This is how you test drive an awd. Going around the block or standing outside dealership and saying "I want to tell you 5 things about ...." is useless. Good job .
Amazing!! A vid where someone ACTUALLY takes a trail capable vehicle and drives it ON A TRAIL!!! Well done. And frankly, the trail you went down are probably much more than what the average driver would attempt. While the TrailSport is not a rock climber or a trail buster it appears to have capabilities beyond what it will actually be asked to do. Could the Telluride X-Pro do this? Hmm...
Thank you! I certainly agree haha. This was a pretty gnarly trail especially for a Pilot. I’m not sure if a Telluride could do this honestly. The suspension doesn’t look like it’d articulate enough. Would be interesting to see for sure LOL
Good video Bern! One thing to point out is that even though the minimum clearance is lower than the Subarus, the effective ground clearance (or rocker clearance) is higher. It was 12.3” on my 2019 Passport, and now that I have a lift kit and taller tires it’s 16.5” (if you don’t count the rock sliders).
@@BernonCars I’m sure If you took a Subaru Outback wilderness on this same trail you’d be bashing the rocker. Not only because the less clearance, but because you’d have to actually “SEND IT” ☺️
Great video! I was impressed not only at what you attempted but what it was able to do! All the videos I’ve watched convinced me the main problem with it is the approach angle. It needs more ride height or a different front bumper/fascia
this thing looks like a dynamite vehicle for camper builds. Legit softroad capability, cavernous internal space, still relatively fun to drive on the highway. Wish it had more clearance but hopefully there will be lift kits available soon
Another great review. I love what Honda is doing, but I just wish it had even better towing & a hybrid version to improve fuel economy. Impressed with how well it did off-road!
I’m ordering two and waiting so happy to see someone with it on their own turf!!! What a treat also with @JonDZ commenting that made it even more special!! Great Job I click subscribe…. 0:51 … I should finish video first lol
Great review. Impressive considering the lack of height. Definitely needs a lift and better tires without going overboard for what it is. I hope the aftermarket accessories get better. Desperately needs a camping pullout drawer and sleeping deck options similar to what's out there for the 4Runner. Right now, it seems like it's largely custom based.
@Bern on Cars compared to the new kia telluride xpro , which is more capable ,solid and durable for not less than 8 years of ownership ? Without the needing of changing spare parts every while
Now this is an awesome video. Seeing the new Trailsport doing actual off roading & not just the usual interior review, how good it is for families, blah, blah , blah. (Although, I do love my 2019 Pilot Elite & how great it is for my wife & kids) LoL.
Darn I wish honda would give the option of a bench seat in 2nd row of the trailsport trim. Many people need the extra seating capacity vs having lame captain chairs.
From what I understand the full size spare prevents storing the extra seat under the floorboards in the back. From what I've seen on forums demand for the removable middle seat is very high, lots of folks unhappy that its not available on most trims
Great video, would love to have some interior shots of what you're seeing on the trail cam too! I'm actually glad it's not a hybrid. Definitely looking to the 2024 Passport to see all of the off-roads gadgets they've been working on.
A 2.5-3 inch lift plus 32-33 inch tires would significantly transform this vehicle into a trail monster. Hopefully a company decides that this is a worthy vehicle to mod.
This vid is One of the Best Off Road reviews that Hard Tested this Awesome Pilots Weaknesses and Strengths. Bern You Need To Give Verbal Credit To The Dealership That loaned you this Pilot. Honda of Torrence CA. THIS Video is One you need to add to your Research and Development studies library. For the Hobda Dealership That loaned Bern this Pilot Thank you for this, Bern and His Highly Skilled Spotter really effectively and Very Safely and Respectfully pushed this Pilot to its absolute capable limits. Way further and much better than TFL Ever Does. Bern ask your Dealership if they will loan you a passport in this same exact trim, and one other thing You should do is have the Dealership manager ride along with you and give his or her feedback as the experience the capabilities and restrictions of these great pilots and hope to see next passports so they Can give Honda Of Torrance thir Direct feed back which goes back to Japan developers for future improvements. This video is the best review and I watch them all because this Pilot is my next Honda purchase.
