Have been a Canon user for over 40 years and bought the R6 soon after it was released, best camera I have ever had. Don't normally leave comments but have just stumbled on your channel and love your style and straight talking.
I cannot praise my R6 enough. It's the most versatile camera I've ever owned. Every time someone asks me how I'm getting on with it, I end up doing an unpaid commercial. (Are you listening, Canon? ;-D )
Yes, same here. I was super reluctant ‘downgrading’, well, what I thought was a downgrade from a 1DXMKII. Not one regret, and already have my MKii for sale to make room for a 2nd R6 body.
@@RobSambles I'm using a Sigma 28-70mm EX Aspherical DF... I can't really find original official info about it but some forums mention it as far back as 2005. No issues whatsoever (apart from the issues I have with that lens on any occasion, which are in no way R6 related or specific) Its autofocus mechanism is slow, loud and clunky and I still get about 8 frames per second with mechanical shutter. Between 13-16 fps on electronic shutter. I did make it hard for the lens by moving to and away from the subject, the subject being an online stopwatch with milliseconds displayed. :) Proper science LOL
Only one addition/ correction about the overheating issue - it's massively region-specific. I'm based in South India where the climate is exactly as hot as you'd think and I tested the R6 on the latest firmware in April this year. For video, it would consistently let me record about 12-15 minutes (working on a doc about agricultural co-ops in rural India) before overheating and then the cooldown period was unpredictable. This was already known. The unpleasant surprise was while shooting stills. I have to correct Rob and say that in some conditions, it absolutely will overheat and did for me. It did not shut down but it gave me a temperature warning, at which point I didn't risk it further because that would've compromised video shooting. So, my conclusion is that the R6 is undoubtedly a terrific camera for many people, but it just isn't fit for purpose in all conditions, particularly warm climates. Cheers.
You forgot the myth, '20 megapixels isn't enough'. A little research shows it's more than enough to print large and if you want to crop, it's also fine. You can use something like Gigapixel A1 if you're really worried and if you have to massively crop - there's something wrong with your photography. How did people survive before 20 plus megapixel cameras? I was worried when looking at this camera, that my tele lenses wouldn't work as they are old first generation - 500mm f4 Mk1 and the 400mm f5.6. I still have my Sigma 500mm f4.5, old and 3rd party, and they all work fine.
Rolling shutter is not a real issue for me when it comes to basketball but I still prefer to shoot with mechanical shutter. With volleyball it can be problematic. As long as you don't move in the horizontal plane when taking photos the rolling shutter is not an issue. But when the ball is moving from the top of the frame to the bottom of the frame the ball will deform a lot. It almost starts to look like a rugby ball, even with high shutter speed. So when you shoot volleybal, I don't recommend using the electronic shutter. I also still use EF lenses and all my lenses are compatible with the EF/RF adapter but not all are compatible for high speed shooting when using the mechanical shutter. Here is my list: * Canon EF 20mm F/2.8 USM: compatible, no high speed * Canon EF-S 17-55mm F/2.8 USM: compatible, no high speed * Canon EF 50mm F/1.4 USM: compatible, no high speed * Canon EF 70-200mm F/2.8 L IS III USM: compatible, high speed * Canon EF 85mm F/1.8 USM: compatible, no high speed * Canon EF 100mm F/2.8 L IS USM Macro: compatible, high speed * Sigma 120-300mm F/2.8 DG OS HSM Sport: compatible, no high speed
After doing 40+ Wedding with a photographer/videographer who uses the Canon R6, yes, it overheats! We have had them overheat during the ceremony and toast constantly. Luckily we have other cameras as a backup. I personally use the Nikon Z6/Nikon Z6 II and have no problems at all.
Rob as an R6 sceptic for a number of reason,I would agreed with you on all these. The only one I have experienced is the buffering but will up my cards to 250mbs from 125 and see. I don’t own any RF glass and happily use the following with the converter Canon ef 17-24 l mk I Ef 24 - 70 mkii, ef 300 f4 mkii 70-200 f2.8 mkiii 400. f2.8 mkii. Have also tried the sigma 150-600 f5.6-6.3 Sport all work fine
I used a friend's R6/500 F4 IS (version 1) and it stopped focusing twice in 20 mins (the dreaded locked red AF point). Another friend was using the same type of lens on his R5 at the same location and said yes, it does happen on occasion for him too. However, I use the R5 with the Version 2 of the 500 and have NEVER had a problem, outside of one lock up of the entire camera since launch.
Great video Rob! Everyday my R6's impress me more and more. I'll be doing video work with the R6 today, and this evening I'm shooting high school basketball. I have zero concerns.
Thank you for your reviews about Canon R6, it helped me to make decision to buy it for sports photography. Recived mine last saturday with RF70-200F4 lens and tested it shooting motocross. AF and eye tracking worked really well, it even identifyed eye trough motocross googles from 15-20m away. Electronic shutter and 20fps worked surprisingly well, even to consider that i shot RAW photos. In summary, R6 is just a fantastic camera, considering that i went to R6 from 1D Mark III and i really recommend it for budget sports photography, if you compare the price with 1D :)
The oldest EF lens I have on hand is the EF 28-105 f3.5-4.5 USM and it works just fine. I do have a couple of EF-S lenses and I wish canon would give you the option to not auto crop to 1.6 so I could crop where I want from whatever image it gives, but they work fine too otherwise. There is a slight confusion adapting vintage glass, you have to poke a setting allowing the shutter to fire "with no lens attached", but once done vintage works well too. I did run into a mild issue with the shutter, in electronic first curtain mode at 1/8000th I get a black band at the bottom of frame, but it goes away in full mechanical or full electronic mode.
I photographed NFL games on an original Canon 5D for years. These new cameras are astronomically better than that and people still complain about them.
To be fair, the overheating issue is the only one of these five I’d heard of. I have experienced overheating while filming 4K on interviews. It’s not ideal but it’s not my main camera for stuff like that (it’s mainly for stills) so I’m not too bothered. It is a real thing though. That said, I really like my R6. A great little camera for the price.
Also if you if you have the digital lens optimizer set to high it would slow down the buffer and you won't be able to preview your photos because it takes longer to save to the sd card.👍
Great information, thank you. Just got my R6 a few weeks ago and am already loving it. Being able to customize the buttons and dials, including the lens dial, gives me so much easy control. As with everyone, I assume, blown away by the AF. And thank you for the links to the equipment you use.
I have had the R6 for only 3 months. I am using a Sigma Art EF 24-70mm f/2.8 and a Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 ii with the control ring adapter. I haven't had any problems so far using the adapter. I shoot mostly my own kiddos, some travel and some Middle/High School sports. Really looking forward to putting it through its paces this fall when sports are in full swing again. :) Thank you for your very informative videos. :)
No dedicated photo/video switch and you cant save custom video settings are my biggest drawback on the R6. If it could switch fast and efficiently for hybrid work it would be an outstanding camera for me.
To avoid viewfinder lag you need to change the display refresh rate from Power Saving (60Hz)--which is the default--to Smooth (120Hz). (Menu item: Wrench--8: Display Performance)
@@M4TR1X What does changing from “Power Saving” to “Smooth” do? It certainly reduced the jitteriness of the image in the viewfinder during a football game.
Rob, once again a cracking video, 100% agree with what you say. Do you think some UA-camrs exaggerated "their perceived problems" to get more traffic on their sites? Or do you think some people simply don't use their cameras properly or don't know how to set them up correctly ? P.s I regularly used my 24-105 mm IS L MK I on my R6 and it works a treat.
Thank you, I wouldn't necessarily say that they were exaggerated, perhaps it was from less usage of the camera or simply following the general opinion.
