My father was my instructor. Before I did any landings, he kept having me practice "slow flight"; Nose up, throttle back, on the verge of a stall. He didn't say why until I asked. We were practicing landings with plenty of altitude. Landing is the most difficult task that most pilots perform, especially the pilots who hit the autopilot after their climbout and heading adjustments. To say that it is a necessary skill is an understatement. It is THE skill. My father had me practice landing after landing around the pattern. Pilot schools today crank out the students and many students share some blame, they are interested in moving up quickly instead of working on basic skills. Students who "fall behind" can get charged more. Slower students are also seen as "unfit" but when slower is actually "careful" the industry may have lost the better pilot - a button pushing driver, not a pilot, may make the seat.
As a flight instructor here. That student pilot should not have been allowed the solo endorsement. There can be a lot of pressure from a flight school to move students through but it's the flight instructor's responsibility 100%.
My experience was the opposite, where flight instructors milk every hour they can out of students. Why would they push them through if they get paid by the hour?
The instructor should never have the radio any more than a few inches from their mouth when watching a student's first solo. Quick verbal intervention from an astute instructor standing off the side of the runway, could have prevented this. We need to keep in mind that the student is under stress, high relative workload and has little to no experience if directional control is lost for some reason.
My instructor was nowhere near a radio on my first solo. He simply told me to do a full stop, got out of the a/c, and said, "Give me three T&Gs and a full stop." I didn't have time for fear or doubt, thankfully. He was a cowboy of a pilot and later killed himself and his student.
@thomasbell7033 Wow. Thats incredibly sad but Im happy for you as you admirably rose to the challenge. Im a new instructor and student solo touch and goes worry me. Im always wondering if the student will remember to set trim and flaps (my plane doesnt have them thankfully) to avoid the dreaded stall after liftoff. Go-arounds are probably the worst as they normally arent planned and can happen quickly
What @thomasbell7033 says is actually the usual way around here. No cowboys though - they make damn sure you're ready first. Which includes not just a few okay landings, but also being comfortable recovering from a bad one, making unplanned go arounds, stall/spin recognition and prevention, emergency landings and more. Some instructors have a handheld radio, but most I've seen don't, and I've never seen one run up into the tower. Maybe on small fields but certainly not on the larger towered ones.
@@RobtheAviator Little accident I just had: I was speeding down the runway in my NXCUB, and I hit a pebble going 33 knots, and flipped over. Obliterated my prop and dented the nose. Don’t know how much it is in damages yet, but I hope it isn’t too much 😅
Well, wasn’t really a pebble. After observing it, it’s about 3 inches across, and 4 inches high. I pushed the right rudder to avoid it, but that only made it worse.
@@littlet7556 more familiar than you. 20 mph faster and his survival chance would have been less than 1% but at the speed he crashed, wearing a seatbelt... Very good chance of survival
@@warehousedave7937 dude you’re describing survivability in a modern car, with airbags, crumple zones etc. In a 50 year old Cessna, it is miraculous that he survived.
Yes, because the human body doesn't go back to how it was. Even after it heals, it can function and feel quite differently than it did before you got hurt. People need to be aware of that.
I soloed on a _MUCH_ smaller runway (2000x40) than this (in a C-150), with trees off the approach end that basically tickled the tires. My first landing I didnt feel good about it and did a go-around. Landed fine on the second try. Instructor asked me why, I looked fine. I said I just felt uncomfortable about it. He said good call.
In a 150, solo, with full flaps, you will discover a very surprising behavior. Adding full power for a go around makes the plane pitch up and yaw left. You have to push forward with more force than you ever use in any other Cessna flying. When a second person is on board, the center of gravity is different and the pitch up is much more mild. I discovered this one week after I soloed. I added full power to go around and that nice little plane reared up like an unruly horse.
My instructor told me never to use full flaps. On one of the planes the you had to switch the flaps off when they reached the correct angle. I forgot to turn the flaps off on approach once and the nose pitched up and it felt like someone slammed the brakes.
@@Oi-mj6dv I hope that this doesn't sound to ambiguous, but it looks like the pilot pitched up too high, or the plane pitched up on its own and the pilot did not correct to bring the nose down. Also, the pilot gave incorrect rudder inputs, or did not correct the plane's natural tendency to turn left. (That tendency is called "P factor", and it is most pronounced at low speed, high angle of attack, and full power.)
My flight instructor made barely stalling a game. Like, we’d spend time at altitude just having me go as slowly as possible, drawing out the stall for as long as I could. We’d do this repeatedly until I could play Morse code with the stall horn. Then, and only then, did she let me start landing. I’ll always be thankful she managed to Miyagi me like that.
That kinda of stall had nothing (ok almost) nothing to do with a sudden low altitude stall like this one. The idea is not to get to that state. Max power, trim nose down and/or push on the yoke, right rudder and flaps to a better setting. If you stall at a low altitude, you'll forget all your morse codes.. Recovery will be very difficult. Same for stalls in the pattern turning final.
@@Bren39I think the point was to intimately learn about the zone between flight and stalling so that the student would be highly capable to keep it within parameters
@@mal2ksc At that rate of climb, all he can see is blue sky in front of him--no ground reference at all. He was already in a panic situation, so probably sensory overloaded, and a crash (at some point) was inevitable.
We were all there at one point (all of us who are pilots at least). When I was a fresh off my solo, practicing touch and goes, I was trying a soft field takeoff. Well I didn't quite have the technique right, and I yanked that C150 off the ground into ground effect, well below the speed that it was ready. The left wing partially stalled, had a big wing drop, and I was a hair away from stuffing it but somehow I got the wings level again and climbed away. Just about crapped my pants. I got lucky. But let me tell you, it was a useful lesson. You can't hold a student back until they're absolutely perfect in every way -- I've seen instructors do that and it discourages students and eventually burns them out. No matter how strict an instructor is, you can't control everything. Sometimes you have to let them spread their wings before they're fully ready.
@@matthewmbober4426 Obviously. But you can't always know how a student is going to react before they do it. That's my point. It's easy to say after a crash "oh yeah, that student wasn't ready". But hindsight is 20/20.
That was the fault of the instructor. They even commented that prior to this day there were problems with the students ability but then the instructor, for unknown reasons, he allowed the student to solo when he obviously wasn't ready.
@@ArchGBUStanton In my case I was so frustrated at not being able to go solo until well after I knew I could do it. Which in hindsight was a good instructor.
