@@ElicBehexan not too much really. I didn't consider it myself and the doc suggested it when we were talking about me/cfs. Sounds like they often go together
@@jess53nz That's what I have heard. I might have that as well, but fibro was less known about in 2000 when I discovered a book about it and then spoke to my GP. I had probably had fibro for 10 years before that.
I'm listening to the podcast and wanted to see the UA-cam comments to see if anyone fully appreciated something said about newborns and a way to help them with pain.... but it's not even up yet for comments to come in about the topic. It wasn't until the mid 1980s that doctors/researchers finally believed babies even felt pain. Prior they thought infants didn't have fully developed pain receptors enough to actually feel pain. They thought the recoiling from something that would cause anyone else pain was just a muscular reaction. I was a very small child when my face was tore open by a cat and can tell you, nothing was done to ease the pain before they started stitching me back together. My brothers still remember my little screams and kicking the doctors. I don't remember much about it being that I was under 2. But it puts into perspective how recent people learned something so important, how much we've learned since then and how much we will learn going forward about such a strange topic as pain.
@@billyalarie929 I wrote this before the episode came out lol. 13 hours before according to past me. I get notified of their impending release. The question on the front is "Can Bugs Feel Pain?"
Fun fact! LEGO is the plural of LEGO! It comes from the danish phrase leg godt meaning play well! So we do not test cats in a room full of LEGOs but rather a room full of LEGO!! Been working with the brand for some years now and almost everyone uses LEGOs external to the company, so it may seem weird - but it’s true! Heard it from the Christiansen family members mouths themselves. And they invented it! 21:02
Loved Sam's poem, it was very nicely constructed. Pain is a pain in so many ways. Nice examination of a subject that is still a mystery in equally many ways, if not more. Hank's pain sound effects were frightening. Like Ceri, I "ow" out of surprise, sometimes.
Dogs absolutely can use human pacifiers - my friends’ Akita puppy used to take my son’s pacifier from his hand and walk around with it in his mouth. I have photos of it somewhere. He did it so often that we ended up getting several cheap pacifiers to bring with us when we visited, so that we had a fighting chance to keep my son from taking the pacifier out of the dog’s mouth and putting it right back in his own
In the earliest segment, around 7 minutes in: Short-Term Pain is caused by heat, cold, straining/severing of nerves, the purpose thereof being to cause an immediate withdrawal response, reflexively. Longer-Term Pain is simply still sensing any damage that did occur, the purpose thereof being to cause the organism to refrain from allowing the injured body part to come into contact with surfaces, thereby reducing the risk of potentially lethal infections. Think, not touching things after one has sliced open a finger. Later, at 32 in: I learned long ago, as a kid, if I hurt an extremity (burn/cut/stub/mash), if I dug my nails into my skin between the injury and my brain, I could override the pain, at least in part.
That's because your brain is splitting the focus between two areas! I remember that there's a pain gateway theory of something but can't remember the details xX
Thank you, Ceri, for teaching me about the grasshopper mouse! It's both adorable *and* vicious, and also one of the coolest examples of coevolution I've ever seen. The fact that the scorpion venom pain immunity comes from a two-peptide mutation in one receptor just goes to show that very small mutations can result in hugely impactful abilities and properties. And also, I found a video of it howling, and I can't take the cuteness 💗🐭
I was super delighted when the grasshopper mouse came up as Ceri's fact because I very recently got it as my first tattoo! They're so cute when they scream at the moon xD
Describing pain in sound form is spot on! But not to be confused with the vocal sounds we naturally make, which are mainly a form of communication. Using sounds seems like a great wait to explain visual stuff too, like movement, intensity, etc. I do it all the time😄
I have Functional Neurological Disorder and part of that is chronic pain. Unless you suffer from chronic pain you can’t understand how it affects someone. 24 / 7 / 365 there’s no let up, no holiday, just pain
This is such a good video! More study needs to be done regarding pain. We have very little understanding of it, but I think it's fascinating that we evolved along side plants that suppress our pains. Before I continue, I wanna state that I respect opioids and cannabinoids, and I don't mean to downplay addiction, dependency, or other negative side effects. That said, these plants have been a great asset to humanity through the ages.
Sounds as an indicator for the type and level of pain make so much sense! Having ADHD, it made me think of the "I have 17 tabs open across 3 browsers and I have no idea where the music's coming from" trope, and this episode made me link it to my fibromyalgia: it's ADHD but for the nervous system rather than the mind! The pain is always present in different ways and locations, and always distracting... Told 1 of my friends and they suddenly understood the fibro, too!