Old EF lenses on modern Canons - mention this! I switched late to Canon, in 2019. In analogue times I prefered Nikon. I bought in summer 2018 a very good old cam bag in a charity store for €15. In the bag was an old EOS 500 with 35-70mm lens, both made in the 1990s. This gave me the ieda to give Canon a try. I bought a cheap EOS 40D with shuttercount about 4000 in august 2018 an mounted the old 35-70 lens. AF okay and fast, image quality outdated. March 2019 I bought another used but very good cam bag, it was sold with a another EOS 500, a 28-80 and a 80-200 lens, all made in the 1990s, too. Both lenses worked on the 40D very good and fine. But this was the reason why now I switched to Canon. I will mention only my "worst" Canons, the EOS 77D and the R. I own modern lenses for both and I use some EF glass on both, e.g. the 40mm pancake. I tested all the old glass made for 35mm film cams on all my modern digital Canons and it is amazing. The Af ist fast and accurate, the AF tops often the AF of some Fujifilm AP-C with Fujinon lenses, both, the cams and lenses made 30 years after the old Canon glass. Later I tested all old Canon glass with the R and the EF Adapter and it's the same story: astonishing fast and good AF for these old glasses. Compared to this some high priced modern SIGMA AF and EF-S lenses have less good or slower AF on Canon APS-C or FF cams. In 2019 I got a brandnew Yongnuo 50mm/f1.8 for peanuts. I bought it to try out what one can expect from thies cheap one. It's a bad lens. The AF fails often, it's AF is slow and it pumps. Adopted to the Canon EOS R with the EF adapter it worked much better as on my APS-C Canons or my fullframe Canon DSLRs. I also used a now sold EF 70-200 USM IS and a very old push-pull 70-200/f4 AF lens on the R. Both worked fine and AF was fast. In my opnion Canon is the best choice over Nikon and Sony, because every old glass you have and every less you can afford will work, some good, some with lacks, some very good.
for my r6, overheating is a bit of a problem for video, not so much for photography. if you're gonna use it for long takes as your A cam then you'll definitely need an external recorder or to shoot in 1080p, but otherwise you'll definitely be okay if you're taking shorter clips with time in between in 4k30/60. I spent 2 days shooting some BTS for a music video with just the R6, it overheated once, and that was because I forgot to stop rolling while i was eating. other times its definitely gotten really hot while its been powered through USB-C on my v-mount while recording externally, but didn't shut off, but definitely was giving me the heat warning. if you use the r6 primarily for photos you'll never encounter overheating, but probably will if you're doing video.
That rolling shutter myth talk really made me shoot only mechanical for the first month or two then cautiously move to electronic over a few small testing periods before I realized people are just being dramatic and the electronic shutter is amazing
@@TimHuhtala well that I’m not 100% sure if it’s the same between the R5 and the R6, because I shoot the R5...but for R5 specs the faster the shot the less bit depth. 14bit electronic and mechanical single shot, then H+ drops mechanical to 13bit and electronic to 12bit. For me personally, I don’t notice much of a difference when it drops the depth, so the trade off for a much faster fraction of a second moment is worth it. Pretty sure the 1DX III also has a 12bit at 20fps
When you're panning quickly is the only time you have to worry about the rolling shutter. One of the best bird bird in flight shots I've ever got had tilted trees in the background. Took me 6 hours in photoshop to fix it. So for that type of photography I've learned my lesson and reverted to mechanical.
My R6 cooked itself while shooting video outdoors one sunny morning. 12 minutes into the footage audio deteriorated, started crackling. 17 minutes camera shut down. Whole morning shoot abandoned. Taken back to store, they replaced the motherboard. So it is a thing, particularly in warmer climates. I have also had a lot of trouble with the camera draining the battery while camera is turned off. So reach into camera bag and nup, camera is dead. Wifi and Viltrox adapter appear to be the culprits.
My R6 works exactly as it should with the ancient EF 24mm f/2.8 (auto focus, auto aperture, non IS), EF 50mm f/1.4 auto focus, auto aperture, non IS), Samyang 24mm Tilt Shift f/'3.5 (manual focus, manual aperture, non IS), EF-S 10-18mm (auto focus, auto aperture, IS), Samyang 8mm (manual focus, manual aperture, non IS) and the Samyang 14mm f/2.8 (manual focus, manual aperture, non IS) lenses. IBIS Stabilization works on all the non IS lenses, and focus peaking works on all the manual focusing lenses. I use the Canon Control Ring adaptor.
I currently shoot on the Canon EOS RP & my next upgrade will definitely be the R6, it looks like an absolute beast for the type of shooting I do which is street, commercial portrait & events
Use an RP now also. Shoot a lot of wildlife, need that quicker more versatile focus. A little concerned about giving up 6mp as I have to crop quite a bit.
I have the Canon EF 300 2.8 IS and use it for college sports on the R6. Wow. Works perfectly with a slightly slower frame rate BUT if I need more I use the electronic shutter. I don't spray and pray so I can always get what I need either way. Also, if I want 10 fps I slap it on the 7D MII.
I have used Canon 24-70 f2.8 1st version, Sigma 35 1.4 Art and Yongnuo 35 f2 and I never had af issues. Even with very cheap yongnuo af was great, fast and accurate. I've switched from Sony A7rII to EOS R6 and I am totally fine.
Great video. I use the EF 500mm F/4 L IS USM version 1 with my R6 and it works fantastic. Shutter on mechanical is about 7 to 9 frames maybe. Haven’t actually tested because it doesn’t bother me. If I need more I just switch it to electronic.
Just bought the R6 yesterday! It will arrive tomorrow. I can't wait to start using it. You can imagine how much of an upgrade it will be for me from using a 70d and a 90d. But I do have the EF 70-200 LIII and can't wait to see the results!
I LOVE my R6. I sometimes wish I had more MP, but it has yet to be a problem in all honesty; just need something to complain about! 😜 I have no RF glass at all and adapt all of my lenses. I have yet to run into a lens that does not work.
@@rabobravo I have a 20mm Sigma Art 1.4, a 50mm Canon 1.8, a 50mm Sigma Art 1.4, a Canon 85mm 1.8, a Canon 135mm 2.0, and the Sigma 150-600mm with 1.4x teleconverter
After over a year I can say: I love my R6 BUT hate just 3 things (just those three): - It’s not possible to set custom mode for video (switching between 30 and 120fps with single click would be great) -It’s not possible to use autofocus touch on screen while using external screen (not external recorder like Atomos, but simple screen) -no mini-xlr/xlr input… Those 3 things are tempting me to sell it and buy C70 or some other fancy stuff…
I have the R6 for about 2weeks and love it. Turned off the image review, using 2 x lexar 64gb x1667 speedy cards(2nd card used as backup). One thing I wish I'd known using efs lens lowers the 20 MP sensor to 7.7 MP. Ended up just buying RF 24-240MM NO Problems. Was using Tamron aps-c 18-400 mm that lowered to 7.7 MP. Also if using Old/new Manual lens turn on "release shutter withiut lens attached "
Wait... if you use the EFS to RF adaptor you shoot at 7.7MP? That's absolutely way too low. Am I missing something here? Why would the camera need to lower the image resolution? I know this comment is old but it'd be amazing if you could clarify for me, I was thinking of buying an R6 but this has stumped me.
I tested the R6 with the 24-105 f4 L IS USM, 70-200 f2.8 L IS USM, 100-400 f4.5-5.6 L IS USM and the 300 f2.8 L IS USM - all of them are the Mark I version and all of them work great with the Canon Ring Adapter. The 100-400 struggled a bit focusing with a 2x II Extender when focusing on close subjects, but I just tested this briefly, could also be related to bad light conditions during the test.
I'm using the Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L USM IS lens date code January 2008 with the adapter on both the Canon R5 and R6. The lens works just fine. Focus acquisition is a little slower but I think that's more because of the lens being over 13 years old and it wasn't necessarily super fast on the Canon 5D Mark IV either.
I have a range of EF lenses that all work EF 24-70F2.8L (series 1) Ef70-200 F2.8L (series 1) and a crop of third party lines that all work. My only lens that doesn’t is the Tamron 150-600 version 1. I have been advised a firmware fix on the lens will correct this but I need to send my lens to Perth from Sydney and that don’t work for me
Thank you for all the videos pertaining to the R6. It is your videos that helped me make the decision to get the R6 list week I have been shooting sports that my kids participate in, mainly soccer and basketball as well as the occasional family photo. I am using the Canon 70-200 mm non-IS with a 1.4x extender. In my initial shots that has worked well and do not see any issues. Will get a better feel once the the outdoor soccer season starts next week. Again thank you for your videos.