@grahamthebaronhesketh. I taught myself to fly the same way. I knew I could fly the pattern but I practiced climbouts for a month each time climbing higher and cutting power and bringing it back down to the runway for a full stop so I knew I could abort a takeoff safely. Once I was climbing out to a predetermined point of no return I took a deep breathe and started my first pattern and I was scared. But I flew it perfectly and landed the same spot I took off. That was the day it all came together.
They were lucky to have survived that even at that low altitude especially nosing straight into the ground. As hard as you saw that plane hit the ground that’s how hard their body hit the yoke and instrument panel.
@@Aculon4389 What spelling? The guy said certificate. In Canada, it's called a License, not a certificate. That's an American term that is not applicable elsewhere.
Yeah, that was drilled into me as an instinct, bounce and float for about couple of seconds and its go around, level wings, max throttle, get airspeed, gently pull up.
I had a car crash, and the car overturned many times downhill for 250 feet. I remembered the impact and the hard G-forces - equivalent to that of the fighter jet pilot ejection seat. I had sustained two severed fingers, smashed face, exploded fracture with my femur with losses 6 inches of bone, muscles and flesh, fractured neck and loss 5 pints of blood. The surgeons, paramedics, firemen, and Police have all said I shouldn't have survived in that state and the state of the car, too. You can survive beyond reasonable doubt (with no other explanation)! Tis true about a border collie dog was chasing the ball on the field, the owner threw a tennis ball a bit too hard across the turf but the strong wind curved the ball heading sideway off the White cliff of Dover while the dog still focused on the ball, then the dog dropped out of sight. The owner collasped in shock and horror, and then he grieved ... later, he recomposed himself, picked himself up, and went around to the bottom to collect the body for burial ... as he got down, he couldn't find the body. He assumed the body was claimed by the sea, so he went home to his wife, grieving. He was stunned when the vet had contacted him a few hours later because they scanned for the chip and found the details, they told him the dog was found limping and whimpering at the bottom by the walkers, they orignally thought the dog must have slipped from the rockery which sprained something and handed the dog to the nearest vet. They never the slightest thought he would have fallen 350 feet from the top! The dog were just bashed up, sprained, and bruises. Nothing was broken. The owner owns up for his stupidity of throwing the ball near the cliff as he has done many times before without an issue and will not do it again unless it's far inland.
Looks like the type of person who would panic and drown on their first scuba dive. Repetition overcomes panic because it makes you do things automatically. You don't have to think.
Being a former pilot and scuba diver it is a good comparison because they both train you to do something completely against your instincts.. in scuba diving you never hold your breath.. your natural instinct is to hold your breath when your face goes underwater.. if you do it will kill or seriously injure you.. when your plane stalls and falls steeply your natural instinct is to pull back on yolk to go up!! But you are just increasing the stall.. you must put stick forward against instinct and gain airspeed to fly… training training training
I also landed the first airplane I flew in.. also took it off … I solo’d at 9 hours.. but I flew radio control for years before that… I wound up buying a long ez and having the best decade of my life!! Age and eyesight grounded me….
Not everyone has the talent to fly an airplane. I remember practicing takeoff and landings in a Mooney Ranger. The instructor says to me I see you have flown Mooneys before? I said no. This is my first time.
@@williamdixon1992I think you should phrase it differently. Anybody can fly an airplane given the proper training and time. It just takes a lot more effort and patience for others.
@@Icequake.No, some people *just don't* have the aptitude to pilot a plane. In tnflygirl's case, no-one told her what she needed to hear - and now she's dead.
@@JSmith73100% agree, I know of a guy who failed his CPL flight test not once, not twice, but three times! Spoke to the examiner and he said there’s no way the way he’s flying that he would pass him(examiner is a great and considerate guy). When I hear stuff like that, I realize flying planes is really not meant for everyone. Some people really shouldn’t be in the air
John, shut up, the student pilot was coming in for a landing, would have raising the flaps prevented him from bouncing down the runway? or veering off the runway toward the control tower too? the student pilot was a complete idiot, something you both seem to have in common.
Yes and no. You shouldn’t have any less than 20 degrees of flaps when applying full power until you have established a positive rate of climb. Then from there, retract them in 10 degree increments. If fully retracted from the beginning, the plane won’t “float” as long and will drop out of the sky. That combined with the urge to pull the nose up will result in a stall. Not trying to be a know-it-all, just sharing from what I learned in private training. Hope this helps you understand a little better!
Not true. He was slow, raising flaps would have lost him a lot of lift. He was already bouncing and out of control. He needed to stay level to regain some speed then pitch for airspeed to climb for the go around. He was slow then tried to do a steep turn, which is the recipie for a stall spin.
checklist states you leave in flaps until specific speed and climb figures, flaps incresse the angle of attack of the wings leading to greater lift, pulling flaps too early can lead into a secondary stall and complicate matters further
Im honestly glad i did a bunch o traffic patterns before my solo i had a tendency to get slow on turns its nice that my instructor picked up on it and kept unsatting untill it got fixed i just had my solo yesterday and it went great
Yes! I had a sort of opposite issue, I was always going too fast and trying to force the plane around the pattern. Finally one day my CFI asked Tower for a short final then pulled power when we were opposite the numbers. Best landing I had made up to that point, just gliding it in. After than I learned how to manage the plane's energy.
@@429thunderjet2older like the 20th century with a less advanced carburettor and less capable engine of a 100 hp or however they make? Right.. Especially the more rudimentary catalytic converter.
@@louly3212 no cats on airplanes. Cessna hasn't built a 150/152 for about twentyish years now and yeah 150 was 100 hp, 152 had 110 hp I think it was. 152 was the newer version of the 150, same basic trainer type airplane though. 152 flap angle was limited to 30° instead of 40° like the 150.
I learned to fly on one of the shortest, most difficult runways in the area. It had a slope, ALWAYS had crosswind, and insane amount of thermals in the final. My instructor had me land so often until my landing was butter. Then he had me do the same with emergency engine off landings. Only then he took me for my first landing on another, bigger airstrip. I feel like most students don't get enough practise in landings.
I wasn't nervous on my first solo because I was too busy concentrating on procedures, so I didn't have time to think about it. However, I was always nervous anytime I sent a student on their first solo as an instructor. Anytime a student was soloing, I was nervous. It didn't matter if it was their first solo or their last x-country, I worried.
