College Football, but with relegation like English Soccer
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Imagine if College Football had promotion and relegation similar to the english premier league style. Using NCAA Football 14 I simulate 10 years to see how the CFB world has changed and which teams are promoted and relegated based on playoff bowl games! Let's have some fun!
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Idea. You do the same thing but a stair step frame. Ex you have to win the Sun to have a shot at a team in the ACC and you have to win that conference to have a shot at the top dogs like the SEC. And the best two teams in the SEC play for the National Championship
Hey NTE, how did you get this version of the game? Like what mods or what is it called?
no james madison in sunbelt was a miss here but good job otherwise
Wasn’t iowa supposed to be promoted for season 9 lmao
And how did you set up the relegation games?
Once the NCAA series is released, your channel is going to have a surge. I imagine you are waiting in anticipation. I rarely comment on videos, but this channel’s continuous ideas and consistency deserve one. Excellent job, NTE.
Well said.
I appreciate your optimism but I am thoroughly convinced that the game will be complete money scumming trash and not worth playing. I hope I’m wrong obviously
@@allthingsgaming6 even if the game is ass there's gonna be a Lotta hype for it for a long time and nte gonna blow up from it I believe
Does anyone know where he got the rcu jersey
@@allthingsgaming6 doesn't matter how bad of a game they give us...the nostalgia will make the game do very well regardless and with the delays I'm hoping they're using this time to make us a great game
As a Nebraska fan, I'm just happy we never played in a single relegation game and even managed to win a natty. Take me to this universe, please!
Imagine being an undergrad at Florida State, seeing your school win it all and then get relegated two years later. Sheesh. Awesome video Drewski!
I'd love to see this concept with randomized promotion/relegation matchups instead of set conferences. A recipe for true chaos. 😂
Dude the thought behind this video is amazing. Love it 2:42
The fact that the Zips won the B1G and didn’t get a bump in prestige is robbery.
This was a fun video with a very fascinating concept. Too bad this wouldn't work out in actuality. I would love to see it though!
25:25 FINALLY WE GOT THE RECOGNITION AND RESPECT WE NEEDED!!!
Love to see ball state win my brother played for them from 2018-2022 , and was part of the first Ball state team to win a bowl game . #47.
Iowa makes it back to the Big Ten in Season 7, only to stay in the MAC afterwards?
Promotion and relegation would be a sick feature to be in a college football game.
No one is more dangerous than Vanderbilt when the money they can earn by being ground into a fine paste by Georgia every year is on the line.
14:04 it shows rice logo being relegated not Kansas State like you said the Wildcats not owls got relegated
That rocket city Jersey is sick
in season 7 Iowa won their promotion game then season 8 they were still in the mac..yet they should have been promoted...just saying
as a usa football fan and a uk football fan, its not pruh-mere its pr-eh-mere
These games when simulated always seems to hate on oregon
Wrong Arizona logo buddy. As a wildcat fan I take full offense
Can this be a series
Are all the sports being moved based on the football game? Some schools have bad football but great basketball.
What an amazing idea. The editing displayed it perfectly as well
I know
Bordeaux!
My two favorite NCAA content makers 😮
Now do your own video of it dummy
Do you know where he got the jersey from?
As a UCLA fan, seeing our QB throw 5 picks in a crucial game is the most UCLA football thing ever
Preach.
100%
Relegation really adds tension to sports in a great way
i agree but it adds some unintended consequences. ik this is on college but imo for nba/nfl worst in every division (unless last in division makes playoffs) forfeits their pick to a randomly selected division opponent
@@tubbyidk1474 Why?
For pro soccer sure, for collegiate student institutions no it’s literally retarded
@@tubbyidk1474 doesn't that keep the bad teams bad and actively prevent them from getting early draft picks to get players that would end up as stars?
Theoretically I would love to see this in CFB because I’ve become a huge Premier League fan in the past couple months. However, it would only exacerbate the NIL, recruiting, and transfer portal issues plaguing the sport now.
Prom/Rel can work in college football with a multi year system. No way a 1 bad season system would work for the reasons he listed but if the media rights were more for the conference instead of the teams it wouldn't plus I imagine that any smart conference would negotiate a deal to have them also cover G5 conference to ensure that fan base stays watching.
I think a system that covers every 4 years would work out nicely cause then your total record over those seasons would more accurate. I imagine FSU went down cause they had a senior heavy team and everyone got drafted or graduated and it would suck as a freshman coming to what you thought was a national title competing team and end up in a G5 conf. Also over 4 years you know you are bad. If you finish at the bottom 2 or 3 seasons in a row you most likely aren't competing anyways and are dragging down competition which prom/rel is designed to ensure the best play the best on a consistent basis while also being somewhat close in talent.
