The motor RPM is based on voltage and motor KV so more amps/watts will not increase the max rpm. Knowing the motor KV would be useful for helping determine speed differences between the motors.
What is the easiest way to up the juice that the motors are receiving? I’m not looking to go crazy like you guys. Maybe just an extra 500 or 750. I know “ anything I do to my scoot, at the very least, voids my warranty (I Bought it used) and your not responsible for anything I might do” Thanks I appreciate your time…….
my vsett9 is in yellow color, apparently some old pre-release version... and it would go faster than 33kmh in mode 3 usually, than out of the blue will go 38kmh, than 33kmh max again with super slow acceleration (over 25sec to get to 33kmh), than one time it allowed to go up 45kmh... - all on the same road, same weather temp, same day... Controller is nuts.. but seller won't respond to me :( Can you advice what is the normal expected speed for vsett9? (im 68kg only, and I saw it can go 45kmh when it is in a mood... I think I got a teenage girl controller lol) Can you help in any way?
Hi I have a kaabo mantis scooter it has dual 1000 W motors Can I install the zero 10X limited motor on my kaabo mantis scooter? I would like a little more speed I have a 60v 18ah battery can you suggest some better motors that will work for my scooter please let me know I am a subscriber thank you love your videos hope to here from you soon
I think in general, not just limited to PEV's, too much emphasis is placed on speed/horsepower and not enough on torque. When researching PEV's I always ask for the torque nm of the motor. It's surprising how many PEV's costing thousands of dollars that have incredibly low torque...common value seems to be 68nm. I can order a plain simple bike from Costco for $300 and add a midmotor ebike conversion kit with 168nm. Which is what I will be doing. I want several PEV's though: ebike, escooter, e-kickscooter, euc, etc; one of each. Slowly but surely but first I'm purchasing safety gear. SAFETY FIRST!!! I do like very much Zero e-kickscooters: look great, good specs, reasonable price compared with the competition, and every single person I have met in NYC that has one gets excited when I ask them about it and they all highly recommend it. 💪🏻🤓😎🤓😎🤓😎🤓👍🏻
yes you need to get our conversion kit and 11 inch motor. lower power consumption for the same speed yes. but you will also very quickly want more torque to match the power the motor can provide but your controller will not able to handle the power and will cut off. hence you will need to also change controller. Oh but wait, your battery is not equipped to handle the increase in power too, so you may need a new battery too.
@@FalconpevSg Okay :D But does it really gonna be so bad? The motor can't draw more power if the controller is max out. For my purpose I need bigger wheels and little more torque in up hill
Sorry to break it to you but titan isn’t the inventor of the zero. We created the zero and the scooters. Titan is only a trading company in fujian province that sells many other scooters including Kaboo and other ebikes. How can titan be making so many models of escooters and ebikes? Think about it. You have been lied to.
I've just recently purchased a 52v zero 10x I use it around Cairns in Nth Queensland Australia. Wet tropics area. I'm happy with how it performs in almost all aspects. I've only traveled 90kms on it so far, but I've got two gripes about it. The first, how can you put a scooter out there that's not even basically water resistant, I mean if I get a shower of rain....no riding! Wet tropics area..Bad! Second bitch, not as bad. Charge the battery up full charge. 58.3v, goes awsome, at 52v it's fading, at 50 it starts to get disappointing at 48 I'm giving up. I'd like some advice? Jeff.
Their telegram group, or one of the Zero facebook groups (like Redline2000 Zero) would be a more helpful forum for you. Falcon has a video up on waterproofing. On battery, do you have the 23Ah? It lasts better than the smaller version. Yes, about 46-47v stationary it will be dropping close to cutoff. Total range should be 40-50km.
What about the 3200w motor 10 inch on your website?.. with the same current and voltage how will it compare to the 1600w motor? And will it have more torque?
@@FalconpevSgSorry guys,.. but without knowing the winding, how i will understand that the motor is for high speed or Torquay...? I see in your page and not even there writing anything... The difference from a 16*4 to 33*2 is huge ..
If you set the display to 28 magnets you won't get the right speed readout. Get a GPS speedo side by side on the scooter and you will notice exactly what I am talking about. Being at 30 magnets will read the same as gps.