I went right from Pvt into Com'l training....and chose a Citabria and Mooney for complex aircraft. On my first take-off in the taildragger my WWII crusty and tough instructor barked in my ear..."LOOK at your slip indicator (ball way out of center - pegged to the right)....NOW you're going to learn what a rudder is, and how to fly"! It served me well, esp the night I made a landing at a mountain airport (Columbia, CA), C-172 with 3 on board, - high on the approach - full flaps to try to make the landing zone, running out of runway...went to do the go-around, hit the flap switch "up" full power to climb out....trees coming up...plane barely climbing...stall horn blaring. See the electric flap switch failed and flaps are stuck down at 40 degrees. All the slow flight training came into play as we staggered back into the air and slowly nursed it around into a right hand pattern barely 100' above the trees, hanging on a stall...made it around and got it back on the ground. Went to dinner...came back to the plane and after multiple attempts, got the flaps to retract...flew back to the bay area and made a "no-flap" landing back at Hayward. Tough training saved the day.
In the final moments you can clearly see that the flaps were deployed. They are supposed to be retracted and plane levelled to achieve climb speed before climbing out on a go around.
The first time I went off on my own, I mean a solo flight from one airport to another with no instructor involved, when I took off I was like "Oh my Lord, why did I do that? Now I have to land at some point!"
Only retract 10°!!! If you don all flaps during a go around attempt that will cause you to quickly sink and could cause panic. Carb heat in Full power First 10° of flaps After you get positive speed and climb then retract the next 10° Then repeat for last 10°>@@mikeanderton4688
Going around should be your default decision, totally okay. I had two go arounds on my first landing attempt on my check ride! I still passed, and all I was told was "good decision making". DPE is a retired airline pilot. Don't solo if you're not ready, don't land if you're not ready.
Thankfully, I learned from a WW2 pilot. When slow even in a 150, P factor needs to be anticipated when opening the throttle. Trying to lift a falling wing with aileron, will increase the AOA and induce the stall. He taught me the proper use of rudder especially when low and slow. I am a true believer in basic aerobatics as any unusual flight attitude will make most pilots hesitate to take corrective action. I have flown with many PP's who are terrified of stalls and never do one after primary training. If you suck in your breath performing a stall at 3,000 feet, you have no business in the left seat.
same. Sometimes people will blame everything but the actual reason of the problem. Some people just aren't fit to be pilots, and we're all better off that way.
This is what happens when you allow baby pilots to teach baby pilots. You should have a MINIMUM of 1000hrs of flight time before you’re allowed to teach.
In 55 years I've flown with 10,000 hour pilots that were well beyond unsafe. I'm not sure BFRs don't get pencil whipped. IF he can fly a 182 around doesn't mean he can fly a 414 or ANY IFR.
I admit it’s been a while since I went through pilot training. But back then (in Canada) we were taught and practiced stalls, spins, and spiral dives. This person on their first solo probably wouldn’t have got that far in training yet but I recall practicing all those gave me a real good feel of how the plane feels just before it enters one and to avoid it. I never came close to stalling intentionally.
This person should not be piloting a scooter, much less a Cessna! I used to want to be a pilot, but it is prohibitively expensive. Maybe when I’m older, if my investments work out.
I remember my I structure saying "first, fly the plane".... on ither words don't grt so distracted that you stall or get in to some other pickle while figuring out whatever the emergency is.😊
Before I solo'ed my instructor made me do go arounds until I was comfortable with them. He always said it's one of the most important arrows in the quiver. And yes, my first landing attempt on solo was a go around. I think in general we push the cattle down the chute too quickly these days.
I’ll blame the flight instructors, they are not teaching their students energy management, bounce landing, go around technique, stable approach criteria, or decision making ✈️ and the most important thing , not everyone can fly , and they’re failing to identify them ,
I am under the impression that there is an amount of pilots out there that have gotten green lights while they shouldn't because the people around them tried to be nice to them. It's not easy to put your foot down when a guy or girl has been working SO hard to get there but they just don't have it in them. I would not want to be the one that ruins their dreams or makes life difficult for them but you have to. Not doing so can have much worse consequences. Your not helping them by giving them the benefit of the doubt all the time.
Student pilot here, do you think he could have saved it by decreasing AOA and adding full power? It’s seems like a lot of accidents could be prevented from those 2 steps
Shocked that the pilot survived. Airspeed is vital. Either land the plane or get your speed back up. Stalling is the worst sin, and I don't know how a pilot is allowed to solo without understanding this completely.
I don’t understand how someone so bad at flying was allowed to solo.. my instructor had me fly the plane while he sat silently for several takeoff & landings before signing off on my ability to solo. I think being able to fly without any feedback(good or bad) from another person in the cockpit is essential to judging whether you’re good enough to solo.
As a former flight instructor, and public school teacher, my assessment of the situation is that the student did not grasp the knowledge of the full use of the rudder in combination with the aileron inputs to maintain control of the aircraft in a crosswind situation. This is very common during the learning process. What I have used in the past to bring a student up to speed in this area, is to have the student fly down the runway at approximately a foot above the ground, using rudder inputs to keep the nose of the aircraft pointed in line with the centerline, literally keeping the centerline coming towards you, right between your legs, and using adequate enough aileron control to keep the aircraft from being pushed left or right away from the centerline. Easiest way to see that sight picture is to have the student line up on the left or right edge of the upwind side of the centerline, and to use enough aileron to keep it there as you use enough rudder to keep the nose of the aircraft pointed straight down the runway, again keeping the centerline coming squarely between your legs. Once a student grasps that concept, he/she now has complete lateral control of the aircraft, and will land on the centerline of the runway every time. Hope this helps someone in the teaching or learning phase of flight ✈️ 🙏.
I'm a flight instructor. This is the most bizarre flying video I've seen. I couldn't believe what was happening and, at first, thought that there had been a control system failure. It almost looks like the airshow act where a non-pilot takes off solo and flies around the airport.
It's the flight instructor who didn't know what they were doing here... The blind leading the blind. Luckily this poor kid survived. (I've been a CFI for 30 yrs).
I went to flight school at 17 years old and can say from experience that certain people just aren’t cut out to fly… and you know from the very first day . These places just want their money.
The idea of being a pilot sounds really cool, but some people just aren't cut out for it, or may need to take it slower while they develop necessary skills and attitudes. I'm glad the student survived, and i hope he/she never pilots a plane ever again.
The actual wing stall occured after the plane started descending, not when the climbing topped out as understood from the narrator. The stall had nothing to do with descending itself. It happened that only then the AOA went abovr critical on the left wing and a rapid left rolling acceleration occured as it can be seen before impact. Never apply rudder to have the yawing motion ball go anywhere outside of the middle when flying at high AOA, unless you wanna throw the plane into a spin.
