Untold Pacific History: Episode 5 - Fiji / The colonial forces that shaped modern Fiji

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  • Опубліковано 22 чер 2021
  • In this episode we will examine how and why Indian populations were brought to Fiji, and how the inequities under the colonial government’s ‘Girmit’ system, created a society of instability and countless coups.
    This episode delves into the legacy of the colonial history that underpins much of the racial disharmony in modern day Fiji, and some of the fraught factors that have led to the migration of Indo-Fijian and indigenous Fijian communities to Aotearoa.
    Made possible by the RNZ / NZ on Air Innovation Fund
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  • @nikeeddie9430
    @nikeeddie9430 2 роки тому +55

    As indigenous Fijian, please everyone respect everyone in Fiji. Fijian Indian a part of Fijian, Chinese Fijian a part of Fijian. Melanesian and Polynesian a big part of Fijian. Do respect each other every body. God bless.

  • @myztroogeegibson3568
    @myztroogeegibson3568 6 місяців тому +5

    From your distant cousin in Africa 🇬🇭 love you all Fijis...

  • @wisper1169
    @wisper1169 2 роки тому +12

    Indo Fijian, Fijian ,Chinese, Indian Fijian your are all Fijian showing love from Micronesia 🇫🇲.

    • @nikeeddie9430
      @nikeeddie9430 2 роки тому +2

      Wisper. Thank you. Bula vinaka my Micronesian brother and sisters. Love you all.

  • @footballfanstyleonye
    @footballfanstyleonye 9 місяців тому +7

    Just binge watched all 5 episodes. As a random Canadian with no idea of these histories, these mini docs were very informative and very well made! Thank you

  • @nate1458
    @nate1458 3 роки тому +18

    This documentary is so beautiful😢 Vinaka na vosota Viti, things will get better❤️🇫🇯🙌🏼

  • @smatainisiga5544
    @smatainisiga5544 Рік тому +9

    Better to work together..respecting each other , collectively..while at the same time acknowledging the very differences that make us unique..2 major ethnic groups working together as one

  • @peletipoutasi7869
    @peletipoutasi7869 3 роки тому +29

    Wow interesting 🤔lots of mix blood in the pacific. Chinese, india, German, European.

  • @eferemochristopherkubunava1143
    @eferemochristopherkubunava1143 3 роки тому +30

    This was a well put together and presented documentary

  • @deevuga7481
    @deevuga7481 3 роки тому +2

    Vinaka....love this ❤

  • @jo3tukaigelei64
    @jo3tukaigelei64 3 роки тому +9

    "Hopefully, things will get better". Vinaka!

    • @seru9668
      @seru9668 3 роки тому +7

      With the covid in our mist, I smell turmoil smoking around the conner 👊

  • @tavioka6243
    @tavioka6243 Рік тому +4

    This kinda hurts my feelings! As a pacific islander we do fight with other islands & make sure the people frm that island comes over to work for "our" chief(s)" once they become people of our lands we have no other choice but to keep them as "people of the land" meaning they are they same people as the "people of the land"

  • @mikeoxmaul5465
    @mikeoxmaul5465 3 роки тому +43

    Military culture wasn’t imported, Fiji was always a warrior country

    • @newideas5572
      @newideas5572 3 роки тому +18

      Exactly! These UA-cam channels want us to identify as slaves like African Americans
      ... we should never remember that we always had a rich warrior culture..

    • @surrealentertainment9558
      @surrealentertainment9558 3 роки тому +1

      @@newideas5572 True

    • @francois9747
      @francois9747 3 роки тому +16

      The warrior culture of Fiji adopted Military culture is what they're trying to say.

    • @ronaldpuran4271
      @ronaldpuran4271 2 роки тому

      @@newideas5572 It was the Indians that were treated like slaves similar to African Americans however I'm not comparing African Americans because I respect where they come from and what they have been through. Fiji can NEVER be a rich warrior culture! Fiji doesn't belong to i-Taukei or anyone else, this nation only belongs to Lord Jesus Christ! SO don't be so dumb to take what is God's we are here like stewards!

