Mastering Drainage & Threshold Installation: Step-by-Step Guide 🛠️💧
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- In this video, we will show you how to properly install drainage and thresholds in your home. Whether you're a DIY enthusiast or a professional contractor, this step-by-step guide will help you achieve a successful installation. We'll cover everything from selecting the right materials to preparing the surface, and we'll provide tips and tricks to ensure a seamless installation. With our expert guidance, you'll be able to improve the functionality and appearance of your home while preventing water damage and other issues. Don't miss out on this essential home improvement tutorial - watch now and learn how to install drainage and thresholds like a pro!
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Thanks for this video, I'm looking at doing a single run along the back of our house in a few months - new build house, lower than the slope of the back garden which has a lovely not at all absorbent clay mud beneath the turf. Heavy rain makes me a bit twitchy. Well done Taylor Wimpey... ;)
Wimpey. Stands for “We employ more paddies every year. “ lol good luck 👍🏴
Just used these drains on a job. Exactly the same install process. They are so much nicer then the bigger Aco drains, but a lot more expensive! Good work as always, love your videos
Thanks James and yes deafly more expensive but it does look so much better so that stuff from now on 👍🏴
Did you seal each joint or do they not need to be
@@pj-1888 we sealed each joint just to be sure
What a wicked video. Simple. Easy to follow. Did the job. Also, top marks sir for your delivery. 👍🏽
Glad you enjoyed the video thx for watching 👍🏴
Looks a good job well done love drainage work great video as usual 👏 look forward to next one
Cheers Paul nearly done just got 150 linear metres of double borders to cut first 😭👍🏴
Hey Scot hope your well bud looking forward to some good content this year 👍
I’ve got a beauty coming up in the summer outdoor cooking area pizza oven light fire water the whole 9 yards. Should be great 👍🏴
Hey Scotty boyo 👋🏼 as you know I'm a big fan of not only your work but your outlook too👍🏼👍🏼
Looking for to this year's awesome content 👏🏼 👌🏼
Thanks for that Tom hopefully this year I’ll get you involved in one of them 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping haha quite possibly matey....tea with two did you say 🤣🤣
Lovely job Scott.very informative video.
Cheers Dave for watching again mate much appreciated 👍🏴
Hi Scot great to see a work in progress.Great info look forward to the rest of the job tiles look top class.Chat soon
Cheers John yes mate plenty coming up just been a slow start to the year 👍🏴
Great work. Thank you for the tips
I’m here to help 👍🏴
Great insight as ever Scott. I’m thinking of laying a porcelain patio out the back of my house with tiles coming up above DPC of the house (to suit the height of the French door threshold). Do you think that channel drains would satisfy both drainage and surveyors requirements?
Should never be above dpc only level with it using a drainage system like I used there.
Last project I had a bifold door drainage section to do which had a tray I had to tile over and my solution was to keep the little vents free to drain through but cutting a section of tile away from this section and allow any possible water able to pass through. Any water which could possibly drain through would be so so little it would not make any difference and the bifold door should be taken off and renewed
Hopefully that helped 👍🏴
aluminium gratings are a nice touch
iv used stainless in my garden, looks so much better quality than plastic drainage
Never going back to plastic just looks cheap 👍🏴
great job you are doing there sir, easy to learn from. its funny whenever those flashes of 'ponker and twat' comes up
I just ignore them bla bla bla 👍🏴
Hi Scott, im thinking of fitting these wen I landscape my garden, do you need to seal the joints ? I wondered because the water will find its way through the joint without any sealant albeit minimal.
Keep up the good work 👍
Each section has a connector goes 100mm each way underneath so holds a good fit 👍🏴
Great vid love your work your another landscaper who inspired me to set up on my own
Love the ally drains used the plastic ones on my last job and they were a absolute nightmare
These are the best connectors I’ve seen so far anything to make your life easier and they look great too 👍🏴
Hi Scott, awesome video. Are these drains from polychannel by any chance? The ACO ones are slightly different to the ones in your video. Thanks.
