chan’s room… y’all gotta calm down
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Holy cow finally someone that i can listen to and have my views reflected. i cant even process this whole stupid situation on the part of stays and also antis...
(And im a stay and chan bias)
truly! its crazy!
the whole video is all about facts 😭🙏 you've done such a great job
omg thank you so much🥹🫶🏽
so glad that there are other stays who feel the same way.
i personally don't like lives, so i barely watched any, but seeing it go away is really sad, but some stays are just not realizing that they ARE the problem.
I meannnn, how don’t people think it’s an issue not to speak back at all when greeted? I don’t think it was wrong for him to speak up about what was probably bothering him for a while. I do think the fans overdo it tho and I do feel sorry for idols with this immense hate ( no human deserves ).
THAT is the problem, thank you. this whole thing was blown out of proportion.
the worst thing is nothing he said would've been a big deal if ive was not at music bank. thats just the truth. they already had this reputation and finally ive-antis had a poster boy's words to twist. and then stays had to back chan up and make it even worse. its just really unfortunate.
As a Stay I couldn't agree more with you. Thank you for this video
thank YOU🫶🏽
Stays are the ones that ruined it for him. It's like the truck thing. They were doing too much trying to 'defend' him and started assuming who the idols were and attacked them. Their fans in turn started defending their faves. Bang Chan is not responsible for the actions of stays but idols need to realize that they need to be careful with what they say especially when talking about other people.
nah. it wasn’t just the stays. because how did the show get canceled in the first place? other k-pop stans doing the most. it was both of them. its crazy how you seem to only be putting blame towards bangchan like other non fans were the one that started this in the first place by over reacting. yall always seem to miss the point when you try and blame one group or the other. all the fans are at fault here.
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I don't disagree that other fans were also doing the most. The thing is if one side starts doing the most, the other side is also going to do the same. They were doing the same exact thing the people that were attacking their faves were doing. This wasn't the first time he talked about not being greeted but somehow this time it was a bigger issue. The fact that it could be narrowed down to certain groups made it easier for the crazy fans to find a group to attack for allegedly being rude. The stans of the groups will in turn retaliate with the same level of craziness. Both sides were wrong.
Why I might seem to be blaming Bang Chan is because I'm always thinking (for any situation) why was that something that needed to be made public when it could be solved privately. The fact that he didn't mention names is because he knew it would have been a big deal. Which is why I'm saying idols need to be careful with what they say because fans tend to blow things out of proportion. His experience and his feelings are valid but I don't think that was something that needed to be made public.
I think the show was cancelled not because what he said was wrong but because what he said resulted into all that craziness.
Artist shouldn't have to dance on eggshells saying anything and everything I believe that a lot of K-pop artists need to start taking the sza approach and just start cussing out their fans or actively making it blatantly clear that they are not wanted in the fandom by calling out specific fans accounts and dragging them
@@littlemayo7136 They really shouldn't but they need to understand that they are celebrities and fans aren't their friends so they need to be careful with what they say. some fans on the other hand need to be cussed out and dragged because of what they do and say. Idols probably want to can't do that because of their companies or how it could also be blown out of proportion and ruin their image or the groups.
girl you did not just try and tell us that the fans of the other group started assuming he was talking about their fav... yes, cause dives where sitting around watching Chan’s Room & on Stray Kids related social media pages for no reason, they didn’t find out through tags & posts mentioning the girls, including viral tiktoks made by stays where they incriminated the girls and the comment sections where full of stays agreeing, mentioning the girls or alluding to them. You MUST not be serious.
THIS!!
12 minutes of facts thank you man
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YESSSSSS YOU ATE THIS UP
thank you 🫶🏽
hope the 3 people that cursed at me when i said thier behavior embarrasses chan sees this cuz...
