REST IN PEACE TO MY TWO DAUGHTER'S GRANDFATHER PAT SMITH...SUNSET ON 6/18/19! WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU POPS, WE LOVE YOU♥️ EDIT: HIS FINAL FIGHT WAS LOST TO CANCER
No. He definitely IS a UFC legend. He fought in the very first tourney and came back to fight for UFC2. All of those early guys are legends. Pats destruction of Scott Morris is LITERALLY LEGEND. People will never forget that and will always talk about that. You don't need to win a fuckin belt to become a legend. That would be like saying Tank Abbott isn't a UFC legend. And Tank had some of the most vicious KOs in UFC history.
Pat Smith was a dangerous fighter, unpredictable fighter, but I think his downfall was his ground game was not good. Good interview here, Pat being down to earth here!
My Dad actually trained Pat Smith for the first UFC, you can see him behind Pat when he walks into the ring. Back then he was doing boxing matches, and was very good. UFC was still new, so ground game wasn't really something a lot of people knew about, except the wrestlers.
That's cool, UFC 1 where it all began, Pat Smith was one of the fighters I really enjoyed watching, shame there are not many interviews of him now, as he did a lot boxing, MMA, kickboxing & Karate & of course was in the first UFC, fought legends like Andy Hug, Ken Shamrock, Kimo & Royce Gracie.
@@MH-zg5yw he wasn't a sex offender. I was there along with two other young men. We met these young ladies who was working as dancer's in a fully-nude strip club called "Saturday's". Which the club also got sued and temporarily closed for trafficking underage girl's. Pat decided to represent himself instead of getting an attorney thinking it would be an open and shut case. It was crazy because they dismissed all 3 of us as witnesses. Including the two other dancer's that were 18 and 19.
@@quinnchilds914 in 1999 he was convicted in Colorado of sexually assaulting a 14 year old. Not sure how you don't consider that not being a sex offender. The guy was a full on convicted sex offender. in 2008 he was arrested for failing to register as a sex offender in Denison Texas
Pàt Smith is both an early UFC and K-1 legend. A lot of props to him he was very close to winning against Ken and has some notable wins against top fighters both in early K1 and UFC.
Guys, respect someone that's been around before we all ever heard of MMA. With such a brutal and scary name like this youtube poster has you must understand that he is correct. You can tell by the quality of the language that this is a deep thinker and real fight scholar.
I remember first time I saw him UFC 2. He was cocky and I didn't like him. All these years later....nothing but respect sir you were a trailblazer. R.I.P
I am not fully sure the exact diagnosis, I was already divorced from his oldest son at that time. When I got the call to say goodbye, and was told the cancer was in his bladder. HIs kidney's started failing and that's when he found out it was cancer. Passed on about a week after his diagnosis.
Great interview, but I thought it was somewhat rude that you tended to constantly interrupt Pat before he was finished with his answers. I think you should focus on at least giving them a few more seconds to finish up their answers and a few more seconds of silence afterwards before continuing with more questions. Just a few suggestions. Thank you very much for sharing, though. Pat is a true legend of the sport, even if he isn't often mentioned or remembered by some.
Please Pat Smith/Ken Shamrock number 2! Would love to see that, both more or less are the same age, build, height & Ken in recent years is more of a stand up fighter, so should make for an interesting fight, but I think Pat would probably TKO Ken. That fight would make sense for both these fighters to retire on, as they began UFC together.
Ha! I knew it! I remember arguing with a bud watching the very 1st UFC and yelling “ he’s trying to break his friggin’ toe!” He was like no way, man! That’s some kinda martial art technique! Took almost 3 decades but CONFIRMED! Lol
I have respect for Pat just cause I watched him in the early UFC's.....But remember it wasnt mma then...It was Style vs Style...Nevertheless Pat had some of the most exciting fights in the early days. Especially the fight with Pat Morris at UFC 2....
Nasty and a coward. He brutalized Scott Morris but tapped like a bitch when Royce was barely hitting him with his open hand. Same he did with Kimo. Just a coward, dirty and forgetable fighter. Notorious for his nasty tactics.
@Pitbull81InsaneKilla any one who got into a ring with the likes of ken shamrock,Royce Gracie or kimo with the rules the way the were back then is a true warrior,a true legend and a true pioneer of the sport that we all love,stop talking shit about the guy..you think you`d take him??