Great video Rob :) I use the R6 commercially for video and photography and the overheating is real. However, it's only an issue when doing long video shoots where you need the camera on for extended time. Even with the Ninja V, the overheating does happen. I did weddings and events and from this real-world use I can say you definetly need to actively keep turning the camera off when not shooting as much as possible. Even with the Ninja, the over heating will come if you leave the camera on. That said, I live in a tropical climate, and we recently shot a wedding all day and only saw the overheat warning pop up once (accidently left the R6 on after shooting for a while) then turned it off for 10 mins and it was fine all day. Here's some 4k 60 10-bit 422 Prores (via Ninja V) from the R6 I shot ua-cam.com/video/TRTrh52tHwE/v-deo.html&ab_channel=CreatorsLife
My engineering analysis is that it's not physically possible to downscale an 8K image and record high bit rates in a DSLR-sized body because it will overheat, you require a fan and/or an external recorder; hens why the FX3 has a fan. The R6 doesn't overheat when you line skip, and 8K can line skip with integer math, but it does overheat when you down sample. I personally would prefer a 10 or 12MP stacked sensor. I'm not really trying to blow up my photos to building scale. It's more over does this tool work well for you? That $3000 Canon 28-70mm RF f/2.0 lens is dreamy. It convinced me to sell my 3 Canon M6 Mark II and EF-M lens collection for a Sony A7C full-frame camera with a Tamron 28-75mm and 17-28 f/2.8 lens. It's pretty close and has unlimited record time, but sucky 8-bit 4:2:2 with micro HDMI. It still has rolling shutter. Rolling shutter is just a part of high megapixel cameras. You need a stacked sensor like the Sony ZV-1, RX10, or RX100, but the low-light sucks on those. They are great cameras though, I've got the ZV-1 and RX10 IV and they're a great pair with the full-frame.
I love my r6, I use the 300mm 2.8 l non is on it and it’s fantastic. I think that lens is from the 90s I think. I can look when I get home to get the specific date code. I’ve never had an issue with my camera knock on wood lol. My 300mm is from 92 lol it sings on this body... Never had an issue with it on my 1div either
Hi Rob, My R6 is threat. It works fine with adaptor with EF 28-105 3.5-4.5 EF 28-80 3.5-5.6 EF 40 2.8 STM EF 70-300 4-5.6 IS II USM EF 100 2.8 L IS USM Tamron 18-270 3.5-6.3 Thanks for your comments.
I am using a Canon 600mm f4 L IS (Mk I) with the R6. I shoot almost exclusively wildlife and I have to say the R6 has given this lens a new lease of life. AF is quicker and sharper than with my 5d IV and I get the full 20 fps in electronic shutter mode, which gives the added bonus of being totally silent. The only thing I would say is that the focus preset button on the 600 does not seem to work on the R6.
@@getwetsoon the optical viewfinder is definitely better, the R6 EVF is slow to spool up from switch on also you need the camera on all the time just to get an idea of composition not good considering the battery life. With the 5D you don’t get the warped look on some fast moving objects I believe its called rolling shutter warp which is quite common on mirrorless camera. The R6 auto focus is better but you do need the RF lenses to get full benefit. When i look at upgrading i look to see if the upgrades will have a benefit to my work to justify the expense and for me the R6b although a great camera just dosen’t cut it
All my Tamron lens work--granted several of them had to be sent for a free update, and several I updated with the dock. I even have totally manual lens that will work.
I also have the 70-200mm f/2.8 IS I, and can confirm the 9fps, same with my 24 year old 17-35mm f/2.8L lens... I don't really mind too much actually though because I'm a little trigger happy and it helps me control that a bit 😂
Yeah, I have the first gen 70-200mm f/2.8 IS as well and it was a bit of a bummer with the crippled fps in mechanical mode. I did use it shooting surfing last week and was able to use the 20 fps electronic and it was awesome.
@Rocco Germani Hi may I ask you about the performance of 17-35mm f/2.8L on R6? I own this lens while using aps-c sensor and I would like to upgrade to R6. However I heard that this lens has image quality problems on full frame cameras but I can't find any evidence of that since there are almost non reviews for full frame.
@@marekspitalsky8863 the 17-35 is an excellent lens on crop sensor, before I got the R6 I had a T6i and used it on there. There are two issues with my lens that make me want to upgrade in the future, the first one is just a problem that I uncovered: the switch for autofocus and manual focus on the lens isn't screwed in like the newer ones, so it can easily be popped off, and that's what happened when I was shooting basketball. I was able to put it back on the lens but it no longer is able to switch to manual focus, so it is stuck in autofocus. Just something to watch out for. Now image quality is a great question. On full frame it is definitely softer in the corners, but only at 17mm. When you zoom in to 35mm it goes away. Unfortunately there is a ton of chromatic aberration at 17mm too, and I mean a ton. I was unable to correct it in lightroom on a few occasions, it's that bad. It really depends on what you're shooting so it could be better or worse depending on that. If you'd like to see some photos I've taken with the R6 and 17-35 you can view a few on my Instagram: @oneandonlyrocco. A majority of my photos that have been posted since September were taken with the R6 and 17-35. It's a great lens, but I think in the future I might upgrade to either a newer 16-35 or bust the bank and go for the 15-35 RF.
I felt my R6 gets warm but ‘no overheating warning’, it’s something I didn’t experience or felt with my Canon 70d, 1d4, 5dsr, EOS Rp and EOS R. Happy with my R6 though in spite of ‘getting warm’ issue.
It overheats in hot weather in a house with AC very easily. I've done many real estate videos in homes on the bay area coast with no issues. 95 degree day in Sacramento in brand new home with ac on the camera was overheating way to fast. couldn't actually do the whole house if i was only packing the R6.....
Overhearing isn’t a myth. My R6 overheated on me shooting a vlog for 1hr start/stop. And if you’re a filmmaker you will be shooting 4k a lot. If you’re a documentary filmmaker sometimes you need to shoot all day so yo say that it isn’t a myth isn’t true.
I disagree with the overheating not being a problem I mean I do think people blow it out of proportion but I hit the overheating pretty often even at 4k 24fps. I also do notice lag in the viewfinder in dark situations almost never when I'm outside with decent light.
yeah - I’ve found the same but only in extreme low light. the expo simulation seems coupled to AF. If you have shutter release coupled to AF lock, it can definitively lag and slow down response as you wait for the camera to adjust its sensitivity in the live image/viewfinder preview before you can pull the trigger. This is why I still keep my 5d4 for low light situations where the focus assist LED from triggers and speed lights will allow me to get a prompt focus lock in near complete darkness
How long do you shoot video? I am thinking about using the camera for sports. I would like to be able to experiment with video segments for American football and basketball.
@@steveseaney6840 I can set it to 4k c-log doesn't matter if it's 24,30,60fps I can record 25mins (the time canon says it can do even has a timer right there when you start) once I hit that 25min record time limit it's physically warm to the touch and the overheating symbol will flash. You have to wait around 20-30 mins for it to cool back down to be able to shoot another 25min clip. You can get away with little 1-2 min clips after the initial long 25 min. Now that doesn't sound that bad and it isn't I love my r6 don't get me wrong but if your like me you'll hit that limit more often then you think you would.
@@PPNJ Thanks a lot for the reply. American Football is 4 seconds of action and 20 minutes of planning; I always stop the video during the planning. I usually break up my basketball video segments when the ball is inbounded, official calls, time outs, etc. I doubt I film more then 5 mins at a shot. Half time is usually 10 minutes. Does the camera cool down if I take stills?
@@steveseaney6840 it will cool down if you switch to photos for a while but the heat factor when recording video is accumulative so you'll see a timer that tells you what the longest clip you can record is. When you use it a bit the timer will go to 15 mins then 10 mins then 5 and you would need to wait at least 10-15 mins after any single clip to regain your timer back to say the 20 or 25 min limit. It's hard to explain but once you really start using it for video it definitely overheats in my view kind of quickly but don't get me wrong it does what canon says it does and the footage is beautiful I really do love the R6
Had the R6 for a couple of weeks now and I'm very happy with it, I've kept my 80D but have noticed a huge improvement in my keeper rate for birds in flight. I was trying out the electronic shutter with blue tits flying in and out of a nest, and only noticed one image where the rolling shutter seems to have caused any noticeable distortion. As regards lenses I've got a very old EF50 1.4 and the original Sigma 70-200 ex dg hsm, when I attach them the display is blinking white, which according to the manual means I can only shoot at 6.8 fps, both of these lenses are 20 odd years old, and it's most probably unreasonable to expect them to perform at the same level as newer lenses. These are the only 2 lenses that I have experienced any issues with.
Have you noticed a dip in performance and quality using your EF 50mm 1.4 with the adapted on the R6? I wanna get the R6 as a main and keep my 80D as a backup but I want to make sure my EF lenses will perform just as good
@@Maximilan20 I've not noticed any dip at all compared to the 80D, it's not a lens I use a lot though. The lens that I use most is the Sigma 150-600C, and I'm very happy using that with my Viltrox adaptor.