You spoke the absolute truth on every you said . Continue 👏👏👏
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The whole situation is so ridiculous because it wasn’t even that big of a deal what he said?? Like why are people trying so hard to defend someone who you don’t even know is the subject of the statement?? Not being able to accept criticism is such a toxic trait ugh, plus Chan’s room is such a lifeline for some people, it’s not gonna come back if people are like this, so I agree with you, why are people fighting the company that’s not going to help🤦🏾♀️ kpop stans are embarassing af sometimes
You suit hoop earrings very well💕💕
I just want to know what kind of magic the kpop industry has to make fans go crazy over their idols. Like, what does it feel like to be an idol and be capable of controlling your fans?
I’m a newborn baby stay, so actually I’m in shock that Chan is hated? ???? ??????? I was under the impression that he is loved by anyone and everyone. I’ve been happy to only hear appreciation and admiration towards him.
unfortunately he gets alot of hate
Ain't no way bang chan scolded his fans☠️ imagine trying to help your favourite artist but don't know how to help but make things worse and just to be scolded by the same artist that they wanted to help.i hope they learn their lesson and not be delusional thinking that every thing they do for their artist will help them instead just let them or their agency deal with it.
they weren’t even helping him in the first place like😭
YES! sometimes the best thing to do to help someone is to do nothing
You are completely right. I better not see anyone hating
THANK YOU!! Finally someone with brains speaking facts. As a Stay and Bang Chan biased thank you for mentioning the hatred skz and Bang Chan receive, its so wild. Everytime I go on Twitter its a war on skz 😭😭😭😭 all this hate makes me stan them even harder though. I look forward to your video about the hate Skz receive.
Another cool head in this crazy world known as Kpop. Thank you! *hug* :) I love this music, it helps to energize this old body's soul and continue to press forward in this darkening world with my own inner light. I loved Chan's room. His connection to his fans was wholesome. Yes he did open himself up but in that room he could let himself open his heart to his fans...until this happened. Did he expect this would happen? Probably not. I know I was shocked when it happened. Thankfully he had the promotions of 5 Star to keep him going forward. If it hadn't been for that I don't know what would have happened. I was really sad that it happened because for a guy who is so hardworking, and so protective of his group mates, Chan's room seemed to be a place that he could just chill in. He played music and made comments, he helped with his advice to those who just needed someone to talk to them. The atmosphere of each of his Chan's Room videos was one that made you feel you were chatting with friends around a campfire. It was nice...and then it was stolen away. In general, when you do nothing wrong and suddenly you are punished, it is hard to take. Your safe place was removed from you and so you have to deal with the shitstorm of controversy without it. As hard as it was for us, imagine how hard it was for him? I noticed in many of the behind the scene videos for promoting 5 Star, it seemed Chan was not his chatty self. At first I thought maybe the company wanted to keep his face out of the spotlight so they gave more time to the other members while Chan was seen every once in awhile in the background. I also thought too, that maybe it was Chan's self inflicting punishment. This hasn't been the first time he had to say an apology for something he said. Over time though, throughout the promotions, I saw in group interviews and I saw him smile a few times. That made me believe that his demeanor was gradually improving. I went to share a post on that page the other day and realized that I had written way too much for the word/space limit for youtube, so I cancelled trying to send it. I just hope he knows that his fans are still here even if he is not in his room. We still care if he is healthy and in good spirits.--------------------------------------------They actually sent a truck!?!? Oh my gosh....Poor BC. Indigo....do you know any solutions for this? Have you thought of any? As I tell my kids, complaining about a situation is never going to create the change you want to see...you have to find a solution to the problem. I've been working on ideas to give airports for the airport situation....but I don't even know where to begin with this kind of stuff. If you or anyone else has any ideas that might work, we could brainstorm solutions and send them to their company. Love and Light!! :)