I ride motorcycles and also am licensed as a rotary pilot. Riding/flying motorcycles/helicopters slow is much harder than controlling them at high speeds. Every ride, every flight will consist in some part of flying or riding slow. Can't say the same for riding/flying fast.
How could any instructor allow that student to fly a solo. That is just so crazy. Not only was he a danger to himself but he also was a danger to the community he was flying over.
An instructors job is to judge stupid. Many people don't belong in the sky. An instructors job is not to get them in the air. It's to make them good safe pilots even if that means they flunk the class. Especially if it means they flunk the class.
He learned the one lesson every pilot should learn from the very beginning. If there is no airflow over the wings, you will stall! Also don’t make any abrupt turns!
I've seen 2 plane crashes: One was a Cessna near an airport that had just taken off. The first when I was 14. It was a water drop plane taking off from Hollywood, Burbank. You could hear the engines faulter. You hope for the best but you knew what was coming. From my back yard I could only watch as the pilot tried to make it to the 101 which was under construction. The plane wouldn't do it so he picked out the biggest yard he could find and crashed in a yard about 1/4 mile from where I was standing. This was a brave man. Both events were equally sickening.
Crazy how many mistakes were made here. This person was not ready for a solo!
i guess he has a mental tendency of ... just put the bird down when near tarmac.
Understatement, to say the least.
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The front tire buckled under the weight causing the Sudden Direction change to the left after the first bounce...
@@mr.smitty1804so?…..
My father was my instructor. Before I did any landings, he kept having me practice "slow flight"; Nose up, throttle back, on the verge of a stall. He didn't say why until I asked. We were practicing landings with plenty of altitude.
Landing is the most difficult task that most pilots perform, especially the pilots who hit the autopilot after their climbout and heading adjustments. To say that it is a necessary skill is an understatement. It is THE skill. My father had me practice landing after landing around the pattern.
Pilot schools today crank out the students and many students share some blame, they are interested in moving up quickly instead of working on basic skills. Students who "fall behind" can get charged more. Slower students are also seen as "unfit" but when slower is actually "careful" the industry may have lost the better pilot - a button pushing driver, not a pilot, may make the seat.
Mastering slow flight also sets the foundations for instrument flying skills.
Instruction went bad in the 70s when all the real old timer pilots started retiring.
CP rated, 55 yrs.
It’s not that hard. Grow up.
WOW. If that's true, are we seeing more accidents? @@hotrodray6802
Well, thank you profesor. Aren't you special.
Eventually we are going to run out of cessnas.
Was gonna like this but noticed it has 152 likes
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@@TheEdgeboialmost at 172
they are still making brand new c172s. crazy to crash on first solo. bad instructor perhaps.
@@1compaqedr8new cost over 300k, 😵💫
As a flight instructor here. That student pilot should not have been allowed the solo endorsement. There can be a lot of pressure from a flight school to move students through but it's the flight instructor's responsibility 100%.
Yeah, shouldn't the student participate in a flight where the instructor has little to no interaction first?
My experience was the opposite, where flight instructors milk every hour they can out of students. Why would they push them through if they get paid by the hour?
If I'm paying for lessons, I'm taking my time.
Exactly.. the instructor should be deeply scrutinized ..
@@seth7745 many flight schools don't charge by the hour but on a package. They make more profit the less hours you take to solo or to PPL.
The instructor should never have the radio any more than a few inches from their mouth when watching a student's first solo. Quick verbal intervention from an astute instructor standing off the side of the runway, could have prevented this. We need to keep in mind that the student is under stress, high relative workload and has little to no experience if directional control is lost for some reason.
Totally. My instructor jumped up into the tower for my first solo just in case.
@@Brian.Murray Nice one 😀
My instructor was nowhere near a radio on my first solo. He simply told me to do a full stop, got out of the a/c, and said, "Give me three T&Gs and a full stop." I didn't have time for fear or doubt, thankfully.
He was a cowboy of a pilot and later killed himself and his student.
@thomasbell7033 Wow. Thats incredibly sad but Im happy for you as you admirably rose to the challenge. Im a new instructor and student solo touch and goes worry me. Im always wondering if the student will remember to set trim and flaps (my plane doesnt have them thankfully) to avoid the dreaded stall after liftoff. Go-arounds are probably the worst as they normally arent planned and can happen quickly
What @thomasbell7033 says is actually the usual way around here. No cowboys though - they make damn sure you're ready first. Which includes not just a few okay landings, but also being comfortable recovering from a bad one, making unplanned go arounds, stall/spin recognition and prevention, emergency landings and more.
Some instructors have a handheld radio, but most I've seen don't, and I've never seen one run up into the tower. Maybe on small fields but certainly not on the larger towered ones.
Stall spin 40 feet above ground is crazyyyyyyyyyyyy
Ikr
Happens all the time. Be vigilant and fly safe.
@@RobtheAviator Little accident I just had: I was speeding down the runway in my NXCUB, and I hit a pebble going 33 knots, and flipped over. Obliterated my prop and dented the nose. Don’t know how much it is in damages yet, but I hope it isn’t too much 😅
Well, wasn’t really a pebble. After observing it, it’s about 3 inches across, and 4 inches high. I pushed the right rudder to avoid it, but that only made it worse.
Found out it was 4K in damages 😐
The only thing this student did right was to wear the seatbelt.
You... wanna bet on that ?
Yeah even the most casual flight simmer could tell you, this is about as bad as you can do it.
And turning away from the terminal.
The report doesnt even say if they were wearing the seatbelt tho.. For all we know he wasnt
Sofa king true
The fact that the pilot survived that face first crash is just unbelievable.
Not unbelievable. A fall from that distance means he was maybe moving at 40 MPH. Wearing a seatbelt, you will survive that.
@warehousedave7937 , I guess you aren't familiar with g-force and physics. I'm sure he was close to death
A miracle!!!
@@littlet7556 more familiar than you. 20 mph faster and his survival chance would have been less than 1% but at the speed he crashed, wearing a seatbelt... Very good chance of survival
@@warehousedave7937 dude you’re describing survivability in a modern car, with airbags, crumple zones etc. In a 50 year old Cessna, it is miraculous that he survived.
Surviving is one thing, but having to live the rest of your life with injuries that change your life is another thing. Stay safe
There's so much truth to that. Even if the pain isn't great at a younger age it will be. It will be.
@@ArchGBUStantonEventually we start remembering all those little incidents that make your older body ache.
My dad always said each injury “comes back to haunt ya”
Yes, because the human body doesn't go back to how it was. Even after it heals, it can function and feel quite differently than it did before you got hurt. People need to be aware of that.