Well said!
It’s a good idea don’t get me wrong but it dosent make since like he uses Vanderbilt as a example but they are not good at football but they are amazing at baseball and I think basketball do good where they can’t go to one of those small conferences because they would go undefeated
easy fix, change transferring to once per athlete and ensure a cap on NIL funds similar to a cap in the NFL
@@NeverwascooL I think it would be awesome in real life and would make the game more interesting. The thing that I am unsure of is what about the other sports? Vanderbilt is an elite baseball program but are terrible at football. I can’t remember if you can be in different conferences for different sports or not. It’s something you have to think about because if Vanderbilt was stuck playing baseball in the sunbelt they would dominate. Although I believe that the baseball program would be able to stay in the SEC but I’m not 100% sure
It’s super interesting how this became similar to the English Football league system, with a lot of “yo-yo” clubs who seem to go up almost every year and down, big teams struggling as soon as they go down…super interesting and fun!
As a Wisconsin fan I can definitely say I could see them throwing a pick 6 in OT in a game like that.
Absolutely 🤣🫡
as an akron football staffer this made me so happy. great idea on this one drewskie
I think this would be a great idea because I think high stakes games just feel better no matter what
Imagine a team like wku beat Alabama or something
@@looneylog5735 I would love that.
I do this already in my current dynasty mode. I never thought of doing the "relegation game" though. I just swap out first and last place each season. It's been a blast to see teams rise and see which power 5 teams get stuck in the basement.
Nobody talking about how Iowa won their relegation game and NTE said “fuck them, you’re staying in Go5”
I remember when your channel was just starting out with best position tournaments. I love how much it's grown yet stayed in its football roots!
As a WVU fan it’s pain. Losing both national championships to the 2 teams you lost 2 national championships to in real life in the same order in nearly the same amount of time.
22:22 Wasn't Iowa promoted the season prior? Why were they in the MAC again?
Hey, you skipped Iowa. They beat Rutgers but you kept them in the MAC.
21:32 as an Aztec fan, watching them win and have the newscasters give credit to South Dakota State, is the most San Diego State thing ever.
Go Jacks!
As a Miami fan that pick six would’ve been the greatest moment in our football history. Shame it couldn’t actually happen
I have a league like this on NCAA been playing for years. Worked my way up with several teams from the Sun Belt to the SEC. SEC champ went to the sole Independent spot, kept it if they won the Natty the next year. Needed an excel document to keep track of it all. Awesome to see the idea's got legs, NTE.
Your vid’s are amazing bro. I have been watching since UGF
Got bored with my dynasties and have been using this method for awhile. It’s really interesting to see how the teams fair over time. Making the independents the bottom tier is the way to go.
He forgot to promote Iowa back to the Big Ten 😭
You know the video is immersive when as an Iowa fan I'm sitting here slightly upset after seeing Iowa win promotion over Rutgers and then noticing that they weren't actually promoted in the next season. It will never happen but I really do wish that CFB had promotion/relegation. Terrific video as always.
Yeah he messed up several times in the video but for how time consuming it had to be making this video + the entertainment value it was easy to write off and still enjoy it
@@XillsFormerly For sure
i was looking for this comment 😭
I think NTE just solved all of college football’s problems with this idea
Man a series where this was implemented would be cool sometime long down the road. A terrible team having to fight up to the next division through relegation and promotions and eventually make it to the top of the Power 5 would be really cool. Maybe sometime in the future! haha Great video Drewski!
I would love to see another 10 years of this.
Yes, or maybe somehow he does it with one of the old NCAA basketball games
As a massive MTSU fan, it brought me such great joy to see us promoted by beating our biggest rival, Western Kentucky. Made my day lol.
man, championship games/promotion battles against rivals are truly something else.
Don't know if you like soccer, but on that topic I recommend seeing the Brighton vs Crystal Palace playoff game in 2013.
Palace, away, won to advance for the playoff final for a spot in the Premier League, against their biggest rival.
This shit was dope. You ought to do one of your series with these rules in place, I would love to see your created team take the place of one of these Power 5 teams. Great work homie!
8:01 Back to the CUSA lol. Just hearing that brings back the best memories of my life going with my grandpa to Southern Miss games back when TCU, Louisville, Cimcinatti, Army, Tulane, ECU, Houston, Memphis, and UAB, back during the early days of the CUSA. Back before all the decent team left, (other than Southern Miss), and it slowly turned into what it is today. Like it broke my heart seeing what Southern Miss started slowly turning into as the Conference got worse. Like Southern Miss used to always be that small that you had to wait our for cause they were more than capable of coming to your school and beating the "Big teams", just ask FSU, Bama and especially Bear Bryant (Southern beat them on his last home game as well), and all the other big tea,s they beat a good many times back then
Though it’s the Sun Belt, I’m just glad we left that damn CUSA finally, though I wish they’d just go independent tbh.