uh it wasnt the group's stans who started it. It was other kpop stans who started assuming it was ive and dives (IVE STANS) started defending them. Alot of people mentioned that its just unprofessional to talk abt stuff like that as a kpop idol especially because of how crazy the fans are and I agree with them. Ofc he didnt mention any names but he did mention the event and there were a limited number of groups so ofc people would start speculating and hate on the group they thought he was talking abt. If he talked abt it without meantioning the event I doubt the situation would blow up that much. After all of this happened ive started getting more hate and d3ath threats and still are by strays. Theres never an instagram post of ive where strays aren't shitting on them. Its even worse because Wonyoung (an ive member) who already gets concerning hate for dumb reasons and is the most hated idol of the 4th gen rn, got even more hate because of this. I think idols should just not talk to fans abt things like that or they should just talk in general instead of giving details. I didnt finish the video but this is my opinion based on where I stopped
when i said “group stans” i was talking about the other kpop stans. the kpop stans of the group. its not unprofessional to talk about “stuff like that” how is it unprofessional to say if someone doesnt wave at you thats rude? we need to be so real with ourselves. it is basic common sense we learn when we are 5. what IS rude is not giving someone the basic common decency to wave back. the actual problem is peoples passion is misplaced. how are you that upset that at someone for saying a fact vs not being upset at your fav for being rude… does that not say something about you… and once again i literally did not know it was ive. if you or the other stans didnt say anything, this wouldn’t even be a situation. and this is not “who gets more hate” they BOTH do. you seem like you’re trying to defend ive and i’m here to tell you this is not that type of channel that defends their idols to the death for no reason. my videos are not going to be for you.
@@IndigoDetry the kpop stans of what group? I know its not unprofessional to talk about stuff like that. What was unprofessional was him mentioning the event which I said in my comment. Him mentioning the event which had a limited amount if groups led to speculations and hate. When stuff bother you then you should fix it privately instead of talking about it to fans that you don't even know and blow things out of proportion. Why do you think idols rarely talk abt bad experiences to fans? And in what way am i upset? I respectfully gave my opinion and did not hate on anyone. If you dont even know what group was attacked then you don't know much about the situation and should do research next time before talking abt certain topics . Ive stans have the right to defend their favs from stupid ass assumptionsm. Any fan would do that if their favs got hate without any proof wth. Did you really expect them to just ignore it as if ive doesn't already get unnecessary hate? 💀 Yes they both get hate but its obviously not the same amount of hate. Ive is still getting harassed over a situation they didnt even say anything about. Idc if this isnt the type of channel to do wtv. Im just sharing what I think. Also what am I defending Ive from? They didn't do anything wrong so what's your point? Both of the fandoms did too much but all of this could've been avoided if Bangchan didn't mention the event or didnt talk abt it in the first place and fixed it in private. If a normal person went online to talk abt how they dont get greeted by people then I bet no one would care as much as they did for bangchan and would say the person should move on. This just shows that kpop stans blow stuff out of proportion and that kpop idols should just keep shit like that private instead of ranting to random people who are known to be toxic and crazy
a whole truck... like do these people actually want the show back?
Everything you just said is straight up facts like yeah they sre trying to help but you all were the ones that caused it now you are all begging for it to come back It's getting worse now
I feel bad for Chan, the dude can’t even vent a little without people acting like it was a war declaration. And it especially sucks that it wasn’t even due to just antis, it was also stays doing the absolute most. That’s just one of the cons of become so popular I suppose, the bigger the fan base the bigger the problems get. Hopefully it gets better for Chan and kpop groups in general, cause you were definitely right about how kpop fans have their own unique genre of entitlement and animosity towards others. It’s crazy to see
The thing is, he should have never thought it was appropriate to vent. He should be well aware how genuinely unhinged some stays are, considering he has a big fandom.
@@Star_fish yeah no, blaming him is exactly what we’re not gonna do. It’s incredibly stupid and disingenuous to blame someone for not having perfect foresight, especially when it comes to people going off the rails over him saying something completely normal
@@419waywardkid5 I don't blame him for the actions of others and I didn't ask that Chan should have had perfect foresight. However, my point is that he has been in the industry for a long enough time to be aware that it's not appropriate for him to talk about a personal experience to fans he, whether he knows it or not, has a parosocial relationship with. It should have stayed a private matter in my personal opinion.