Yeah he is. To have 4 fights in one day when there were hardly any rules and win 3 out of 4. He's one of the early pioneers. He was there making shit happen that led to the fighters you rate.
Yep. I've been watching since 93. I agree that he was one of the better fighters back then, and a pretty tough guy. But "legend" doesn't fit to me. Then you gotta call Keith Hackney, Dave Beneteau, and Jason Delucia legends.
He is not a legend at all. He was just part of a crowd of idiots that went inside the octagon to brutalize each other without any idea of what a ground game was. I remember how he brutalized Scott Morris, but how quickly he tappep out when Royce was barely hitting him with his palm and the same he did with Kimo. The guy was a coward. These "legends" were cherry picked because the Gracies wanted just the fights they thought they could win to cement their "legacy". Ken Shamrock, he was one of the few legit fighters in those early and stupid tournaments. Ruoas, Shamrock, Sakuraba. Those are the legends. If he were a legend he wouldn't had ended up being a nobody.
@Hectorl4487 People did have ground game skills then, not everyone had them but people still had grappling and ground skills. When he fought Royce Gracie he didn't tap the towel was thrown also Gracie was punching not palm striking him. Patrick Smith may not be a all time MMA fighter but he was a skilled and accomplished fighter. Shut the fuck up you retarded bitch Patrick Smith is a underrated legend .
@@hectorl4487 He is a legend. He was one of my instructors from '93 to '97. He was a big brother to most that knew him in the community. Let's meet up and see how much disrespect you have for him after I get done with you. He was Heavyweight champion of Sabaki long before UFC, chump.
the point is this. he is a good fighter, but NOT A LEGEND.. he isnt in the hall of fame he isnt a champion and never has been.. NOT A LEGEND.. thats the only point im trying to make
no one is pretending anything no one is hiding anything under sand. as far as me myself go im not gonna pretend or lalalal anything. im dissapointed that he did what he did but im not gonna sit here and pretend that he wasnt good fighter couse he was.
@@snowwhitever2336 cool man, good to know someone can sexually assault a child but you're still going to fly the flag for how good a fighter the guy was (20 wins, 17 losses MMA, 5 wins, 11 losses Boxing doesn't sound like a good record to me, but we've already established we have very different views on what makes someone good). We should be worried that someone commits a sexual crime against a child and your reaction is, "Well that's disappointing."
@@JamesMMcCann didnt i say that im not defending hes actions . didnt i say that . did i pretend it did not happen. did i do it. idc whats good record for u. idc of ur dissapointed . i litearlly went over this topic. read my comment again kay thanks bye.
ur mad couse u lost the debate. obviously i hate him for doing what he did. never did i defend him or hes actions. he killed hes career and himself with smoke tobacco and he is prob in hell now. unless ur one of those boring and realistic atheist then he prob isnt . @@JamesMMcCann
Legend. Long before UFC he was world Heavyweight champion of the Sabaki and underground tournament the "Katuki". He was one of my instructors from '93 to '97 and I promise if he was still alive you wouldn't have said that to his face nor my face internet tough guy.
He wasn't. Just part of the crew of idiots that went inside the octagon to brutalize each other without any idea of what was going on. Gracies chose them because they represented not treat for them and their "legacy".
@@hectorl4487 Actually for the time Patrick Smith was a pretty well rounded fighter. He had experience of boxing and kickboxing, knew of grappling and given the opportunity his offense was devastating.
@@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207 What did he know about grappling? How to stay in the guard and throw kicks to the kidneys Royce's way? He did not know any submissions and his wrestling was non existent. Ruas was a round fighter, but guess what? He was not invited to participate. At least not when the Gracies were in control of the tournament.
@@hectorl4487 I said knew of. Pay attention. Royce was just a grappler with terrible striking. Pat Smith was proficient at various styles of striking and knew some basic grappling. How did he win two of his fights in UFC 2? Who would YOU say was well rounded for the time?
