This ART THIEF on TIKTOK Needs to STOP
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- Опубліковано 15 гру 2022
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Unfortunately I've been dealing with some art theft issues in the past month. While this is by no means the first time it happened, it definitely was a reminder to be aware of the types of thieves out there and do what you can to protect your work.
ART THIEF Video by @MohammedAgbadi
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The Internet is basically becoming a hostile environment for artists
since 2010
I miss the times when you didn't get yelled at and blamed when something was stolen, and the biggest problem were little kids making their first digital drawings and using your art as a base ☹
Not just artists, but almost everyone in general.
This really makes me not want to use tiktok even more. And here I thought the huge battery drain was already a deterrent.
yeah tiktok is not my favorite right now either..
omg mew i feel you! i recently went viral and i had the most disgusting comments left abt my bf and 10 yr old sister … what is this obsession with age and incest in this generation????
I’d say you should. The app is doodoo and the community is worse.
Threaten to sue. That’ll make them change their tune real quick.
If you having a problem trying to prove your work is yours, metadata is a solution. Every photo has a metadata attached to the photo that has the description of the file, the origin of the file, and etc. You can use the date when the file is made and when the stealer posted the work as evidence. You can also use an official distributor that attaches ISRC or UPC metadata codes(Discokid,Tunecore,etc.) to your work if its a video. Just put a distinct audio sound file made by you into the video(like a jingle or something) add the ISRC code(if personalized) and that should work. Its not guaranteed but its something.
This is superrr helpful to know, thank you so much!
Oh nah
I'll put my watermark embedded in the art work, watch they try and attempt to crop it
@@maymay5600 there are programs made to remove watermarks nowadays. 🤷♀️
Artists will need to go back to watermarking or putting protection on their artwork files so it won’t get stolen. This sucks AI is really ruining the value of art to non artists. They think they can generate good art when it’s a skill that is learned.
Big fat watermark in the middle of the picture, something that can not be removed at all. Will that ruin the art...yes...will we be more protected, yes.
I hope this issue gets taken care of! No one deserves to be removed of their credit and hard work
☹️☹️☹️!!
ahh thank you T_T
Making a comment so this can get boosted on the UA-cam algorithm so more people are aware of this and TikTok can PAY ATTENTION on taking care of their creators better! This is absolutely horrendous. I’m disgusted.
I have a lot of paranoia about sharing my work as much because of this. It's a huge deterrent and it confuses me what I can do to protect my work without coming across as overly paranoid with the donut steel craze like teenage silly days. Watching your videos helps those of us feel we aren't alone and it's an increasingly widespread problem. Until lawsuits ensue which, let's face it most of us artists wouldn't have the means to do that and most of the time it might not even be worth it, these thieves will never stop. It's really a whack a mole thing to keep up. :(
I'm honestly feeling like you can literally do nothing but ruin your entire art with gigantic watermarks, which makes your art unappealing to look at, which makes people less likely to follow. Or paywalls, but we're all broke so yeah. Artists just can't have it easy 😕
Especially considering all of the AI stuff going on right now, I think this would be a good time for artist to be able to have a more legal way to track their work. As stated here it would be a lot to put a contract down for every piece of work. However, if we had a protection program where you could upload pictures, process photos, recordings for your work, and you can be verified as xyz artist and link to your social media. If possible it could also be helpful to have more professional references that can back you up on the matter. These programs can be updated every 6 months to a year to account to any potential major changes in style and subject matter, and could potentially have legal backing.
I'm sure this idea has several flaws, but I think something like this could offer artist more safety as we are just kinda flailing around out here without much protection. We kinda rely on the communities we build and the platforms we post on to have our backs when it comes to this stuff, but a lot of times that's not enough, especially if you don't have a big following.
I had someone grow from tracing my art and then this popular artist stole my persona. When I confronted them about my persona they acused me of harassing them and had there fan base harassing me on my accounts. So I understand how you feel. If I redraw a post I credit where I got it. I only take poses because I'm still learning how to draw different poses.