Yes there is a poly channel ones much cheaper than the aco similar type apparently 👍🏴
Excellent!!!
Thanks mate glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏴
Hey, loving the videos, they've been super helpful, I have a question about drainage, do you find you have to get planning for this sort of thing? I was thinking of running one along the edge of my house for a new patio and connecting it to the drain where the gutter downpipe goes, but Google says this might actualy need planning? Any advice please? It's causing me a nightmare figuring out drainage! Just want to add, we can't have it running to a grass area because the lawn is on a slight slope towards where the patio would be, and we'll be putting some oak sleepers between lawn and patio, we could have a wide gravel trap I guess? I'm trying to avoid soakaways because it's quite heavy clay here and I'd have to dig it by hand... Sorry for long message, massive respect to you, thanks in advance.
Water running towards the house definitely connect up to any down pipe drains and I’ve never needed any planning permission ever so just crack on and go down that route I’d say 👍🏴
Great video, I am about to try something similar myself. Not an expert but trying to learn quickly! These videos are a godsend for us that like to have a go. Quick question, I have about 3 runs of 10m channel each, and its going to run into an existing rain water sewer pipe. Do I need to run the channels into a gulley to catch all the crap, or do they need to go into a sump at each vertical drain point, or is it all good to send straight into the rainwater system? its going to be paved all around the house. Cheers!
Definitely into a gully first to stop all the crap like leaves and stuff 👍🏴
Brilliant stuff buddy. What's this stuff called again? Do you have a link?
Glad you liked it Polychannel 👍🏴
AHA! I remember Scott! How could I forget! I worked with him donkeys ago on Velindre hospital, I was the noob forklift driver that did destroy a rather large wall but it wasn't one of his. But I'm sure if it was his wall he'd have been ok with it. We went out on the lash (I specifically remember he loved that term) in Cardiff too, I didn't put my hand in my pocket and got absolutely obliterated and sent home in a taxi to the Rhondda. 👍😁😂
Great to see you, buddy. New subber👍
Cheers Carlton velindre hospital now that was a while ago before I went to America to live 🤩 great memory 👍🏴
With the wider channel drains like ypud put at the end of a driveway, what would you use instead of plastic? I only know of the stone type with metal grills but was told that they crack easy
Marshall’s actually sell a hollow brick paver type and looks pretty cool not used them yet but know plenty that have. 👍🏴
Hi Scott
Great work. do you need to use a p trap or gully with the channel drains.
Just needed a 4” pipe the polly channel attachment linked to the fresh water pipe 👍🏴
great video, Im just about to do something simular but simpler. im planning on sealing my joints with Stixall sealent, would you advise sealing joints?
also what mix are you bedding down with?
thanks for sharing your knowlage
It heard of that sealant but yes it is advisable but they do click together really well and it was a sharp sand cement mix 4/1 👍🏴
Hi Scot, quick question about the levelling. Did you levelled them flat or on a slight slope to allow water flowing down the main pipe?
All laid flat no fall. The internal depth is 100mm so it’ll find it’s own way out before it could fill up. 👍🏴.. the only part that had a fall was the section where the house went inwards as the tiles needed to have a fall still otherwise always level
Hi pal.. what would u recommend on the slurry stuff for back of porcelain tile and a porcelain stihl saw blade, and do u think screed from a concrete plant is ok for laying porcelain on? Cheers
You can buy slurry from quite a lot of merchants and the porcelain blade for the stihl saw perfect.
Problem with the screed it’s semi dry a wet bed is preferable but screed still fine otherwise 👍🏴
Just watching your videos in preparation for my patio install this summer. I want my porcelain patio to be a near level threshold with extension/bi fold doors. The bi-fold threshold/sill was installed slightly below internal floor level & dpc on the outside course for this purpose.My question is in relation to having my patio only 30mm below dpc. Have you done this in the past? Can I just run these drainage channels around the perimeter of the extension?
Obviously there will be a fall away from extension and there is an overhang on the roof of extension. Just thinking about not causing damp problems
Good question Carl I’ve got a job like that coming up shortly and there’s lots of information out there but I’m sure you would be able to run threshold drain along the house for sure the only section which is tricky is the door because the door has its own water vent as well..