I'm using the 85 1.8, 50 1.8 ii, and the 70-200 f4 L and all work great with my canon RP. I even have tried my sigma 17-50 2.8 and even thst works fine.
Great video. One point I ran into this week . Wanted to use the electronic shutter to during a volleyball game. I could not get it to work. when I got home realized I had to turn off the anti flicker setting then it will work. I will try it at the next match.
Hi Rob. I shoot fast moving flight shots of birds. I do notice still the bird freezing in the viewfinder in mechanical shutter mode. Like the bird is flying in slow motion. It is a bit annoying, as I have to predict that the bird is moving fast instead of going by the camera slowing down the bird so to speak. Is there a setting I am missing? I believe I turned off the image review so I don’t think it’s that issue. Any thoughts? It happened on the 10-500 the other day. Thanks.
Great video, thanks! Sold all my Nikon DSLR kit to wait out the mirrorless wars and see which system to buy into.... looks like it may come down to an R6 or X-T4... or perhaps a used A7RIII and Tammy 28-200. Have always loved Canon (1st real camera was the EOS 650), and enjoyed most everything about the RP but the sensor and sent it back... Wish the R6 was 30 mp... BUT, what a great and tried and true sensor! Great content, thanks.
hey Rob, when you talk of the R6 'working' with some EF lenses, are you meaning at full fps, i.e. 12 in mechanical? I hear somewhere there's a list that Canon have released of EF lenses that arent capable of 12fps with the R6. I have the 70-200 mk3, I know that does, and 300 f4 and old 24-105 that I hear doesnt. Also, have you used the Sigma 120-300 2.8? Im not sure if youve done a Vid on it! Keep up the good work!
Great video and at last somebody says what I figure since I got it. Im an Tamron user and they works just fine. I got this 15-30 G2 35-150 G2 and a 150-600 G2 and I like them.
Doesn't turning off image preview just add viewfinder blackout? It may be a bit easier for some people to track motion as such but I'm still missing motion that I would see with an optical finder.
Both. But depends what you want. If you are missing focus a lot then better camera. If you want more background blur ect, lens. I love my 85mm 1.8 . I prefer prime lenses. I also have 6D. Thinking of upgrading to r5 and considering getting 24-70 f2.8 or 28-70 f2.0 all so expensive lol so also debating r6. I find myself missing focus often for moving subjects. But love my 6d for product photography
I wanted to hate on the R6 for only having 20Mpixels but the camera has only impressed me with its low light abilities and amazing animal tracking. However I do miss the 4k 120 of the R5.
I am THIS close *squeezes finger together * to pull the trigger on that camera... I really don't care much about any film-related issues, because I would pretty much exclusively use it for still photography - and even the "small" megapixel-count doesn't bother me, because I would upgrade from my trusty old 550D. It's just a whole lot money for someone who just does photography as a hobby... but daaaang, it's one sexy piece of tech.
Thanks for this video, Rob. I've been worried about the overheating issue, but am going to buy the R6 now. Can you comment on the quality of 4K in Movie Cropping mode? Reason is I have an 80D with an 18-135mm EF-S lens that has a PZ-E1 Power Zoom adapter. I love that lens! But will the 4K look bad compared with the 4K oversampled from 5.1K using say the RF 24-105mm kit lens, apart from the fact that that RF glass is better?
Documentation says that the battery must be > 50% to get 12 fps. As soon as I read it, I thought "not for me" How could one even think about putting such restriction? it is like a sick joke...
Regarding lens compatibility does the R6 still limit VIDEO frame rates on EF-S lenses? One major downside I found when purchasing my EOS-R was that with an EFS lens the video is limited to 25fps (50fps is available but not in full HD).
I use the EF 35mm f2IS, EF 24-70mm f2.8L II, Sigma EF 50mm 1.4 Art, and they all work perfectly with the adaptor on my EOS R. However my EF 100mm 2.8L IS Macro gives me errors occasionally, and I need to power down the camera for it to re-set. This is very random and I don't know why it happens. I've tried cleaning the connectors, but still get the occasional error.
My ef lenses works fine with rf adapter…50L 1.2, 85L 1.2 mkii, 35L 1.4 mki, 16-35L 2.8 mkii, 100L is 2.8, 70-200L is 2.8 mki, 35 f2 is…but what do you know about ibis with ef is lenses?
I currently use the Tamron 24-70 G2 and Tamron 70-200 G2 with the adapter, as well as Canon 50 1.8 (which ive had from my days with the 80D), and they all works perfectly with the adapter. BTW, Im using the R5
I’m ALSO using the same lens TAMRON 24-70 f2.8 with the control ring adápter and in Video, it records with JUMPS in the image.. and it does it ALL TIME!! Its TERRIBLE!! I was about to return iT, until the store guy did some test with Canon Original lenses and worked flawlessly !! Im really worried because i relly a Lot in that expensive lens, and now.. becomes garbage!! BTW im using the R6
I have only been using about 2 months but loving my r6. The 100-500 rf is a lot of fun and getting some great shots. For me the controls just seem to be where I want them.
I feel when anything new comes out there are always the snipers. Do they not realise how much R&D goes into creating a new lens/camera. I've had a Canon 5D MkII for 10 years and love it but saving for the R6. Enjoyed your video very much and nice to know all the so called issues aren't really that bad. I've also shot football and it's usually in the first few frames when you time the 'Shot' so 9 fps is fine. The 5D was 5 fps without the E1 booster. Have you used an 85mm F1.8 with the EF adapter, I do some environmental portraiture and I'm interested in the result from that on the R6? Thank you.
Will the RF to EF adaptor do continuous focus for video filming. Is that combination reliable to do a good professional job...? just curious... I know the smooth and fast focusing has to do with Step Motor Lens ...is that true...by any chance do you have a sample video to show. Thanks for all your time and effort in doing this.
Have been a Canon user for over 40 years and bought the R6 soon after it was released, best camera I have ever had. Don't normally leave comments but have just stumbled on your channel and love your style and straight talking.
I cannot praise my R6 enough. It's the most versatile camera I've ever owned. Every time someone asks me how I'm getting on with it, I end up doing an unpaid commercial. (Are you listening, Canon? ;-D )
Haha I know the feeling
Yes, same here. I was super reluctant ‘downgrading’, well, what I thought was a downgrade from a 1DXMKII. Not one regret, and already have my MKii for sale to make room for a 2nd R6 body.
@@RobSambles I'm using a Sigma 28-70mm EX Aspherical DF... I can't really find original official info about it but some forums mention it as far back as 2005. No issues whatsoever (apart from the issues I have with that lens on any occasion, which are in no way R6 related or specific)
Its autofocus mechanism is slow, loud and clunky and I still get about 8 frames per second with mechanical shutter.
Between 13-16 fps on electronic shutter. I did make it hard for the lens by moving to and away from the subject, the subject being an online stopwatch with milliseconds displayed. :)
Proper science LOL
With auto-focus off, I got 19 fps.
Only one addition/ correction about the overheating issue - it's massively region-specific. I'm based in South India where the climate is exactly as hot as you'd think and I tested the R6 on the latest firmware in April this year. For video, it would consistently let me record about 12-15 minutes (working on a doc about agricultural co-ops in rural India) before overheating and then the cooldown period was unpredictable. This was already known. The unpleasant surprise was while shooting stills. I have to correct Rob and say that in some conditions, it absolutely will overheat and did for me. It did not shut down but it gave me a temperature warning, at which point I didn't risk it further because that would've compromised video shooting. So, my conclusion is that the R6 is undoubtedly a terrific camera for many people, but it just isn't fit for purpose in all conditions, particularly warm climates. Cheers.
You forgot the myth, '20 megapixels isn't enough'. A little research shows it's more than enough to print large and if you want to crop, it's also fine. You can use something like Gigapixel A1 if you're really worried and if you have to massively crop - there's something wrong with your photography. How did people survive before 20 plus megapixel cameras?
I was worried when looking at this camera, that my tele lenses wouldn't work as they are old first generation - 500mm f4 Mk1 and the 400mm f5.6. I still have my Sigma 500mm f4.5, old and 3rd party, and they all work fine.
I'm coming from a 16MP Nikon D7000. This will be an upgrade in megapixels for me 😄
Rolling shutter is not a real issue for me when it comes to basketball but I still prefer to shoot with mechanical shutter. With volleyball it can be problematic. As long as you don't move in the horizontal plane when taking photos the rolling shutter is not an issue. But when the ball is moving from the top of the frame to the bottom of the frame the ball will deform a lot. It almost starts to look like a rugby ball, even with high shutter speed. So when you shoot volleybal, I don't recommend using the electronic shutter.