So true. I used to cycle a lot in my 20s. Now my knees hurt like hell.
I soloed on a _MUCH_ smaller runway (2000x40) than this (in a C-150), with trees off the approach end that basically tickled the tires. My first landing I didnt feel good about it and did a go-around. Landed fine on the second try. Instructor asked me why, I looked fine. I said I just felt uncomfortable about it. He said good call.
Don't break your own arm, patting yourself on the back...LOL!
I'll bet you have a sweet bike and cool lesther jacket to match, ehh Maverick?
@@codymoe4986 Ok, hotshot. You sure you're not projecting? The guy was just telling his story.
Nice! Gut feeling is the best thing sometimes
@@codymoe4986 You're a restart
Go with your gut
In a 150, solo, with full flaps, you will discover a very surprising behavior. Adding full power for a go around makes the plane pitch up and yaw left. You have to push forward with more force than you ever use in any other Cessna flying. When a second person is on board, the center of gravity is different and the pitch up is much more mild.
I discovered this one week after I soloed. I added full power to go around and that nice little plane reared up like an unruly horse.
scary!
I know what you mean- ive felt it.
My instructor told me never to use full flaps. On one of the planes the you had to switch the flaps off when they reached the correct angle. I forgot to turn the flaps off on approach once and the nose pitched up and it felt like someone slammed the brakes.
Elevator stall?
@@Oi-mj6dv I hope that this doesn't sound to ambiguous, but it looks like the pilot pitched up too high, or the plane pitched up on its own and the pilot did not correct to bring the nose down. Also, the pilot gave incorrect rudder inputs, or did not correct the plane's natural tendency to turn left. (That tendency is called "P factor", and it is most pronounced at low speed, high angle of attack, and full power.)
My flight instructor made barely stalling a game.
Like, we’d spend time at altitude just having me go as slowly as possible, drawing out the stall for as long as I could. We’d do this repeatedly until I could play Morse code with the stall horn.
Then, and only then, did she let me start landing.
I’ll always be thankful she managed to Miyagi me like that.
That kinda of stall had nothing (ok almost) nothing to do with a sudden low altitude stall like this one. The idea is not to get to that state. Max power, trim nose down and/or push on the yoke, right rudder and flaps to a better setting. If you stall at a low altitude, you'll forget all your morse codes.. Recovery will be very difficult. Same for stalls in the pattern turning final.
@@Bren39I think the point was to intimately learn about the zone between flight and stalling so that the student would be highly capable to keep it within parameters
@@Bren39 Wasn't the biggest mistake trying to turn at all, rather than just climbing out?
@@mal2ksc At that rate of climb, all he can see is blue sky in front of him--no ground reference at all. He was already in a panic situation, so probably sensory overloaded, and a crash (at some point) was inevitable.
@@mal2kscTrying to do both was a mistake. Even if you're not turning, staying low and gaining some speed before climbing isn't a bad idea.
Completely oblivious to basics of coordinated flight ... Instructor, your ready to solo!?
ikr
We were all there at one point (all of us who are pilots at least). When I was a fresh off my solo, practicing touch and goes, I was trying a soft field takeoff. Well I didn't quite have the technique right, and I yanked that C150 off the ground into ground effect, well below the speed that it was ready.
The left wing partially stalled, had a big wing drop, and I was a hair away from stuffing it but somehow I got the wings level again and climbed away. Just about crapped my pants. I got lucky. But let me tell you, it was a useful lesson.
You can't hold a student back until they're absolutely perfect in every way -- I've seen instructors do that and it discourages students and eventually burns them out.
No matter how strict an instructor is, you can't control everything. Sometimes you have to let them spread their wings before they're fully ready.
The basics of grammar are hard enough! You are = you're
@@chad1755yeah and sometimes you DON'T. This was by no means a success.
@@matthewmbober4426 Obviously. But you can't always know how a student is going to react before they do it. That's my point. It's easy to say after a crash "oh yeah, that student wasn't ready".
But hindsight is 20/20.
He has since became a captain for JetBlue
YEP. I GOT IT😂
JetBlue is great, with an excellent track record. So I don’t know what your getting at here…….
More like Spirit airlines.
@johnnylego807 Nah, he never made it past the Spirit Airlines Kumeti
With landing skills like that, they could fly for Ryan Air! 😂
Clearly the student was not ready for the first solo.
I suspect so
That was the fault of the instructor. They even commented that prior to this day there were problems with the students ability but then the instructor, for unknown reasons, he allowed the student to solo when he obviously wasn't ready.
@@ArchGBUStanton In my case I was so frustrated at not being able to go solo until well after I knew I could do it. Which in hindsight was a good instructor.
@grahamthebaronhesketh. I taught myself to fly the same way. I knew I could fly the pattern but I practiced climbouts for a month each time climbing higher and cutting power and bringing it back down to the runway for a full stop so I knew I could abort a takeoff safely. Once I was climbing out to a predetermined point of no return I took a deep breathe and started my first pattern and I was scared. But I flew it perfectly and landed the same spot I took off. That was the day it all came together.
@@jamesordwayultralightpilot Well done,
They were lucky to have survived that even at that low altitude especially nosing straight into the ground. As hard as you saw that plane hit the ground that’s how hard their body hit the yoke and instrument panel.
When I finally found an instructor I told him I was in no hurry, I wanted to feel totally ready before I soloed etc. It worked for me.
You don't get brownie points for soloing earlier than someone else!
Must me nice to be a millionaire.
@@unsignedmusic Millionaire? Why would they be a millionaire?
@@dalegreer3095 How many fathers took their families to their death because of ego [ not getting IFR license ]
@@unsignedmusicdo you really go through life broke and salty?
That instructor needs to lose their certification...that student did not know proper procedures.
Right? Porpoising, check. Freaking out, check. Stalling, check. Crashing, check.
“License”
@@P.Paramowhy are you correcting spelling if they didn’t say that word at all
@@Aculon4389 What spelling? The guy said certificate. In Canada, it's called a License, not a certificate. That's an American term that is not applicable elsewhere.
The pilot survived, but his wallet didn’t
Student pilots have renters insurance..the instructor has insurance and the owner has insurance.
His wallet showed no changes in thickness.
That may have covered the Plane...but I bet it didn't cover the Medical...and I bet he's got constant reminders..
@@anthonyivy1305 Renters insurance covers medical
@@anthonyivy1305medical? It happened in Canada, not some 3rd world country like the US
Yeah, that was drilled into me as an instinct, bounce and float for about couple of seconds and its go around, level wings, max throttle, get airspeed, gently pull up.