I’m not 100% sure myself exactly the right way to do it because somebody will always moan and I’ll be filming it so I will expect people to chip in as well tough call good question👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping will be interesting to see your video on that job.
The company that fitted the bifold did fit the bifold “I think” around 50mm ,(will have to check)down on the outside course so bringing the patio near internal floor level and below dpc but obviously not the standard 150mm down.
As I have an overhang around 500mm on the flat roof not that much water runs down the bifolds anyway.
I think I will maybe fit the threshold channels all the way around as a precaution. The walls are water proofed rendered also.
I was thinking about a gravel channel but any water would sit against the house , not sure that’s good
Really appreciate your replies to all my questions
Thanks
@@carlflay431 You’re right about the gravel channel water will just sit there anyways regarding the thresholds they were the company from that video they do all sorts
www.polychannel.co.uk/
Keep me informed 👍🏴
I wish you would show the actual connection of the drainage pipes, it would be a big help.
Wish I had a camera man with me 👍🏴
Scott, big fan and fellow Cardiffian now living on the south coast of England (don't hold it against me!) - but watching your videos make me feel like I'm back home! Quick question, in this video you are laying the "Not-ACO" along the side of the house. I've been told that the patio should slope away from the house so had intended to put the ACO along the far side of the patio and then run a drain pipe back through a trough to meet up with the gutter drain on the house side. I'd prefer to have the ACO next to the house like you have done - are there any disadvantages to having the patio slope towards the ACO next to the house rather than away from it?
Hi Andy thanks for watching memories of home and as for the drainage channel normally I prefer to work without them if possible as I prefer to direct water away from the house but on this occasion I had no choice. Aco should always be level to the house then run water the opposite directions asap 👍🏴
Does the aco drain have mortar, sealant between it and the wall, or does it not require anything between the aco and the wall? Thanks great video
Same answer 🏴🏴
Hi - thanks for the video. Question, my builder has run the acco's directly into a new 4 inch sewer pipe that goes to a pump with a non return valve. He assures me it won't smell later but I'm not convinced. Is there anything I can do to minimise the chances of this happening? Thanks in advance!
Yeh dont pay him fully until your sure by using the loo and doing a smell test yourself 👍🏴
Lovely job.
Have you got any advice on what filler to use between limestone pavers, an aco drain (like yours) and bifolds please? We think we need something that has some flex due to different elements moving at different rates ie normal grout not suitable as it may crack!
Silicone apparently 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping okay great, thanks
Great work mate. I have a quick question. Would those work well with the Indian sandstone pavers? Or is the edge not going to be smooth enough? Thanks in advance
Yes they do act the same no issues same set up 👍🏴
This video has been a great help to us! Where did you buy the “aco” not aco. Can only find plastic bottomed ones online
Polychannel they came from hope that helps 👍🏴
If the manhole is where your coffee is on, why the junction connector is facing the other way? should it not flow the way the manhole is like you dummy it up at 1.37?
Love your videos. Quick Question on this product... when the channels are clicked into the connector, how are they sealed? All I can see is just two plastic surfaces touching, no rubber gasket or sealant applied? surely this would leak like a sieve ?
No doesn’t come with anything that is how it’s sold no need to seal it is a really good connection I must omit 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping Hi Scott. I've just found the installation instructions on their website for this ACO Threshold drain, and it does actually specify using sealant for a water-tight installation. See section 7 of the instructions. I'm not trying to be a smart-arse here, just passing on the information. It really is in small print, and not mentioned on the ACO web pages which are just marketing stuff. - All the best, still watching your channel :-)
@@tobyhallam4750 thanks for clearing that up for me Toby well I never I’ll look into it and make sure I’ve got the sealant next time.
Thanks again Toby much appreciated mate 👍🏴
Good workmanship
Thanks Brett glad you enjoyed it 👍🏴
Superb buddy thanks 🙏🏻
Just working on the main video now 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping
Looking forward to it Scott boy 😁
Great vid! 💪 Can you tell me where you bought the drainage channels please?
