Genetics of Neanderthals

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  • @KOALAGUY123
    @KOALAGUY123 День тому +26

    I liked when you did these videos with your own voice.

    • @YloahMonkey
      @YloahMonkey День тому +9

      Agree. People are mor eliekly to purchase trait predictor if they hear a real voice too.

    • @MickeyMouse-el5bk
      @MickeyMouse-el5bk День тому +2

      Me too

    • @wrog-ie2dk
      @wrog-ie2dk День тому +7

      I prefer the AI voice to be honest. Andrei's accent can make it hard to understand what he's saying sometimes and I like the clarity and cadence of the tts voice.

    • @Ponto-zv9vf
      @Ponto-zv9vf День тому +1

      I have mixed feelings. Andrei's voice is understandable, the AI is okay, I prefer a British accent. The AI pronounces worrier and warrior the same way that Andrei does which is neither the standard American or British English way. It is confusing to me as warrior and worrier sound the same the way Andrei says the words.

    • @askarufus7939
      @askarufus7939 18 годин тому

      ​@wrog-ie2dk I don't care about the accent but he does speak too fast

  • @antoniotorcoli-z7c
    @antoniotorcoli-z7c День тому +3

    Many may think that there is a problem in the calculator. I do not think so. At first glance it seems odd that subsaharan Africans are closer to Neanderthal than Europeans and Asians, who carry around 2 percent of Neanderthal ancestry. But, as you rightly pointed out, genetic proxymity doesn't necessary imply a common ancestry. The mistery can be easily solved: many studies indicate that subsaharan Africans have a high percentage of admixture with an archaic species, which was probably genetically closer to Neanderthal than to Modern Humans.

  • @nataliak7352
    @nataliak7352 День тому +3

    What a great discussion is sparked on your channel, Andrei ❤ Your subscribers are amazing!

  • @Khankhankhan420
    @Khankhankhan420 День тому +9

    Wow they are more human than I could imagine. I think it’s dumb they’re classified as a separate species. We clearly interbred and the offspring were fertile. Side note, a lot of what was said is common in my family. Parkinson’s autism and schizophrenia and cardio vascular issues are rampant in my family tree

    • @YloahMonkey
      @YloahMonkey День тому +5

      They are a separate species.

    • @nenirouvelliv
      @nenirouvelliv День тому +3

      I do wonder how well the neanderthal genome matches to the Sapien genome and if there are a lot of false matches. But I'm no expert so who am I to say. It's just that we don't have any living Neanderthal sample to give us a phenotype that we can use to compare the genotype to.

    • @Ponto-zv9vf
      @Ponto-zv9vf День тому +3

      They are close, but they are separate species of Homo. Fertility was probably one way, the females being fertile and the males less so or sterile. Neanderthal dna has been steadily decreased in Sapiens Humans, so Neanderthal dna is not wholly compatible or superior to Sapiens dna.

    • @PanchoKhan
      @PanchoKhan День тому

      Some of the Neanderthal-Homo Sapiens clearly weren't fertile as there are no Neanderthal y-DNA or mt-DNA in UP and later humans .

    • @seal7513
      @seal7513 9 годин тому +1

      @@Ponto-zv9vf It's called hybridization. Clearly humans can hybridize. When you compare East Asians and Sub-Sub Saharan's, they are obviously different species....

  • @tananari47
    @tananari47 День тому +3

    Something to keep in mind that just because the gene samples suggest these traits in *Sapiens* does not mean those traits would be present in neanderthal. We see time and again with other closely related species that genes that are normal and healthy in one, will cause problems in the other. And this becomes especially apparent in first generation hybrids, such as the liger, which (usually) has gigantism because growth regulation genes are positioned differently between species.
    Made all the more interesting because the tigon- same thing, but swap the sexes of the parents- almost never has gigantism.

    • @gregorylaufend2570
      @gregorylaufend2570 14 годин тому

      What are political implications of this?

    • @tananari47
      @tananari47 9 годин тому +1

      @@gregorylaufend2570 Why would there be political implications? I mean, I know crazy people can make anything political, but this isn't even the controversial side of genetic science.

    • @seal7513
      @seal7513 7 годин тому +1

      @@tananari47 What happens when you mix East Asians and Sub-Saharan Africans? They are different species.

    • @tananari47
      @tananari47 6 годин тому

      ​@seal7513
      No. They're the same species. We all are. If science had discovered a non-extinct species of human other than our own, everyone on the planet would have heard by now.
      But in this 20th century world of being able to migrate across the world in a matter of hours... every possible racial admixture has been created, and none of them show any disorder indicative of a species level genetic drift.
      If anything, the problem for modern humans is we're all genetically *too* similar. It's why we're one of only a handful of species on earth for whom cousin-inbreeding comes with nearly guaranteed disorders.

