Playing Outside - Peter Martin | 2 Minute Jazz
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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Peter demonstrates how to play outside of a chord while in a different chord... but still be in that chord... It sounds like magic...
transcription: gum.co/ellPO (by Lukas Pfeil)
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What's going on, everybody? Peter Martin here, for Two Minute Jazz Piano. I wanna talk to you today about playing outside.
So, (jazz piano) normally when we talk about playing outside, we just mean shifting harmonically from what the actual chord we're
on for a little bit of time when we're not supposed to be changing the chord. But we use that other harmonic area to build our melodic ideas off of.
If we look at D Minor, (jazz piano) we're just, you know, we're
kinda sitting there, right? (jazz piano)
It's kinda obvious at a certain point, I'm leaving D Minor. Now, you know, Dorian, it's all white keys so you can tell when I'm
doing it visually, too, 'cause I'm going up to non-white keys, but the sorta obvious place that we go is a half step up, which works nice (jazz piano) so we can kinda shift up there at any time.
But I want you to think about some other areas to go outside, as well. (jazz piano) And these are, they can really be almost anywhere. We're thinking more in terms of triadic pattern. So D Minor but I'm going up to (jazz piano). E, E Triad.
And then E flat, major triad.
And even D triad, even though we're going to D Minor.
Then I'm going to B triad.
And you hear I'm doing, as opposed to a straight triad, (jazz piano) 'cause it gets a little bit basic, I'm adding in that fourth kind
of as a melodic passing note.
(jazz piano) right? (jazz piano)
You know, you do that if you like the sound. (jazz piano)
And then, you know, in terms of your comping, you probably notice sometimes I'm really sticking straight with what I'm doing melodically with my comping. (jazz piano)
But these voicings are actually, those are a fourth, but, you can also play things that move in the same direction with the pattern that you're doing when you're playing outside.
(jazz piano) that are not actually the chords for what you're playing.
What I did there was (jazz piano), that kinda matches but
then I went (jazz piano).
I'm still doing the major, (jazz piano) moving chromatically but I'm
taking that fourth voicing and moving it chromatically, as well.
(jazz piano)
And the whole thing, remember playing outside, you're shifting, you're going somewhere else and then you're coming back. You can't play on the chord and then leave the chord and stay away because then you're outside forever.
You gotta bring it back home at some point. Happy practicing.
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I love the sound of those outside triads with the added 4th - sweet and sour licks.
Peter that’s literally mind blowing. For a long period of time I was trying to understand how to shred over these pentatonic scales and sound more professional and now it’s done! Cause many different modern jazz pianists such as McCoy Tyner, Kenny Kirkland and many others use it a lot. So thank you!
there's such a pleasantness to your playing and to your teaching! :)
In less than 5 minutes you touched on upwards of 3 topics that I'm struggling with, and managed to explain them in a way that really helps me get a better understanding. Thanks, Peter!
Yes!!! 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
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Really?? 😂
👍
You were able to help me make sense of solos I have enjoyed by Chick,Keith Jarrett,Herbie and many others.Thanks for opening the door to understanding this theory.
you da man Peter thank you for all you do and for sharing
you sir are the man! Thank you for making these videos!
Arrrghh! You make it look so easy!!
Seriously good instruction, clear, concise and awesome playing!
This dood shreds!
So cool! reminds me so much of Chick Corea.
Omg this man is amazing
Exactly what i was looking for. Sounds awesome.Thanks!
Thank you Peter!
The most significant factor of playing outside successfully is the spot on rhythm in my opinion, otherwise it sounds really wrong :D
This is useful!..great lesson sir I like what you doing
Wonderful lesson. Thank you!!!!!!!!
Thanks!
thank you Peter
God bless! ! Very cool! !
Great concepts, great playing.
This guy is a jazz monster
Gracias Peter por los videos, el mejor canal de Piano! 🎹
🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 gracias amigo
Sounds GREAT man! Thanks for the inspiration!
Fantastic playing. !
You really know how to unlock me !
thank you so much for your help !!!
Very cool and modern patterns!