Good demo! 2 foot driving might work against you with this type of system. You might be better off letting the system work it out at a steady, light throttle, and figuring out which wheel has better traction. As you seemed to be doing later in the video. Of course, I realize you also must avoid crashing down on those rocks, so.....
If you put it in trail mode, its not suppose to spin that bad. the tech is suppose to apply break to the wheel that is spinning so it won't let it spin that bad. something is wrong for sure.
Thanks - so the Pilot transmission have an LSD in the front or anything, sounds like no? Does the car torque steer at all if you floor it on the road? I am a Subaru guy but having a hard time with the CVT , followed by the DI turbo 4 on the Ascent. I've been thinking about a Pilot TrailSport for next time around (Will wait another year to see if they make a Wilderness Ascent). But I really dislike torque steer most of all so that would be a deciding factor.
And thanks for watching! No LSD in front, just the fate of traction control haha. No torque steer, it feels very balanced under hard acceleration! You'd like it more than the Ascent
Nicely done. Didn’t the older ivtm-4 systems have a 1st/2nd gear lock button? I believe it is gone now so I wonder which drive mode, if any, put you the same as the old lock button? Also the crawl ratio you meantioned, do you need to be in manual mode I. 1st gear to achieve and continually get that 22:1 ratio or does it automatically hold 1st gear in Trail mode?
Thanks!! They did! VTM only worked in 1/2 gear and reverse. Putting it in Sand and Trail Mode works similarly to the old system, but this one can shift power side to side easier. That crawling ratio is in 1st gear manual mode! Trail mode does seem to keep you in 1/2 also
@@BernonCars yeah I just don't get it. Weird thing is when I sat and drove it, seemed to be high off the ground. Only drove the regular ones. Interior space is incredible. Feels almost like a full size truck.
@Rafa RS You're not grasping the Big Picture. I have seen many of these new reviews of Pilot. The Fast Lane and other auto press were at Sedona Arizona with Pilot. They had multiple TrailSport Pilots on 6/10 trail. The Big Picture is Honda didn't do this for Pilot. It was done for upcoming Ridgeline and Passport redesigns. We don't know what kind of tweaks they will have. One of the Ridgeline weaknesses is limited off-road potential. More people will use Ridgeline and Passport for off-road adventure. But these vehicles also have to ride good on -road. So it has to be balanced. They upgraded the IVTM4 Torque Vectorng AWD System. Similar to Accra Super Handling AWD but tuned differently. I'm not into that stuff but as Ridgeline owner know what's been ask for over many years. I seen hundreds of UA-cams. They want lift or suspension from factory. They don't want to mess up Driving Dynamics for a little extra off-road capability. So vehicles to really watch is Next Gen Ridgeline and Passport. Auto Press was impressed with Pilot TrailSport in Sedona Arizona.
Oh my Goodness!!! Honda should use this video to sell the Pilot. Honda should also use this video to learn what they can improve on the mid model refresh. Maybe 9.5 inches or 10 inches of ground clearance as an option.
unfortunately it didn’t make it up the last rock obstacle, which diminishes the perception of its trail-sportiness… maybe with better tire and a lift kit. i have a late model Ridgeline so this is clearly what is coming for it’s reported Trailsport version.
Love how you say wow. Pure joy famz!!
Pure joy!! 😂
This is how you test drive an awd. Going around the block or standing outside dealership and saying "I want to tell you 5 things about ...." is useless. Good job .
First real test of the Pilot! Bet you didn't tell anyone what you were going to do. AWSOME!
Hell yeah!! It did it like a champ
The best video showcasing the capabilities of the trailsport.
Thank you!