@grinchy01... well let me see.. JUST BECAUSE HE STEPPED INTO THE CAGE, doesnt make him a legend.. I think you are very misguided on what a "Legend" is.. I was an early participant and he did take part in the forming of the sport of MMA, but you give far far too much credit to him.. and YES, I CAN BEAT HIM..
i let cat out of the bag. im dissapointed that patrick of smith raped 14 yo girl. some say we dont know what the sytuation was. idk it either and idc he raped 14 yo girl. there is no defending it no justifyng it. not for me. he also failed to register as se x offender in 2008. its terrible it sucks im dissapointed. also i aknowledge him as a fighter and karate and ufc guy. alot of people talk down hes skills and atchievements. they underestimate and underrate him. i think patrick smith as a fighter was better than most peopple specially haters think and say he is. he could have showed so mutch more in ring if he didnt die so soon. he is inspiring fighter and in sabaki he did some bloodsport type of stuff . he had alot of heart. unsure about that andy hug fight that he won but still i think he was good and fighter with heart. sure he was no peter cunningham or andy hug eventho he had good axe kicks and karate going for him. he had indimitating looks too. sad that he passed so soon and that 14 yo girl stuff too what i cant ignore or downplay . or justify. wont do it cant do it sorry. it will forever stain hes legacy as person and fighter sadly. all i can do is be as fair as i can about the guy. wont sit here either and dehumanize him and call him pred or whatever and say under every fight he lost wow glad he got knocked out pred had it coming. all i can do is to be fair and say it happened. idk why it did but it did. wont dehumanize him and wont act as if he was this big monster couse there are worsepeople out there. sure he falt bad about it till hes last day too. i also honor and see hes legacy as martial artist and fighter with heart. its all i can and have to say for now.
He wasn't a sex offender. She was 17 years old when we would all hang out. We didn't know that was her real age due to her fake ID which said "she was 21". I was there along with two other young men. We met these 3 young ladies who was working as dancer's in a fully-nude strip club called "Saturday's". One 21 actually [17], 18 and 19 years of age. The club also got sued and temporarily closed for trafficking underage girl's. It was reopened because it was sold. The reason why Pat was convicted is because he decided to represent himself instead of getting an attorney thinking it would be an open and shut case. It was crazy because they dismissed all 3 of us as witnesses. Including the two dancers she hung with that were 18 and 19. The other two dancers even claimed that the 17yr would always purchase then liquor due to the fake ID.
@@quinnchilds914 thats cool you cleared it out . i wasnt like other people u see in comment section talking bad of him just to talk bad of him or judging him. i respect him as fighter he was. but i did not wanna ignore the cat in the bag . this info is also in hes wikipedia article this 14 yo girl rpe thing. so its public info. open or shut case or not it isnt adviced to be your own lawyer. young 17 yo girls have fake ids and lie theyr age at its scary. alot of 13 yos could pass ass 18 yos and when they lie theyr age and have fake ids too its even worse. terrible as the witnesses were just ignored like it was nothing. i myself have ben falsly accused . more of haresment of adult woman i didnt haress but still so i can tell how bad it can be when you are accused of something ur not and didnt do and when bunch of people still spread lies. i was not found guilty of haresment i didnt commit but there are still people who spread lies and act as not quilty vertic means nothing. also if cops came to me they were so sure i was guilty. the person who framed me got away and they didnt find the person or people. or they didnt wanna find them who did it. but cool that someone finally cleared the air on this on.
@@quinnchilds914 true . he was talented fighter sad that he stopped fighting it seems before hes passing like more then year before whatever happened with fighter he trained and who was hes roommate,
@• AzzA • they fabricated their own "legacy" choosing the fights they could win until they were exposed by more rounded fighters like Sakuraba. Revisionism has shown that the Gracies were nothing but arrogant cowards and they are not even liked in their own country.
He is a legend and Gracie destroyed everybody LOL Gracie in my opinion is the greatest ever in the UFC but Pat Smith is definitely a legend all of those old school OG fighters had to fight any and everybody no matter what the weight class was it was crazy
REST IN PEACE TO MY TWO DAUGHTER'S GRANDFATHER PAT SMITH...SUNSET ON 6/18/19! WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU POPS, WE LOVE YOU♥️
EDIT: HIS FINAL FIGHT WAS LOST TO CANCER
I knew Pat from Aurora 93-94...one of the kindest person I have ever known....so very sorry for your loss😖
My favourite MMA fighter. RiP
Rest in peace man
true pioneer. deserves more praise.
he was so ahead of his era. so tough
What a nice guy. Wouldn't want to piss him off. That Scott Morris fight was the most brutal KO in my opinion.