So good !!
Fantastic.
Dude you're a monster. Holy crap.
Great explanation
Thanks !!! The thruway to learning processes.
Thanks Peter!! Great lesson
Very cool vid thankyou 👏👏👏
Just Beautiful Thank you
Fantastic!!Lesson
Terrific skill
Good
Amazing man thanks for this great explanation
great stuff.. so clear, no waffly bullshit.... (i'll go home later and fail to put it into practice, of course.... but for now there's at least hope!)
Wowww... tks
Didn’t know its possible to go outside if the chord is in minor. Do you have a technique what triads that can be played in minor chords. Thank you.
Damn
Really any scale that contains D including melodicminor scales that include D also there is no reason to limit yourself to pentatonic shapes. Like try superimposing D-7, F7+11,D7+11,Bbmaj7+5,Abmaj7+5,Dalt7,D-7 all over a D pedal. Play it inside with chords.
paxwallacejazz bro that was so simple but you helped me very much thank you!!!
You are "the"man!are you teaching at the julliard?so inspired and versatile..
The videos going a little fast but sounds like you're playing for the voicings in the left hand. Anyway you can show us what you're playing in your left hand?
Please teach it slowly the run notes ,so that we can learn it fully,
C'est vraiment cool Peter. On dirait que le tempo rapide donne un autre sens aux phrases que tu joues... You see what I mean?
sir how do u want what soloing when change the medoly
What chords are on the left hand? I often heard that voicing but I can,t get how to voice it
Quartal voicings, a fourth apart, D, G, C. etc. The McCoy Tyner "modern" sound.
I like that he ended with “You gotta bring it back home at some point,” because I agree with him! When guys just zoom into the stratosphere and there’s no harmonic context any more, it feels too much like that old quote (from Stravinsky?) about “playing tennis without a net.” It kinda feels pointless. Even some of MIles Davis’ music with his second great quintet (Wayne, Herbie, Tony, Ron) felt that way to me. On one level, some amazing playing was going on, but when it’s just “rhythm-no changes”, then I kind of lose interest after a while. I actually liked his 70s electric stuff better, because a lot of times there was a very basic thing going on-like a one-chord vamp-so that no matter how far out the playing got, you knew where “home” was. I dunno, anybody feel me on this?
Respectfully Peter, this is pitched way over my head and I suspect others of your audience’s heads if they are honest. The same info, over a 20-30 minute video, with music staff examples, would be of vastly more practical utility. We all love your playing and want to learn to play like that, but for me, all I can do is marvel at videos like this. Thanks. Perhaps an open studio update with a longer format?
Before I use to chase women, NOW I GET THEM !! Mucho appreciation Mr. Martin. Ur da M'on !😁! T/y ! ! ! ""🤛"" 😎
POW!
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If you could actually do a video breaking this down in the context of Chick Corea.... I've been trying to find someone to explain Chick's harmonic mind for YEARS.
Eurika.
Hi Sir you are planning very nice but can you teach you slowly and playing slowly
Too advanced for me, I think. I love the sound & I can do this but I don't understand it.
I think the application is much harder than the understanding, its just going away from whats "normal" and then back
Nice stuff.
But the ‘non-white’ notes on the piano are all actually black. Black and proud.
#BNM
Péter, with all due respect, you should only be teaching pros, as you are just showing off my friend, you are wasting the time of less advanced people's time, you come across as that my friend....God bless....
Dude you are such a shredderrrr. Your harmonic language is literally off the charts.
Thanks!
Thank you. When I hear 'outside' & get away with playing a few bars of it, I always think it's a fluke. You have explained why it works. It's good for confidence to know that there's some theory behind it & we trust our ears.
Now there's even more stuff to practice. Your videos help a lot of players. Thanks again.
Outstanding series. Fantastic explanation and no unrelated garbage. It's probably the most effective 4 minutes I've seen
Too fast too learn.... The same little slower and it will be perfect thank you
The concept is elementary, but hearing it and using it with feeling takes time.