    • @lionzion1879
      @lionzion1879 2 роки тому +3

      @@ronaldpuran4271 man stop with your mumbling bull crap. These land has nothing to do with God but thr people. We are Fiji and no God will solve our problems but ourselves

  • @samuuluinavucu1246
    @samuuluinavucu1246 3 роки тому +16

    Add up all the Coups & analyze the benefisaries.

  • @Runitup84
    @Runitup84 3 роки тому +3

    This will be a good one

  • @tavioka6243
    @tavioka6243 Рік тому +1

    The last song took me away i cried

  • @chrisredi6383
    @chrisredi6383 3 роки тому +23

    Interesting, but would have been nicer if it included the expert opinions of Prof. Brij Lal and Prof. Steven Ratuva.

  • @simeontolotu3679
    @simeontolotu3679 2 роки тому +10

    I loved that even through all that , George Spade still remained an all blacks fan 😂 lol

    • @nikeeddie9430
      @nikeeddie9430 Рік тому +2

      Hey bro, someone has to George spade out from there. I wish I live in Fiji, but I'm in overseas. If I'm still in Fiji 4 sure I will get him out. George is the man and I still support him.all the way.

  • @DT7w8
    @DT7w8 Рік тому +1

    Fiji's problem was identified by the late Ratu Kamisese Mara, the racial tension but in all his education and privilidges and how he was raised and formulated his political ideologies he did not have a clear plan on how to formulate a clear vision for Fiji. Well he knew what was going on in other countries like Malaysia and Singapore but did not learn from what they did and build a better Fiji or set a clear vision of what Fiji is to become. The English also did not leave him with a clear plan as they were a receding power who had run out of ideas of how to develop a new nation, this is very unfortunate indeed. Well now its 2023 and it nearly 40 years after 1987 Rabuka's coup and now he is in power as the PM of a Coalition Government. What has he learnt from all that time observing what Fiji can do. He can do no harm but really reform the Economy to what it has which is enormous arable land that must be developed to produce other agricultural products that can be processed and value add right here in Fiji. Learn from South East Asia and really do what we have not done in the last 50 years.

  • @manfredamann137
    @manfredamann137 3 роки тому +3

    Oh I see the announcement before publication.. !!!

  • @niugasau3887
    @niugasau3887 2 роки тому +10

    And than Bainimarama ruined everything again💀

  • @surrealentertainment9558
    @surrealentertainment9558 3 роки тому +11

    wellei o lecturer with his black panther party T-shirt

  • @jessicam.3689
    @jessicam.3689 Рік тому

    What is the name of the song at the end credits?

  • @littlellama8405
    @littlellama8405 9 місяців тому +3

    @mike, You're conflating two distinctively different security ideologies. Military isn't warrior. Warriors don't have a written ethos that serve only the elite. British military culture exploited Fijian warrior culture. That, might be a better extrapolation. But no, we were not running around killing our own kin.
    So much is left out of history, Thomas Baker was killing people around Fiji and his army burning children, its well documented. Another thing is this documentary is incorrect about how the British wanted to preserve natives by isolating them from Indians. They wanted to isolate natives from each other so there wouldn't be an uprising. All the while they were taking native men (for tax evasion apparently) - to work on the British roads. Then they would decimate the entire village and move their children and women to other villages. Very few of the villages in Naitasiri are over 150 years old. Those are all new. Fijians were not allowed out of villages. You required a pass from the government. So many Fijian men died that Sir Arthur Gordon had to revise the tax codes in Fiji, basically for one, there wasn't a way to people to really pay tax, *??* secondly, people were getting suspicious and uprisings were common. Just have a look at the population, 60,000 Indians, minus 25,000, Fiji had around 150,000. Then somehow just a few decades later Indians are majority, and only now are indigenous ahead again by a small margin. Where did all the natives go? - well they died building roads and plantations. This is never taught. Why? Firstly, we don't have a culture of bitching, we accept our history and move on. But if we want to get into it, well its Jesus that hid what happened. Ordinance 29 allowed Christians to kill anyone with 'big hair' (a sign of non conformity). This is where we get the ibore - ulu levu. (Its not big head its big hair) Its also related to the ibore - ulu maquru, ulu whatever - . This was a propaganda to dehumanize highlanders who did not want to convert to Christianity, which at the time meant spiritual and cultural conversion by force. Which was spearheaded by Tongans and guns (Christians). Lotu wasn't a good word back than. This is where 'sulu vaka Toga and Dabe vaka Toga' come from. Because those were the uniforms and seating position in the churches. (not much space and no furniture). So yes interior Fiji still has a fear of the coastal Fiji and their doings. Much of 'Fiji' history that is taught is coastal history. Customs etc, those are just Bau and Suva coast histories and culture. Very different elsewhere. Anyway, the point is that its a lot more complicated than it seems. And we are not a culture of coup people because of our 'warrior culture'. It is indeed because of colonial and outside influences. But hey, toso tiko ga set tu. Lets just do better.

