtrains Yep. I didn't have any projects nor any kind of experience working in the tech industry. I did drop out of school so I could learn as much as possible. I was and still am very motivated.
@@aarondiaz_14 what sources did you mainly use to acquire your knowledge/skills? I been studying JavaScript on freecodecamp for 2 weeks and am halfway through the ES6 section. I haven't learned any html or css at all yet. Any advice?
Yes, this is true. Companies will hardly give you a raise even if you are performing well and they can afford it, and they will never hesitate to fire you if someone better comes along or they have to cut costs. Being always in search of a new job is the only real way to increase your salary and get any sort of job security. I've been doing that ever since I joined the industry, and a few days ago I managed to get an interview for one of the biggest web development companies in my country.
I agree with the last tip. The company that hired me was application number 309. They won't be loyal to you, so don't be loyal when beginning to apply. Apply EVERYWHERE
Speaking as a Software Engineer III this should be titled “How to be a web developer quickly”. Stop misleading people thinking this is the right path to ANY software engineering.
I've seen this same advise mentioned in a lot of places so I tried to follow this path. I worry it is getting saturated as a lot of people are going through this same route. What other paths would you recommend for other aspiring software engineers?
Hey Dean, can you tell us the fastest way you would start to become a software engineer? I always see ppl say just become a full stack react+node web dev but I’m not sure what other software engineers would do instead of web dev. they never really give me a clear answer
@@garyadamos Hey Gary, My route took many years, good software engineers shouldn’t care about how quickly they get there, they should care about being properly prepared first to be an asset to the team. I came from video games, big data, databases, aviation and now weather forecasting as a C++ programmer and I can tell you that 15 years after starting I am still learning tons and ever improving contributions to teams. Videos like this should never be payed attention to - there is so much more to this field.
@@ezeihemadu7575 Hey Eze, I would suggest people find the area they are interested in, and if it is a field that will benefit from a comp sci degree then take the comp eco degree route. I’m so tired of the “you don’t need a comp sci degree to be a software engineer…” which is true to an extent, but I can point to fields where it’s even best to have a masters if you really want to flourish. Just take your time and be the best you can be. I graduated comp sci in 1999 for the record and continually adding to my skill set.
@@butchdean Thanks for your answer, I'm still pursuing my CS degree so I'm still trying to gauge my options. Maybe I'll develop my C++ skills too and jump into something in finance :P
@@abdulsahi3582 (in a nutshell I learned js in 4 months)well, I don't remember to be honest, but learning stuff that was mentioned in video (js,html,css,react,node,git) took me about 4 months, and I don't think that I learned them in proper way, now I am not good neither front end nor back end, all I can recommend is don't rush, everything takes time I guess, I don't know what's considered mastering a language is because all I did was learning syntaxis, I think language in programming doesn't play a role, it's just a tool and it takes time to know language in proper way, where switching to another language won't be a problem
For front end, like what Nick is talking about, I recommend the odin project. I'm using this to learn for my job. We have a front end component in TypeScript/React. I'm more comfortable with Java, and that is our backend services, but we have to focus on front end for now. I find these tasks harder than Java tasks.
This is me and it's 07th of October , 2022. I noted down all your points, and I shall be following them, Will be returning in a year to tell you how I performed!!!!!
One of the things that has become off-putting in recent years is the demand for frameworks like vue, react, angular etc. In truth, they can be learned over a weekend with a free UA-cam course. If you know Javascript, don't let the lack of knowledge of a particular framework put you off!!!
the worst part about the shotgun approach is that I got so many hackerank tests that I cant stand them anymore. they are a waste of time, basically just a coding brain teaser that when you finish you leave with nothing. if instead of those I had spent my time building a portfolio...
how much knowledge of data structures & algorithms would be sufficient? to be ready to apply for some entry level software engineer/full stack developer jobs?
To apply? None. But getting through tech screens you'll need at the very least one O(log n) sorting algo like quick sort of merge sort and a basic understanding of arrays, hash maps, and primitive types.