Polychannel 👍🏴
Would you use a sealant at the join between the exterior wall and the drain ????
You could do yes but very Important something goes in there otherwise water will 👍🏴
hi, great job, well done, so tight to fit, question- did you apply for license from building control inspector? or we no longer required any permission for this work? thank you
No I didn’t and don’t have too but then I do it for a living not sure about a diy enthusiast 👍🏴
Excuse my ignorance but do you fit those with a fall or level?
Keep them at the same height throughout and then the pathway with fall towards it. 👍🏴
Great video but naff connector the provide at the top?
I thought the connectors were the best I’ve seen yet 👍🏴
you have way too many nice comments, so I want to complain, oh mixing up 45's and 90's, angry angry angry. haha, cracking job Scott 👌
Cheers Chris yeah I think I’m losing the plot slowly 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping Nah, quickly but well worth watching ☺
9:34 is it ok to cut the middle of the grid and fit an end cap to it or is there specific bits you can put end caps on
The end cap will fit wherever you like it’s universal 👍🏴
Using channel drains that do not have the correct size outlets or any seal where they meet 110mm underground pipes can cause major problems, if a blockage develops in the 110mm underground pipe all water will back up to the point where the channel drain simply sits over the underground pipe, this water will then leak out below the channel drain unnoticed soaking into the soil and gravel below ground level, the ground and walls will become saturated and can also cause house foundation to become unstable. the other problem with these channel drains they do not have any seals where each section butts together, so each of these joints will also let water escape into the ground below. Channel drains are ok for stopping puddling on paved areas where rain naturally falls, providing the water they collect does not escape into the ground close to any buildings. Roof down pipes should connect into110mm underground drainage pipes systems which are fitted with rubber seals on all joints.
Easy to unblock especially with the leave grate on top 👍🏴
The Chanel drain is like a Channel drain but smells better!
Hard to answer
Did you seal each joint so it's water tight or do you need to with these drains?
Apparently you are supposed to seal the joints but I only found that out after that project
Not worried as they were a snug click in type joint 👍🏴
Hi, Scott. I’m no landscaper but always curious how do you decide when to use channel drains? Are there regulations about it?
It all comes down to never having water running to the house if so then use a drainage channel. Or if your laying tiles at dpc height then you also need to protect the dpc by doing so.
Otherwise just let it drain to the grass area
Hope this helps 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping wow, so informative. Thank you very much for answering.
@@wayne3138 no worries I’m here to help 👍🏴
Hi there... Where can I get the aluminium drainage and corner fittings.
It’s called Polychannel great product 👍🏴
Hi mate, my name is Sam (excuse my jokey username btw 😂)and I'm new to the hard landscaping trade having come from the general gardening and soft landscaping trade mostly. I did some part-time labouring for a Marshalls Accredited landscaping firm years ago and I've been following your videos lately as I've found your work phenomenal as well as educational. I've starting off with smaller patios as well as basic driveways over the past year as I am not interested in general gardening work these days. I've recently looked at a job where the customer wants a little patio installing up against the house with the levels appearing to fall towards the house as opposed to the garden. I'm thinking aco drains as they would look the most aesthetically pleasing however as well as there being the main rainwater drain there is also their soil pipe drain up against the house where the patio falls meet. How do I work around this without damaging the soil pipe drain whilst installing the acos to fall into the main rainwater drain? I know it's meant to fall towards the rainwater drain however this wastewater drain is in the way. I'm not having any luck finding videos nor any clear info on the internet on how to do this properly and safely. Thanks! 😁
Hi Sam so I think I know what your saying as basically you’ve got a waste pipe against the house which is in the way of the aco.
Ok so leave that waste pipe alone and just work you aco”s against the waste pipe but have separate connector channels linking up together.