    • @seal7513
      @seal7513 5 годин тому

      Not really, there's a taboo problem in Academia where they really want racially egalitarianism to be a thing, but it's not. If there's different species/sub-species it would be kept hush, hush. Even that asshole David Reich was forced to admit that there's lots of evidence against racial egalitarianism.
      we all have different genetic quality and have been carved by different forces in our history. Blank slate theory has been disproven and is dangerous commie-style thinking.
      And perhaps humans just hybridize differently than other species. I believe there's a "higher power" that basically helps make stuff emerge so possibilities can be realizable. You need sentient, innovative lifeforms + civilization to make really cool stuff emerge from the fabric of the universe.
      Genetics matter for the creation of culture as well which is a response to various environments. Do you think inbred low IQ englishmen and High IQ Englishmen would create the same culture? absolutely not, but the fundamental core of their cultures would be the same as their the same breed of people with different genetic quality.
      That's why I don't care if other races/breeds of people can mimic NW europeans culture. Sometimes our culture fails and we need to create a new one, they literally just get in the way of that, and if we get replaced (which has the same end-result of genocide) then we won't be around to create another culture. No British Isle's natives = no new british culture will ever be created.
      I'm also pro-reformed eugenics (no state program to avoid political abuse, it's parental choice only) where we get our former child prodigies to become sperm/egg donors and create whiz kids with that... so they have the potential to invent stuff that makes life better for everyone including possibly extending our lifespans further.

  • @MickeyMouse-el5bk
    @MickeyMouse-el5bk День тому +4

    Absolutely strange 😮

    • @Ponto-zv9vf
      @Ponto-zv9vf День тому

      The closeness to Black Africans? Neanderthals have more ancient dna than Sapiens Humans, and so do Black Africans.

  • @burus33
    @burus33 День тому +3

    Great video❤️ please do on Western Georgians (Mingrelians, Svans, etc.) because they have highest CHG, are white and have many champions in the sports, very strange and interesting people that needs to be studied more

    • @Ponto-zv9vf
      @Ponto-zv9vf День тому

      You should use European rather than White, as the latter is too skewed towards NW Europeans, WASP types. I don't mind as long as those Caucasian Caucasians are not dancing in the roadway. CHG and Iranian Farmer ancestry are quite close, so how do you know that it is CHG and not Iranian Farmer.

    • @burus33
      @burus33 20 годин тому

      @@Ponto-zv9vf​​⁠I think it needs to be studied more, first of all they are still very distinct, distance between them is too big they can’t be same, they might be related little bit but they are still different right? Phenotypically georgians are white and many of them have blonde/ginger hair with blue eyes, their architecture is european too, colchis culture and then medieval times (Dadiani Palace) and etc. yamnaya was 50% chg and 50% EHG, if chg is iranian then north europeans are iranian too, not even that but proto-greeks had 12-32% CHG rest ANF ancestry, Difference between them is that georgians have 60-63% and rest ANF, so i think georgians are fully european, they dont have zagrosian and steppe/turkic admixture unlike north caucasians, also they are very different from iranians, iranians look like little bit indian/arab, act very different and have whole different culture , btwLow CRIME rate and rich history says they are european, i hope you will understand what i mean lol

    • @burus33
      @burus33 19 годин тому

      @@Ponto-zv9vf​​⁠​​⁠I think it needs to be studied more, first of all they are still very distinct, distance between them is too big they can’t be same, they might be related little bit but they are still different right? Phenotypically georgians are white and many of them have blonde/ginger hair with blue eyes, their architecture is european too, colchis culture and then medieval times (Dadiani Palace) and etc. yamnaya was 50% chg and 50% EHG, if chg is iranian then north europeans are iranian too, not even that but proto-greeks had 12-32% CHG rest ANF ancestry, Difference between them is that georgians have 60-63% and rest ANF, so i think georgians are fully european, they dont have zagrosian and steppe/turkic admixture unlike north caucasians, also they are very different from iranians, iranians look like little bit indian/arab, act very different and have whole different culture , btwLow CRIME rate and rich history says they are european, i hope you will understand what i mean lol