What Savage said is correct but I will also tell you not every place requires a knowledge of algorithms. The place I’m at didn’t ask anything about algorithms when they called me. All they wanted was someone who had a little bit of Java and a little bit of cloud
@@ryanunknown4181 I've been trying to convince people that once you start applying everyone and actually get into the interviews you realize that the interviewers can't solve leetcodes either and just want to make sure you'll get tickets done and not be annoying lol
One question I have that may differ to others is when do u know when u can move on to another language. I mean I did free code camp and did my certification for html/css and python but I’m not sure if I know enough to say “yea I know these languages”
If you have deep knowledge of vanilla js and are comfortable with html and css you could definitely find a job. However, with this knowledge you could pick up a framework like react or learn MERN stack and find a better job, easier.
Hey Nick, I believe I'm ok with programming and I get many interviews but my problem is how do I prepare for interviews because I'm kinda stuck in that situation for a long time.
in France...job applications are not BS, (i mean they are but-->) when I applied to a lot of jobs but these companies are looking for some 5 legged horse that is never tired.... I really like web developpement and i won't give up, but damn...those overwhelming jobs makes it weird for junior here, it's like every single one of them want the 5legged horse, but none of them wants to help juniors 😑😑
Stop using software (engineer) for such development stuff, such clickbaity videos all over the web, Those are called programmers/ developers (computer scientists at most), Software engineering is the discepline of architecting, designing, testing, and analyzing softwares, DON'T mix stuff for those watching.
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rip after getting 1000 rejection from fang. i still got rejected
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You're 100% right. By following a very similar path, I went from having no coding experience to becoming a full stack engineer in a local small web development startup. I managed to land a job by teaching myself the MERN stack (Mongoose, Express, React and Node) under 3 months. I also learned how to use Next, a full stack framework for production. It's my favorite framework to date. I personally recommend that all those who have already mastered the MERN stack learn it.
Update 1: Thank you guys for all the support. This is the first time I've received this many likes. I'd just like you to know that I have an interview scheduled for next week with one of the biggest web development companies in my country. I'll finally be able to make more than minimum wage despite the fact I don't have a degree and I'm not currently enrolled in university. Please, wish me luck.
@@HrissW UA-cam maybe or the internet
You went from 0 coding to learning all that & landing that job in under 3 months..?..
@@davidrtrains Yep. I didn't have any projects nor any kind of experience working in the tech industry. I did drop out of school so I could learn as much as possible. I was and still am very motivated.
@@aarondiaz_14 what sources did you mainly use to acquire your knowledge/skills? I been studying JavaScript on freecodecamp for 2 weeks and am halfway through the ES6 section. I haven't learned any html or css at all yet. Any advice?
Is another approach if you mostly learn backend language like c++ and java with zero to no experience in front-end.
Thank for pointing out Social Presence is also important for jobs. Keep it up Nick!
God damn that is soo accurate line "Company treat us like numbers and we should treat company like numbers" totally agree with that.
Dont use Gods name in vain :(
I learned that very late in my career unfortunately.
Yes, this is true. Companies will hardly give you a raise even if you are performing well and they can afford it, and they will never hesitate to fire you if someone better comes along or they have to cut costs. Being always in search of a new job is the only real way to increase your salary and get any sort of job security. I've been doing that ever since I joined the industry, and a few days ago I managed to get an interview for one of the biggest web development companies in my country.
main part of the video starts @ 2:00
thank you
Continue doing what you're doing man. You're such an inspiration!
I agree with the last tip. The company that hired me was application number 309. They won't be loyal to you, so don't be loyal when beginning to apply. Apply EVERYWHERE
Speaking as a Software Engineer III this should be titled “How to be a web developer quickly”. Stop misleading people thinking this is the right path to ANY software engineering.
I've seen this same advise mentioned in a lot of places so I tried to follow this path. I worry it is getting saturated as a lot of people are going through this same route. What other paths would you recommend for other aspiring software engineers?
