@VASAviation, it actually depends upon what kind of base it is (don't know it) but there will be an escort, search, confirmation of identity, interview. But most likely they don't have anything at that air base that would grant them not to land and be treated with little hostility.
@@simonpriisholm3935 It's still an emergency into an US-Airport. NTSB ... They search for possible threats with guns for self-defense, but after it is clear they don't have any weapons, the personal is most certainly nicer. Many questions are to be asked ... and of course they will confirm the amount of fuel. Security clearing and a NDA are typical (you hadn't seen anything and you wasn't here -- typical charge for Area 51 trespassers). Most certainly they will accept a written report. Nobody gets shoot for trespassing into the military ground. It's secured for this reason (they don't want anybody in an active bombing range)
@@chester8420 Probably just pushed off by an F-250 with a gas engine driven by some private or junior airman, but yeah, that's pretty much exactly what would happen.
Well were else was he going to go. If there was nothing else in the area. Im sure he never wanted to actually land there. Risk getting grilled by the base commander, having his plane seized, having to provide a full debrief why he planned a flight with not enough fuel.
@@operatorjewski9450 We toured an AFB during ground school (civilian) and were assured if we accidentally landed at said AFB instead of nearby field, we would be greeted with great enthusiasm.
Once you declare an emergency any rules/restrictions go out the window. Thats why he was allowed to land. IE: They werent going to let him land for fuel just because it might be the most convenient place.
@@carsonspizzeriaandbar9693 you can't dump fuel from a 206 unless you remove the gas cap and get inverted, open the underwing drain valve, or siphon it with something... like a McDonalds milkshake straw. It was probably a new-ish pilot that just saw a chart and said "Oh, aN AiREFieD. I CkeN ProBabaLy Git FYooL TheR"
@@berkerbuger7578 I learnt to drive in a Peugeot 106, they always looked nice but they probably had to go to the garage every other week the way learners drive them. Maybe you had one of them! :-)
Fairly sure he did save him. Based on his voice, just contacting a military airfield was already a challenge for him, and declaring emergency on top? He would've never done it if the ATC didn't coach him into saying it and actively avoided saying the word
It looks like a cultural barrier that had to be broken through. Declaring emergency is likely an extreme last resort for this pilot. Doing so to a military base even more so. I'm glad he made it ok.
Alireza Alivandivafa The Pilot never have enough indication of a problem for ATC to declare for him. Military ATC are slightly different than civil ATC in declaring for the plane. ATC realized something wasn’t getting communicated and started asking questions. ATC realized there was a possibly a problem, found out what was happening and got the pilot to say the magic words ATC needed to hear so he could land at a military airbase.
@@N1120A In some countries this is not allowed. It is up to the pilot (PIC) to declare. This is why atc are asking "Do you need assistance?" They cannot do it for him, but are trying to encourage him. This is why they made him say "Emergency fuel". Then they can help. I imagine there is a legal angle.
@@FelixUmbra nope, but that's the word to get everybody's attention and "on emergency fuel" is a good reason to declare mayday AFAIK and i would not write comments if i were in emergency nor would i still comment IF crash happened.... :D
Several comments here about declaring an emergency......I've done it several times during my career. Most pilots are afraid of getting in trouble for declaring but this is very rare. The most I've ever had to do is call a phone number and simply explain what happened. ATC will then send the report to the FAA and if it's not too serious, it'll be read and filed and nothing more. Low fuel is generally not serious enough to warrant any action from the FAA. The last thing the FAA (and ATC) wants is for pilots to be afraid to declare and end up crashing somewhere when they could have landed safely.
This video and your comment reminded me of a less fortunate ending as laid out in this video by Accident Case Study ua-cam.com/video/fLlWf-Fk_YM/v-deo.html TL;DR Pilot ended up in a low fuel situation, could have landed at nearby military airport with about 10 minutes of fuel remainging if he had declared an emergency, instead tried and failed to make it to a civilian airport further away, declared emergency when he was out of fuel, sadly by then it was too late.
It's a little more complicated to emergency land on a military base. For example, getting your plane back out in one piece (rather than disassembled on a truck) might not happen. Still vastly preferable to dying, of course.
Type of Aircraft? HL1004: Cessna 206 Military ATC: Rodger, space shuttle. HL1004: No sir, a cessna 206 Military ATC: Rodger, the U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701 HL1004: God damn it, Cessna 206!! Military ATC: Rodger, a Ford F-150 HL1004: That's not even a damn plane, ffs!!
@@TAGsRC its a cessna 206. coming in high gives the option to circle for a power off landing, descending early for a straight in leaves you zero options if you run out of fuel. i'm not sure if it was intentional, but it was actually the safest option.
Props to the ATC guy for realising the gravity of the situation before the pilot did. It's a shame he then had to badger the pilot into declaring an emergency. If you're low on fuel, don't hesitate to call an emergency. If you're in trouble, any runway is a good runway. If you're worried about how much trouble you'll get into, never forget that it's better to be judged by 12 people than carried by 6.
@@dragonbrownies517 Landing on a road is only done in emergencies when there's no landing strip in range that your plane can land on safely. It's always a challenge since you need enough clearance to each side of the road to not damage anything unnecessarily, a long enough straight to actually land and no obstacle on the road itself, including cars and other vehicles usually found on roads. This translates to finding a road suitable for the aircraft in question and blocking it, preferably before said aircraft arrives at the road, or runs out of fuel... All this becomes redundant the moment we come back to my first point: Landings on road are generally only considered in emergencies. Once you as the pilot declared an emergency, any bureaucracy like a PPR gets thrown out by the ATC and as long as your plane is able to land at an airfield, you will get clearance to land. In the case of military airfields, you might get /advised/ to land at a nearby civilian airfield, but it's your decision whether to honor that advice or not.
The controller did an excellent job saying "say fuel in minutes" some pilots are afraid to say "emergency" so it gave the controller a good idea of what needed to happen.
I feel like 90% of the training and education you receive during your first years as ATC serves only one purpose: To understand what the hell everyone is saying on comms.