Ceri: "You like your flesh?" Hank: "As opposed to not having it, yeah." Brennan Lee Mulligan: "WHAT is so CRAZY about WANTING my BONES?!" Also, next time I'm discussing pets with anyone and they ask whether I have a dog or a cat, I'm just going to reply, "No, Ebola."
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine. Your kind cling to your flesh as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither and you will beg my kind to save you. But I am already saved. For the Machine is Immortal.
11:15 the one problem with this noise based system is that my migraines definitely would soung like "AAAAAAAAAAUGHHHHHHHHH!!!", at a volume that would be absolutely unbearable if I made that noise while having a migraine. I would NOT want to explain my pain level to a doctor like this.
It's June 2024 where/when I am! But I'm just catching up with the podcast. You know, an ASMR episode where everyone spends the episode whispering would be a fun idea.
10:15 Yes please! As someone with chronic pain the whole 1-10 thing is pretty useless most of the time lol. Both to compare you to yourself and especially to compare you to other people. For example, My Dad's health is also not great, and a 3 on his scale would send someone else to the hospital screaming. I'm not kidding. Meanwhile he just trudges dutifully to work until he literally can't, which If you can even imagine what that would mean on someone else's scale; it would be off the charts. I often describe my pain with descriptive language, metaphors and similes rather than rely on numbers because I think it gets the message across much better. And even trying to use the 1-10 scale the way physical therapist's do isn't super accurate because it's so subjective. (They keep track of your responses to see how you're feeling before, during, and after pt.) But pain can fluctuate randomly and also your perception of the same pain can change depending on how you're doing mentally or on your experiences of different pain over time. Your pain tolerance can grow so something you once rated as a 6 can become a 3, that doesn't mean it hurts less, it means you have a higher pain tolerance. The mental scale in your brain has expanded and you have a much better imagination for pain, so suddenly the thing your feeling doesn't seem like it's all that bad in comparison, even if your leg feels like it had an icepick in it. And counter to that, sometimes when you're tired and sad, smaller pain can really get to you so you might rate it higher than you would if you were feeling better mentally. (Which I'm sure can be very confusing for outside observers, so I do understand, but still).
I totally agree with you, I don't think even Hanks verbal pain scale would work. Chronic pain skews normally high pain down to a low pain, even for stuff we don't feel every day. But my low hum (that would leave a newbie screaming) doesn't mean I'm not in distress. The fact that I'm feeling it every day should speak volumes, and..., can I please not feel it every day?? Yay, chronic pain warrior club! What are the perks again?
@@ABLovescrafting I don't think it would work super well but I think it might work better than 1-10. At least there would be a bit of feeling behind it (and just the inherent comedic value makes me want to vote for it as well). I get it, I've literally stopped noticing flesh wounds until I actively see them with my eyes because I'm so used to my body being a whiny pos I don't even pay attention anymore lol. Then I'm like, "oh it's an actual thing with blood and missing skin I can put a band aid on?! neat." 🤣 Perks include looking like a stone cold badass when you hurt yourself and don't react because you've developed a pain poker face made of steel. Ex: Falling down the stairs and laughing because this might as well happen, it's not like I have enough to deal with lol.
If you have a headache and/or sore neck from muscular tension, try raising your scapulae (shoulder blades). You can search for instructions on UA-cam. It's kind of an odd motion, like shrugging without moving your shoulders, but I discovered it a month ago and it really helps me-in seconds.
I’d love to see an animated feature spin something off of this episode, like for example, a dastardly villain (whose crimes include resurrecting the word “dastardly”, and..) who invents an escape room comprised of a dungeon-y but tolerable chamber and a squat and long-ish corridor leading to freedom. But the ceiling of the corridor is popcorned with broken glass, the walls are glowing orange and scalding hot, and the floor is covered in LEGOs.. that is.. mostly covered with LEGOs. The first yard or so is essentially a scorpion pit. And THEN the rest is LEGOs. And only one person, our hero, knows the secret. The scorpions have been genetically modified to produce a venom that does that 7-8 molecular thingy y’all were talking about, except in humans. So the trick is to simply dip one toe into the scorpion pit, wince momentarily, and then calmly stroll out the exit. BOOM! I’m a sci-fi writer.. and now I’m not again. Cheers!
I had necrotizing fasciitis caused by strep back in 1994. Right on my face, near my nose … the pain was indescribable and it almost killed me. Do not recommend.