How injured was he? That was a brutal impact
He hit his head, so there was little damage to his body.
@@johnmorykwas2343isn’t that bad for u?
@@zhangletju 😂
severe, but alive
I had a car crash, and the car overturned many times downhill for 250 feet. I remembered the impact and the hard G-forces - equivalent to that of the fighter jet pilot ejection seat. I had sustained two severed fingers, smashed face, exploded fracture with my femur with losses 6 inches of bone, muscles and flesh, fractured neck and loss 5 pints of blood. The surgeons, paramedics, firemen, and Police have all said I shouldn't have survived in that state and the state of the car, too.
You can survive beyond reasonable doubt (with no other explanation)!
Tis true about a border collie dog was chasing the ball on the field, the owner threw a tennis ball a bit too hard across the turf but the strong wind curved the ball heading sideway off the White cliff of Dover while the dog still focused on the ball, then the dog dropped out of sight.
The owner collasped in shock and horror, and then he grieved ... later, he recomposed himself, picked himself up, and went around to the bottom to collect the body for burial ... as he got down, he couldn't find the body.
He assumed the body was claimed by the sea, so he went home to his wife, grieving.
He was stunned when the vet had contacted him a few hours later because they scanned for the chip and found the details, they told him the dog was found limping and whimpering at the bottom by the walkers, they orignally thought the dog must have slipped from the rockery which sprained something and handed the dog to the nearest vet. They never the slightest thought he would have fallen 350 feet from the top!
The dog were just bashed up, sprained, and bruises. Nothing was broken.
The owner owns up for his stupidity of throwing the ball near the cliff as he has done many times before without an issue and will not do it again unless it's far inland.
With all those problems, why the hell did the cfi sign the pilot out for a solo 🤔🙄
INSTRUCTOR EGO? IN A HURRY TO SOLO.? NEEDED MORE STICK TIME! LOVE STICK TIME❤ LOVE FLYING❤
ALWAYS HAD A FLIHT DEBRIEF AFTER EVERY FLIGHT.
@@howardtucker2423your caps lock is on.
I guess you didn't watch the video
@@howardtucker2423same here but why you gotta yell
Soloed too early, p factor on go around, stall and spin by over rotation.
Apparently he hadn't had the words "more right rudder" yelled at him enough times.
@@dillonlapointe636 That's why I bought the t-shirt. I got tired of saying it.
@@dillonlapointe636 Lol, now there's something I remember from my student days... my instructor chirping, "right rudder... right rudder......"
Take note that the instructor was aware of this kids tendency to make these mistakes, but still approved him for solo flight
I guess you didnt watch the video
...?@@flyguyry1
@user-rt7vl9ky3r yeah lets blame the blacks, very smart
Waaaaa, Darwin needs to make collections.
Check out the video. It’s interesting
Some people just can’t fly, like some people can’t drive.
Not everyone is built to be a pilot. He's one of them. He did everything you're not supposed to do. Glad to hear he's okay.
Dang man. This student was NOT ready.
Looks like the type of person who would panic and drown on their first scuba dive. Repetition overcomes panic because it makes you do things automatically. You don't have to think.
yeah honestly… my first ever flight with no aviation experience i landed the plane on my own it’s not hard 💀
It can go from fun to Oh Crap quickly during a dive for new students.
That's why I gave up dive master course, jokers trying to drown themselves.
Being a former pilot and scuba diver it is a good comparison because they both train you to do something completely against your instincts.. in scuba diving you never hold your breath.. your natural instinct is to hold your breath when your face goes underwater.. if you do it will kill or seriously injure you.. when your plane stalls and falls steeply your natural instinct is to pull back on yolk to go up!! But you are just increasing the stall.. you must put stick forward against instinct and gain airspeed to fly… training training training
I also landed the first airplane I flew in.. also took it off … I solo’d at 9 hours.. but I flew radio control for years before that… I wound up buying a long ez and having the best decade of my life!! Age and eyesight grounded me….
Students rely too much on instructors. Instructors just keep talking and helping without taking time to let students absorb.
Some people should never be allowed to solo
Not everyone has the talent to fly an airplane. I remember practicing takeoff and landings in a Mooney Ranger. The instructor says to me I see you have flown Mooneys before? I said no. This is my first time.
@@williamdixon1992I think you should phrase it differently. Anybody can fly an airplane given the proper training and time. It just takes a lot more effort and patience for others.
woudn't be suprised to find the guy on the front right seat pretty soon...
@@Icequake.No, some people *just don't* have the aptitude to pilot a plane. In tnflygirl's case, no-one told her what she needed to hear - and now she's dead.
@@JSmith73100% agree, I know of a guy who failed his CPL flight test not once, not twice, but three times! Spoke to the examiner and he said there’s no way the way he’s flying that he would pass him(examiner is a great and considerate guy). When I hear stuff like that, I realize flying planes is really not meant for everyone. Some people really shouldn’t be in the air
The almost pilot should have raised the flaps. Climbing with full flaps equals crash. It's also called checklist.
John, shut up, the student pilot was coming in for a landing, would have raising the flaps prevented him from bouncing down the runway? or veering off the runway toward the control tower too? the student pilot was a complete idiot, something you both seem to have in common.
Yes and no. You shouldn’t have any less than 20 degrees of flaps when applying full power until you have established a positive rate of climb. Then from there, retract them in 10 degree increments. If fully retracted from the beginning, the plane won’t “float” as long and will drop out of the sky. That combined with the urge to pull the nose up will result in a stall. Not trying to be a know-it-all, just sharing from what I learned in private training. Hope this helps you understand a little better!
Not true. He was slow, raising flaps would have lost him a lot of lift. He was already bouncing and out of control. He needed to stay level to regain some speed then pitch for airspeed to climb for the go around. He was slow then tried to do a steep turn, which is the recipie for a stall spin.
checklist states you leave in flaps until specific speed and climb figures, flaps incresse the angle of attack of the wings leading to greater lift, pulling flaps too early can lead into a secondary stall and complicate matters further
@@MF-og1ct ever heard of lowering the nose to keep up the flying speed? Millennial!
Im honestly glad i did a bunch o traffic patterns before my solo i had a tendency to get slow on turns its nice that my instructor picked up on it and kept unsatting untill it got fixed i just had my solo yesterday and it went great
Congrats!
Congrats
What the ¿¿ is unsatting?
Yes! I had a sort of opposite issue, I was always going too fast and trying to force the plane around the pattern. Finally one day my CFI asked Tower for a short final then pulled power when we were opposite the numbers. Best landing I had made up to that point, just gliding it in. After than I learned how to manage the plane's energy.