It mainly depends on the quality of the radio and the clearance of the antennae. The radio in my trainer is pretty clear compared to this. People don't usually swap them out for better ones because hey, they still work and a new one would be expensive.
@@arthasmenethil9957 AM is just like that. The quality will always be crappier than equivalent bandwidth NFM. With all that line of sight, a better antenna won't do much unless the original antenna was awful.
Notice one was an approach controller the other was a tower controller. Tower can use visual reporting points and give what may seem vague instructions.
I feel like he was trying to avoid declaring an emergency until he had too. I imagine he would be asked some questions about how he managed to have a lack of fuel once he declared emergency.
@@Teh_Random_Canadian Well that's a legitimate question. Unless some sort of mechanical failure was in play there is no excuse for a fuel emergency. A pilot should be monitoring his fuel burn in flight and divert to an alternate before you've only got 5 gallons of fuel left. Most countries require 30-45 minutes of fuel reserve plus fuel needed to reach your destination. This is poor pilot planning that kills people.
No, that was a crap controller. He made multiple mistakes in read back, was often talking unnecessarily quickly and causing confusion, and even though he was not in the US he wasn't using ICAO standard phrasing.
@@iatsd Yep , that controller was being obstructive and not listening to what he was being told. .... 'You can't land here.' ...oh o.k. I'll just crash then , shall I ?? lol... procedure over common sense I think....
Sometimes controllers say things which are beyond comprehension Guy says he has 20 minutes of fuel. Do you require assistance? Hell yes he requires assistance. He wants to land at the military base you just told him that he can’t land at, because he doesn’t have a piece of paper. Do you have an emergency? Again what do you think? 20 minutes of fuel is always an emergency.
@@jacobhawkins7116 It's like the controller didn't really comprehend the situation. As the pilot, I would have been really frustrated. In fact, it would be difficult for me to hold back some choice words I'd like to say to that controller.
He’s not the first pilot to come up short on fuel, it happens. He should have been a little quicker on declaring an Emergency, would have been helpful for him and the first controller.
Brad C it’s a cultural difference, declaring an emergency is the LAST possible thing they do, other aircraft have gone down because of the cultural difference with a similar scenario, but regardless they should have declared it
Thank God the ATC asked about how much fuel remaining b/c it felt like the pilot would never spit it out in 20 min or less. It'd be a heck of a lot more (paper) work & stress for ATC if the guy crashed vs landing low on fuel w/o proper paper work.
@@cannedheat300 I find myself wondering how military ATC would have responded to "Well I can land at Osan or on a road." I suspect they might actually have enough authority to tell him he needs to take the road but it's worse for everybody.
Joking aside, the USAF Thunderbirds do perform at Nellis AFB from time to time. Civilians can, with some restrictions, enter the base and watch the show.
People in the comments don't seem to understand what's going on. The reason all the other flights are being waved off isn't because a single Cessna is in need of fuel. It's because an unannounced aircraft just landed at a US military base and put the whole place on security lockdown in case "low fuel" is Korean for "flying IED".
Good. Control would rather see a man in an embarrasing situation than dead. I doubt he had any consequences. Imagine if he died because he was too discouraged to declare emergency?
@ I completely agree with you on that one. I can also say that it is true because myself personally, have experienced that on many, *many,* occasions in the Military.
My grandfather was flying a solo training flight before he could get his license. The weather changed unexpectedly and was unable to receive or transmit radio contact, he could just make out a airfield and took his chances and landed. Little did he know, he was landing at a military airbase. He landed and was met by about a hundred soldiers, weapons drawn and screaming “WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING!, GET ON THE GROUND!”
Here's the thought, if you're a military airbase, would you rather have a working Cessna 206 land, refuel and leave, or a formerly working Cessna 206 crash and need to be cleaned up
@@vert3432 I’m pretty sure it was humanitarian. All airports have to give complete right of way and give all assistance to emergency aircraft. Doesn’t really matter if military or not
This happened in Delaware and the pilot was hesitant to declare an emergency when he could’ve landed at an Air Force base.Also the controller wasnt to helpful. He didn’t survive
I remember listening to that on this channel. The military ATC was female right? Guy tried over and over to land at different places, ran himself out of fuel and crashed into the trees near the airport after they finally gave him authorization :-( (If I remember correctly )
I was stationed in GTMO in early 80’s. On midwatch one night I got a call from the tower. A Cessna got lost on its way from US to Bahamas. It was in Cuban airspace and low on fuel. The Cubans could have shot it down but didn’t. The plane landed at NAS GTMO Bay, was met by Rapid Response team and security at gun point. The people aboard were Army guys that just got the pilots license and poor planning for first over water night flight got them lost. So yeah it happens....
As an aviation meteorologist, I once called the tower to advise them of thunderstorms with 5 nm, as required. I got a nasty phone call a couple of minutes later. "You never told me that there would be lightning with these thunderstorms." In the Air Force, we didn't have a lot of respect for the ATC guys....
I've had the pleasure of flying into a military installation before. The flight line folks were real pro's. Checked ID's, took a look at our little bird, then walked us over to their operations center where we gladly paid off Uncle Sam to get us back on our way. Any stress was on our side, they acted like it happened more often than they wanted to admit.
"Desiderio Tower, HL1004" "HL1004, Desiderio Tower whats type of aircraft and intention?" "HL1004 Cessna 206 low on fuel" "Roger. Mig-29 inbound for attack"
Great job from the ATC here, he understood through the language barrier that the pilot just couldnt quite affirm that he was declaring a fuel emergency and understood that he needed to dig why a civilian would want to land at a MIL AFB...
A good lesson for anyone wanting to negotiate with atc, took ~3.5m into the video before he got a vector, possibly longer in real time if silence was edited out. With only 20 minutes left in the tank you don't have 5 of them to waste. The initial call should have been declaring an emergency, , request to land at Then atc will follow up with what info they need, and issue a vector. Don't make ATC play guessing games, they want to help
South Korea flying around there there isn’t many air strips out there, Seems like he wandered too far and couldn’t make it home. Also last calling aircraft into the airfields call sign is DUSTOFF FYI.