Man, there's something inspirational about that guy
No. He definitely IS a UFC legend. He fought in the very first tourney and came back to fight for UFC2. All of those early guys are legends. Pats destruction of Scott Morris is LITERALLY LEGEND. People will never forget that and will always talk about that. You don't need to win a fuckin belt to become a legend. That would be like saying Tank Abbott isn't a UFC legend. And Tank had some of the most vicious KOs in UFC history.
Pat Smith vs Morris was one of the most brutal beatdowns I had ever seen at the time.
He fought royce
@@timnavarrette6932 Yeah it doesn't get much more legendary than that.
Pat Smith was a dangerous fighter, unpredictable fighter, but I think his downfall was his ground game was not good. Good interview here, Pat being down to earth here!
i agree
My Dad actually trained Pat Smith for the first UFC, you can see him behind Pat when he walks into the ring.
Back then he was doing boxing matches, and was very good. UFC was still new, so ground game wasn't really something a lot of people knew about, except the wrestlers.
That's cool, UFC 1 where it all began, Pat Smith was one of the fighters I really enjoyed watching, shame there are not many interviews of him now, as he did a lot boxing, MMA, kickboxing & Karate & of course was in the first UFC, fought legends like Andy Hug, Ken Shamrock, Kimo & Royce Gracie.
This is my uncle. I see him all the time.
Yeah he touches little girls too. He is a bitch and is dead now
Rip to the underrated legend
Not underrated, just poor decisions. He was a sex offender and that ruined him
There was nothing underrated by one of my old instructors. You just didn't know about him.
@@MH-zg5yw he wasn't a sex offender. I was there along with two other young men. We met these young ladies who was working as dancer's in a fully-nude strip club called "Saturday's". Which the club also got sued and temporarily closed for trafficking underage girl's. Pat decided to represent himself instead of getting an attorney thinking it would be an open and shut case. It was crazy because they dismissed all 3 of us as witnesses. Including the two other dancer's that were 18 and 19.
@@quinnchilds914 in 1999 he was convicted in Colorado of sexually assaulting a 14 year old.
Not sure how you don't consider that not being a sex offender.
The guy was a full on convicted sex offender.
in 2008 he was arrested for failing to register as a sex offender in Denison Texas
Old school mma legend. The toughest fighter from the early ufc days. That fight with Scott Smith was brutal!
Scott Morris exactly
Definitely
Pàt Smith is both an early UFC and K-1 legend. A lot of props to him he was very close to winning against Ken and has some notable wins against top fighters both in early K1 and UFC.
When was he very close to winning against Ken?
Ken was in full control in that fight with Smith and would have won everytime. Both Shamrocks were excellent in submission grappling.
PAT SMITH THE LEGEND ❤️👍💪
Pat was an
Old school mma legend - I wish the interviewer would have asked Patrick about the incident with Tank Abbott at ufc 6
I just remember thinking he looked like a mean dude. He didn't disappoint.
My favorite all time MMA fighter
Pat Smith seems a great guy. He needs to do a book, he's an old school MMA legend.
Guys, respect someone that's been around before we all ever heard of MMA. With such a brutal and scary name like this youtube poster has you must understand that he is correct. You can tell by the quality of the language that this is a deep thinker and real fight scholar.
I remember first time I saw him UFC 2. He was cocky and I didn't like him. All these years later....nothing but respect sir you were a trailblazer. R.I.P
Quel dommage qu'il nous ai quitté si tôt.
C'était un grand combattant...
Il mérite sa place dans les légendes de l'UFC.
MERCI PATRICK !
Rest in peace Pat.
Pat Smith was awesome
R.I.P. Patrick Smith
pat smith was actually not a bad fighter.. sadly he didnt keep up in K1 hope you still be good.
I would have asked him if he ever felt bad after he destroyed someone. Like what he did to Scott Morris.
I would ask Scott if he regrets ever fighting in the UFC.
I am not fully sure the exact diagnosis, I was already divorced from his oldest son at that time. When I got the call to say goodbye, and was told the cancer was in his bladder. HIs kidney's started failing and that's when he found out it was cancer. Passed on about a week after his diagnosis.
Patrick was exciting thank you :::
Great interview, but I thought it was somewhat rude that you tended to constantly interrupt Pat before he was finished with his answers. I think you should focus on at least giving them a few more seconds to finish up their answers and a few more seconds of silence afterwards before continuing with more questions.
Just a few suggestions. Thank you very much for sharing, though. Pat is a true legend of the sport, even if he isn't often mentioned or remembered by some.