I also still use EF lenses and all my lenses are compatible with the EF/RF adapter but not all are compatible for high speed shooting when using the mechanical shutter. Here is my list:
* Canon EF 20mm F/2.8 USM: compatible, no high speed
* Canon EF-S 17-55mm F/2.8 USM: compatible, no high speed
* Canon EF 50mm F/1.4 USM: compatible, no high speed
* Canon EF 70-200mm F/2.8 L IS III USM: compatible, high speed
* Canon EF 85mm F/1.8 USM: compatible, no high speed
* Canon EF 100mm F/2.8 L IS USM Macro: compatible, high speed
* Sigma 120-300mm F/2.8 DG OS HSM Sport: compatible, no high speed
After doing 40+ Wedding with a photographer/videographer who uses the Canon R6, yes, it overheats! We have had them overheat during the ceremony and toast constantly. Luckily we have other cameras as a backup. I personally use the Nikon Z6/Nikon Z6 II and have no problems at all.
Rob as an R6 sceptic for a number of reason,I would agreed with you on all these. The only one I have experienced is the buffering but will up my cards to 250mbs from 125 and see. I don’t own any RF glass and happily use the following with the converter
Canon ef 17-24 l mk I Ef 24 - 70 mkii, ef 300 f4 mkii 70-200 f2.8 mkiii 400. f2.8 mkii. Have also tried the sigma 150-600 f5.6-6.3 Sport all work fine
I used a friend's R6/500 F4 IS (version 1) and it stopped focusing twice in 20 mins (the dreaded locked red AF point). Another friend was using the same type of lens on his R5 at the same location and said yes, it does happen on occasion for him too. However, I use the R5 with the Version 2 of the 500 and have NEVER had a problem, outside of one lock up of the entire camera since launch.
Great video Rob! Everyday my R6's impress me more and more. I'll be doing video work with the R6 today, and this evening I'm shooting high school basketball. I have zero concerns.
Thank you for your reviews about Canon R6, it helped me to make decision to buy it for sports photography. Recived mine last saturday with RF70-200F4 lens and tested it shooting motocross. AF and eye tracking worked really well, it even identifyed eye trough motocross googles from 15-20m away. Electronic shutter and 20fps worked surprisingly well, even to consider that i shot RAW photos. In summary, R6 is just a fantastic camera, considering that i went to R6 from 1D Mark III and i really recommend it for budget sports photography, if you compare the price with 1D :)
That's great info
The oldest EF lens I have on hand is the EF 28-105 f3.5-4.5 USM and it works just fine. I do have a couple of EF-S lenses and I wish canon would give you the option to not auto crop to 1.6 so I could crop where I want from whatever image it gives, but they work fine too otherwise. There is a slight confusion adapting vintage glass, you have to poke a setting allowing the shutter to fire "with no lens attached", but once done vintage works well too. I did run into a mild issue with the shutter, in electronic first curtain mode at 1/8000th I get a black band at the bottom of frame, but it goes away in full mechanical or full electronic mode.
I photographed NFL games on an original Canon 5D for years. These new cameras are astronomically better than that and people still complain about them.
Fantastic - I'd love an opportunity to shoot some NFL
5:02 The slower FPS is true for sure. But it’s not a deal breaker for me! Great video! 😃🙌🏽🔥
I can also confirm that the "very old" EF 300 f4 L works brilliantly with the R6.Sharp and fast focus, inc animal eye.
Agreed!
Works with the IS version too ...
@@daveandjoannenoordhoff Yes. An the IS was left from my post. So to confirm mine is the IS version also
My EF 80-200MM L is working better on the R6 than all of my previous Canon
This is good to know, thanks 😊
To be fair, the overheating issue is the only one of these five I’d heard of. I have experienced overheating while filming 4K on interviews. It’s not ideal but it’s not my main camera for stuff like that (it’s mainly for stills) so I’m not too bothered. It is a real thing though.
That said, I really like my R6. A great little camera for the price.
Also if you if you have the digital lens optimizer set to high it would slow down the buffer and you won't be able to preview your photos because it takes longer to save to the sd card.👍
Great information, thank you. Just got my R6 a few weeks ago and am already loving it. Being able to customize the buttons and dials, including the lens dial, gives me so much easy control. As with everyone, I assume, blown away by the AF. And thank you for the links to the equipment you use.
Glad I could help!
For the „old EF lens“-part: I’m using an old CANON EF 15mm Fisheye on the R6 with adapter… works fine as well 👍🏻
Best lens Ever
I have had the R6 for only 3 months. I am using a Sigma Art EF 24-70mm f/2.8 and a Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 ii with the control ring adapter. I haven't had any problems so far using the adapter. I shoot mostly my own kiddos, some travel and some Middle/High School sports. Really looking forward to putting it through its paces this fall when sports are in full swing again. :) Thank you for your very informative videos. :)
I know this is an old comment Jennifer but it's great that you got on R6. That Sigma 24-70 is a great focal range
No dedicated photo/video switch and you cant save custom video settings are my biggest drawback on the R6. If it could switch fast and efficiently for hybrid work it would be an outstanding camera for me.
To avoid viewfinder lag you need to change the display refresh rate from Power Saving (60Hz)--which is the default--to Smooth (120Hz). (Menu item: Wrench--8: Display Performance)
R6 doesn't have 120hz as R5
@@M4TR1X What does changing from “Power Saving” to “Smooth” do? It certainly reduced the jitteriness of the image in the viewfinder during a football game.
Rob, once again a cracking video, 100% agree with what you say. Do you think some UA-camrs exaggerated "their
perceived problems" to get more traffic on their sites? Or do you think some people simply don't use their cameras properly or don't know how to set them up correctly ?
P.s I regularly used my 24-105 mm IS L MK I on my R6 and it works a treat.
Thank you, I wouldn't necessarily say that they were exaggerated, perhaps it was from less usage of the camera or simply following the general opinion.
Old EF lenses on modern Canons - mention this! I switched late to Canon, in 2019. In analogue times I prefered Nikon. I bought in summer 2018 a very good old cam bag in a charity store for €15. In the bag was an old EOS 500 with 35-70mm lens, both made in the 1990s. This gave me the ieda to give Canon a try. I bought a cheap EOS 40D with shuttercount about 4000 in august 2018 an mounted the old 35-70 lens. AF okay and fast, image quality outdated. March 2019 I bought another used but very good cam bag, it was sold with a another EOS 500, a 28-80 and a 80-200 lens, all made in the 1990s, too. Both lenses worked on the 40D very good and fine. But this was the reason why now I switched to Canon. I will mention only my "worst" Canons, the EOS 77D and the R. I own modern lenses for both and I use some EF glass on both, e.g. the 40mm pancake. I tested all the old glass made for 35mm film cams on all my modern digital Canons and it is amazing. The Af ist fast and accurate, the AF tops often the AF of some Fujifilm AP-C with Fujinon lenses, both, the cams and lenses made 30 years after the old Canon glass. Later I tested all old Canon glass with the R and the EF Adapter and it's the same story: astonishing fast and good AF for these old glasses. Compared to this some high priced modern SIGMA AF and EF-S lenses have less good or slower AF on Canon APS-C or FF cams. In 2019 I got a brandnew Yongnuo 50mm/f1.8 for peanuts. I bought it to try out what one can expect from thies cheap one. It's a bad lens. The AF fails often, it's AF is slow and it pumps. Adopted to the Canon EOS R with the EF adapter it worked much better as on my APS-C Canons or my fullframe Canon DSLRs. I also used a now sold EF 70-200 USM IS and a very old push-pull 70-200/f4 AF lens on the R. Both worked fine and AF was fast. In my opnion Canon is the best choice over Nikon and Sony, because every old glass you have and every less you can afford will work, some good, some with lacks, some very good.
for my r6, overheating is a bit of a problem for video, not so much for photography. if you're gonna use it for long takes as your A cam then you'll definitely need an external recorder or to shoot in 1080p, but otherwise you'll definitely be okay if you're taking shorter clips with time in between in 4k30/60. I spent 2 days shooting some BTS for a music video with just the R6, it overheated once, and that was because I forgot to stop rolling while i was eating. other times its definitely gotten really hot while its been powered through USB-C on my v-mount while recording externally, but didn't shut off, but definitely was giving me the heat warning. if you use the r6 primarily for photos you'll never encounter overheating, but probably will if you're doing video.