Either side of the waste pipe have 2 separate links connecting back together like the Y shape
Also like the spice girls song WHEN 2 BECOME ONE 😂👍🏴
Hope that helps
Have you ever installed these threshold drains higher to allow same floor height on patio as inside house level with the damp proof membrane? I’ve seen plenty of patios with bifold doors with patio at same height but seem to come across conflicting advice. Obviously you would ideally have a patio 2 bricks below DPM but with her mother being unsteady on feet and the baby is about to start learning to walk she wants bi fold doors and a patio that is the same level. I want to avoid damp in the house ... I’ve had a read through building regs and on paving expert and am still a little stumped patio will be falling away from house to a drain the other end of patio, would a line of these along house allow what she’s after?
It would be advisable to have one up against the house anyway for the water run-off from the building it’s a tough one but they’re not Lawes they’re only suggestions don’t forget 👍🏴
Cheers for the good work, I'm enjoying the videos & doing a patio project where it will fall away from the house but starting level is very close to the dpc so using a Dek drains edge slot as a threshold drain but what do you put between the drain channel & the wall? Did you fill the (small) gap with a bit of mortar, would you bitumen paint the wall from level with drain & below to help reduce any damp ingress? Any thoughts welcomed!
@@chrishuddleston1409 you could put some bitumen paint on I guess only if it was my own house I must say. And yeh fill the gap up less water keeping the fountains wet 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping many thanks for the speedy reply, its my own house so will do that as dpc is very close & for the extra time & a bit of money less hassle than getting damp! Keep up the good work 👍
Does a patio always have to fall away from the property? If I have acos next to the house
Yes only if the patio is at dpc height 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping oh ok so not essential if the patio and acos below the damp course?
@@bharetbhardwaj808 not really. I always try aim the water away from the house but if I can’t I use a aco.
You can tile right up to the house if your 150mm lower than dpc no issues 👍🏴
great apart from putting the T's the wrong way around
Apart from that all went well 😂 👍🏴
Do you need to install with fall this channels?
Thanks
No those channels are always level against the house 👍🏴
Try putting your junction around the right way
Well spotted my bad 😥 👍🏴
id of thought you need to seal the joints with silicone and have 4 inch adaptors for the outlet ??
You must of skipped that part then. I show it
These ACOs are also advertised for sliding/bifold doors but not really sure how they are supposed to be installed to collect any water coming from the bottom of the doors frame and also be flush with the doors threshold. Any ideas? Thanks
I’m doing exactly the same now with a customer and the conclusion was not to worry about and water coming out of the door as the solution cost a fortune and very complicated and anyways does any water actually come out of those drips ?
Anyways we’re going to lay tiles over the drip but leave a gap in the cement so if any did it would just drop down behind the aco.
Hope that puts your mind at ease it did mine 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping I just did an install like this, i used a soldering iron, bit of poly and made tiny drain channels from the acco to the weep vents. designer specced flush with bifolds. not much info out there on this but this was my fix.
@@JoshSmith-ud3qw I ended up laying a 60mm tile in this space and I ground the tile down where the vent was to allow water to travel under it through to the aco not when I grout it I’ll make sure this area is only grouted the depth of the tile for any possible water to drain. But such a little amount it’s just not worth worrying about or get a new door that’s working properly. 👍🏴
Be good to see some pics of the final result 👍🏻
@@JoshSmith-ud3qw I’ve seen that in one of the bifold express branches. How did it work out? Did you bond the aco to the base of the sliders to prevent water creeping between aco and the sliders? Thanks
Could you fit these just below dpc?
Yeh no worries it protects dpc 👍🏴
Tidy work again but for your angles 😂😂😂45/90 😂😂 looking forward to this years work mate 👍
Thanks Ken it’s been a bit of a slow start for me this year but got some great stuff lined up 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping looking forward to it 👍
Hi Scott, can you help please? Can the down pipes be connected into the channel drain and the Chanel drain use the existing 110 drain pipe? Thanks.
I may be not the best person to ask sorry
Y branch on the single side is going the wrong way, head it down stream with the flow.
Yes well spotted I watch the video back and noticed it myself stupid mistake but so little water going through that one channel I would dig it up otherwise 👍🏴
Do you need gully trap on those ?