Amazing!! A vid where someone ACTUALLY takes a trail capable vehicle and drives it ON A TRAIL!!! Well done. And frankly, the trail you went down are probably much more than what the average driver would attempt. While the TrailSport is not a rock climber or a trail buster it appears to have capabilities beyond what it will actually be asked to do. Could the Telluride X-Pro do this? Hmm...
Thank you! I certainly agree haha. This was a pretty gnarly trail especially for a Pilot. I’m not sure if a Telluride could do this honestly. The suspension doesn’t look like it’d articulate enough. Would be interesting to see for sure LOL
Good video Bern! One thing to point out is that even though the minimum clearance is lower than the Subarus, the effective ground clearance (or rocker clearance) is higher. It was 12.3” on my 2019 Passport, and now that I have a lift kit and taller tires it’s 16.5” (if you don’t count the rock sliders).
Thanks Jon! Ahh good point! This thing rubbed it’s belly quite a lot 😂
@@BernonCars I’m sure If you took a Subaru Outback wilderness on this same trail you’d be bashing the rocker. Not only because the less clearance, but because you’d have to actually “SEND IT” ☺️
@@JonDZ_Adventuring hahahah yeah nothing like the torque of the 9 and 10 speed!
Great video! I was impressed not only at what you attempted but what it was able to do! All the videos I’ve watched convinced me the main problem with it is the approach angle. It needs more ride height or a different front bumper/fascia
Thank you! Right, it held its own! It definitely does need a better bumper and more clearance
this thing looks like a dynamite vehicle for camper builds. Legit softroad capability, cavernous internal space, still relatively fun to drive on the highway. Wish it had more clearance but hopefully there will be lift kits available soon
Right! I think they killed it, for being stock! Lift kits will definitely start coming out!
Another great review. I love what Honda is doing, but I just wish it had even better towing & a hybrid version to improve fuel economy. Impressed with how well it did off-road!
Thank you! Yeah it would be cool to see some other powertrains in the future! Ya never know haha
A lot of us don’t want all of that stuff. There is a simplicity here
I’m ordering two and waiting so happy to see someone with it on their own turf!!! What a treat also with @JonDZ commenting that made it even more special!! Great Job I click subscribe…. 0:51 … I should finish video first lol
Nice!!! Its always cool to see Jon here!! Thanks for watching!
Great to see it on a trail
Right!
Great review. Impressive considering the lack of height. Definitely needs a lift and better tires without going overboard for what it is. I hope the aftermarket accessories get better. Desperately needs a camping pullout drawer and sleeping deck options similar to what's out there for the 4Runner. Right now, it seems like it's largely custom based.
Thank you! Yeah I hope these get properly capable as time goes on!
Excellent video. One of your best Bernard. Well done. The new Pilot looks great.
Thank you Ben! Im super impressed
@Bern on Cars compared to the new kia telluride xpro , which is more capable ,solid and durable for not less than 8 years of ownership ? Without the needing of changing spare parts every while
@@amrashraf9559 the XPro is certainly not more capable than the Trailsport. Also Kia’s reliability has not always been a strong suit
@@BernonCars bt the kia telluride is selling very well in the states and scoring very high in reliability
Now this is an awesome video. Seeing the new Trailsport doing actual off roading & not just the usual interior review, how good it is for families, blah, blah , blah. (Although, I do love my 2019 Pilot Elite & how great it is for my wife & kids) LoL.
Glad you enjoyed it!!! I enjoyed making it! 😂
Darn I wish honda would give the option of a bench seat in 2nd row of the trailsport trim. Many people need the extra seating capacity vs having lame captain chairs.
I agree! Plus losing the flat floor is something that would annoy me
From what I understand the full size spare prevents storing the extra seat under the floorboards in the back. From what I've seen on forums demand for the removable middle seat is very high, lots of folks unhappy that its not available on most trims
@Neverending Bucket List Yes I've heard that too. But honda could still offer a sliding full bench seat (non-removeable) option on the trailsport.