That rolling shutter myth talk really made me shoot only mechanical for the first month or two then cautiously move to electronic over a few small testing periods before I realized people are just being dramatic and the electronic shutter is amazing
@@TimHuhtala well that I’m not 100% sure if it’s the same between the R5 and the R6, because I shoot the R5...but for R5 specs the faster the shot the less bit depth.
14bit electronic and mechanical single shot, then H+ drops mechanical to 13bit and electronic to 12bit.
For me personally, I don’t notice much of a difference when it drops the depth, so the trade off for a much faster fraction of a second moment is worth it.
Pretty sure the 1DX III also has a 12bit at 20fps
When you're panning quickly is the only time you have to worry about the rolling shutter. One of the best bird bird in flight shots I've ever got had tilted trees in the background. Took me 6 hours in photoshop to fix it. So for that type of photography I've learned my lesson and reverted to mechanical.
@@TimHuhtala Yes and you shooting with maximum bit depth shooting that way as well. This helps image quality in high dynamic range scenarios.
Great video, thank you. I also love my R6👍🏻 my 50 1.2, 35 1.4, 85 1.2 etc, all works great
anticipate the shot and know when to take it and the lack FPS won't matter! the biggest thing ive learned.
My R6 cooked itself while shooting video outdoors one sunny morning. 12 minutes into the footage audio deteriorated, started crackling. 17 minutes camera shut down. Whole morning shoot abandoned. Taken back to store, they replaced the motherboard. So it is a thing, particularly in warmer climates.
I have also had a lot of trouble with the camera draining the battery while camera is turned off. So reach into camera bag and nup, camera is dead. Wifi and Viltrox adapter appear to be the culprits.
My R6 works exactly as it should with the ancient EF 24mm f/2.8 (auto focus, auto aperture, non IS), EF 50mm f/1.4 auto focus, auto aperture, non IS), Samyang 24mm Tilt Shift f/'3.5 (manual focus, manual aperture, non IS), EF-S 10-18mm (auto focus, auto aperture, IS), Samyang 8mm (manual focus, manual aperture, non IS) and the Samyang 14mm f/2.8 (manual focus, manual aperture, non IS) lenses. IBIS Stabilization works on all the non IS lenses, and focus peaking works on all the manual focusing lenses. I use the Canon Control Ring adaptor.
Wow lovely
I use the 11-24 f4 and the 135 f2 on eos R with adapter. Works perfectly fine. So I assume it would be the same on a newer camera
I currently shoot on the Canon EOS RP & my next upgrade will definitely be the R6, it looks like an absolute beast for the type of shooting I do which is street, commercial portrait & events
Use an RP now also. Shoot a lot of wildlife, need that quicker more versatile focus. A little concerned about giving up 6mp as I have to crop quite a bit.
I have the Canon EF 300 2.8 IS and use it for college sports on the R6. Wow. Works perfectly with a slightly slower frame rate BUT if I need more I use the electronic shutter. I don't spray and pray so I can always get what I need either way. Also, if I want 10 fps I slap it on the 7D MII.
Great videos on the R6, as someone that shoots fast indoor sports too you sure convinced me the r6 is the next step to take 👏🏻
I have used Canon 24-70 f2.8 1st version, Sigma 35 1.4 Art and Yongnuo 35 f2 and I never had af issues. Even with very cheap yongnuo af was great, fast and accurate. I've switched from Sony A7rII to EOS R6 and I am totally fine.
Great video. I use the EF 500mm F/4 L IS USM version 1 with my R6 and it works fantastic. Shutter on mechanical is about 7 to 9 frames maybe. Haven’t actually tested because it doesn’t bother me. If I need more I just switch it to electronic.
Just bought the R6 yesterday! It will arrive tomorrow. I can't wait to start using it. You can imagine how much of an upgrade it will be for me from using a 70d and a 90d. But I do have the EF 70-200 LIII and can't wait to see the results!
Does yours shake internally when switched off
I LOVE my R6. I sometimes wish I had more MP, but it has yet to be a problem in all honesty; just need something to complain about! 😜 I have no RF glass at all and adapt all of my lenses. I have yet to run into a lens that does not work.
Could you comment what lenses are the ones you have? I'm about to buy an R6 but RF lenses are too expensive...
@@rabobravo I have a 20mm Sigma Art 1.4, a 50mm Canon 1.8, a 50mm Sigma Art 1.4, a Canon 85mm 1.8, a Canon 135mm 2.0, and the Sigma 150-600mm with 1.4x teleconverter
After over a year I can say: I love my R6 BUT hate just 3 things (just those three):
- It’s not possible to set custom mode for video (switching between 30 and 120fps with single click would be great)
-It’s not possible to use autofocus touch on screen while using external screen (not external recorder like Atomos, but simple screen)
-no mini-xlr/xlr input…
Those 3 things are tempting me to sell it and buy C70 or some other fancy stuff…
I have the R6 for about 2weeks and love it. Turned off the image review, using 2 x lexar 64gb x1667 speedy cards(2nd card used as backup).
One thing I wish I'd known using efs lens lowers the 20 MP sensor to 7.7 MP. Ended up just buying RF 24-240MM NO Problems. Was using Tamron aps-c 18-400 mm that lowered to 7.7 MP.
Also if using Old/new Manual lens turn on "release shutter withiut lens attached "
Yes I discovered I needed to do that because of several Tokina lens I have.
Wait... if you use the EFS to RF adaptor you shoot at 7.7MP? That's absolutely way too low. Am I missing something here? Why would the camera need to lower the image resolution? I know this comment is old but it'd be amazing if you could clarify for me, I was thinking of buying an R6 but this has stumped me.
@@kjduncan1 EF To RF adapter, 7.7 MP is only when using efs lenses. It you use EF lenses it's fine
I tested the R6 with the 24-105 f4 L IS USM, 70-200 f2.8 L IS USM, 100-400 f4.5-5.6 L IS USM and the 300 f2.8 L IS USM - all of them are the Mark I version and all of them work great with the Canon Ring Adapter. The 100-400 struggled a bit focusing with a 2x II Extender when focusing on close subjects, but I just tested this briefly, could also be related to bad light conditions during the test.
Did you get 12 fps with the 300 2.8? And what about with extender on the 300 2.8? 12 fps? Would love to know
I'm using the Canon EF 300mm f/2.8L USM IS lens date code January 2008 with the adapter on both the Canon R5 and R6. The lens works just fine. Focus acquisition is a little slower but I think that's more because of the lens being over 13 years old and it wasn't necessarily super fast on the Canon 5D Mark IV either.
I have a range of EF lenses that all work EF 24-70F2.8L (series 1) Ef70-200 F2.8L (series 1) and a crop of third party lines that all work. My only lens that doesn’t is the Tamron 150-600 version 1. I have been advised a firmware fix on the lens will correct this but I need to send my lens to Perth from Sydney and that don’t work for me
Thank you for all the videos pertaining to the R6. It is your videos that helped me make the decision to get the R6 list week I have been shooting sports that my kids participate in, mainly soccer and basketball as well as the occasional family photo. I am using the Canon 70-200 mm non-IS with a 1.4x extender. In my initial shots that has worked well and do not see any issues. Will get a better feel once the the outdoor soccer season starts next week. Again thank you for your videos.
Awesome thank you Terrance
Great video Rob :) I use the R6 commercially for video and photography and the overheating is real. However, it's only an issue when doing long video shoots where you need the camera on for extended time. Even with the Ninja V, the overheating does happen. I did weddings and events and from this real-world use I can say you definetly need to actively keep turning the camera off when not shooting as much as possible. Even with the Ninja, the over heating will come if you leave the camera on. That said, I live in a tropical climate, and we recently shot a wedding all day and only saw the overheat warning pop up once (accidently left the R6 on after shooting for a while) then turned it off for 10 mins and it was fine all day. Here's some 4k 60 10-bit 422 Prores (via Ninja V) from the R6 I shot ua-cam.com/video/TRTrh52tHwE/v-deo.html&ab_channel=CreatorsLife
Good insight thanks
Thanks for the informative videos...what adapter are you using? Canon or after market?