This is the reason why I don’t show my art to the internet
I am with you in this frustration but so glad tiktok is banned in my country. I probably would die of high BP if people stole my art so often. Thankfully on UA-cam they take copyright claims seriously and its not a difficult process so I have been able to get accounts to take my videos off of them quite easily and faster. Infact youtube lets you know themselves that they found these videos on other channels and you can decide what action you want to take. Gotta say I love youtube and hope this tiktok issue resolves for you and other artists soon too! Sending love and hugs💫
I low key feel like sites like discord might gain momentum if artist become conservative about sharing artwork publicly. Also newsletters. But a lot of times you need to create or build community in sites like Instagram or TikTok. Ahhhhh lol.
Yeah that's definitely a good potential alternative!
I don't want to share any of my art publicly and I feel very iffy about Discord. Best case solution would be to use Discord as a means to funnel people into a Patreon.
I'd be pissed too that's pathetic
I have this deep feeling that this video is going to be an absolute banger
haha thanks xD
I’ve seen pages that post tutorials by other artists on Instagram and give 0 credit. An example is a page who kept posting the work of Mitch Leeuwe and give 0 credit to him.
Considering how much social media encourages rapid fire creation/ consumption. At this point I believe it’s being encouraged at least by the algorithm.
Why else is theft rewarded? So quickly and with money.
It's horrible. Recently many people are stealing my art on TikTok and Facebook. Big channels getting 10-50 times more views as me. And how some other people commented when I wrote that "this artwork was stolen from me" is just as horrible: "ahhh, she (the thief) is just a well-intentioned person who wants to share resources which is so nice...." The whole thing is horrible. And exactly what you said. One post takes me 2 weeks and it's 5 minutes for the thieves so the alogrhythm is on their side.
I'm so sorry this is happening. As if it wasn't already challenging to have to do so much excess work to market and organise your social media accounts as an artist - on top of creating the actual art- and then having to protect it aswell is exhausting. I've been art making since I was really young , I've been following you since deviant art days over a decade ago. I am so happy to continue to see your art, but I'm not as brave as you and never post my artwork because I'm afraid of art theft. I'm going to head over and report the account and hope others do, too. It is well within your right to put those huge watermarks on and I hope you aren't deterred by the negative feedback I very often see to noticeable watermarks.
Some repost accs are just kids that don't know better, but TO BLOCK YOU?? TAKE YOUR WORK OUT OF CONTEXR AND REMOVE THE WATERMARK?? HOOOLY. THATS VICIOUS.
Yes omg! I reported the first tiktok account you mentioned. Everyone kept asking who the original artist was I must have replied 50times to different people tagging you that it’s your art and to go supper you instead. I reported them over 10 times and I’m hoping that account gets taken down
This is disgusting 😤
TikTok is cesspool. Artists need to reevaluate what a helpful social media presence actually looks like, and how it plays into a healthy business model.
You can prove - if it is traditional, you have that original...and if it is digital - every document have a date and in what program it is made. So digital is easy to prove. But will they do anything about it without real lawyer and legal suing someone..not sure.
Oh my god I've had people repost my work on tiktok too, its frustrating. I'm doing about the same with with my watermark, making an obnoxious watermark over the artwork. Good luck and I hope people stop stealing your work😢
I has a giant burrito for this
hope it's a juicy one!
When they go low you go lower for this. Say it’s harm against a minor. It’s a drain for time. People aren’t fans of TikTok people like UA-cam people. Also I tagged your account in every one of your comic videos I seen on there. Hopefully more people can see. I noticed they didn’t remove everyone from the comments telling there audience who really made it. Definitely learning from this I believe!
I’ve seen Instagram accounts that repost art tips from other artists without even crediting the original account.
Ahhh thanks so much for the update on this situation Michelle, as well as crediting some of the other artists that have been stolen from - I remember literally finding out about my work being stolen from your insta story!! Hope Tiktok can improve their system for reporting stolen content soon, what a pain :(
I try to include my signature inside of the artwork now. Like put it in the clothing, the hair, or leg, etc. So that they have to work to find them all. I'm sorry that is happening to you though. A friend of mine constantly has her work stolen because she's a great artist, so they take her work and others, and pretend to be them on Insta. Insta doesn't do much either unfortunately. Hopefully there will be constant amount of people reporting them, and it leads to the accounts being deleted. But yeah it's so difficult to keep your stuff from being taken. You have the typical users posting your works without credit, then people pretending to be you, and then AI taking your work and remaking it.