RIP Patrick. 🙏
I wanna know what happend with Scott Morris afterwards!
He eats threw a straw now
@@enlightenedwarrior7119 Damn!
Repose en paix champion,tu était le meilleur patrick
Pats my next door neighbor.
@sneksnekitsasnek he did in 2019
haha he called Johnny Rhodes, Randy Rhoads. (Ozzy guitarist)
Bahahaha it got me too bro! I'
kickin Scott Morris Ass at UFC 2 was one hell of a brutal KO
Please Pat Smith/Ken Shamrock number 2! Would love to see that, both more or less are the same age, build, height & Ken in recent years is more of a stand up fighter, so should make for an interesting fight, but I think Pat would probably TKO Ken. That fight would make sense for both these fighters to retire on, as they began UFC together.
Ha! I knew it! I remember arguing with a bud watching the very 1st UFC and yelling “ he’s trying to break his friggin’ toe!” He was like no way, man! That’s some kinda martial art technique! Took almost 3 decades but CONFIRMED! Lol
I would say Pat Smith was the best fighter to not win a tournament/title in the very early UFC's.
Legend
Dude was a MONSTER in the Cage.
R.I.P Patrick Smith
Weird to see this guy actually being humble
What else could he do? He ended up being a nobody.
I have respect for Pat just cause I watched him in the early UFC's.....But remember it wasnt mma then...It was Style vs Style...Nevertheless Pat had some of the most exciting fights in the early days. Especially the fight with Pat Morris at UFC 2....
It was Scott Morris, you dumb ass. And that was not an exciting fight, it was an one side brutal beat down.
@@hectorl4487 chill lol
rip pat fr jp
@Vigilronald Do you mean mess guys up in the ring, or, elsewhere?
rematch bellator pat smith vs gracie
If Bellator can do Shamrock vs Kimbo they should do a Shamrock vs Smith 2
"I can roll you up right now" lol, what was happening at the start?
R.I.P
I feel ya man.
Did he say "the third bout with Randy Rhodes"? I think Pat is coked the fuck out here.
@mhopper1000 the new UFC's suck so bad. The old school was the way to go. But Pat Smith was a nasty fighter. I was happy when he was tooled by Royce.
Nasty and a coward. He brutalized Scott Morris but tapped like a bitch when Royce was barely hitting him with his open hand. Same he did with Kimo. Just a coward, dirty and forgetable fighter. Notorious for his nasty tactics.
@@hectorl4487 nasty tactics ? No rules lol
HBO better hurry up, and make a Documentary; Before someone else gets the script!
@Pitbull81InsaneKilla any one who got into a ring with the likes of ken shamrock,Royce Gracie or kimo with the rules the way the were back then is a true warrior,a true legend and a true pioneer of the sport that we all love,stop talking shit about the guy..you think you`d take him??
Agreed
Steel Kuntry &/or Patrick Brown is my ex-husband damn near identical to his dad.
yea when you need a roomate at his age u know his life aint going so well
Yeah, that made me sad.
I still have never heard of Nikolai.
This the dude that claimed 250-0
He called out, Kimbo; Once?!!! ... IFMAO! ... Pat, Would've killed, Kimbo! (But Maybe Not?!! ... Pat, Was old; By then?!)
@double42 no way someone else named pat smith in the world
RIP Pat What the hell happened bud?
4:32 Randy Rhoads!???
Turns out Patrick Smith was a skinner
Bro my mom dated him
Mike tyson😂😂
@double42 Maybe he attacks children because that's the only people he can beat these days.
UFC legend...ya ok
Yeah he is. To have 4 fights in one day when there were hardly any rules and win 3 out of 4. He's one of the early pioneers. He was there making shit happen that led to the fighters you rate.
Yep. I've been watching since 93. I agree that he was one of the better fighters back then, and a pretty tough guy. But "legend" doesn't fit to me. Then you gotta call Keith Hackney, Dave Beneteau, and Jason Delucia legends.
He is not a legend at all. He was just part of a crowd of idiots that went inside the octagon to brutalize each other without any idea of what a ground game was. I remember how he brutalized Scott Morris, but how quickly he tappep out when Royce was barely hitting him with his palm and the same he did with Kimo. The guy was a coward. These "legends" were cherry picked because the Gracies wanted just the fights they thought they could win to cement their "legacy". Ken Shamrock, he was one of the few legit fighters in those early and stupid tournaments. Ruoas, Shamrock, Sakuraba. Those are the legends. If he were a legend he wouldn't had ended up being a nobody.