Canon official one. I did a video on the viltrox one though
My engineering analysis is that it's not physically possible to downscale an 8K image and record high bit rates in a DSLR-sized body because it will overheat, you require a fan and/or an external recorder; hens why the FX3 has a fan. The R6 doesn't overheat when you line skip, and 8K can line skip with integer math, but it does overheat when you down sample. I personally would prefer a 10 or 12MP stacked sensor. I'm not really trying to blow up my photos to building scale. It's more over does this tool work well for you? That $3000 Canon 28-70mm RF f/2.0 lens is dreamy. It convinced me to sell my 3 Canon M6 Mark II and EF-M lens collection for a Sony A7C full-frame camera with a Tamron 28-75mm and 17-28 f/2.8 lens. It's pretty close and has unlimited record time, but sucky 8-bit 4:2:2 with micro HDMI. It still has rolling shutter. Rolling shutter is just a part of high megapixel cameras. You need a stacked sensor like the Sony ZV-1, RX10, or RX100, but the low-light sucks on those. They are great cameras though, I've got the ZV-1 and RX10 IV and they're a great pair with the full-frame.
I'm just about replacing my 5D III (need 4K videos) with an R6. And this video really helped a lot, many thanks for that!
Great to hear!
In the R, if you press back focus button all time, no lag. Lag only when you stop focusing.
just got the R6 with 24 to 105, I have zero clue how to us it... but I am sure its going to be fun!
Excellent Rob. Too many people are to eager to believe theses myths perpetuated by people with a grudge against Canon
I love my r6, I use the 300mm 2.8 l non is on it and it’s fantastic. I think that lens is from the 90s I think. I can look when I get home to get the specific date code. I’ve never had an issue with my camera knock on wood lol.
My 300mm is from 92 lol it sings on this body... Never had an issue with it on my 1div either
great video man! Been thinking of upgrading, and you got me convinced!
Hi Rob, My R6 is threat. It works fine with adaptor with
EF 28-105 3.5-4.5
EF 28-80 3.5-5.6
EF 40 2.8 STM
EF 70-300 4-5.6 IS II USM
EF 100 2.8 L IS USM
Tamron 18-270 3.5-6.3
Thanks for your comments.
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What about plastic-toy feel myth?
The buffer capacity on the R6 is better than on the R5.
that's because the R5 has a 45 mp and the R6 just 20.1 mp. The files are less than 1/2 the size.
I am using a Canon 600mm f4 L IS (Mk I) with the R6. I shoot almost exclusively wildlife and I have to say the R6 has given this lens a new lease of life. AF is quicker and sharper than with my 5d IV and I get the full 20 fps in electronic shutter mode, which gives the added bonus of being totally silent. The only thing I would say is that the focus preset button on the 600 does not seem to work on the R6.
Hi Steve, I am using a Canon 500mm f4 is (MK I) with a R5. The focus preset button on the 500 does not work. I'm using the basis EF to RF adapter
I have the R6 great camera but I still keep using my 5D MK 4 as first choice, I shoot landscape mainly and just prefer the 5d.
where would you compare them in advantages / disadvantages? Thinking about getting the 5d mk iV or the R6 :)
@@getwetsoon the optical viewfinder is definitely better, the R6 EVF is slow to spool up from switch on also you need the camera on all the time just to get an idea of composition not good considering the battery life. With the 5D you don’t get the warped look on some fast moving objects I believe its called rolling shutter warp which is quite common on mirrorless camera. The R6 auto focus is better but you do need the RF lenses to get full benefit. When i look at upgrading i look to see if the upgrades will have a benefit to my work to justify the expense and for me the R6b although a great camera just dosen’t cut it
All my Tamron lens work--granted several of them had to be sent for a free update, and several I updated with the dock. I even have totally manual lens that will work.
Which Tamron lens are you using?
I also have the 70-200mm f/2.8 IS I, and can confirm the 9fps, same with my 24 year old 17-35mm f/2.8L lens... I don't really mind too much actually though because I'm a little trigger happy and it helps me control that a bit 😂
Yeah, I have the first gen 70-200mm f/2.8 IS as well and it was a bit of a bummer with the crippled fps in mechanical mode. I did use it shooting surfing last week and was able to use the 20 fps electronic and it was awesome.
@Rocco Germani Hi may I ask you about the performance of 17-35mm f/2.8L on R6? I own this lens while using aps-c sensor and I would like to upgrade to R6. However I heard that this lens has image quality problems on full frame cameras but I can't find any evidence of that since there are almost non reviews for full frame.
@@marekspitalsky8863 the 17-35 is an excellent lens on crop sensor, before I got the R6 I had a T6i and used it on there. There are two issues with my lens that make me want to upgrade in the future, the first one is just a problem that I uncovered: the switch for autofocus and manual focus on the lens isn't screwed in like the newer ones, so it can easily be popped off, and that's what happened when I was shooting basketball. I was able to put it back on the lens but it no longer is able to switch to manual focus, so it is stuck in autofocus. Just something to watch out for. Now image quality is a great question. On full frame it is definitely softer in the corners, but only at 17mm. When you zoom in to 35mm it goes away. Unfortunately there is a ton of chromatic aberration at 17mm too, and I mean a ton. I was unable to correct it in lightroom on a few occasions, it's that bad. It really depends on what you're shooting so it could be better or worse depending on that. If you'd like to see some photos I've taken with the R6 and 17-35 you can view a few on my Instagram: @oneandonlyrocco. A majority of my photos that have been posted since September were taken with the R6 and 17-35. It's a great lens, but I think in the future I might upgrade to either a newer 16-35 or bust the bank and go for the 15-35 RF.
@@RoccoGermani Thank you, really appreciate the commentary, it helps a lot.
I felt my R6 gets warm but ‘no overheating warning’, it’s something I didn’t experience or felt with my Canon 70d, 1d4, 5dsr, EOS Rp and EOS R. Happy with my R6 though in spite of ‘getting warm’ issue.
It overheats in hot weather in a house with AC very easily. I've done many real estate videos in homes on the bay area coast with no issues. 95 degree day in Sacramento in brand new home with ac on the camera was overheating way to fast. couldn't actually do the whole house if i was only packing the R6.....
Overhearing isn’t a myth. My R6 overheated on me shooting a vlog for 1hr start/stop. And if you’re a filmmaker you will be shooting 4k a lot. If you’re a documentary filmmaker sometimes you need to shoot all day so yo say that it isn’t a myth isn’t true.
I disagree with the overheating not being a problem I mean I do think people blow it out of proportion but I hit the overheating pretty often even at 4k 24fps. I also do notice lag in the viewfinder in dark situations almost never when I'm outside with decent light.
yeah - I’ve found the same but only in extreme low light. the expo simulation seems coupled to AF. If you have shutter release coupled to AF lock, it can definitively lag and slow down response as you wait for the camera to adjust its sensitivity in the live image/viewfinder preview before you can pull the trigger. This is why I still keep my 5d4 for low light situations where the focus assist LED from triggers and speed lights will allow me to get a prompt focus lock in near complete darkness
How long do you shoot video? I am thinking about using the camera for sports. I would like to be able to experiment with video segments for American football and basketball.
@@steveseaney6840 I can set it to 4k c-log doesn't matter if it's 24,30,60fps I can record 25mins (the time canon says it can do even has a timer right there when you start) once I hit that 25min record time limit it's physically warm to the touch and the overheating symbol will flash. You have to wait around 20-30 mins for it to cool back down to be able to shoot another 25min clip. You can get away with little 1-2 min clips after the initial long 25 min. Now that doesn't sound that bad and it isn't I love my r6 don't get me wrong but if your like me you'll hit that limit more often then you think you would.
@@PPNJ Thanks a lot for the reply. American Football is 4 seconds of action and 20 minutes of planning; I always stop the video during the planning. I usually break up my basketball video segments when the ball is inbounded, official calls, time outs, etc. I doubt I film more then 5 mins at a shot. Half time is usually 10 minutes.
Does the camera cool down if I take stills?
@@steveseaney6840 it will cool down if you switch to photos for a while but the heat factor when recording video is accumulative so you'll see a timer that tells you what the longest clip you can record is. When you use it a bit the timer will go to 15 mins then 10 mins then 5 and you would need to wait at least 10-15 mins after any single clip to regain your timer back to say the 20 or 25 min limit. It's hard to explain but once you really start using it for video it definitely overheats in my view kind of quickly but don't get me wrong it does what canon says it does and the footage is beautiful I really do love the R6
Had the R6 for a couple of weeks now and I'm very happy with it, I've kept my 80D but have noticed a huge improvement in my keeper rate for birds in flight. I was trying out the electronic shutter with blue tits flying in and out of a nest, and only noticed one image where the rolling shutter seems to have caused any noticeable distortion.