Great video, would love to have some interior shots of what you're seeing on the trail cam too!
I'm actually glad it's not a hybrid. Definitely looking to the 2024 Passport to see all of the off-roads gadgets they've been working on.
Thank you! I was just thinking about how I’d like to get a second camera for different shots!! Keeping that in mind!
Tested the limits successfully 👍🏽
Yes indeed!!
Finally a real offroad review
Hell yeah, I’m glad you found it!!
Great video. This trailsport looks so much better without the cheesy flared fenders that came with launch package.
Thanks! I agree! Not a fan if those fender flares at all
@@BernonCars Hey, I like my Flares! LOL
Flagpole has some great trails. I only had time to come up from the lake side when I was there last spring.
Great video!
Thank you! I definitely wanna go back to explore some more, sooo much!
Great video 🔥 I was lucky enough to land one. Wish there was a skid plate under the diff, but I love it and can't wait for it to arrive.
Thank you! Nice!!! I’m sure some aftermarket brands will sell more skid plates soon!
I like that this is actually capable and will be reliable, unlike something like a Telluride X Pro...
Exactlyyy. Makes me curious how those handle off road lol
It's not a rock crawler. It's for dirt roads. A Ford Bronco is made for that.
@@AFRO_KEEN still cool that it can do it!
You should do a colab with Driving Sports TV when it comes to offroad.
That’s something I’d like to do! He’s a cool dude
A 2.5-3 inch lift plus 32-33 inch tires would significantly transform this vehicle into a trail monster. Hopefully a company decides that this is a worthy vehicle to mod.
did they increase the wheel well size? Otherwise 30.5” or 31” is the largest that will fit
Great review Bern.
Thank you!
This is a fantastic review!
Thank you!!
This vid is One of the Best Off Road reviews that Hard Tested this Awesome Pilots Weaknesses and Strengths. Bern You Need To Give Verbal Credit To The Dealership That loaned you this Pilot. Honda of Torrence CA. THIS Video is One you need to add to your Research and Development studies library.
For the Hobda Dealership That loaned Bern this Pilot Thank you for this, Bern and His Highly Skilled Spotter really effectively and Very Safely and Respectfully pushed this Pilot to its absolute capable limits. Way further and much better than TFL Ever Does.
Bern ask your Dealership if they will loan you a passport in this same exact trim, and one other thing You should do is have the Dealership manager ride along with you and give his or her feedback as the experience the capabilities and restrictions of these great pilots and hope to see next passports so they Can give Honda Of Torrance thir Direct feed back which goes back to Japan developers for future improvements.
This video is the best review and I watch them all because this Pilot is my next Honda purchase.
Thank you! But I didn’t get this from a dealership!
Awesome vid!
Thank you!!
Why is the parking sensor not deactivated on trail? Thats wild
Great review 👍
Thank you!
Good demo! 2 foot driving might work against you with this type of system. You might be better off letting the system work it out at a steady, light throttle, and figuring out which wheel has better traction. As you seemed to be doing later in the video. Of course, I realize you also must avoid crashing down on those rocks, so.....
Thank you! Yeah it just depends on the obstacle!
If you put it in trail mode, its not suppose to spin that bad. the tech is suppose to apply break to the wheel that is spinning so it won't let it spin that bad. something is wrong for sure.
Interesting!
Thanks - so the Pilot transmission have an LSD in the front or anything, sounds like no? Does the car torque steer at all if you floor it on the road? I am a Subaru guy but having a hard time with the CVT , followed by the DI turbo 4 on the Ascent. I've been thinking about a Pilot TrailSport for next time around (Will wait another year to see if they make a Wilderness Ascent). But I really dislike torque steer most of all so that would be a deciding factor.