Good observation and we did take a few liberties in a video but with good assumptions. The difference between the 11X stock motor and the 11x limited motor is not a lot in non riding unladen conditions. The 11x motor does not have hall sensors so it’s not very efficient at high speeds but that does not matter in unladen conditions. Also the stock 11X motor is not good in high current situations unlike the limited motor but again it doesn’t matter as unladen it does not require much current or generate much heat. This is purely a “lab” tests so we did take a few liberties.
Hey do you know if I can push 60v through the 10x 52v ? Reason I ask is because the motors already accept 60v so I'll just add another series on the battery thank for your reply
I'd like the 11 inch high speed motor for a scooter that i'm building from scratch. Emailed your customer support asking if i would be able run it with the grin phaserunner controller and got some generic bs answer, basically not really answering my question. Please let me know if i can run your 11 in high speed motor with the phaserunner, if not which controller do i need? Will be making my own battery to any voltage required. Thank you.
Hub Motors are generic by nature. They are either geared or gearless. If it’s gearless do they run hall or hall less? That’s decided by your controller but our motors can run with most controllers.
@@FalconpevSg I'm talking about the 11 inch motor in this very video. Hard for me to understand why you're asking me if the motor is geared or gearless or if it has hall sensors, since i'm talking about the 11 in motor that you guys sell. Once again, can i run it with phaserunner, or do i have to purchase a controller from you guys?
Hello good evening I'm watching from Philippines I have zoomer scooter carbon fiber but it's not working now maybe broken is electric motor? If buy that part how much?
we probably have that part on our website...check out www.falconpev.com.sg. if u have any more questions, do email us at sales@falconpev.com.sg. Good luck!
10inches motor 60v 1200w with rpm 1936 & 93kmph 60v 1600w with rpm 2692 & 130kmph 11inches motor 60v rpm 2179 wow amazing! if i will make 11inches tire the 60v limited, it will effect the speed?.
@@FalconpevSg I have a 3200w scooter system 1600w front and back but my front motor has just gone I’m an more qualified to modify my frame etc if needed you got two motor more then 1600w each?
As measured it’s 2000 rpm for about 50 volts. That would be very close to 40 rpm per volt. RC cars are in the thousands. You want start torque not Kv. Nobody sane wants to go 20 metres per second on an 11 inch wheel
The actual speed is way lower when weight of person on scooter. Of course with scooter on a stand it's 10mph faster then when it's on the ground with me riding it.
The motor RPM is based on voltage and motor KV so more amps/watts will not increase the max rpm. Knowing the motor KV would be useful for helping determine speed differences between the motors.
What KV is these motors?
another informative video, you guys have been an invaluable resource for good information in my journey into PEVs. keep them coming!
Thank you for the support
In the video what kind of controller was used testing the first two motors ?
Very interesting..... When can I order the motors/controller/etc... to convert my non limited 11x :)
What is the easiest way to up the juice that the motors are receiving? I’m not looking to go crazy like you guys. Maybe just an extra 500 or 750. I know “ anything I do to my scoot, at the very least, voids my warranty (I Bought it used) and your not responsible for anything I might do”
Thanks I appreciate your time…….
I buyed a zero 11x and in P08 it says 28 magnets. Is that correct or does 11x have 30 magnets?
I'd like to know if the limited motor would yield any considerable benefit for a 52V model like the VDM-10
Can i put the 11inch motor on my zero 11x? Is it plug and play
my vsett9 is in yellow color, apparently some old pre-release version... and it would go faster than 33kmh in mode 3 usually, than out of the blue will go 38kmh, than 33kmh max again with super slow acceleration (over 25sec to get to 33kmh), than one time it allowed to go up 45kmh... - all on the same road, same weather temp, same day... Controller is nuts.. but seller won't respond to me :(
Can you advice what is the normal expected speed for vsett9? (im 68kg only, and I saw it can go 45kmh when it is in a mood... I think I got a teenage girl controller lol) Can you help in any way?
Hi what is the max watt the the 11 inch limited motor handle 4500x2? 9000 each motor?