As regards lenses I've got a very old EF50 1.4 and the original Sigma 70-200 ex dg hsm, when I attach them the display is blinking white, which according to the manual means I can only shoot at 6.8 fps, both of these lenses are 20 odd years old, and it's most probably unreasonable to expect them to perform at the same level as newer lenses. These are the only 2 lenses that I have experienced any issues with.
Have you noticed a dip in performance and quality using your EF 50mm 1.4 with the adapted on the R6? I wanna get the R6 as a main and keep my 80D as a backup but I want to make sure my EF lenses will perform just as good
@@Maximilan20 I've not noticed any dip at all compared to the 80D, it's not a lens I use a lot though. The lens that I use most is the Sigma 150-600C, and I'm very happy using that with my Viltrox adaptor.
I'm using the 85 1.8, 50 1.8 ii, and the 70-200 f4 L and all work great with my canon RP. I even have tried my sigma 17-50 2.8 and even thst works fine.
Thanks for clearing that up! The R6 is clearly on the top of my Xmas-list this year :-)
Great video. One point I ran into this week . Wanted to use the electronic shutter to during a volleyball game. I could not get it to work. when I got home realized I had to turn off the anti flicker setting then it will work. I will try it at the next match.
Is it worth buying the r6 for social media photos?
Hi Rob. I shoot fast moving flight shots of birds. I do notice still the bird freezing in the viewfinder in mechanical shutter mode. Like the bird is flying in slow motion. It is a bit annoying, as I have to predict that the bird is moving fast instead of going by the camera slowing down the bird so to speak. Is there a setting I am missing? I believe I turned off the image review so I don’t think it’s that issue. Any thoughts? It happened on the 10-500 the other day. Thanks.
Love my R6 - what a beast
Great video, thanks! Sold all my Nikon DSLR kit to wait out the mirrorless wars and see which system to buy into.... looks like it may come down to an R6 or X-T4... or perhaps a used A7RIII and Tammy 28-200. Have always loved Canon (1st real camera was the EOS 650), and enjoyed most everything about the RP but the sensor and sent it back... Wish the R6 was 30 mp... BUT, what a great and tried and true sensor! Great content, thanks.
hey Rob, when you talk of the R6 'working' with some EF lenses, are you meaning at full fps, i.e. 12 in mechanical? I hear somewhere there's a list that Canon have released of EF lenses that arent capable of 12fps with the R6. I have the 70-200 mk3, I know that does, and 300 f4 and old 24-105 that I hear doesnt.
Also, have you used the Sigma 120-300 2.8? Im not sure if youve done a Vid on it!
Keep up the good work!
I talk about that in this video man. Also watch my other one about the review after 6 months
@@RobSambles aye, seen that too. and the Sigma 120-300? you used that? happy easter!
@@PhotoSportiv Yeah it was my main sports lens for a while on my 7dii. It features in a lot of my older vids
I've used the 24-70 f2.8 ii and 70-200 f2.8 is ii
Great video and at last somebody says what I figure since I got it. Im an Tamron user and they works just fine. I got this 15-30 G2 35-150 G2 and a 150-600 G2 and I like them.
Doesn't turning off image preview just add viewfinder blackout? It may be a bit easier for some people to track motion as such but I'm still missing motion that I would see with an optical finder.
I have Canon 6D + Canon 17-40 f/4 + Canon 70-200 f/4. Switch to Canon R6 or buy better lens?
Both. But depends what you want. If you are missing focus a lot then better camera. If you want more background blur ect, lens. I love my 85mm 1.8 . I prefer prime lenses. I also have 6D. Thinking of upgrading to r5 and considering getting 24-70 f2.8 or 28-70 f2.0 all so expensive lol so also debating r6. I find myself missing focus often for moving subjects. But love my 6d for product photography
@@ungkey775 The auto/tracking focus system of the R6 is in another league, absolutely phenomenal!! I came from the 5DMKII...
Yeah, the EF 85 1.2 and the Sigma 50 1.4 operate as new lenses on the R bodies. They are better on mirrorless.
When I shoot cinematic wedding video (not 4k as i dont have UHS II CARD) camera heat a lot, and battery last only for approximately only 2hrs..
Ido own and use 85/1.2, 100/2, 28-105/3.5-4.5, 70-200/4....all work smoothly.
I gave you a LIKE just for having a Knicks sweater!
I wanted to hate on the R6 for only having 20Mpixels but the camera has only impressed me with its low light abilities and amazing animal tracking.
However I do miss the 4k 120 of the R5.
Agree on the shutter lag - get the right cards and you are flying. I use a 256 GB SONY card that cost around 90 USD.
I am THIS close *squeezes finger together * to pull the trigger on that camera... I really don't care much about any film-related issues, because I would pretty much exclusively use it for still photography - and even the "small" megapixel-count doesn't bother me, because I would upgrade from my trusty old 550D. It's just a whole lot money for someone who just does photography as a hobby... but daaaang, it's one sexy piece of tech.
I appreciate the super informative video! Please keep it up:)
Thank you
Thanks for this video, Rob. I've been worried about the overheating issue, but am going to buy the R6 now. Can you comment on the quality of 4K in Movie Cropping mode? Reason is I have an 80D with an 18-135mm EF-S lens that has a PZ-E1 Power Zoom adapter. I love that lens! But will the 4K look bad compared with the 4K oversampled from 5.1K using say the RF 24-105mm kit lens, apart from the fact that that RF glass is better?
Great video. What's the difference with using mechanical shutter and electronic shutter? In image quality and lifespan of the camera?
Documentation says that the battery must be > 50% to get 12 fps. As soon as I read it, I thought "not for me" How could one even think about putting such restriction? it is like a sick joke...
Very useful info, thkz.
Regarding lens compatibility does the R6 still limit VIDEO frame rates on EF-S lenses? One major downside I found when purchasing my EOS-R was that with an EFS lens the video is limited to 25fps (50fps is available but not in full HD).
I don't believe so but don't quote me on it as I've not actually tried it
I use the EF 35mm f2IS, EF 24-70mm f2.8L II, Sigma EF 50mm 1.4 Art, and they all work perfectly with the adaptor on my EOS R. However my EF 100mm 2.8L IS Macro gives me errors occasionally, and I need to power down the camera for it to re-set. This is very random and I don't know why it happens. I've tried cleaning the connectors, but still get the occasional error.
My ef lenses works fine with rf adapter…50L 1.2, 85L 1.2 mkii, 35L 1.4 mki, 16-35L 2.8 mkii, 100L is 2.8, 70-200L is 2.8 mki, 35 f2 is…but what do you know about ibis with ef is lenses?
Great vlog mate👍🏻
Cheers Mark
Great video my good sir🔥
Thank you
I currently use the Tamron 24-70 G2 and Tamron 70-200 G2 with the adapter, as well as Canon 50 1.8 (which ive had from my days with the 80D), and they all works perfectly with the adapter. BTW, Im using the R5
I’m ALSO using the same lens TAMRON 24-70 f2.8 with the control ring adápter and in Video, it records with JUMPS in the image.. and it does it ALL TIME!! Its TERRIBLE!! I was about to return iT, until the store guy did some test with Canon Original lenses and worked flawlessly !!
Im really worried because i relly a Lot in that expensive lens, and now.. becomes garbage!! BTW im using the R6
I have this Tamron 90 vc 2.8 macro which doesn't work at all with the adapter on R series cameras. I am missing my macro fun
So far all my EF lenses work. I have a few that I bought in the late 80's like 88 and 89, they work, I just don't use them much any more.
In love with my R6
I have only been using about 2 months but loving my r6. The 100-500 rf is a lot of fun and getting some great shots. For me the controls just seem to be where I want them.
I feel when anything new comes out there are always the snipers. Do they not realise how much R&D goes into creating a new lens/camera. I've had a Canon 5D MkII for 10 years and love it but saving for the R6. Enjoyed your video very much and nice to know all the so called issues aren't really that bad. I've also shot football and it's usually in the first few frames when you time the 'Shot' so 9 fps is fine. The 5D was 5 fps without the E1 booster. Have you used an 85mm F1.8 with the EF adapter, I do some environmental portraiture and I'm interested in the result from that on the R6? Thank you.
Will the RF to EF adaptor do continuous focus for video filming. Is that combination reliable to do a good professional job...? just curious... I know the smooth and fast focusing has to do with Step Motor Lens ...is that true...by any chance do you have a sample video to show. Thanks for all your time and effort in doing this.