Props to the pilot’s comprehension of English though. I’ve heard commercial asian pilots with worse comprehension of English landing at Class B airports!
Max W The Japanese and Thai are especially well versed in English. The Chinese and Koreans not so much. Most Japanese do flight training in the USA or Guam.
I find it amazing the towers and pilots are able to understand each other. This isn't just a non-native language thing; it's the same with two native English speakers -- between the speed with which things are said, a sort of slurring of the words, and the inevitable distortion of radios, what comes across is often different from what was intended. Maybe this is overcome by practice, or more likely by knowing the short list of things the other person SHOULD be saying.
Can confirm, generally there’s a little less distortion so understanding what they’re saying isn’t too bad. Catching everything at the speed it is said comes from expecting what they’ll say and practice
The diatortion is not because of data loss. It's because the microphone is trying to pick up your voice while cutting out engine noise. If it did not do that, all you'd hear is 'mmmmmmm'. So, think of the audio you hear as the human's voice + the background noise that occupies the same frequency the human is speaking at.
![[REAL ATC] American B738 forced to land WITHOUT FLAPS AT JFK!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ATVYGjkgq2A/mqdefault.jpg)
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*I'm really curious to know what happened after he parked and got off the aircraft =O*
@VASAviation, it actually depends upon what kind of base it is (don't know it) but there will be an escort, search, confirmation of identity, interview. But most likely they don't have anything at that air base that would grant them not to land and be treated with little hostility.
Lol I imagine he was greeted with several big guys with rifles
@@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043 serveral small guys with rifles. they don't have big guys in korea
@@Rotsteinblock You may realize that the ATC and Tower are in American accent... Osan and Pyeongtaek are US bases.
@@simonpriisholm3935
It's still an emergency into an US-Airport. NTSB ...
They search for possible threats with guns for self-defense, but after it is clear they don't have any weapons, the personal is most certainly nicer. Many questions are to be asked ... and of course they will confirm the amount of fuel.
Security clearing and a NDA are typical (you hadn't seen anything and you wasn't here -- typical charge for Area 51 trespassers). Most certainly they will accept a written report.
Nobody gets shoot for trespassing into the military ground. It's secured for this reason (they don't want anybody in an active bombing range)
Two options how to take a military airfield out of service:
1. A sustained bomber attack with anti-runway penetration bombs.
2. A cessna.
If a military emergency cropped up, they'd open the runway, regardless of the departing aircraft flying over the Cessna.
That 206 would be cleared off with a bulldozer in a second if they needed the runway for something.
Classic!
@@chester8420 Probably just pushed off by an F-250 with a gas engine driven by some private or junior airman, but yeah, that's pretty much exactly what would happen.
Allen Klingsporn You can literally pull the 206 by hand. It takes 2 people, but it’s how you handle them.
"Can I land"
"No"
"What if I have no fuel? How about now?"
"Okay, sure"
Well were else was he going to go. If there was nothing else in the area. Im sure he never wanted to actually land there. Risk getting grilled by the base commander, having his plane seized, having to provide a full debrief why he planned a flight with not enough fuel.
It makes sense tho. not to allow an unscheduled aircraft to land with the exception of an emergency.
This guy was lucky this dud didn't thought of him as a terrorist.
@@operatorjewski9450 We toured an AFB during ground school (civilian) and were assured if we accidentally landed at said AFB instead of nearby field, we would be greeted with great enthusiasm.
Once you declare an emergency any rules/restrictions go out the window. Thats why he was allowed to land. IE: They werent going to let him land for fuel just because it might be the most convenient place.
"Check gear down."
"It had better be down. It does not retract according to the flight manual."
Millitary controllers HAVE to say it regardless.
XD
I just fucking died! That was great
"check gear still attached"
it's compulsory language at any U.S. military field. they'll say that to a fucking Blackhawk every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
- Your type of aircraft?
- Cessna 206
- Copy that, Ferrari LaFerrari with the optional ceramic disc package
-Copy that, Honda Civic of the sky
Copy that, Toyota Prius Exclusive edition with leather seats and brown headrests
I'm assuming carbon ceramics are stock on a laferrari. They better be
Copy, Tesla Cybertruck
Copy that, 49cc tao tao moped with optional electric start.
I'd be scared too. 5 stars wanted level is no joke.
You can activate cheats! :D
4,still a major pain in the ass with those fucking tanks
It’s only 4 stars.
AEZAKMI cheat code activated.
4*
"Can I land for fuel?"
"No. Unless it's an emergency."
*Dumps fuel*
"Declaring emergency low fuel, HL1004."
Probably what happened
@@carsonspizzeriaandbar9693 you can't dump fuel from a 206 unless you remove the gas cap and get inverted, open the underwing drain valve, or siphon it with something... like a McDonalds milkshake straw.
It was probably a new-ish pilot that just saw a chart and said "Oh, aN AiREFieD. I CkeN ProBabaLy Git FYooL TheR"
@@electrontube it was just a joke 😂
@@electrontube I’m not good with planes 😂
🤣🤣🤣
"Your type of aircraft? "
"Cessna 206"
"copy, hot air balloon"
We have a hot air balloon buzzing the tower at 300 Knots
Michael Graham
“There is currently a hot air balloon doing 300 knots on runway 2, now doing an inverted vertical!”
@@austinhawkins5426 are you talking about airforceproud95
@@crownvic-gc1ix I'm pretty sure his name is airfartpride69
"Hot Air Balloon, do a vertical"
Say your type of aircraft
- cessna 206
- copy, B-29 stratofortress
Dab King94 quiet woman
@@dabking9454 yeah realised the mistake after I posted
Dab King94 sure bud
Hey both of you I want a nice clean comment section
Copy Hawker Hurracunn
"Your type of aircraft?"
"Cessna 206"
"Copy, IKEA SJÖGÅNG wall lamp"
This is way too underrated
@@7thBatallion agree, it cracked me up
god, i just lost my shit at this
Lmfao
I heard that in my head as an angry swedish viking
- “HL1004 please confirm your aircraft type.”