We have the D Dorian Mode -- D, E, F, G, A, B, C. Then, he plays notes and chords not part of the scale. It lends an unexpected sound, a departure from the home tonic center (D Minor/Dorian Mode) and then a return home. It's an interesting exploration for the improviser and the listener. Perhaps try listening to some Polychords to hear some of the more "outside" sounds. Play a D Minor Triad and an E Major Triad at the same time and so on and on. :-) Good luck.
I agree. But I set the playback speed to
50% after watching the video at normal speed.
DovidM - He sounds drunk at 50%, but the piano notes are still pretty quick. 🙂
The idea, of course, is that you go to the website and take one of the courses where they dissect it at your pace. Even shredders have to make a living, which ain't easy in the jazz world.
But in truth there is enough free stuff from Open Studio and other talented teachers on You Tube, it can probably last a lifetime. I recommend a course with Open Studio though. I'm in one, but I still grab from all over.
Why make it simple when you can confuse everyone 😢
Great explanation and demonstration. You da man!
Great stuff Peter! I'd love to see how you go inside and out over a chord pattern, though. For example, when playing jazz standards where can we find opportunities to go outside the progression.
Oh man , this sound so amazing
Damn that was very cool. Wish I would have heard all this 50 years ago. I would have been a monster on any instrument. Thanks for sharing...
I love playing outside , particularly on an 80F day with a light warm breeze by the ocean ...
Very funny, I didn't think of that!😁
Damm son...that was amazing...reminds me of Chick Corea!!!!!
So nice ..a jazz education in 2 minutes for real.. sparkly technique !!
very nice - but a slowed down version would always be great! (I know you can do that as a listener on UA-cam but it distorts the sound, so showing it very slowly helps a lot anyway :) - thank you very much for the videos!
Been looking for this!!! Yes!! Thanks!!
Very interesting video. Would it have been more useful to play more slowly?Anyway, thanks for your teaching.
Very Dave Grusin like, which is Nirvana
Playing outside?It's Kold outside
Yeheah bro!!!!! Smoking......... :)
its ok to say black keys, that what they are
Incredibile video in soli 2 minuti!
Great, but too fast!
Nice reverb
This is the shit... Thanks!
Excelent as always. 👍🏻
Luis Rodriguez Dorantes nice profile image though
How do you apply this to chord changes rather than just single chords and modal songs? For example how would I apply this over On Green Dolphin Street?
bel sapore :)
I️ always look forward to your videos! Inspired practice today. Thanks!
😅mind blowing as usual
Hello Peter and (Adam) I love your show Peter I’ve learned so much from you you have turned my playing around so much I want to travel to Open Studio ( I’m in California unfortunetly) your show is the best thing onYou Tube period.I hope you read this I know you Are very busy! You have inspirer me out of my skull I’ve replayed your videos hundrede of times- I have a question: on the playing outside you have inspirer me to create something on my ovn: going up to the Ab min. 11- I play a Bb 13 and go down chromatically: Bb13 A13,Ab13,G13 etc. and on the right hand I play F,EC,G( 5,b5,9and 13 for the Bb- then for theA13 the same going down: so I hit the 5 the b5 , 9 and 13 of every chord- you have inspirered me to do this because your teaching is so awesome! I. Want to order some materials ( my daughters going to for my birthday!) I hope you Antwerpen me back- I know your’re busy- thanks for your show it’s amazing,! William Le Us the loneliest musician in the world,
Just went to the site. Thanks for putting those resources up there. I'm sure that I can glean some good stuff there.
Hi Peter
I really love your playing and instruction. Wow!
Could you do some outside examples (like in this video) but keep the comping extremely simple? For example, stick to just one chord or inversions of it. It would really help me in getting the sound in my mind’s ear.
Really love those McCoy Tyner concepts but those outside notes sound great because o the chords behind them give them logic. For other instruments they don’t work as well.
I have FINALLY found what I'm looking for. Time to practice
Queria muito entender oque ele fala...parece explicar muito bemm
Sloww please 🙏
Sounds great. Reminds me of Chick Corea.
Super dope
Huge help!