Omg i was wondering about that topic recently! Also I had to wait thru the whole beginning of the video before posting this comment because I didn't know if Hank's got ill and if I should wish him to get better soon hddjdj
Most lifeforms have a punishment pathway to prevent self destruction, especially mobile ones. It is always a shock to me when people try to deny this because uh, duh, not going to last real long without that. Yes there are some alternative scenarios but they are few and far between among mobile creatures. However what triggers the pathways does vary a bit.
For what it is worth, bifrication and crush damage done quickly mean most smashed invertibrits don't suffer much, though personally I still avoid harming whenever possible. The bee study gave me an ethics heart attack until it was clarified that it was sub damage threshold and that they beared it for the sugar.
not really pain for the thing to distract from but that ending part makes me think of how sometimes when i need to use the restroom but can't get to one immediately i'll bite the back of my hand to distract myself from it, and yeah thinking about it other forms of engagement work too mostly driving is the experience i can think of but hadn't really thought of doing other things to distract like that though nice connection to be made maybe i can do less hand biting lol
We do have the power to suppress pain... i had unbearable chronic pain for over 20 years... Then with the help of hypnotherapy to make my brain re-interpret the signals of "useless pain", i just dont feel it anymore. I went from needing 60mg of CBD, plus marijuana, plus 6 ibuprofen, per day, to not needing any.
I didnt even know there was question on it. I thought we knew insects and fish feel pain, we just dont care because its not really relevant considering we are all competing for the same food sources. Maybe they dont feel it exactly like we do or process it exactly, but its clearly experiencing distress. But so does bacteria under deadly conditions. So what? If its a threat to us or our future, its gotta go. Doesnt matter if it hurts or not.
Ceri says ow when she bumps into anything. Drop her in the midwest where everyone says ope! Sorry when they bump into inanimate objects. Regarding the science catch question, check out the very small study MythBusters did on cussing and pain tolerance. Very interesting
26:00 I feel like the ones that are trying to eat me are fair game. Because at that point sentience and or the ability to feel pain aren't really relevant, I'd also kill a human if they were trying to eat me and I know they're sentient and can feel pain lol. But yeah we relocate spiders back outside all the time, they're great.
I have episodic(eternally grateful it's not chrinic) cluster headaches, commonly considered the worst pain a body can cause itself. Sometimes I envy jaws from 007.
Omg me too. 😭 It's funny, I've had three today for the first time in a while, and then this video comes out! I'm glad you commented! I've never actually talked to someone else who experiences them. Literally so painful
@@miles2419 it's just one side of m face. I'm sooooo happy not to be in a cycle lol. I never take it for granted. It's usually the right side, but sometimes when a new cycle starts it'll be the left side. But during the cycle it never changes sides. It's wild like a megaton vice grip is squeezing my temple and trying to remove it from my head lmao
@@miles2419 the most ironic thing about episodic clusters is that they can occur up to 8 times a day and last up to 3 hours each time, so at it's absolute worst, it behaves as if it's chronic 😭
@@nonhumanperson9362 That's really interesting that sometimes it's on your left side. It's only been on the right side for me. Thankfully now the headaches don't happen as often as they did for me a year or two ago, but I dread them.
Aw man, you totally missed the gate control theory of pain as to why one pain cancels out another. This is totally old hat for me and my chronic pain buddies. you should look into it!! Much better science than what was talked about on the show.
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I don't think I'm EVER gonna care how much pain a mosquito can feel, I am going to inflict on it, whatever it inflicts on me.
I like that when Ceri mentions her cat Inky, she shows up in the background eating her food 17:07
Well, I have fibromyalgia and one pain doesn't cancel out my pain, however, distractions often do, so I watch stuff like you.
Jsut been diagnosed with that!
@@jess53nz I sincerely hope you didn't suffer as long as I did before discovering it.
@@ElicBehexan not too much really. I didn't consider it myself and the doc suggested it when we were talking about me/cfs. Sounds like they often go together
@@jess53nz That's what I have heard. I might have that as well, but fibro was less known about in 2000 when I discovered a book about it and then spoke to my GP. I had probably had fibro for 10 years before that.
fibro gang fibro gang
I'm listening to the podcast and wanted to see the UA-cam comments to see if anyone fully appreciated something said about newborns and a way to help them with pain.... but it's not even up yet for comments to come in about the topic.
It wasn't until the mid 1980s that doctors/researchers finally believed babies even felt pain. Prior they thought infants didn't have fully developed pain receptors enough to actually feel pain. They thought the recoiling from something that would cause anyone else pain was just a muscular reaction.