- “Cessna 206”
- “Peugeot 206, roger!”
Can someone explain the joke? I'm new here...
I still pilot my Peugeot 206, its gear is down except for this summer it had a cracked spring.
Haahahahahaha 😅
@@Milamberinx I had a peugeot 106 with a cracked engine block that was welded so I sold it back. :/
@@berkerbuger7578 I learnt to drive in a Peugeot 106, they always looked nice but they probably had to go to the garage every other week the way learners drive them. Maybe you had one of them! :-)
ATC: "Say the magic word, say it! Then I can allow you to land at the base. Come on, I know you know the magic word, but I can't say it for you.".
"Please" ^_^
Actually, an emergency can be declared by the pilot, controller, or aircraft operator.
"You got say it Aladdin, make the wish" 😂
it must be a lovely day, in this, the month before june
“HIJACK”
-Type of aircraft?
- Cessna 206
- Roger, minecart with chest
ace vanta no
ace vanta I’m glad we reached an understanding
Hopper cart out
kevcom000 Roger that, TNT Minecart is entering the AO.
you made my day
@@Miftahul_786 Oh crap, that thing can destroy a fucking city
"HL1004, check wheels down"
"Wheels down and welded, sir"
Lol
Aircraft type? "Cenna toosicty"
Cessna citation 500 roger, check gear down sir cleartolanrunway34.
Talon 69 negative, hostile aircraft inbound for 34 fregchain approved
mil atc coming out there. the civ was probably shitting himself at this point and just rolled with it.
ATC dealt with tons of highly advanced million dollar acft with retractable gear and forgot what a cessna looks like
Normal for military Atc, even when civil Atc will say that to a military aircraft when clearing them to land
- Your type of aircraft?
- Cessna 206
- Copy. Boeing 757
Reminds me of AFP95.
Where does it happen.. I keep on missing it
We have a hot air balloon doing 100 knots on the taxi way.
@@2012daffyduck 3:45
E Robinson lmfao
"If you do not have a PPR number you cannot land at Osan air base"
"Ok I can crash there tho right?"
ATC: Say your aircraft type?
Cesna 206: Cesna 206
ATC: Roger, ISS inbound
Atc: Air speed?
ISS: mach 30
@@CarlosSanchez-en6mr lol😂
Carlos Sanchez blink and you’d miss the runway
@@awesomebush8711 that's a common speed of shrapnel from a bomb
ATC: state your type of aircraft
Cessna: Cessna 206
ATC: roger, USS Nimitz inbound
Apart from mishearing the pilot one or two times, the ATC did a brilliant job and may have saved that pilot and his Harrier jump jet.
Fairly sure he did save him.
Based on his voice, just contacting a military airfield was already a challenge for him, and declaring emergency on top? He would've never done it if the ATC didn't coach him into saying it and actively avoided saying the word
"Yeah, there are two Seouls on board"
Underrated comment right here
Lmao
That's a lot of people on a Cesna
laughed out loud at this one..
So twenty million souls?
It looks like a cultural barrier that had to be broken through. Declaring emergency is likely an extreme last resort for this pilot. Doing so to a military base even more so. I'm glad he made it ok.
ATC should have declared it for him.
Alireza Alivandivafa The Pilot never have enough indication of a problem for ATC to declare for him. Military ATC are slightly different than civil ATC in declaring for the plane. ATC realized something wasn’t getting communicated and started asking questions. ATC realized there was a possibly a problem, found out what was happening and got the pilot to say the magic words ATC needed to hear so he could land at a military airbase.
@@N1120A They basically did. When finding out he had only 20 mins fuel remaining, they knew no other airports were within range.
@@N1120A In some countries this is not allowed. It is up to the pilot (PIC) to declare.
This is why atc are asking "Do you need assistance?" They cannot do it for him, but are trying to encourage him.
This is why they made him say "Emergency fuel". Then they can help.
I imagine there is a legal angle.
This was a US controller. They operate under US rules and can declare an emergency for a pilot.
2 words, 13 letters, say them, and you’re mine.
*EMERGENCY FUEL*
how about "mayday" ?
@@rivenoak You are actively crashing or have crashed?
@@FelixUmbra nope, but that's the word to get everybody's attention and "on emergency fuel" is a good reason to declare mayday AFAIK
and i would not write comments if i were in emergency nor would i still comment IF crash happened.... :D
Just me who counted the letters?
@@rivenoak "pan-pan" in this situation
"Type of aircraft?"
"Cessna 206"
"Copy, paper airplane"
"Welcome to Steam Edition."
"Hot Air Balloon just buzzed the tower at 400 knots."
@@HailNeatoBurrito aandd, hot air balloon going mach 3 and inverted.
Nevermind he just went shuttle status
Several comments here about declaring an emergency......I've done it several times during my career.
Most pilots are afraid of getting in trouble for declaring but this is very rare. The most I've ever had to do is call a phone number and simply explain what happened. ATC will then send the report to the FAA and if it's not too serious, it'll be read and filed and nothing more. Low fuel is generally not serious enough to warrant any action from the FAA.
The last thing the FAA (and ATC) wants is for pilots to be afraid to declare and end up crashing somewhere when they could have landed safely.
Unfortunately FAA doesn’t oversee South Korea operations where this video took place so who knows what happens overseas after emergency declarations.
This video and your comment reminded me of a less fortunate ending as laid out in this video by Accident Case Study ua-cam.com/video/fLlWf-Fk_YM/v-deo.html
TL;DR Pilot ended up in a low fuel situation, could have landed at nearby military airport with about 10 minutes of fuel remainging if he had declared an emergency, instead tried and failed to make it to a civilian airport further away, declared emergency when he was out of fuel, sadly by then it was too late.
@@BeechSundowner Do you know who does own the airspace? It is reserved for USAF ops afterall . . .