Hi I have a kaabo mantis scooter it has dual 1000 W motors Can I install the zero 10X limited motor on my kaabo mantis scooter? I would like a little more speed I have a 60v 18ah battery can you suggest some better motors that will work for my scooter please let me know I am a subscriber thank you love your videos hope to here from you soon
I think in general, not just limited to PEV's, too much emphasis is placed on speed/horsepower and not enough on torque. When researching PEV's I always ask for the torque nm of the motor. It's surprising how many PEV's costing thousands of dollars that have incredibly low torque...common value seems to be 68nm. I can order a plain simple bike from Costco for $300 and add a midmotor ebike conversion kit with 168nm. Which is what I will be doing. I want several PEV's though: ebike, escooter, e-kickscooter, euc, etc; one of each. Slowly but surely but first I'm purchasing safety gear. SAFETY FIRST!!! I do like very much Zero e-kickscooters: look great, good specs, reasonable price compared with the competition, and every single person I have met in NYC that has one gets excited when I ask them about it and they all highly recommend it. 💪🏻🤓😎🤓😎🤓😎🤓👍🏻
buddy that 168 nm is a lie. its added through gears its not the output of the motor
If I turn off dual mode then I can go with it!
I have the zero 10x 60v 21ah what can I do to get more power ? Do I have to get new controllers or can I give more watts with the stocks ?
Can I upgrade 10 inc motors to 11 inc for zero 10x? Does it provide more torque and more speed? Maybe lower power consumption?
yes you need to get our conversion kit and 11 inch motor. lower power consumption for the same speed yes. but you will also very quickly want more torque to match the power the motor can provide but your controller will not able to handle the power and will cut off. hence you will need to also change controller. Oh but wait, your battery is not equipped to handle the increase in power too, so you may need a new battery too.
@@FalconpevSg Okay :D But does it really gonna be so bad? The motor can't draw more power if the controller is max out. For my purpose I need bigger wheels and little more torque in up hill
Cant wait for titan grup to start puting these motors on their stock zero 11x
Sorry to break it to you but titan isn’t the inventor of the zero. We created the zero and the scooters. Titan is only a trading company in fujian province that sells many other scooters including Kaboo and other ebikes. How can titan be making so many models of escooters and ebikes? Think about it. You have been lied to.
@@FalconpevSg fam they make em for these companies for kabbo for zero for phantom or how its called
I've just recently purchased a 52v zero 10x I use it around Cairns in Nth Queensland Australia. Wet tropics area. I'm happy with how it performs in almost all aspects. I've only traveled 90kms on it so far, but I've got two gripes about it. The first, how can you put a scooter out there that's not even basically water resistant, I mean if I get a shower of rain....no riding! Wet tropics area..Bad! Second bitch, not as bad. Charge the battery up full charge. 58.3v, goes awsome, at 52v it's fading, at 50 it starts to get disappointing at 48 I'm giving up.
I'd like some advice?
Jeff.
Their telegram group, or one of the Zero facebook groups (like Redline2000 Zero) would be a more helpful forum for you. Falcon has a video up on waterproofing. On battery, do you have the 23Ah? It lasts better than the smaller version. Yes, about 46-47v stationary it will be dropping close to cutoff. Total range should be 40-50km.
Hi guys do you guys have upgrade kits with new controller zero 10x / apollo pro
You can do our zero 10X limited or Evo kit but it’s quite a lot of work
@@FalconpevSg thank you which kit, gives more acceleration power improvement. How much diffrwance is after the upgrade? And how much is it?
@@welnareviews9904 we can suggest going to the 11 inch motors, with our limited controllers. That’s about usd 1100 in upgrades.
What about the 3200w motor 10 inch on your website?.. with the same current and voltage how will it compare to the 1600w motor? And will it have more torque?
Same torque.
@@FalconpevSg ok thanks.. but if I will be pushing more than 3000W it will be better to get the 3200 motor right? (Planning on 60v 90 amp)
Can I do straight swap for 60V 1200W motors to replace my old 52V 1000W motors? Or do I need to change other things as well like controller, battery?
Yes you can swap out the 1000W motors for 1200W motors but the difference in performance is not a lot
Do you know the winding of 6cm motor with 6 phase wires...??🤔
IF you know...........
Sorry we are not sure
@@FalconpevSgSorry guys,.. but without knowing the winding, how i will understand that the motor is for high speed or Torquay...?
I see in your page and not even there writing anything...
The difference from a 16*4 to 33*2 is huge ..
How many magnets does 11x have? My controller says 28 but I think I should higher that number to 30 but I'm not sure 11x have 30 magnets?
It should be set at 30 magnets.