Hey Dean, can you tell us the fastest way you would start to become a software engineer? I always see ppl say just become a full stack react+node web dev but I’m not sure what other software engineers would do instead of web dev. they never really give me a clear answer
@@garyadamos Hey Gary,
My route took many years, good software engineers shouldn’t care about how quickly they get there, they should care about being properly prepared first to be an asset to the team.
I came from video games, big data, databases, aviation and now weather forecasting as a C++ programmer and I can tell you that 15 years after starting I am still learning tons and ever improving contributions to teams.
Videos like this should never be payed attention to - there is so much more to this field.
@@ezeihemadu7575 Hey Eze,
I would suggest people find the area they are interested in, and if it is a field that will benefit from a comp sci degree then take the comp eco degree route. I’m so tired of the “you don’t need a comp sci degree to be a software engineer…” which is true to an extent, but I can point to fields where it’s even best to have a masters if you really want to flourish.
Just take your time and be the best you can be. I graduated comp sci in 1999 for the record and continually adding to my skill set.
@@butchdean Thanks for your answer, I'm still pursuing my CS degree so I'm still trying to gauge my options. Maybe I'll develop my C++ skills too and jump into something in finance :P
Just start with C. With enough dedication it won't take that long to master it and after that any other language is pretty much a walk in the park.
Nick I just gave your more respect with the way you disseminated this information with accuracy. thanks
I think this is a pretty solid rundown… Thanks Nick!
I guess all I have left to do is build some projects and start applying, thanks for encouraging us
What languages do you know and how long did it take to learn them?
@@abdulsahi3582 (in a nutshell I learned js in 4 months)well, I don't remember to be honest, but learning stuff that was mentioned in video (js,html,css,react,node,git) took me about 4 months, and I don't think that I learned them in proper way, now I am not good neither front end nor back end, all I can recommend is don't rush, everything takes time I guess, I don't know what's considered mastering a language is because all I did was learning syntaxis, I think language in programming doesn't play a role, it's just a tool and it takes time to know language in proper way, where switching to another language won't be a problem
Thanx and Happy New year 2023 🙂
Python and all other programming languages look like I'm reading an alien language. I may not ever be able to comprehend coding...
I also observed a copycat paste culture common amongst recruiters
thanks for all the tips, only thing left for me now to start applying.
For front end, like what Nick is talking about, I recommend the odin project. I'm using this to learn for my job. We have a front end component in TypeScript/React. I'm more comfortable with Java, and that is our backend services, but we have to focus on front end for now. I find these tasks harder than Java tasks.
Web development != software engineer
Thank you Nick.
"Companies treat us like numbers and you should treat companies like numbers too"
~Nick White (circa 2022)
Subbed for straight-up truth spitting ✨
This is me and it's 07th of October , 2022. I noted down all your points, and I shall be following them, Will be returning in a year to tell you how I performed!!!!!
Almost a year, can we have an update about your journey?
One of the things that has become off-putting in recent years is the demand for frameworks like vue, react, angular etc. In truth, they can be learned over a weekend with a free UA-cam course. If you know Javascript, don't let the lack of knowledge of a particular framework put you off!!!
React isn't a framework, it's a library. This isn't pedantic either. This is an important distinction.
I saw AngelList and LinkedIn and I immediately thought "LinkedList" and was so confused because I couldn't see it anywhere.
the worst part about the shotgun approach is that I got so many hackerank tests that I cant stand them anymore.
they are a waste of time, basically just a coding brain teaser that when you finish you leave with nothing.
if instead of those I had spent my time building a portfolio...
Don't become a software engineer fast.
Do it properly, forget fast.
Thank you Nick for your Insights it really helped with some questions that I had on the back of my mind.
Great Content
Very clean and precise. Thank you for this
Thank you!
"Companies treat us like numbers and you should treat companies like numbers too..."