@@BeechSundowner us airbase, us rules. And mist country do follow faa regulations, except the EU and china
It's a little more complicated to emergency land on a military base. For example, getting your plane back out in one piece (rather than disassembled on a truck) might not happen. Still vastly preferable to dying, of course.
Your type of aircraft?
-Cessna 206
-Copy, Messerschmitt BF 109 E
lel, copy P-47 Thunderbolt.
Type of Aircraft?
HL1004: Cessna 206
Military ATC: Rodger, space shuttle.
HL1004: No sir, a cessna 206
Military ATC: Rodger, the U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701
HL1004: God damn it, Cessna 206!!
Military ATC: Rodger, a Ford F-150
HL1004: That's not even a damn plane, ffs!!
*air raid siren heard in the background*
HL1004: What was tha-
@@DarKKlusteR which Enterprise though?
-Copy, B-17G
"You are too high for final approach."
"Ok I'm on final now."
*facepalm*
*puts down bong* "I am?"
Right? And then "Can we make a circle, I can't land at 32."
@Thevictoryoverhimself also not a bad idea to delay descent in a fuel emergency.
Yeah as if requesting to emergency land at an AF base due to fuel shortage isn’t embarrassing enough… now you screw up the approach and burn more fuel
@@TAGsRC its a cessna 206. coming in high gives the option to circle for a power off landing, descending early for a straight in leaves you zero options if you run out of fuel. i'm not sure if it was intentional, but it was actually the safest option.
Tower: “say your type of aircraft”
HL004: Cessna 206
Tower: Roger, Saturn V rocket
"Type of aircraft sir?"
"Cessna 206."
"Copy, Big F***ing Rocket."
@@GabbieTheFox *BFR Intensifies*
"your type of aircraft?"
"Cessna 206"
"Copy, mk2 oppressor"
pretty sure they only have that at area 51
😂😂
@@diogoj95 i want one... Lets storm Area 51 i think this idea is new
lol
@@diogoj95 nah f19 is the one there
Props to the ATC guy for realising the gravity of the situation before the pilot did. It's a shame he then had to badger the pilot into declaring an emergency. If you're low on fuel, don't hesitate to call an emergency. If you're in trouble, any runway is a good runway. If you're worried about how much trouble you'll get into, never forget that it's better to be judged by 12 people than carried by 6.
if you want to quickly land at your nearest air base just squawk 7500 .. it also comes with a free air show
sparrowJLT Bwahaha thats soo wrong!
LMAO
And probably a free trip to prison
Why prison? You could always say that u meant squawk 7700 but put in the wrong number BC of haste, lol
and you will also have some big guys with guns waiting for you on the ground
Type of aircraft?
-cessna 206
-copy, uss enterprise
😂
@@Bashfulvideos1 The CVN-80's aircraft. The NCC-1701 E's shuttles have to land at a spaceport or a helipad.
i believe 6 moths ago there's uss discovery
Grant Cambron LMAOOOO😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Galaxy class starships are not equipped with landing gear. You must be confusing it with an intrepid class starship.
You could start hearing the panic in his voice when he was getting denied.
Ikr.
I'd be pretty upset too if I was denied life.
@@ttimetotroll so he lands on a road. Meh.
@@dragonbrownies517 *phone lines have entered the chat*
@@dragonbrownies517 Landing on a road is only done in emergencies when there's no landing strip in range that your plane can land on safely.
It's always a challenge since you need enough clearance to each side of the road to not damage anything unnecessarily, a long enough straight to actually land and no obstacle on the road itself, including cars and other vehicles usually found on roads. This translates to finding a road suitable for the aircraft in question and blocking it, preferably before said aircraft arrives at the road, or runs out of fuel...
All this becomes redundant the moment we come back to my first point: Landings on road are generally only considered in emergencies. Once you as the pilot declared an emergency, any bureaucracy like a PPR gets thrown out by the ATC and as long as your plane is able to land at an airfield, you will get clearance to land.
In the case of military airfields, you might get /advised/ to land at a nearby civilian airfield, but it's your decision whether to honor that advice or not.
His English is atrocious. The ATCO had the patience of a saint.
You can just hear the strain in the ATC's voice as they try to coax the magic word "emergency" out of the pilot.
"-Type of aircraft?"
"-Cessna 206"
"-Copy that Falcon 9"
Would be kinda cool to land your falcon 9 at the runway lol
Paveil Mikhail “ copy That 1970 Chevy Impala
Or is it a Falcon 9 Heavy? XD
sometimes in the future, it would suprise me if they get a Falcon emergency landing at an airport....
*drops 3 boosters on the airfield*
The controller did an excellent job saying "say fuel in minutes" some pilots are afraid to say "emergency" so it gave the controller a good idea of what needed to happen.
"State number of souls on board."
"Negative, if I had enough fuel for Seoul, I wouldn't be calling you."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"Type of aircraft?"
"Cessna 206"
"Copy, ohio class submarine"
“There’s more planes in the sea than submarines in the sky”
@@robloxtipshelper Hold on, this may very well be true...
@@robloxtipshelper "Terrain terrain, pull up!"...
ATC: say the word, say the word, I can't do anything until you say THE word
“Please…?”
@@robloxtipshelper oh god lmao
@@serosero 😂
_Your type of aircraft?
_Cesna 206
_Copy. bird.
@ It's attached to the landing gear.
A bird running out of fuels.. an angry bird.
Please turn off your stealth technologies we can only see you as a bird on radar.
- Confirm type of aircraft
- Cessna 206
- Copy that, Enemy AC130 Above
Negative you need 11 Kills to unlock that
"Type of aircraft sir?"
"Cessna 206."
"Copy, Tactical Nuke standing by."
These “your type of aircraft?” comments are gold
I legit dont get the, they are funny sure, but what's the context?
@@KingPOF when the pilot stated his aircraft type as Cessna 206 the air traffic controller read it back as Cessna 203 instead.
they're more like pyrite if we're being honest here
I feel like 90% of the training and education you receive during your first years as ATC serves only one purpose: To understand what the hell everyone is saying on comms.