If you set the display to 28 magnets you won't get the right speed readout. Get a GPS speedo side by side on the scooter and you will notice exactly what I am talking about. Being at 30 magnets will read the same as gps.
How can I use the 10 inch 1000W / 1200W motor for ZERO 10X instead of the 52v500w motor? Are there any parts required for replacement?
Yes must be used together with the zero 10x controller
Why motor of the z8 pro is so slow ? 48v and 500w but only 34 kmh .... Same speed of 36v Xiaomi pro 2 and 350w motor 😢
Why not start the first engine only when I push the start Zero 10x
Great vid but isnt this a 10x vs 10x limited v 11x limited? Title says v stock 11x motor which is not actually featured in video.
Good observation and we did take a few liberties in a video but with good assumptions. The difference between the 11X stock motor and the 11x limited motor is not a lot in non riding unladen conditions. The 11x motor does not have hall sensors so it’s not very efficient at high speeds but that does not matter in unladen conditions. Also the stock 11X motor is not good in high current situations unlike the limited motor but again it doesn’t matter as unladen it does not require much current or generate much heat. This is purely a “lab” tests so we did take a few liberties.
Is it possible to swap 10X limited parts onto the 10X? Like Plug & Play?
The motors are plug and play-ish. But not the rest of the electronics like controllers and such.
Hey do you know if I can push 60v through the 10x 52v ? Reason I ask is because the motors already accept 60v so I'll just add another series on the battery thank for your reply
your controllers need to change too
@@FalconpevSg hey I have a zero 8x could I swap to 10x controllers for a bit more umff
I'd like the 11 inch high speed motor for a scooter that i'm building from scratch. Emailed your customer support asking if i would be able run it with the grin phaserunner controller and got some generic bs answer, basically not really answering my question.
Please let me know if i can run your 11 in high speed motor with the phaserunner, if not which controller do i need? Will be making my own battery to any voltage required. Thank you.
Hub Motors are generic by nature. They are either geared or gearless. If it’s gearless do they run hall or hall less? That’s decided by your controller but our motors can run with most controllers.
@@FalconpevSg
I'm talking about the 11 inch motor in this very video. Hard for me to understand why you're asking me if the motor is geared or gearless or if it has hall sensors, since i'm talking about the 11 in motor that you guys sell. Once again, can i run it with phaserunner, or do i have to purchase a controller from you guys?
I believe he said their motors can run with most controllers...
I myself plan on ordering a new replacement 11 rear motor
Hello good evening I'm watching from Philippines I have zoomer scooter carbon fiber but it's not working now maybe broken is electric motor? If buy that part how much?
we probably have that part on our website...check out www.falconpev.com.sg. if u have any more questions, do email us at sales@falconpev.com.sg. Good luck!
You should do the same test but with a load on it like if you were riding it !!!!!!!
10inches motor
60v 1200w with rpm 1936 & 93kmph
60v 1600w with rpm 2692 & 130kmph
11inches motor
60v rpm 2179
wow amazing!
if i will make 11inches tire the 60v limited, it will effect the speed?.
When is this motor out I would like to buy
It is available now
@@FalconpevSg I have a 3200w scooter system 1600w front and back but my front motor has just gone I’m an more qualified to modify my frame etc if needed you got two motor more then 1600w each?
@@UKMrMedical let’s take a look at your current motors
What is the KV of the 10-inch motor?
Not sure but top speed of the 11 inch is 120kmh and 10 inch is 90kmh
@@FalconpevSg I need KV to calculate total speed for specific volts, thanks.
@@innerfire369 we don’t have the kV
As measured it’s 2000 rpm for about 50 volts. That would be very close to 40 rpm per volt. RC cars are in the thousands. You want start torque not Kv. Nobody sane wants to go 20 metres per second on an 11 inch wheel
The actual speed is way lower when weight of person on scooter. Of course with scooter on a stand it's 10mph faster then when it's on the ground with me riding it.
AMAZING
So i can just throw zero 10x limited motors on my 10x 60v and get more speed?
Yes but you may burn out your controllers as the motors take too much current
@@FalconpevSg oh. Bummer.
hooooo hell yeah i am so close to the real rpm regarding instagram game ! :D
Can you not just buy a new motor and swop it out
yes sure you can, and you can get a slight boost in speed.