  • @jacenath8197
    @jacenath8197 3 роки тому +59

    I’m usually a fan of the Coconet’s content, but this video wasn’t it for me. Unfortunately this video is quite biased and divisive. It doesn’t show the full story of the events that took place in Fiji, nor does it take into account the Indo-Fijian perspective. The video also makes it seem as if Indians generally came to Fiji on their own volition, when in reality, most Indians were coerced, kidnapped, or tricked into leaving their ancestral homelands. Overtime Indo-Fijians have become an important part of the Fijian society and the people generally are more United than this video makes it seem.

    • @faataupati
      @faataupati 3 роки тому +21

      I guess that’s probably why the opening description states that “these are just a few perspectives in the many complexities that this nation has faced over the years”.

    • @codebluek3430
      @codebluek3430 3 роки тому +12

      That point deserves a video on its own because of its complexities, however, the topic they are focusing on is the Fiji Coup Culture

    • @mdee9337
      @mdee9337 2 роки тому +7

      These Series are about the indigenous people of the Pacific, not Indo Indians

    • @ronaldpuran4271
      @ronaldpuran4271 2 роки тому +1

      I absolutely agree with you @Jace Nath this unfair and biased judgment and treatment from British and i-Taukei has shown their real colour and perspective.

    • @trishabidesi8604
      @trishabidesi8604 2 роки тому +8

      @@ronaldpuran4271 Oh for petes sake, Indians have a rich history, whereby they can connect to India, their religion etc. FIJIANS HAVE THEIR LITTLE FIJI, LET THEM HAVE THEIR SHINE.

  • @presidential-gaming5513
    @presidential-gaming5513 2 роки тому +5

    We thank the British empire for shaping my Fiji. Coups happened and we get over it. We are a independent nation. Races will be there. Races will be always a major challenge.

    • @teamthoth
      @teamthoth 11 місяців тому

      British molested my island too..... Life goes on

  • @jt0774
    @jt0774 2 роки тому +5

    India wouldn't have taken in thousands of Fijians

    • @Peter-zv4dx
      @Peter-zv4dx 2 роки тому +4

      Taken in? Lol you mean tricked on a promise they would be returning home one day!!

  • @IrshadAli-cq5dt
    @IrshadAli-cq5dt 2 місяці тому

    Some comments are hurtful. No one talks about how Indian laborers were mistreated by the colonial masters.

  • @beadingbusily
    @beadingbusily 18 днів тому

    Text is communication, and that font doesn't work.

  • @ulaiasi8173
    @ulaiasi8173 Рік тому +2

    CO-EXSISTENCE IS THE KEY TO FIJI'S PROSPERITY

  • @setisuafa6588
    @setisuafa6588 Рік тому +1

    May our Heavenly Parent God guide the unity, harmony and development of Fiji. Interdependence, mutual Prosperity and Universally shared values is needed.
    Governance by the gun limits all three. Much more inter-marriage would help.