It mainly depends on the quality of the radio and the clearance of the antennae. The radio in my trainer is pretty clear compared to this. People don't usually swap them out for better ones because hey, they still work and a new one would be expensive.
@@arthasmenethil9957 AM is just like that. The quality will always be crappier than equivalent bandwidth NFM. With all that line of sight, a better antenna won't do much unless the original antenna was awful.
@@arthasmenethil9957 "if its not broken, it doesnt need to be fixed"
I understand what the words and structure means but cannot understand what they are saying most of the time.
These people never heard of enunciation
"Say your type of aircraft"
"Cessna 206"
"Copy, Tesla Cybertruck"
ATC: "Type of aircraft sir?"
Pilot: "Cessna 206."
ATC: "Copy, Tesla Roadster 2.0 with optional SpaceX Performance package."
@@GabbieTheFox DON'T PANIC
Why is there so many comments like this?
can somone explain these types of joke for me, I found them funny, but what's the context??
@@KingPOF no clue mate.
FAA: "How did you end up with lack of fuel sir?"
Pilot: "Vtec kicked in yo"
What the hell would FAA be doing in South Korea?.
@@Jrelli Maybe it was a HondaJet? (I know the 206 is neither a Honda nor a jet.)
Good ATC to despite a language barrier, he extracted the obvious fuel emergency outta him. You’ll get good karma
Props to the pilot, spoke pretty good English.
holy shit the atcs spoke american like what the fuck
No shit because Osan AB / Pyeongtaek Humphreys are US military bases in Korea.
@@AreDoWeSheIt US Military Air Force Base. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osan_Air_Base
Not all of the Korean pilots here speak English that well and it's frustrating as hell
Civilian planes: Right heading 300 left heading 250 right heading 80
Military planes: "Stay in the valley"
"Make right circles"
Notice one was an approach controller the other was a tower controller. Tower can use visual reporting points and give what may seem vague instructions.
"Your type of aircraft?"
"Cessna 206"
"Roger Wright Flyer"
How that atc got information out of the pilot despite hesitant pilot and language/cultural barrier was really impressive
Arent pilots required to speak English tho
@@dctmatt they're required to speak English. They're not required to speak it WELL.
Well, anyone would be nervous requesting permission to land at a military air base
Jon Tamura true lmao
Aviation communication is a worldwide frozen language pilots had to learn well.
ATC: HL1004, say aircraft type?
HL1004, Cessna 206
*Copy, B-1 Lancer*
Instead of saying "Declaring an emergency due to low fuel" he makes it sound like a normal fuel stop when he says "I want to land for fuel"
You can hear the language barrier here so can't really blame the guy.
He got the point across in English much better than I could in Korean...
@@VisibilityFoggy Korean is not the language of aviation. A pilot is expected to be proficient in English, however.
I feel like he was trying to avoid declaring an emergency until he had too. I imagine he would be asked some questions about how he managed to have a lack of fuel once he declared emergency.
@@Teh_Random_Canadian Well that's a legitimate question. Unless some sort of mechanical failure was in play there is no excuse for a fuel emergency. A pilot should be monitoring his fuel burn in flight and divert to an alternate before you've only got 5 gallons of fuel left. Most countries require 30-45 minutes of fuel reserve plus fuel needed to reach your destination. This is poor pilot planning that kills people.
"Confirm aircraft"
"Cessna 206"
"Copy, A-10 Thunderbolt loaded for bear"
That’s the regular aircraft stationed at Osan AB. So that wouldn’t be anything different.
“Your type of aircraft?”
“Cessna 206.”
“Copy, Fletcher Class Destroyer.”
This one got me.
Good on ATC for hearing the stress and coaching the pilot into declaring an emergency.
ATC here was incredible. Aside from getting the plane type and souls wrong
That was the most impressive part to me. ATC was brilliant.
-whats your aircraft type?
-cessna 206
-copy, executor-class super star destroyer
-I've had a visual since you entered orbit.
All batteries, target that base and fire!
-Firing Nuclear Howitzer at the bridge.
Hey Google, translate "frequency change approved" from English to Soldierish.
...."Frcngprvd"
Was thinking the same thing. Couldn't understand it at all lol
Talon 69 cancelaproach runwayclosedduetoemergency stateurintentionssir
Visda58 Honestly would not be able to understand half of the things said if it wasnt for the captions
Frequently change your shoes.
"Your type of aircraft?"
"Cessna 206"
_some time later_
"Runway 32, *check wheels down"*
Different atc but yeah it’s ironic lol. If they weren’t down that would be a real problem.
Great controller. Recognized the pilot’s bad situation and was very accommodating
No, that was a crap controller. He made multiple mistakes in read back, was often talking unnecessarily quickly and causing confusion, and even though he was not in the US he wasn't using ICAO standard phrasing.
@@iatsd I agree. And actually that pilot was not too hard to understand.
@@iatsd Yep , that controller was being obstructive and not listening to what he was being told. .... 'You can't land here.' ...oh o.k. I'll just crash then , shall I ?? lol... procedure over common sense I think....
Sometimes controllers say things which are beyond comprehension
Guy says he has 20 minutes of fuel.
Do you require assistance?
Hell yes he requires assistance. He wants to land at the military base you just told him that he can’t land at, because he doesn’t have a piece of paper.
Do you have an emergency?
Again what do you think? 20 minutes of fuel is always an emergency.
@@jacobhawkins7116 It's like the controller didn't really comprehend the situation. As the pilot, I would have been really frustrated. In fact, it would be difficult for me to hold back some choice words I'd like to say to that controller.
He’s not the first pilot to come up short on fuel, it happens. He should have been a little quicker on declaring an Emergency, would have been helpful for him and the first controller.
Brad C it’s a cultural difference, declaring an emergency is the LAST possible thing they do, other aircraft have gone down because of the cultural difference with a similar scenario, but regardless they should have declared it
Thank God the ATC asked about how much fuel remaining b/c it felt like the pilot would never spit it out in 20 min or less. It'd be a heck of a lot more (paper) work & stress for ATC if the guy crashed vs landing low on fuel w/o proper paper work.