It's a good strategy, actually applying to lots of jobs it's better than not applying, so- yh!
how much knowledge of data structures & algorithms would be sufficient? to be ready to apply for some entry level software engineer/full stack developer jobs?
To apply? None. But getting through tech screens you'll need at the very least one O(log n) sorting algo like quick sort of merge sort and a basic understanding of arrays, hash maps, and primitive types.
What Savage said is correct but I will also tell you not every place requires a knowledge of algorithms. The place I’m at didn’t ask anything about algorithms when they called me. All they wanted was someone who had a little bit of Java and a little bit of cloud
@@ryanunknown4181 I've been trying to convince people that once you start applying everyone and actually get into the interviews you realize that the interviewers can't solve leetcodes either and just want to make sure you'll get tickets done and not be annoying lol
@@SavageDoesSomething tickets done?
@@SavageDoesSomething bro 😂😂😂 logn sorting algo… NLOGN.
Pretty solid input Nick. Thanks man
Very appreciate your insights
Arigato Nick sensei!
I’m currently building projects with react js but haven’t made a project yet with pure vanilla javascript, thoughts on this?
One question I have that may differ to others is when do u know when u can move on to another language. I mean I did free code camp and did my certification for html/css and python but I’m not sure if I know enough to say “yea I know these languages”
Question: is understanding html, css, and javascript just enough to get a frontend job ? Or do I need to know more
If you have deep knowledge of vanilla js and are comfortable with html and css you could definitely find a job. However, with this knowledge you could pick up a framework like react or learn MERN stack and find a better job, easier.
Nope , full stack is common and trendy these days. For fresher it's always fullstack and as you gain experience you can narrow down them
What do you think of coding bootcamps?
if i’m only planing on becoming a front end developer do i need to learn node js?
Great points. But any tips on how to get a remote developer job without any experience?
Thank you that is all I can say 💫
Thank You! This was really needed for me ❤️
great advice! replayed a few times to catch it all! Thank you for the insight nick!
is learning DSA+leetcode vital as well?
Thank you :)
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Thanks Nick!
Great.
I followed your advices and it worked pretty well . Thanks 🙏😁
Thank you for sharing this
A real world advice based on truth!
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Thank you for sharing
Realest person alive
is django and react a good combination?
please do reply, I'm confused
Hey, if you are looking to be a web developer, yes. Is one of the most uses for Python(Django) and Js(React)
I should take your course! Do you have your course or your courses?!!
Solid advice.
thank you for this
Thanks for sharing
Thank you for your content
Thanks for the advice. It seems like helpful advice and very achievable for most. 👍
The only problem is that all these skills are too elementary to get a job. In other words, you won't be hired with those skills.
THanks nick.
Hey Nick, I believe I'm ok with programming and I get many interviews but my problem is how do I prepare for interviews because I'm kinda stuck in that situation for a long time.
I heard leetcode helps prepare you with interview questions. Check that out.
Wait. Was this an entire SWE video that didn’t mention python?
You don’t need python. You can learn Django but no one hires an entry level Django developer.
Perfect, thanks alot 🔥
On point!
Is college necessary for job
Thanks bro
Dude, you're awesome
You are inspiring
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I think video title should be "the fastest way to make money from coding" but perfect video thanks.
in France...job applications are not BS, (i mean they are but-->) when I applied to a lot of jobs but these companies are looking for some 5 legged horse that is never tired.... I really like web developpement and i won't give up, but damn...those overwhelming jobs makes it weird for junior here, it's like every single one of them want the 5legged horse, but none of them wants to help juniors 😑😑
Isn't python more beginner friendly? Would python work versus the three you named? Thanks in advance!
No DS Algo? Really? Wih this path you gonna work at very low income companies
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First one here.
Great video.
Stop using software (engineer) for such development stuff, such clickbaity videos all over the web, Those are called programmers/ developers (computer scientists at most), Software engineering is the discepline of architecting, designing, testing, and analyzing softwares, DON'T mix stuff for those watching.
1st comment . YAY