I was a very small child when my face was tore open by a cat and can tell you, nothing was done to ease the pain before they started stitching me back together. My brothers still remember my little screams and kicking the doctors. I don't remember much about it being that I was under 2. But it puts into perspective how recent people learned something so important, how much we've learned since then and how much we will learn going forward about such a strange topic as pain.
This is a petition for Hank to do a bookshelf tour pls
I don't know, can they? How dare you make me wait 13 hours to find out! Lol
Only 12 minutes now! Lol
I’m confused
@@billyalarie929 I wrote this before the episode came out lol. 13 hours before according to past me. I get notified of their impending release. The question on the front is "Can Bugs Feel Pain?"
Fun fact!
LEGO is the plural of LEGO! It comes from the danish phrase leg godt meaning play well! So we do not test cats in a room full of LEGOs but rather a room full of LEGO!!
Been working with the brand for some years now and almost everyone uses LEGOs external to the company, so it may seem weird - but it’s true! Heard it from the Christiansen family members mouths themselves. And they invented it! 21:02
Loved Sam's poem, it was very nicely constructed. Pain is a pain in so many ways. Nice examination of a subject that is still a mystery in equally many ways, if not more. Hank's pain sound effects were frightening. Like Ceri, I "ow" out of surprise, sometimes.
I couldn’t remember how to write a poem! It’s been so long
@@SciShowTangents7:23 oh no an axe murderer 😜 I think she's too happy to experience pain
That was one of Sam’s best poems
👏👏
Dogs absolutely can use human pacifiers - my friends’ Akita puppy used to take my son’s pacifier from his hand and walk around with it in his mouth. I have photos of it somewhere.
He did it so often that we ended up getting several cheap pacifiers to bring with us when we visited, so that we had a fighting chance to keep my son from taking the pacifier out of the dog’s mouth and putting it right back in his own
In the earliest segment, around 7 minutes in: Short-Term Pain is caused by heat, cold, straining/severing of nerves, the purpose thereof being to cause an immediate withdrawal response, reflexively. Longer-Term Pain is simply still sensing any damage that did occur, the purpose thereof being to cause the organism to refrain from allowing the injured body part to come into contact with surfaces, thereby reducing the risk of potentially lethal infections. Think, not touching things after one has sliced open a finger.
Later, at 32 in: I learned long ago, as a kid, if I hurt an extremity (burn/cut/stub/mash), if I dug my nails into my skin between the injury and my brain, I could override the pain, at least in part.
That's because your brain is splitting the focus between two areas! I remember that there's a pain gateway theory of something but can't remember the details xX
Thank you, Ceri, for teaching me about the grasshopper mouse! It's both adorable *and* vicious, and also one of the coolest examples of coevolution I've ever seen. The fact that the scorpion venom pain immunity comes from a two-peptide mutation in one receptor just goes to show that very small mutations can result in hugely impactful abilities and properties.
And also, I found a video of it howling, and I can't take the cuteness 💗🐭
I was super delighted when the grasshopper mouse came up as Ceri's fact because I very recently got it as my first tattoo! They're so cute when they scream at the moon xD
omg could we have an episode about socks? i want to know the origin and fun facts about socks
Describing pain in sound form is spot on! But not to be confused with the vocal sounds we naturally make, which are mainly a form of communication.
Using sounds seems like a great wait to explain visual stuff too, like movement, intensity, etc. I do it all the time😄
I have Functional Neurological Disorder and part of that is chronic pain. Unless you suffer from chronic pain you can’t understand how it affects someone. 24 / 7 / 365 there’s no let up, no holiday, just pain
Best Sam poem yet!
This is such a good video! More study needs to be done regarding pain. We have very little understanding of it, but I think it's fascinating that we evolved along side plants that suppress our pains. Before I continue, I wanna state that I respect opioids and cannabinoids, and I don't mean to downplay addiction, dependency, or other negative side effects. That said, these plants have been a great asset to humanity through the ages.
I always get a chuckle hearing hank pronounce Genus species names.
I never squish spiders.
Sounds as an indicator for the type and level of pain make so much sense!
Having ADHD, it made me think of the "I have 17 tabs open across 3 browsers and I have no idea where the music's coming from" trope, and this episode made me link it to my fibromyalgia: it's ADHD but for the nervous system rather than the mind! The pain is always present in different ways and locations, and always distracting...