@@cannedheat300 I find myself wondering how military ATC would have responded to "Well I can land at Osan or on a road." I suspect they might actually have enough authority to tell him he needs to take the road but it's worse for everybody.
@@joshuahudson2170 no if he calls an emergency he has to let him land it's like a ship calling mayday he have to help
Joshua Hudson and it will most likely lead to an investigation. As an atc you cant say i dont want him to land because i dont feel like it.
"Your type of aircraft?"
"Cessna 206"
"Bottom text"
LMFAO
Underrated comment LMAO
Want to visit an airbase legally? Just plan not enough fuel and declare an emergency lol
if you do that Aviation authority will really cause you trouble like suspending your license etc...
Rafael Oliveira they cant if they don’t know it was on purpose!
/s
Joking aside, the USAF Thunderbirds do perform at Nellis AFB from time to time. Civilians can, with some restrictions, enter the base and watch the show.
Might be better to poke a hole in one of your gas tanks... That way it really is an emergency not just idiot planning!
caraboose brilliant idea. Be sure you are smoking when you do it.
People in the comments don't seem to understand what's going on. The reason all the other flights are being waved off isn't because a single Cessna is in need of fuel. It's because an unannounced aircraft just landed at a US military base and put the whole place on security lockdown in case "low fuel" is Korean for "flying IED".
Actually emergency aircraft get priority so they get right of way
Noah Horn bit a both actually
Noah Horn yeah but they don’t know if the pilot has some bombs on board and is trying to 9/11 a military base
And that’s why he was put on the hammerhead, away from anything important.
Only one track un that base so It was fully occupied
"Your aircraft type?"
"Cessna 206"
"breadstick 206, roger"
😂
- Your type of aircraft?
- Cessna 206
- Copy that, Los Angeles-class nuclear submarine
Nobody really forced the man to land there he screwed himself into landing there.
I like the “I just need fuel” response!
He said, "I jussa nee fyoo"
Good. Control would rather see a man in an embarrasing situation than dead. I doubt he had any consequences. Imagine if he died because he was too discouraged to declare emergency?
He shouldn't have needed to declare an emergency in the first place.
@@user2C47 most plane crashed shouldn't happen, but it still does. Because we are humans
@ I completely agree with you on that one. I can also say that it is true because myself personally, have experienced that on many, *many,* occasions in the Military.
"Your aircraft type?"
"Cessna 206"
"Copy, Dodge Challenger with corner protectors still attached"
-Say your type of aircraft.
-Cessna 206
-*Roger 2019 Ford F-150*
2005 Chevy silverado inbound
2019 Ram 1500, copy
-State Aircraft Type
-Tesla Model A
Roger *Tiny plane without a drop of fuel onboard*
"Hey, can I land on your airfield"?"
"Lol no"
"Pretty please? Im outta fuel."
"Lol no"
"Seriously, I have 20 minutes left"
"Ugh _fine"_
"Type of aircraft?"
"Cessna 206"
"Copy, Malaysia Airlines 370"
Oh god 😂
3:44 I started laughing at this comment when ATC said the wrong aircraft 😂😂😂
Oh that's dark, 🤣🤣🤣
"Type of aircraft?"
"Cessna 206"
"Copy, strawberry ice cream"
"I'm on emergency chocolate."
@Patrick Schmalstig "I've got about 20 minutes of chocolate remaining... HELP!!!" XD
My grandfather was flying a solo training flight before he could get his license. The weather changed unexpectedly and was unable to receive or transmit radio contact, he could just make out a airfield and took his chances and landed. Little did he know, he was landing at a military airbase. He landed and was met by about a hundred soldiers, weapons drawn and screaming “WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING!, GET ON THE GROUND!”
Damn... i hope he could explain the situation and got to leave just fine? That no shootings happened?
-Specify aircraft when able.
-Cessna 206
-Copy. 1880 Steam Locomotive.
T to to
-say your type of aircraft?
-cessna 206
-*roger microwave*
Emergency Protocols are awesome.
I love that humanized factor of Emergency takes priority over regulations.
Life over law.
Here's the thought, if you're a military airbase, would you rather have a working Cessna 206 land, refuel and leave, or a formerly working Cessna 206 crash and need to be cleaned up
@@vert3432 i like my reasoning better.
Sounds more humanitarian.
@@robert9595 Lol true, but mine is more practical (and imo more likely) probably a mix of both tbh
@@vert3432 I’m pretty sure it was humanitarian. All airports have to give complete right of way and give all assistance to emergency aircraft. Doesn’t really matter if military or not
Life is law
- Your type of aircraft?
- Cessna 206
- Copy Tomahawk CM, wait for CIWS to lock on you for landing assistance. Roger!
-Your type of aircraft?
-Nuclear Armed MIRV
-Our laser-besed point defenses lock on as we speak
-Opens fire.
-Airburst
until it locks onto a cloud instead.
@@DreadnoughtHvor How could a fire control radar lock on to something as large as a cloud? At least this radar has IFF capability.
@@user2C47 I'm talking about the original comment. CIWS doesn't have IFF and most certainly does lock onto clouds.
Just declare emergency man , no time to be embarrassed.
This level of realism in a flight sim server
This happened in Delaware and the pilot was hesitant to declare an emergency when he could’ve landed at an Air Force base.Also the controller wasnt to helpful. He didn’t survive
oh. I couldn't remember the state. I'm glad to see how it could've been.
It was near Dover. He asked if it was possible to land at Dover and was told "no"
But that was before they knew he was in a fuel emergency
I remember listening to that on this channel. The military ATC was female right? Guy tried over and over to land at different places, ran himself out of fuel and crashed into the trees near the airport after they finally gave him authorization :-(
(If I remember correctly )
Here is the link to Dover fuel starvation analysis - ua-cam.com/video/fLlWf-Fk_YM/v-deo.html
They were both at fault in that one. He never declared and she just followed the book.
- Your type of aircraft?