@@Star_fish if “he should have never thought it was appropriate to vent” isn’t blaming him I don’t know what is. Idols discuss their grievances all the time without it turning into a shit storm, only difference now is some fans thought they had proof of who it was. If you’re of the opinion that idols should just stop acting like regular people and keep themselves from doing shit as harmless as talking about lived experiences we simply have to disagree and leave it at that. Chan taking some of the fault for not accommodating fan behavior is a very redundant stance to take in this situation. If parasocial relationships is your issue talk about fan entitlement and companies profiting off the intense fan idol relationship, not idols simply talking about their lives
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unpopular opinion. is it really such a big deal that a month later he still was not over it. he thought about it and saw that there are possible scenarios where it would have made sense why they didnt greet back but he still brought it up on live even after thinking about how he could be overthinking it. are his feelings so fragile that he needed validation a month later. he talked more about not being greeted than how fun it was seeing his fans and being in paris. if the idols were ignoring him because they are just rude why did he not talk to them or get his manager to talk to them or their manager to tell them about how rude that behaviour was and he could have gotten a good explanation or an apology. idols get hate for the smallest things so him not clarifying before and choosing to bring it online seems a bit unproffesional and immature to me.
Kpop Idols are so unfortunate cuz American artists will really beat people up in public go to jail and prison and people streamed their music like ain't nothing happened they will casually say that they hate their fans and then going higher this for five years and Custer fans out
For doing exactly what K-pop Idols do on a day-to-day basis and actively tell them that they don't want them around... and people are somehow it said about this it just don't make no sense in an era where artists throw Mic's at their fans
Is he cannot vent to y'all for answer the same questions that's all keep asking like it hasn't already been answered then at this point he shouldn't even interact with the fans most Kpop Idols honestly shouldn't they should just drop their music and not do anything else they said not to fan cause y'all don't know how to act that should not have to do meet-and-greets y'all don't know how to act
Like y'all really drain this man of all his time and energy creating art for y'all and y'all can't hear him talk about how he does not like being ignored because he has feelings like a regular human being which is so hard for y'all to comprehend... Like dang if I was an artist of any caliber I would try to avoid interacting with y'all at all as much as possible
yes, bro yes I have only been seeing people say he said this thrice already why can't idols be nice to him Like he said it thrice thrice is it really that necessary oof especially when you know these idols get hate for no reason every other day. every time I see clips of him speaking about this I cringe so bad. I am not saying he should not be allowed to speak his mind Fans need to learn to be rational
I mean. The only thing we can/should do is just support his work and wish him health and happiness.
And if lucky, then chill and laugh with him, make the communication comfortable, appreciate the connection
Wtf does it have to do with bashing other ppl ??? I could never ever understand this approach in kpop fandoms. This shit happens way too often.
Wait I’m a new stay and am so clueless that stray kids and bangchan are hated!! Why???
Skz mostly hated because of their music. As for why they hate Bang Chan so much, that one still a bit of a mystery for me. But I have a theory that its because Chan doesn't put on an act of being a perfect idol 🤷♀️
@@queenharley3608people don’t like their music?
@@xxxmochibaby Well according to the haters but a lot of these haters only heard like 2-3 songs 🙄 Its really just a big hate train. Its popular to hate Stray kids, I've seen people who get hit tweets out of hating skz admit in the comments they don't care or listened to skz. Idk if you have a Twitter but being a Stay on there is not for the weak. And you probably will encounter some of the hate here on UA-cam if you watch unpopular kpop opinions or some news related to skz.
@@queenharley3608 that makes me sad :( they are all so talented, hardworking and sweet. I’m not even a Kpop fan and they are the first group I’d ever consider myself a Stan of. I hope they don’t let the hate get to them 😢