That's awful!
If I had TikTok or Instagram I'd report their accounts while telling them they suck.
I've been receiving too many of these accounts spam comments & messages… Many of them have +100k followers, it's insane.
Thank you for sharing your story
i'm really sorry you're going through this. i don't use tiktok for a multitude of reasons, but this just makes me not to use it more. and i wish, not only tiktok but other sites as well, would actually do something for theft as clear as this. it's so frustrating !
also, i have to agree with your point about it being hard to tell if artwork or content is original to some of the people you follow. idk how many times i've liked a person's artwork, followed their page, only to find out that they were tracing ;; i don't understand the gratification they must get to steal something and claim it as their own . . .
U are such a vibe love it 💪🏾
I'd probably would've sued them since there profiting off of your art and deleting blocking your comments I can't stand people who think it's ok to steal from hard working artists
@mewTripled Could you have props and t-shirt logos (basically any setting elements) shaped and colored as your watermark? Like if your character is going to restaurant then the signage of the restaurant panel is your watermark and the reflection of that signage in other areas of that panel is your watermark as well. Basically something that makes your watermark even harder to remove but also native to the story? Just an idea.
So sorry this is happening to you. I immediately went to comment on hslduo’s videos. Hope you get some justice cause stealing art is literally stealing income.
I got say that it must be really frustrating to say the least, I just can't imagine why would people do this type of things, just for gready social interaction ? it makes actually no sense. For us artist to see this type of behavior online it's actually kinda of Disgusting to say the least...
Plus the fact that even reporting these account's is this hard and slow, it makes really annoying to deal with this people...
I really hope for the best Michelle(if I may call you by your fist name xD), and this gets resolved! And I've been a fan for quite a while and love your tips and talks about Uni
experience and your own personal stuff it means a lot for us fans!
Because as she has explained in this video comment they are actually making money so they're still in money from us.
More than likely, I think TikTok is using bots to respond to your claims, which is not professional.
What is super annoying, is that with just a little bit of online search and checks, they can can easily figure out who is the real artist and legit account. But why would they spend more than a minute to reply to you (if it’s even actual people replying)?! On another note, I am too old for this shit, called TikTok, but I hate it passionately for bringing these “reels” to Instagram and UA-cam. If I wanted to be spammed with short videos, I would have been on TikTok.
Layers: (because I'm a solo graphic novel artist) I make my lineworks *months* before I finally get around to coloring them. The lineworks rarely go live, so it would be awkward to try to rip them off. And also, metadata, which you can get from your PC, Android or Google drive, for example.
you could start incorporating your name into your artwork, like have a rug or a wall of graffiti with your name.
This is why I won't download TikTok... wow
This has happened to me before when I post my art but I usually ignore the account thankfully 😅
This is what I don't like about AI art. It's super easy to steal with AI
You should do what a lot of artist are starting to do like skypiezz incorporating you @ into the art work in a artistic way
How disgusting, if that happened to my webtoon and someone was stealing my artists artwork who I respect as how I respect my family, I will help my artists out by sueing every cent that disgusting vile individual made from their pockets with lies that they made the art. I respect artists who put their heart into the work and the artists I hired to make a webtoon, put their heart and soul into my work which is why I will continue to work with them due to the amount of respect they gave me for their beautiful work.
spammed the hslduo to be reported a bunch
Can’t you sue them??
yeah, i guess we all fixin to add large watermarks on our work as well!!
Yo I’ve always had this idea and I’ll put it out there copyright your watermark like seriously if you copyright it you can use it on your artwork and have a more legitimate way to strike these people it’s a good way to combat this with out having to copyright all your works since your watermark counts as your branding but that’s just an idea i don't think it’ll combat all theft but it might help a lot
Genuinely considering redownloading tik tok to report these people
there are other kinds of thieves on the internet that resell mesh and other stuff. Online thieves should be taken way more serious, as it is time consuming to make 3d art and 3d mesh products. I hope all these thieves will have a trouble life and afterlife
Dang....