And thanks for watching! No LSD in front, just the fate of traction control haha. No torque steer, it feels very balanced under hard acceleration! You'd like it more than the Ascent
the approach and the ground clearance need to improve! I really love this pilot
I hope they improve!!
Nicely done. Didn’t the older ivtm-4 systems have a 1st/2nd gear lock button? I believe it is gone now so I wonder which drive mode, if any, put you the same as the old lock button? Also the crawl ratio you meantioned, do you need to be in manual mode I. 1st gear to achieve and continually get that 22:1 ratio or does it automatically hold 1st gear in Trail mode?
Thanks!! They did! VTM only worked in 1/2 gear and reverse. Putting it in Sand and Trail Mode works similarly to the old system, but this one can shift power side to side easier. That crawling ratio is in 1st gear manual mode! Trail mode does seem to keep you in 1/2 also
This is the most wreckless shit I’ve ever seen lmao hell yea
Hahaha yeee yeeeee!!
Let's see the pilot trailsport vs explorer timberline
Hopefully I can get my hands on a Timberline!
What is the name of the color? It looks like there's some blue in it.
Sonic Grey Pearl!
You put a 2" lift on this thing and it could really do some work.
Right!!
Cool Honda, but that third gen 4runner is $$$
Oh absolutely it’s a tank! Walks over everything like no problem!
Waooww. Lol
waaaaw
11:45
Skid plate looooool
This car sucks that is too low to the ground. Most ridiculous ground clearance ever...
If only it was a little taller!!
@@BernonCars yeah I just don't get it. Weird thing is when I sat and drove it, seemed to be high off the ground. Only drove the regular ones. Interior space is incredible. Feels almost like a full size truck.
You must remember it also rides good on-road. That's what the engineers want good on-road good off-road.
@@fredmoss4540 This is not an off road vehicle anyway
@Rafa RS You're not grasping the Big Picture. I have seen many of these new reviews of Pilot. The Fast Lane and other auto press were at Sedona Arizona with Pilot. They had multiple TrailSport Pilots on 6/10 trail.
The Big Picture is Honda didn't do this for Pilot. It was done for upcoming Ridgeline and Passport redesigns.
We don't know what kind of tweaks they will have. One of the Ridgeline weaknesses is limited off-road potential.
More people will use Ridgeline and Passport for off-road adventure.
But these vehicles also have to ride good on -road. So it has to be balanced.
They upgraded the IVTM4 Torque Vectorng AWD System. Similar to Accra Super Handling AWD but tuned differently. I'm not into that stuff but as Ridgeline owner know what's been ask for over many years. I seen hundreds of UA-cams. They want lift or suspension from factory. They don't want to mess up Driving Dynamics for a little extra off-road capability. So vehicles to really watch is Next Gen Ridgeline and Passport. Auto Press was impressed with Pilot TrailSport in Sedona Arizona.
Tell me the truth. Did you hijack this car before doing the review?
Uhhh… no.
Rock crawlin with the Pilot love it
Hell yeah 😆
Oh my Goodness!!! Honda should use this video to sell the Pilot. Honda should also use this video to learn what they can improve on the mid model refresh. Maybe 9.5 inches or 10 inches of ground clearance as an option.
Can't wait to see the Passport in this new skin.
Thank you!! I think it performed quite well! More clearance would also be much appreciated
unfortunately it didn’t make it up the last rock obstacle, which diminishes the perception of its trail-sportiness… maybe with better tire and a lift kit. i have a late model Ridgeline so this is clearly what is coming for it’s reported Trailsport version.
Nice video Bern! I am the 100th liker just FYI. Finally on an offroad track not designed by Honda. How does this compare with a 4runner
Lets go! Thank you!
4Runner is def more capable off road, but the Pilot beats it in terms of driving and comfort on the road, and also cargo space
This video should be renamed, “WOW!” 😂
LOLL
20mpg = Lies , i got 15mpg just doing regular roads 225miles on 1 tank
Really great off road review. Well done!
Thanks a ton!