    • @burus33
      @burus33 15 годин тому

      @@Ponto-zv9vfThey are still very different, right? genetic distance between them is too big, they are related but not same, iranians are very different, they have darker skin/hair, different mentality, different culture/architecture and etc. Georgians are white with light coloring and europoid architecture (Colchis artifacts/culture, medieval palaces for example Dadiani palace and others, feudalism, writing and rich european history) and don’t wanna sound ra#ist but low crime rate and much more civillized, no? earliest white skin alleles was found in satsurblia cave as far as i know, not only that but also Blue eyes, they are pretty different but CHG were related to Iranian Farmers yes, still huge difference, also unlike other caucasians and neighbor countries, kartvelians don’t have zagrosian and steppe/turkic admixture, CHG and rest ANF is their ancestral makeup, with sometimes 3% natufian maybe (every european have this) so i’m interested about their genetics, first gold mining, first wine, first use of fibers for clothing, first white skin and blue eyes and colchis kingdom, dominating every sport they will touch and are big naturally, sounds glazing but i think we need good video about them

    • @seal7513
      @seal7513 6 годин тому

      @@burus33 Holy fk, White ethnonym is truly the modern successor to the bronze age Aryan ethnonym. Everyone wants to be white, but white used to only refer to NW europeans as we literally created that ethnonym.
      Yes we share ancient stock and thus phenotypes and other genetic traits, but that does not make one white. Yes, our ethnonym is kinda stupid because we don't hold a monopoly on light skin and other fair features.
      Like can we PLEASE have our own Ethnonym and not have everyone try to hijack FFS. Going by Aryan is a no-no and as Andrei said, we're just Aryan-like (with some individual's genetic profiles being like 85% Aryan-like).
      Maybe NW europeans should go by Hwhite like how the southerners say it and the West Eurasian hordes (you and many others) can have white.

  • @CHAINSFRTIKTOKCLIPS
    @CHAINSFRTIKTOKCLIPS День тому +4

    you should do genetics of spainards and englishmen

    • @Ponto-zv9vf
      @Ponto-zv9vf День тому

      Spaniards or Spanish, my friend. In racist terms, English people are White, and Spanish are not.

    • @seal7513
      @seal7513 9 годин тому

      @@Ponto-zv9vf It's not racist. White used to be our ethnonym for NW europeans (and honestly should have been applied to Irish, but they were treated like whipping boys). Yes, you can easily make fun of our ethnonym because we don't have a monopoly on light-skin. We should probably call ourselves Hwhite.
      White is the modern successor to the Aryan ethnonym of the bronze age. Now everyone wants to be white, especially some Iranians. No Iranians, you are our genetic cousins. We are red, you are orange. We are family and nobody is replaceable.
      Besides in North America, the white identity basically evolved into the European identity. Everyone who is part of Europe's genetic fabric may as well call themselves white in north America.

  • @ajk9420
    @ajk9420 День тому

    4:33 hmm I thought that was a trait specific to denisovans. Good to know.

  • @radiozelaza
    @radiozelaza 22 години тому

    if they obeyed the moral law, I would grant them full citizenship :>

  • @MickeyMouse-el5bk
    @MickeyMouse-el5bk День тому +3

    Non sapiens but humans❤

  • @l.b.d
    @l.b.d 3 години тому

    I was just told that this dude “Miro” on Twitter (who has a verifiably fake name and profile image and has lied about his credentials) taught you everything you know about genetics… I don’t believe that, but Andrei, could you clarify whether this is true?

  • @leztion
    @leztion День тому

    intresting, since homo sapien coloring genes probably devloped later do you think neanderthals had diffrent pigmentation than what was predicted?

  • @Chociewitka
    @Chociewitka День тому +2

    so few of O blood type - interesting!

    • @Ponto-zv9vf
      @Ponto-zv9vf День тому

      It isn't a large sample and we don't know why blood type O predominates in Sapiens.

  • @Vid-d7b
    @Vid-d7b День тому

    Did one of them have olive skintone? How does that work? Which neanderthals were this...?

  • @canerev3018
    @canerev3018 День тому +4

    Ju hoan, Khomani San, Neandertal brothers

    • @Ponto-zv9vf
      @Ponto-zv9vf День тому

      Those Sanids are separated from the ancestors of Neanderthals for thousands of years.

  • @user-yt3xd2jl6d
    @user-yt3xd2jl6d День тому +1

    Surprisingly, Asians have more Neanderthal DNA and not Denisovan DNA, they have differentiated Denisovans from Neanderthals, it seems that the first groups that populated Asia had significant levels of Neanderthal DNA and none in Denisovans, such as Tianyuan Man with 5% Neanderthal DNA, and in later periods they absorbed Denisovan DNA. Apparently there was a population collapse of Denisovans in Asia, although they survived in greater numbers in South or Southeast Asia.