@Hectorl4487
People did have ground game skills then, not everyone had them but people still had grappling and ground skills. When he fought Royce Gracie he didn't tap the towel was thrown also Gracie was punching not palm striking him. Patrick Smith may not be a all time MMA fighter but he was a skilled and accomplished fighter. Shut the fuck up you retarded bitch Patrick Smith is a underrated legend .
@@hectorl4487 He is a legend. He was one of my instructors from '93 to '97. He was a big brother to most that knew him in the community. Let's meet up and see how much disrespect you have for him after I get done with you. He was Heavyweight champion of Sabaki long before UFC, chump.
the point is this. he is a good fighter, but NOT A LEGEND.. he isnt in the hall of fame he isnt a champion and never has been.. NOT A LEGEND.. thats the only point im trying to make
не чемпион но легендарен...
не спорта ради зрелища для!
So we're all just pretending that he wasn't arrested for what he was arrested for, then?
Okay.
Head in the sand, lalala, nothing to see here...
no one is pretending anything no one is hiding anything under sand. as far as me myself go im not gonna pretend or lalalal anything. im dissapointed that he did what he did but im not gonna sit here and pretend that he wasnt good fighter couse he was.
@@snowwhitever2336 cool man, good to know someone can sexually assault a child but you're still going to fly the flag for how good a fighter the guy was (20 wins, 17 losses MMA, 5 wins, 11 losses Boxing doesn't sound like a good record to me, but we've already established we have very different views on what makes someone good).
We should be worried that someone commits a sexual crime against a child and your reaction is, "Well that's disappointing."
@@JamesMMcCann didnt i say that im not defending hes actions . didnt i say that . did i pretend it did not happen. did i do it. idc whats good record for u. idc of ur dissapointed . i litearlly went over this topic. read my comment again kay thanks bye.
@@JamesMMcCann im dissapointed that he did what he did . clearly that quote from me doesnt give it away.....
ur mad couse u lost the debate. obviously i hate him for doing what he did. never did i defend him or hes actions. he killed hes career and himself with smoke tobacco and he is prob in hell now. unless ur one of those boring and realistic atheist then he prob isnt . @@JamesMMcCann
I hate to tell u but Pat Smith is NOT A UFC OR MMA LEGEND.. he was a mediocre fighter with NO GROUND GAME... LEGEND MY ASS!
Legend. Long before UFC he was world Heavyweight champion of the Sabaki and underground tournament the "Katuki". He was one of my instructors from '93 to '97 and I promise if he was still alive you wouldn't have said that to his face nor my face internet tough guy.
Pat Smith is NOT a legend.. His only claim 2 fame, is getting Heel Hooked by Ken Shamrock!!
He knocked out Andy Hug
Постарел в свое время борзый был бил и чёрных и белых.
IS HE DEAD? ... WTF
kimbo is ded and pat is ded everyone ded :(
He was hardly a legend...
He wasn't. Just part of the crew of idiots that went inside the octagon to brutalize each other without any idea of what was going on. Gracies chose them because they represented not treat for them and their "legacy".
@@hectorl4487 Actually for the time Patrick Smith was a pretty well rounded fighter. He had experience of boxing and kickboxing, knew of grappling and given the opportunity his offense was devastating.
@@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207 What did he know about grappling? How to stay in the guard and throw kicks to the kidneys Royce's way? He did not know any submissions and his wrestling was non existent. Ruas was a round fighter, but guess what? He was not invited to participate. At least not when the Gracies were in control of the tournament.
@@hectorl4487 I said knew of. Pay attention. Royce was just a grappler with terrible striking. Pat Smith was proficient at various styles of striking and knew some basic grappling.
How did he win two of his fights in UFC 2?
Who would YOU say was well rounded for the time?
@@davidgriffithsbjjcoach7207 I already told you, read the message above.
man he looks terrible
@grinchy01... well let me see.. JUST BECAUSE HE STEPPED INTO THE CAGE, doesnt make him a legend.. I think you are very misguided on what a "Legend" is.. I was an early participant and he did take part in the forming of the sport of MMA, but you give far far too much credit to him.. and YES, I CAN BEAT HIM..