- Cessna 206
- Copy, Swordfish Torpedo Bomber
I was stationed in GTMO in early 80’s. On midwatch one night I got a call from the tower. A Cessna got lost on its way from US to Bahamas. It was in Cuban airspace and low on fuel. The Cubans could have shot it down but didn’t. The plane landed at NAS GTMO Bay, was met by Rapid Response team and security at gun point. The people aboard were Army guys that just got the pilots license and poor planning for first over water night flight got them lost. So yeah it happens....
99% of comments:
Say your type of aircraft
- cessna 206
- copy, B-29 stratofortress
1% of the comments: Other
It's too great tho
Hey you made it into the 1% other...good job!
Sorry to be that guy.... but the B-52 is the stratofortress. B-29 is just the superfortress
This comment is both :o
some of them are pretty funny tbh
As an aviation meteorologist, I once called the tower to advise them of thunderstorms with 5 nm, as required. I got a nasty phone call a couple of minutes later. "You never told me that there would be lightning with these thunderstorms." In the Air Force, we didn't have a lot of respect for the ATC guys....
“Your type of aircraft?”
“Cena 206”
“Copy A-10 Warthog”
ThaTricksta Gone BRRRRRRRRRRRRRT
Lmao Warthogs “low, slow, kill everything below”
- Say your type of aircraft
- Cessna 206
- Copy, Concorde
"Type of aircraft sir?"
"Cessna 206."
"Copy, SR-71 Blackbird."
I've had the pleasure of flying into a military installation before. The flight line folks were real pro's. Checked ID's, took a look at our little bird, then walked us over to their operations center where we gladly paid off Uncle Sam to get us back on our way. Any stress was on our side, they acted like it happened more often than they wanted to admit.
oh the ground crew loves it when stuff like that happens, gives them something to talk about for a few weeks
@@SuperAWaC pretty bored huh?
@@PrograError you bet
I'm gonna try this someday. I've never been on a military base before.
Think they'd give me a tour?
@@hamnchee not likely, but maybe if you asked nicely
I’d be like “just let me land I’ll cover my eyes when I land”
- Your type of aircraft?
- Cessna 206.
- Copy that, C-5 galaxy
"Desiderio Tower, HL1004"
"HL1004, Desiderio Tower whats type of aircraft and intention?"
"HL1004 Cessna 206 low on fuel"
"Roger. Mig-29 inbound for attack"
"confirm 1 soul onboard" "two" to his colleague "get another pair of handcuffs, its two guys"
On the part with Talon 96, he was speaking to a helicopter who was performing a maintenance test flight in the maintenance test flight valley.
Remember kids, “E” stands for “Extra fuel”!
and R on gearbox handle stands for Rocket mode
wojtekpolska Space Shuttle status confirmed, cleared to 239, go for moon strike! “and neutral means nothing to me...”
OR.......his auxiliary tank transfer pump would not move fuel to a useable main tank
Actually "E" stands for "E". Stupid.
"Check gear down"
*googles picture for Cessna 206
* it does not have retractable landing gear
Great job from the ATC here, he understood through the language barrier that the pilot just couldnt quite affirm that he was declaring a fuel emergency and understood that he needed to dig why a civilian would want to land at a MIL AFB...
My personal limitation has been to always have 1hr of fuel remaining at the destination airport. Works like a charm.
benter1978 we are talking about civil aviation.
@benter1978 An hour is more than enough for civil aviation "change of plans".
That might not always be enough, like the case with that surgeon in Delaware near the Dover airport.
"Number of souls?"
"2"
"copy, 1 soul and say aircraft type?"
"cessna 206"
"cessna 203"
"airport at 12 o'clock, 12 miles"
"negative contact"
"12 o'clock 8 miles"
"Negative contact"
"6 miles"
"negative contact"
*throws away headset*
😂🤣 Thank you! Best comment here!🤘
A good lesson for anyone wanting to negotiate with atc, took ~3.5m into the video before he got a vector, possibly longer in real time if silence was edited out. With only 20 minutes left in the tank you don't have 5 of them to waste.
The initial call should have been declaring an emergency, , request to land at
Then atc will follow up with what info they need, and issue a vector. Don't make ATC play guessing games, they want to help
South Korea flying around there there isn’t many air strips out there, Seems like he wandered too far and couldn’t make it home.
Also last calling aircraft into the airfields call sign is DUSTOFF FYI.
probably actually safer to land at the american base vs a ROK air base. no cultural barrier there, he would have been chewed out to no end.
i love how when they find the loop hole they're completely nice to him, just declare an emergency and youre good! lmao
Your type of aircraft?
Caessna 206
Copy NASA Spaceshuttle
Over used comment
Props to the pilot’s comprehension of English though. I’ve heard commercial asian pilots with worse comprehension of English landing at Class B airports!
Max W The Japanese and Thai are especially well versed in English. The Chinese and Koreans not so much. Most Japanese do flight training in the USA or Guam.
BLAMBERRY Except HL is a Korean aircraft country code.
the chinese do not give two fucks, even though most of them get their licenses out of pilot license mills in the usa
Yes. His English is good enough.
ATC: Check wheels down
Pilot: Am cranking them down now sir, give me a moment to put my sockets away
I find it amazing the towers and pilots are able to understand each other. This isn't just a non-native language thing; it's the same with two native English speakers -- between the speed with which things are said, a sort of slurring of the words, and the inevitable distortion of radios, what comes across is often different from what was intended. Maybe this is overcome by practice, or more likely by knowing the short list of things the other person SHOULD be saying.
Someone told me as this are recorded from the ground the signal quality is really bad, the distortion isn't as bad for the tower or the pilot.
Can confirm, generally there’s a little less distortion so understanding what they’re saying isn’t too bad. Catching everything at the speed it is said comes from expecting what they’ll say and practice
The diatortion is not because of data loss. It's because the microphone is trying to pick up your voice while cutting out engine noise. If it did not do that, all you'd hear is 'mmmmmmm'. So, think of the audio you hear as the human's voice + the background noise that occupies the same frequency the human is speaking at.