@@thomasmleahy6218 unsatisfactory. Basically giving you an F
That student was not ready for solo. The 150 cannot climb with full flaps
If it was an older 150 w 40° flaps, yes they can't climb with 40.
@@429thunderjet2older like the 20th century with a less advanced carburettor and less capable engine of a 100 hp or however they make? Right.. Especially the more rudimentary catalytic converter.
@@louly3212 no cats on airplanes. Cessna hasn't built a 150/152 for about twentyish years now and yeah 150 was 100 hp, 152 had 110 hp I think it was. 152 was the newer version of the 150, same basic trainer type airplane though. 152 flap angle was limited to 30° instead of 40° like the 150.
I learned to fly on one of the shortest, most difficult runways in the area. It had a slope, ALWAYS had crosswind, and insane amount of thermals in the final. My instructor had me land so often until my landing was butter. Then he had me do the same with emergency engine off landings. Only then he took me for my first landing on another, bigger airstrip. I feel like most students don't get enough practise in landings.
I wasn't nervous on my first solo because I was too busy concentrating on procedures, so I didn't have time to think about it. However, I was always nervous anytime I sent a student on their first solo as an instructor. Anytime a student was soloing, I was nervous. It didn't matter if it was their first solo or their last x-country, I worried.
The flight school needs to be investigated for this one.
lol ... fuck, some people just need to stay away from aircraft, damn!
100%
Should, not need.
I went right from Pvt into Com'l training....and chose a Citabria and Mooney for complex aircraft. On my first take-off in the taildragger my WWII crusty and tough instructor barked in my ear..."LOOK at your slip indicator (ball way out of center - pegged to the right)....NOW you're going to learn what a rudder is, and how to fly"!
It served me well, esp the night I made a landing at a mountain airport (Columbia, CA), C-172 with 3 on board, - high on the approach - full flaps to try to make the landing zone, running out of runway...went to do the go-around, hit the flap switch "up" full power to climb out....trees coming up...plane barely climbing...stall horn blaring. See the electric flap switch failed and flaps are stuck down at 40 degrees.
All the slow flight training came into play as we staggered back into the air and slowly nursed it around into a right hand pattern barely 100' above the trees, hanging on a stall...made it around and got it back on the ground.
Went to dinner...came back to the plane and after multiple attempts, got the flaps to retract...flew back to the bay area and made a "no-flap" landing back at Hayward. Tough training saved the day.
In the final moments you can clearly see that the flaps were deployed. They are supposed to be retracted and plane levelled to achieve climb speed before climbing out on a go around.
Just remember....for every takeoff there is always a landing!!
Amelia Earnhart fans would beg to differ
The first time I went off on my own, I mean a solo flight from one airport to another with no instructor involved, when I took off I was like "Oh my Lord, why did I do that? Now I have to land at some point!"
@@shamancredible8632: Oh, she landed for sure....it's just that no one is really sure where yet.
Take-offs are optional. Landing is manatory.
It could be several landings....
My dad and I flew R.C. planes. He showed me with a model how airspeed and engine torque always spin to the left. Never turn left low an slow.
Memories you'll never forget
This is very clearly an instructor issue. No way that this kid should have been flying solo so soon.
Damn right!!!
i am supposed to do my solo in a week or so. i should not have watched this.
Or maybe it's good that i did. 🤔
Glad the student was ok.
good luck
On the day of your solo, Do three touch and goes or more and be comfortable before you let the instructor out.
Retract flaps before climbing on a go around.
Only retract 10°!!!
If you don all flaps during a go around attempt that will cause you to quickly sink and could cause panic.
Carb heat in
Full power
First 10° of flaps
After you get positive speed and climb then retract the next 10°
Then repeat for last 10°>@@mikeanderton4688
Going around should be your default decision, totally okay. I had two go arounds on my first landing attempt on my check ride!
I still passed, and all I was told was "good decision making". DPE is a retired airline pilot.
Don't solo if you're not ready, don't land if you're not ready.
As someone who has solo cross country etc, this person was NOT ready at all. Training slow speed stall/behaviour/recovery is critical!
FFS, start with "the pilot was okay".😮
if you’re that invested then go fucking search it up
@@bikabika253 or he could just use his fat thumb to move the slider to the end of the video
I wish that wasn't the case. They'll probably get certified in a week and be piloting Ryanair in no time.
@@shamancredible8632 wtf are you saying
Thankfully, I learned from a WW2 pilot. When slow even in a 150, P factor needs to be anticipated when opening the throttle. Trying to lift a falling wing with aileron, will increase the AOA and induce the stall. He taught me the proper use of rudder especially when low and slow. I am a true believer in basic aerobatics as any unusual flight attitude will make most pilots hesitate to take corrective action. I have flown with many PP's who are terrified of stalls and never do one after primary training. If you suck in your breath performing a stall at 3,000 feet, you have no business in the left seat.
Wow, I hope this student never gets back into an airplane for all of our safety!
same. Sometimes people will blame everything but the actual reason of the problem. Some people just aren't fit to be pilots, and we're all better off that way.
Bouncing a landing is one thing. Assuming you still have enough speed to quickly climb out and go around is another. This pilot was not ready.
This is what happens when you allow baby pilots to teach baby pilots. You should have a MINIMUM of 1000hrs of flight time before you’re allowed to teach.
IQ/EQ is more important than a 1000 hrs
Exactly. We are seeing more and more of this. Too many CFIs with insufficient experience at teaching. Just checking the boxes.
In 55 years I've flown with 10,000 hour pilots that were well beyond unsafe.
I'm not sure BFRs don't get pencil whipped.
IF he can fly a 182 around doesn't mean he can fly a 414 or ANY IFR.
Never made sense for new pilots to gain flight hours by training other new pilots. I'd feel better being trained by someone with experience.
The bird flying past, in the upper screen, at the very end was laughing, it's ass off😄!!!
Ridiculously poor instructing
I admit it’s been a while since I went through pilot training. But back then (in Canada) we were taught and practiced stalls, spins, and spiral dives. This person on their first solo probably wouldn’t have got that far in training yet but I recall practicing all those gave me a real good feel of how the plane feels just before it enters one and to avoid it. I never came close to stalling intentionally.
Shocked that pilot survived. That impact is so much worse than it appears on video.
This student just wasn't ready.
Understatement
Imagine dying on your first flight
This person should not be piloting a scooter, much less a Cessna!
I used to want to be a pilot, but it is prohibitively expensive. Maybe when I’m older, if my investments work out.