  • @seru9668
    @seru9668 3 роки тому +7

    Anyone thinks this current GOVT will still hold up against the virus??

    • @josefanaini5743
      @josefanaini5743 3 роки тому +2

      As long as there is law and order

    • @supakuwaii770
      @supakuwaii770 3 роки тому +7

      what law and order? all corruption !!

    • @seru9668
      @seru9668 3 роки тому +2

      @@josefanaini5743 care to explain further

    • @whakaoriori9366
      @whakaoriori9366 3 роки тому +1

      Virus lol

    • @ananaiasamataitoga467
      @ananaiasamataitoga467 3 роки тому +6

      The worst thing that can happen is another coup during this pandemic....We don't want to be the next Burma...That is why free and fair elections must be ensured and that there is no intervention from the Military!

  • @helenm.bordallo1789
    @helenm.bordallo1789 Рік тому +13

    Keep Fijian lands in Fijian hands

  • @lisamadan8011
    @lisamadan8011 Рік тому +6

    Fiji belongs to true blood of the people. Not the people that were brought onto the island.

    • @DeepVerma728
      @DeepVerma728 11 місяців тому +3

      To late for that my Grandma is a native Fijian. Which means I can own land.

    • @jabaltariq4606
      @jabaltariq4606 9 місяців тому

      @@DeepVerma728 Do you think Modi would allow hundreds of thousands of Black Africans to come yo India and own and control any economy in India?

    • @Tanoaproductionsfiji
      @Tanoaproductionsfiji Місяць тому

      Saying Fiji only belongs to the 'true blood' people and not to those who came later is unfair and divides people. It ignores the important contributions of many Fijians (in nationality) just because of their ancestry. Without those who came later and those who were there BEFORE the Fijians, Fiji would be a very different place. Considering that all humanity originally came from Africa, the country's identity is shaped by everyone who lives there, no matter where their families came from.

  • @LolomaAloo
    @LolomaAloo Рік тому +1

    i’m half itaukei fijian and half indo-fijian and my father was a part of some the last ku’s in fiji. I think the statement “hired for work in fiji” is completely biased and false, the indians that came to fiji were not paid and not willing. It was slavery with a different title

  • @paakak
    @paakak 2 роки тому +1

    lotta misinformation here

  • @lionslove779
    @lionslove779 Місяць тому

    Indian Fijians have a homeland in India indigenous Fijians homeland is in Fiji. Fiji is funny indigenous Black people.

  • @Gaijin_7
    @Gaijin_7 Рік тому +2

    Indians are Indo-Fijian and Chinese Chinese-Fijian. Fijians are the Itaukei. Keep it that way. ITAUKEI true owners of the Land.

  • @NasinuWarrior85
    @NasinuWarrior85 6 місяців тому

    Get ur facts right. Viti couldn't be colonized. The British administrators didn't pillage and loot our natural resource like they did in other nations. Seva na i naki. We consist of 215 autonomous interconnected vanua within the archipelago. Ancient relations exist, many lying dormant but alive. The British didn't have their way. Viti suffered its fair share of losses, damages and hurt. By 1970 Viti gained independence. But still the long reaching arms of the British empire was still here. They had set up schools that produced statesmen that perpetuated their political will. By 1987, we severed ties absolutely with the empire. Losing membership to the commonwealth but gaining sovereignty becoming a Republic. The British left our shores over a period of half a decade with their egos hurt. In Viti today we're still reconciling many things. One for sure are laws pre-1987 have to be revised.

  • @Godisgoodpraisegod
    @Godisgoodpraisegod 2 роки тому +1

    Stop acting like kids and imagine what China gonna do to your children and their fiji !!!!!

    • @emosijougavule2561
      @emosijougavule2561 Рік тому +3

      No worry, we got a new government now that can look into this issue, freedom at last for us Fijians😊

  • @coogs1163
    @coogs1163 2 роки тому

    Sleep well Tua Qarase

  • @vraifj6629
    @vraifj6629 2 роки тому +2

    Glory to Banimarama ✊🏼