    • @Ponto-zv9vf
      @Ponto-zv9vf День тому +1

      It could be the Denisovans were out competed by our type of humans, same as with the Neanderthals in West Asia.

  • @Kanasubigi896
    @Kanasubigi896 15 годин тому

    You said no other human groups beside europeans and west asians carry neanderthal dna but east asians have the most neanderthal dna

  • @HeerHalewijn
    @HeerHalewijn День тому +3

    0:13 Huh? I thought the current consensus was that everyone outside of sub-Saharan Africa has Neanderthal admixture.

    • @-andreiDNA
      @-andreiDNA  День тому +8

      Its denisova, not neanderthal in east asia ,oceania and americas. People often lump denisova in together with neanderthal, but thats incorrect since they're technically rather different genetically. The difference between neanderthal and denisova is comparable to the difference between irish and yoruba

    • @HeerHalewijn
      @HeerHalewijn День тому +3

      @-andreiDNA I thought the current consensus was that Denisovans were an additional admixture event and that the Neanderthal admixture happened prior to West Eurasians and East Eurasians diverging. At least that's what is presented by Razib Khan on his channel.

    • @amjan
      @amjan День тому +3

      @@-andreiDNA So, Aboriginies, who bare the most Neanderthal genome, and showcase sinificant phenotype similarity, have more accurately Denisovan admixture?

    • @-andreiDNA
      @-andreiDNA  День тому +5

      @@HeerHalewijn that may be the case too

    • @user-yt3xd2jl6d
      @user-yt3xd2jl6d День тому

      ​@@HeerHalewijnIf that is the consensus, the earliest anatomically modern humans in Asia had 5% Neanderthal DNA, followed by later admixture in East Asia. Populations in Southeast Asia and Oceania would have higher proportions of Denisovan DNA.

  • @bluebeef563
    @bluebeef563 День тому +2

    I used to watch your videos every day; please bring back your real voice

  • @keza3250
    @keza3250 День тому +2

    Neanderthals had Gene's for red hair an green an hazel eyes and light skin
    Neanderthals weren't dark skinned

    • @-andreiDNA
      @-andreiDNA  День тому +6

      Genetic revisionism and whataboutism, in simpler terms: Bullshit

    • @keza3250
      @keza3250 День тому

      @-andreiDNA not really look at populations with high neanderthal add mixture like western European people's who have
      Freckled skin,red hair and light eyes
      Your so called gene features tool is way off just because some carriers a certain gene type or sequence doesn't mean they'll Express it,
      It May be recessive or dormant
      Just like when two white people have black hair and blue eyes but have a child with red hair because of recessive genes
      That were dormant
      Think bro think 🤣🤣🤣
      What is revisionist is Russians
      Thinking they are decendants of Indo European or aryan peoples

    • @Ponto-zv9vf
      @Ponto-zv9vf День тому +1

      Well, we don't really know that for sure.

    • @Moocker-dk2oe
      @Moocker-dk2oe 10 годин тому +1

      Neanderthals had the V92M MC1R variant but that has no positive correlation with red hair in modern humans, even in combination with R variants strongly linked to the trait. The R variants identified in modern humans have not been found in Neanderthal samples so there is no definitive evidence for a presence of red hair among them.

  • @gvrxil
    @gvrxil День тому +1

    The reason why Neanderthals are most similar to blacks is because blacks are the next Archaic thing outside Eurasia.

    • @seal7513
      @seal7513 9 годин тому

      Sub-Saharan Africans and East asians are obviously different species. They can hybridize though.
      Although I think Sub-Saharans have superior genetic quality to most pahgeets. Sub-Saharan cities look way better than indian cities....

  • @kubakaczmarek2399
    @kubakaczmarek2399 День тому +4

    Morph is really missleading. No way they looked like black people

    • @-andreiDNA
      @-andreiDNA  День тому +12

      1. I don't think the morph looks black at all, rather East African or mixed between black and white
      2. How do you know what neanderthals looked like? Looking at their skull shape you can't tell their coloring and hair texture

    • @cimmerian_savage9736
      @cimmerian_savage9736 День тому +8

      ​@@-andreiDNA Neanderthal did have unique genetics that are not found in Sapiens, so there is a possibility that these genes were expressed differently.

    • @HeerHalewijn
      @HeerHalewijn День тому +3

      Didn't they have mutations for fair skin and red hair that are not found and unrelated to the mutations found in modern populations?

    • @Chociewitka
      @Chociewitka День тому +5

      @@HeerHalewijn might have been, but just not in those samples

    • @user_7239
      @user_7239 День тому +2

      Well apparently these samples do, kinky hair, black hair and dark skin. Why is this a surprise exactly?