Thanks for the excellent break down video! Short, sweet, to the point, no nonsense 😍
I'm not a pilot but I think one thing that training may not cover is how you react in a stressful emergency.
I remember my I structure saying "first, fly the plane".... on ither words don't grt so distracted that you stall or get in to some other pickle while figuring out whatever the emergency is.😊
It's a solo flight...refers to the pilot as "they".
Apparently they had something like 22 hours dual. For me that would be a huge red flag. Should this person ever be sent solo?
Before I solo'ed my instructor made me do go arounds until I was comfortable with them. He always said it's one of the most important arrows in the quiver. And yes, my first landing attempt on solo was a go around. I think in general we push the cattle down the chute too quickly these days.
That CFI needs his certificate pulled.
I’ll blame the flight instructors, they are not teaching their students energy management, bounce landing, go around technique, stable approach criteria, or decision making ✈️ and the most important thing , not everyone can fly , and they’re failing to identify them ,
I cannot believe he survived. Thats incredible.
Wow crazy and a blessing he is alive. Prayers to his everyday life without pain.
I am under the impression that there is an amount of pilots out there that have gotten green lights while they shouldn't because the people around them tried to be nice to them. It's not easy to put your foot down when a guy or girl has been working SO hard to get there but they just don't have it in them. I would not want to be the one that ruins their dreams or makes life difficult for them but you have to. Not doing so can have much worse consequences. Your not helping them by giving them the benefit of the doubt all the time.
For a moment, he thought he was flying a Helo...
These pilots are replaceable but the aircraft are not.
Student pilot here, do you think he could have saved it by decreasing AOA and adding full power? It’s seems like a lot of accidents could be prevented from those 2 steps
Ryanair: You’re HIRED!
Stop me if you've heard this one...
Please stop..
That guy will never fly a plane safely.
Crashing and surviving a solo flight is quite the accomplishment.
Homie was flying that plane like a middle schooler behind the wheel of a shopping cart 🛒 💨
This one blew my mind that the pilot somehow survived. Man, if it’s not your time it’s not your time.
That pilot learned some lessons that day
Survived ?!?! ...... Wow !
Shocked that the pilot survived. Airspeed is vital. Either land the plane or get your speed back up. Stalling is the worst sin, and I don't know how a pilot is allowed to solo without understanding this completely.
And The FAA is strict about drone safety 🤦🏻♂️
You’re not supposed to bank until you’ve reached a decent altitude and speed. Banking that low at low speed was the mistake that stalled the aircraft
I don’t understand how someone so bad at flying was allowed to solo.. my instructor had me fly the plane while he sat silently for several takeoff & landings before signing off on my ability to solo. I think being able to fly without any feedback(good or bad) from another person in the cockpit is essential to judging whether you’re good enough to solo.
As a former flight instructor, and public school teacher, my assessment of the situation is that the student did not grasp the knowledge of the full use of the rudder in combination with the aileron inputs to maintain control of the aircraft in a crosswind situation. This is very common during the learning process. What I have used in the past to bring a student up to speed in this area, is to have the student fly down the runway at approximately a foot above the ground, using rudder inputs to keep the nose of the aircraft pointed in line with the centerline, literally keeping the centerline coming towards you, right between your legs, and using adequate enough aileron control to keep the aircraft from being pushed left or right away from the centerline. Easiest way to see that sight picture is to have the student line up on the left or right edge of the upwind side of the centerline, and to use enough aileron to keep it there as you use enough rudder to keep the nose of the aircraft pointed straight down the runway, again keeping the centerline coming squarely between your legs. Once a student grasps that concept, he/she now has complete lateral control of the aircraft, and will land on the centerline of the runway every time. Hope this helps someone in the teaching or learning phase of flight ✈️ 🙏.
Some of the hardest lessons learned are in accidents I’m glad the student was ok
He wasnt ready for a solo
I'm a flight instructor. This is the most bizarre flying video I've seen. I couldn't believe what was happening and, at first, thought that there had been a control system failure. It almost looks like the airshow act where a non-pilot takes off solo and flies around the airport.
Every pilot out there is screaming at their monitor while watching this. He was clearly not ready.
Wow it’s a miracle he survived that nose dive impact!😯
It's the flight instructor who didn't know what they were doing here... The blind leading the blind. Luckily this poor kid survived. (I've been a CFI for 30 yrs).
Very surprised he lived through that ,though "injuries" I am certain are stated lightly in the video. That was a brutal impact.
Never ever force a landing if you do things are going to go from bad to worse very quickly
I went to flight school at 17 years old and can say from experience that certain people just aren’t cut out to fly… and you know from the very first day . These places just want their money.
The idea of being a pilot sounds really cool, but some people just aren't cut out for it, or may need to take it slower while they develop necessary skills and attitudes.
I'm glad the student survived, and i hope he/she never pilots a plane ever again.
The actual wing stall occured after the plane started descending, not when the climbing topped out as understood from the narrator. The stall had nothing to do with descending itself. It happened that only then the AOA went abovr critical on the left wing and a rapid left rolling acceleration occured as it can be seen before impact. Never apply rudder to have the yawing motion ball go anywhere outside of the middle when flying at high AOA, unless you wanna throw the plane into a spin.
Dont give up kid. Its embarassing and discouraging... but if you lived, you're meant to fly again.
I ride motorcycles and also am licensed as a rotary pilot.
Riding/flying motorcycles/helicopters slow is much harder than controlling them at high speeds. Every ride, every flight will consist in some part of flying or riding slow.
Can't say the same for riding/flying fast.
How could any instructor allow that student to fly a solo. That is just so crazy. Not only was he a danger to himself but he also was a danger to the community he was flying over.
I'm surprised he survived tbh that looked pretty brutal
An instructors job is to judge stupid. Many people don't belong in the sky. An instructors job is not to get them in the air. It's to make them good safe pilots even if that means they flunk the class. Especially if it means they flunk the class.
Bro had no speed and figured fuckit let me climb?
He learned the one lesson every pilot should learn from the very beginning. If there is no airflow over the wings, you will stall! Also don’t make any abrupt turns!
I've seen 2 plane crashes: One was a Cessna near an airport that had just taken off.
The first when I was 14. It was a water drop plane taking off from Hollywood, Burbank. You could hear the engines faulter. You hope for the best but you knew what was coming. From my back yard I could only watch as the pilot tried to make it to the 101 which was under construction. The plane wouldn't do it so he picked out the biggest yard he could find and crashed in a yard about 1/4 mile from where I was standing. This was a brave man.
Both events were equally sickening.