Told 1 of my friends and they suddenly understood the fibro, too!
Ceri: "You like your flesh?"
Hank: "As opposed to not having it, yeah."
Brennan Lee Mulligan: "WHAT is so CRAZY about WANTING my BONES?!"
Also, next time I'm discussing pets with anyone and they ask whether I have a dog or a cat, I'm just going to reply, "No, Ebola."
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine.
Your kind cling to your flesh as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass you call a temple will wither and you will beg my kind to save you.
But I am already saved. For the Machine is Immortal.
You got me on the socks Hank, good job.
11:15 the one problem with this noise based system is that my migraines definitely would soung like "AAAAAAAAAAUGHHHHHHHHH!!!", at a volume that would be absolutely unbearable if I made that noise while having a migraine. I would NOT want to explain my pain level to a doctor like this.
It's June 2024 where/when I am! But I'm just catching up with the podcast. You know, an ASMR episode where everyone spends the episode whispering would be a fun idea.
I also do that thing where I say ow, but not because I hurt, but more of a startle reaction. 😂😂😅
Appropriate that I'm listening to this while on day four of an illness that has me actually sounding like Hank's intro. 🤣
The science couch question was in a House episode once.
10:15 Yes please! As someone with chronic pain the whole 1-10 thing is pretty useless most of the time lol. Both to compare you to yourself and especially to compare you to other people. For example, My Dad's health is also not great, and a 3 on his scale would send someone else to the hospital screaming. I'm not kidding. Meanwhile he just trudges dutifully to work until he literally can't, which If you can even imagine what that would mean on someone else's scale; it would be off the charts. I often describe my pain with descriptive language, metaphors and similes rather than rely on numbers because I think it gets the message across much better.
And even trying to use the 1-10 scale the way physical therapist's do isn't super accurate because it's so subjective. (They keep track of your responses to see how you're feeling before, during, and after pt.) But pain can fluctuate randomly and also your perception of the same pain can change depending on how you're doing mentally or on your experiences of different pain over time. Your pain tolerance can grow so something you once rated as a 6 can become a 3, that doesn't mean it hurts less, it means you have a higher pain tolerance. The mental scale in your brain has expanded and you have a much better imagination for pain, so suddenly the thing your feeling doesn't seem like it's all that bad in comparison, even if your leg feels like it had an icepick in it. And counter to that, sometimes when you're tired and sad, smaller pain can really get to you so you might rate it higher than you would if you were feeling better mentally. (Which I'm sure can be very confusing for outside observers, so I do understand, but still).
I totally agree with you, I don't think even Hanks verbal pain scale would work. Chronic pain skews normally high pain down to a low pain, even for stuff we don't feel every day. But my low hum (that would leave a newbie screaming) doesn't mean I'm not in distress. The fact that I'm feeling it every day should speak volumes, and..., can I please not feel it every day??
Yay, chronic pain warrior club! What are the perks again?
@@ABLovescrafting I don't think it would work super well but I think it might work better than 1-10. At least there would be a bit of feeling behind it (and just the inherent comedic value makes me want to vote for it as well).
I get it, I've literally stopped noticing flesh wounds until I actively see them with my eyes because I'm so used to my body being a whiny pos I don't even pay attention anymore lol. Then I'm like, "oh it's an actual thing with blood and missing skin I can put a band aid on?! neat." 🤣
Perks include looking like a stone cold badass when you hurt yourself and don't react because you've developed a pain poker face made of steel. Ex: Falling down the stairs and laughing because this might as well happen, it's not like I have enough to deal with lol.
Sam makes the best poems. Im really pained by the fact he didnt win, but I guess thats just how it goes
If you have a headache and/or sore neck from muscular tension, try raising your scapulae (shoulder blades). You can search for instructions on UA-cam. It's kind of an odd motion, like shrugging without moving your shoulders, but I discovered it a month ago and it really helps me-in seconds.
I’d love to see an animated feature spin something off of this episode, like for example, a dastardly villain (whose crimes include resurrecting the word “dastardly”, and..) who invents an escape room comprised of a dungeon-y but tolerable chamber and a squat and long-ish corridor leading to freedom. But the ceiling of the corridor is popcorned with broken glass, the walls are glowing orange and scalding hot, and the floor is covered in LEGOs.. that is.. mostly covered with LEGOs. The first yard or so is essentially a scorpion pit. And THEN the rest is LEGOs. And only one person, our hero, knows the secret. The scorpions have been genetically modified to produce a venom that does that 7-8 molecular thingy y’all were talking about, except in humans. So the trick is to simply dip one toe into the scorpion pit, wince momentarily, and then calmly stroll out the exit. BOOM! I’m a sci-fi writer.. and now I’m not again. Cheers!