Anyone who disrespects Michelle is an enemy of mine.
I knew about you cause my teacher showed one if your videos
I'm sorry to learn of your unfortunate experience. I can empathize as my works have also been stolen repeatedly and uploaded to TikTok. After I reported the violations, TikTok sent me an email a week later saying that the infringing videos had been removed. But in reality, the videos were still intact on the platform. Calling or emailing TikTok's Chinese branch did not help as they claimed TikTok and Douyin were separate and that they would not handle TikTok matters. I now spend a significant amount of time on copyright protection instead of creating animations. I simply cannot muster any goodwill towards TikTok.
Hearing Michelle cursing is so unusual for her. But atleast it feels honest.
When I saw your post I knew something was off. When I saw your post on your story about it, I was right. I try to report to them too that it wasn't you but their report doesn't have identified other people. It only has a report "me" or "celebrity" which I think is not good because you can't report that it is not a real art person. What is the point of having a celebrity one? No one petered to be a celebrity more than an artist! Tik tok needs to update the report for the artist, not just the celebrity!
If you Posted The Work First ,That's a Huge clue you created the work are the original creator
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art thieves are total mother..... they suck! a lot. and this just shows watermarks dont matter to some of them sadly. this is just another reason not to use tiktok, these accounts posting your art are clearly at fault, but the people at tiktok seems oblivious/blind to the problem 😑
Classic TikTok L.
i could see you very emotional there, but i feel u >:)))
Send this video to Tik tok
Just want to remind people that Tik-tok is a corporation founded in China, and with the way China is right now, I wouldn’t trust it my personal info or let alone have faith in how they run their businesses. As a fellow artist, I deeply understand your pain. I hope this gets fixed for you soon.
You know you have to go to court, complaining to us could help, but it’s time to fight for your work whether you want to or not
You are cute
I truly feel you and am v disappointed that this happened. I went through something v similar in March on Instagram and the worst part was, I actually lost my account with a pretty substantial following. The clone account stayed up longer than mine...! This clone account was also PMing my followers trying to scam money out of them. I like you, made a number of reports plus a copyright claim to Instagram and received some really rude responses (or was just ignored!) about proving ownership (I too sent screen grabs and a detailed report) their final email stated not to reply but to open a new case. Sound familiar? So... I'm gutted for you but def not surprised about the responses you received from TikTok. Sorry for the rant! It seems I'm still rather mad about it so I can empahthise GREATLY!! And yes, it took sooo much time and emotional energy too, I completely get that! I don't have the answers and unfortunately art theft (or just content theft) is rampant on SM with no safety mechanisms in place... These sites don't care...
Stories like these always makes my blood boil. It's truly sad how many people have so little respect for artists yet want to profit off them. As an artist, it's made me become more skeptical and afraid to put myself out there, and makes me lose faith in humanity 🥲 Whenever I see works I like reposted on facebook and such, I always make sure to hunt out the original artists' socials and follow/like the post there instead.
If you're just sharing it to share on Insta to promote your work, at this point I'd always make the panels a vid or moment, watermark, and show yourself and your @ handles on media at the end unless it's just a promoted post to an event/book/link. More of a hassle for you I'm sure, but less clicking for us browsers - I always love to know the artist behind the work anyway. Tech is extremely lazy, especially these media sites, and it would be easy to have a certified check on uploads to owner but they don't care, too busy touting themselves as "industry leaders" and "technological marvels." It used to drive me crazy where I would point out how pathetic our identity/security implementations are, and it would be dismissed, then leak after leak after hack after hack after impersonation after impersonation, and I'm standing there with that look like, f'ing told you hacks, but they don't care, they have to fly their private jet to impregnate some obscure pop artist (heh heh, name that tech fraud). I would def consider analyzing the success with artists involved and brainstorm how you guys could network and repeat the effort for your own benefit.