Stfu
Who are you ?
He's not a legend!
yes he is!
Shut up fool.
i let cat out of the bag. im dissapointed that patrick of smith raped 14 yo girl. some say we dont know what the sytuation was. idk it either and idc he raped 14 yo girl. there is no defending it no justifyng it. not for me. he also failed to register as se x offender in 2008. its terrible it sucks im dissapointed. also i aknowledge him as a fighter and karate and ufc guy. alot of people talk down hes skills and atchievements. they underestimate and underrate him. i think patrick smith as a fighter was better than most peopple specially haters think and say he is. he could have showed so mutch more in ring if he didnt die so soon. he is inspiring fighter and in sabaki he did some bloodsport type of stuff . he had alot of heart. unsure about that andy hug fight that he won but still i think he was good and fighter with heart. sure he was no peter cunningham or andy hug eventho he had good axe kicks and karate going for him. he had indimitating looks too. sad that he passed so soon and that 14 yo girl stuff too what i cant ignore or downplay . or justify. wont do it cant do it sorry. it will forever stain hes legacy as person and fighter sadly. all i can do is be as fair as i can about the guy. wont sit here either and dehumanize him and call him pred or whatever and say under every fight he lost wow glad he got knocked out pred had it coming. all i can do is to be fair and say it happened. idk why it did but it did. wont dehumanize him and wont act as if he was this big monster couse there are worsepeople out there. sure he falt bad about it till hes last day too. i also honor and see hes legacy as martial artist and fighter with heart. its all i can and have to say for now.
He wasn't a sex offender. She was 17 years old when we would all hang out. We didn't know that was her real age due to her fake ID which said "she was 21". I was there along with two other young men. We met these 3 young ladies who was working as dancer's in a fully-nude strip club called "Saturday's". One 21 actually [17], 18 and 19 years of age. The club also got sued and temporarily closed for trafficking underage girl's. It was reopened because it was sold. The reason why Pat was convicted is because he decided to represent himself instead of getting an attorney thinking it would be an open and shut case. It was crazy because they dismissed all 3 of us as witnesses. Including the two dancers she hung with that were 18 and 19. The other two dancers even claimed that the 17yr would always purchase then liquor due to the fake ID.
@@quinnchilds914 thats cool you cleared it out . i wasnt like other people u see in comment section talking bad of him just to talk bad of him or judging him. i respect him as fighter he was. but i did not wanna ignore the cat in the bag . this info is also in hes wikipedia article this 14 yo girl rpe thing. so its public info. open or shut case or not it isnt adviced to be your own lawyer. young 17 yo girls have fake ids and lie theyr age at its scary. alot of 13 yos could pass ass 18 yos and when they lie theyr age and have fake ids too its even worse. terrible as the witnesses were just ignored like it was nothing. i myself have ben falsly accused . more of haresment of adult woman i didnt haress but still so i can tell how bad it can be when you are accused of something ur not and didnt do and when bunch of people still spread lies. i was not found guilty of haresment i didnt commit but there are still people who spread lies and act as not quilty vertic means nothing. also if cops came to me they were so sure i was guilty. the person who framed me got away and they didnt find the person or people. or they didnt wanna find them who did it. but cool that someone finally cleared the air on this on.
@@snowwhitever2336 Respect. I just wanted to clear these false allegations up. I'm sick of people throwing dirt on him when they weren't there.
@@quinnchilds914 true . he was talented fighter sad that he stopped fighting it seems before hes passing like more then year before whatever happened with fighter he trained and who was hes roommate,
@@snowwhitever2336 he was one of my instructors from '93 to '97. Everyone has their secrets but pedophilia wasn't one of his.
legend? lol gracie destroyed him
Pat would roll you up right now. Whatever that means......
@• AzzA • they fabricated their own "legacy" choosing the fights they could win until they were exposed by more rounded fighters like Sakuraba. Revisionism has shown that the Gracies were nothing but arrogant cowards and they are not even liked in their own country.
He is a legend and Gracie destroyed everybody LOL Gracie in my opinion is the greatest ever in the UFC but Pat Smith is definitely a legend all of those old school OG fighters had to fight any and everybody no matter what the weight class was it was crazy
Royce Gracie destroyed nearly everyone. Just because Royce Gracie beat him doesn't mean he isn't a legend
R.I.P. Pat Smith
Legend