Love this show, love you guys!
I had necrotizing fasciitis caused by strep back in 1994. Right on my face, near my nose … the pain was indescribable and it almost killed me. Do not recommend.
Omg i was wondering about that topic recently! Also I had to wait thru the whole beginning of the video before posting this comment because I didn't know if Hank's got ill and if I should wish him to get better soon hddjdj
fascinating show :)
Most lifeforms have a punishment pathway to prevent self destruction, especially mobile ones. It is always a shock to me when people try to deny this because uh, duh, not going to last real long without that. Yes there are some alternative scenarios but they are few and far between among mobile creatures. However what triggers the pathways does vary a bit.
For what it is worth, bifrication and crush damage done quickly mean most smashed invertibrits don't suffer much, though personally I still avoid harming whenever possible. The bee study gave me an ethics heart attack until it was clarified that it was sub damage threshold and that they beared it for the sugar.
not really pain for the thing to distract from but that ending part makes me think of how sometimes when i need to use the restroom but can't get to one immediately i'll bite the back of my hand to distract myself from it, and yeah thinking about it other forms of engagement work too mostly driving is the experience i can think of but hadn't really thought of doing other things to distract like that though nice connection to be made maybe i can do less hand biting lol
We do have the power to suppress pain... i had unbearable chronic pain for over 20 years...
Then with the help of hypnotherapy to make my brain re-interpret the signals of "useless pain", i just dont feel it anymore.
I went from needing 60mg of CBD, plus marijuana, plus 6 ibuprofen, per day, to not needing any.
I didnt even know there was question on it. I thought we knew insects and fish feel pain, we just dont care because its not really relevant considering we are all competing for the same food sources. Maybe they dont feel it exactly like we do or process it exactly, but its clearly experiencing distress. But so does bacteria under deadly conditions. So what? If its a threat to us or our future, its gotta go. Doesnt matter if it hurts or not.
Check out MayaPolarBear with a pacifier. She’s such a beautiful fluffy pup 😀
Oh no! I just looked at pictures of the sea turtles, that's sad.
Ceri says ow when she bumps into anything. Drop her in the midwest where everyone says ope! Sorry when they bump into inanimate objects.
Regarding the science catch question, check out the very small study MythBusters did on cussing and pain tolerance. Very interesting
Walk around outside barefoot for 20 years and get some good calluses. Then Lego walking should be fine.
You get a Summons if you are the defendant...a subpoena is for witnesses or victims
26:00 I feel like the ones that are trying to eat me are fair game. Because at that point sentience and or the ability to feel pain aren't really relevant, I'd also kill a human if they were trying to eat me and I know they're sentient and can feel pain lol. But yeah we relocate spiders back outside all the time, they're great.
I need more Ceri kissy noises. ;) lol
I have episodic(eternally grateful it's not chrinic) cluster headaches, commonly considered the worst pain a body can cause itself. Sometimes I envy jaws from 007.
Omg me too. 😭 It's funny, I've had three today for the first time in a while, and then this video comes out! I'm glad you commented! I've never actually talked to someone else who experiences them. Literally so painful
Do they affect your whole head and face, or only one side?
@@miles2419 it's just one side of m face. I'm sooooo happy not to be in a cycle lol. I never take it for granted. It's usually the right side, but sometimes when a new cycle starts it'll be the left side. But during the cycle it never changes sides. It's wild like a megaton vice grip is squeezing my temple and trying to remove it from my head lmao
@@miles2419 the most ironic thing about episodic clusters is that they can occur up to 8 times a day and last up to 3 hours each time, so at it's absolute worst, it behaves as if it's chronic 😭
@@nonhumanperson9362 That's really interesting that sometimes it's on your left side. It's only been on the right side for me. Thankfully now the headaches don't happen as often as they did for me a year or two ago, but I dread them.
Aw man, you totally missed the gate control theory of pain as to why one pain cancels out another. This is totally old hat for me and my chronic pain buddies. you should look into it!! Much better science than what was talked about on the show.
Ow is what you say when you don't know if you feel pain yet
SLS has indeed caused a lot of pain 😏
In that intro banter, I think y'all missed a golden opportunity to say pain was BS but sometimes IBS
The real question about pain is:
When does it stop?
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wudup!
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