Not necessarily 4 inch pipe works too just aim the outlet attachment in the right place job done 👍🏴
6:57 that equal Junctions flowing wrong way scotty lad :)
Yeah well spotted I only noticed it when you noticed it there is so little water going in there it’s only one channel otherwise I’d dig it up. 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping it will be right pal. its close to the gully
@@seanmcgrath9167 I think I’m losing the plot especially my 45’s and 90’s 😂 👍🏴
How u prevent mosquitoes orinlem with this sysrem?.
We don’t get mosquitoes over here but the drainage was linked into the fresh water drain system not the foul 👍🏴
shame they don't do an adapter to go on the drainage pipe
47 secs into it I show the connector 👍🏴
Doner (red cabbage and onions) no chilli, Mayo and chips. Feet up tidy bricks
Thanks Jon yeah man get comfortable 👍🏴
More coming up
@@tidybrickslandscaping 👍
Can I ask won't you still get smells, even though it's a rain water drain, as Gully's usually have traps on them, or is that because there multi use (Combined Systems) ?
It was a separate line to the foul the fresh water system we used 👍🏴
what stops the sewer smell coming up?
I selected the rainwater pipe not the foul 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping makes sense ....is it a soakaway?
could do with you coming to Yorkshire to do my driveway
@@markwho3018 go online type in local Marshalls Installer open the page enter your postcode and 10 Marshall installers is to your area will be available 👍🏴
Question. For anyone. I’m wanting to do this around whole of my property. Is there a way to work waste pipes and down pipes and vents etc rather than doing what’s done in this video or just stopping, then pipe the start again?? It looks horrid otherwise ???
Come on peeps help a fella out.
If your lucky enough you can tilt the patio away from the house which is best but otherwise this is the technique 👍🏴
8:01 how that connection will not have water leacking ?
Bit of silicone job done clips in nicely 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping good point. Maybe I missed this in the video
Why not link the thresholds drains into the downpipe outlets and then run the downpipes into the threshold drains?
Because one of the Down pipes didn’t line up with the threshold and it’s good to have options 👍🏴
Ah you'll be fine now you have your Zoe cutter back and raring to go 🙂
Fresh maintenance new blade rock ‘n’ roll 👍🏴
All good apart from the coffee
Nothing worse hey 👍🏴
90 you tw@ haha! Love your work dude, inspiring and funny as fuck.
Thanks Steve glad you enjoy my videos mate and yeah I think I’m losing the plot 👍🏴
Hey presto you put the t piece on the wrong way
Well spotted you one of the few that noticed my bad 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping sorry to pick a fault nice job otherwise , your video will help me do mine thanks . , it won’t make any difference it’s only rainwater . Easily done .
@@daraghevans7637 that’s what I thought it’s only rain water but still well spotted and hope your system install goes well 👍🏴
Deffo must have been a day rate job😂
Don’t know why you think that but no it was a price job rate 👍🏴
Slip collar
Yeah that’s the puppy 👍🏴 hate drainage
Got your T piece flowing the wrong way
Oh yeah somebody else noticed I hate drainage 😆 there’s gonna be so little water going in there it’s 1 channel only. Point taken to better next time 👍🏴
😂 sorry I couldn't help myself. Love the videos, looking forward to seeing this job.
@@pking9966 The double border on this project should be quite nice 👍🏴
Hope you don't get your 90s & 45s mixed up 🤣
@@pking9966 I think I’m actually losing the plot I really do my brains shutting down 😴 getting old 🤔👍🏴
Messy
The grouting is definitely messy 👍🏴
Happy days mate, just what I need after work 👍 watching from north wales
Thanks Harrison glad you enjoy my videos mate much appreciated for you watching 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping I really do mate, I think your works top class. I'm a steel fabricator by trade but you've inspired me to have a crack at landscaping the garden this summer😂👍 wish me luck
@@harrisonlloyd9668 Thanks for that Harrison if you need any help or advice just let me know 👍🏴