These kinds of simulations are so much fun to watch.
I play dynasty sim leagues with 6 power conferences and 4 non-power conferences, which ends up with some strange but hilarious results (e.g FIU went from the SBC > B1G and won the conference the next year).
So glad to see these kids of videos, and I only hope that you had as much fun making it as I did watching it.
One season - Iowa gets promoted. Ten seconds later - Iowa is still in the MAC.
I did something somewhat similar in NCAA 12 or 13, but instead I grouped teams in conferences based on the school's prestige level. After every season, I would realign teams based on their new prestige level. It eventually got to a point after a few seasons where the game didn't like that and would no longer let me move teams around between conferences!
Did you completely even out the number of teams in each conference by chance?
@@XillsFormerly This was about 11 or 12 years ago, so I'm not 100% sure. I'm pretty sure there were some conferences that had the max number of teams and some that may have had less than the maximum number. The game does require conferences with divisions to have no more than a one team difference in size between those divisions. I just remember it wouldn't let me if I tried moving a team at all from any conference, regardless of size. I used to have a word document as I went along to keep track, I think I may still have the save, but the word document is probably long gone!
You never upgraded iowa after they beat Rutgers lmao 21:12
The best thing we could compare this to is Relegation playoffs in leagues like the Bundesliga. But this is an amazing concept that needs to be implemented in US sports more
I think it wouldn't work for a lot of professional U.S. sports, but college sports, it'd be kinda perfect.
@@br8745 I know it needs to be in the MLS at least
@Rahal Fan girl Two words: salary cap. MLS has a salary cap, and you can't have relegation AND a salary cap. It'd screw with all the teams payrolls, unless it was the same for all tiers, and then itd be limited by the wealth of ownership groups. As an American, it's very strange to watch European Football, where, generally, whoever has the biggest wallet wins. For example, why watch the Bundesliga when you know Bayern is just gonna win the championship again, and if it doesn't, there's only like 2, maybe 3 other competitive teams. American sports (except MLB) have salary caps, which are great because then every fan base gets a fair shot at their team winning the championship, not just the big city/big money teams. Just my two cents though.
Love seeing my Bearcats getting into the ACC after 1 season and then becoming mid table for the rest of the sim
I would definitely watch NCAA football more if they put this into play.
This would be extremely difficult and would make things way more complicated
In season 7 Iowa made it out of the mac but in season 8 they finished 3rd in the mac?
I feel like the concept of promotion already exists in college athletics
Promotion exists if your a big money school but demotion never happens. Look at Northwestern and Vandy.
It really doesn’t otherwise how do you have a team with the 6th best record in the sport who hasn’t had a losing season in 28 consecutive years not in a P5 conference?
I always did wonder if something like that could work in an American sport. Like the weakest "Power Five" or "Power Six" (whichever) would swap places with the strongest non-power FBS (1-A) and get its "Power conference" privileges instead.
I did my own version of this in NCAA 2013, except this was the last year with the WAC. So I made it a 3 tier relegation, the worst teams of the group of 5 got sent down to the WAC. Only 1 power 5 team made it to the WAC, that was Colorado, they stayed there for like 4 or 5 seasons
4:05 Georgia State’s athletic team names are the Panthers. 29:22 *proceeds to show American conference logo*
22:24 Iowa finishes 3rd in the MAC despite beating Rutgers to earn promotion the year prior.
*angry Hawkeye noises* 🤣🤣
At the start of the video what you've just described is actually closer to the Promotion/Relegation playoffs in German Football. Wherein, the two top teams of the 2.Bundesliga are promoted, the two bottom Bundesliga teams are relegated and third best and worst of each division then play each other in a Relegation/Promotion Playoff. The winner then plays in the Bundesliga the next season.
I like you included BYU however BYU is independent and was in the mountain west like 20 years ago.
Interesting experiment. If you ever feel like doing a FIFA franchise you should take a team from the bottom of the English system to win the EPL and UEFA cup. Would be at least 4 seasons maybe more but it's an action packed game
I’m a k-state fan and when you simulated a game with KU instead of us and relegated us when the chicken hawks lost I was a little upset. Good video though.
The video also forgot to promote k-state after season 6, which made k-state fan heartbroken.
The most surprising thing to me is Pittsburgh never moved down, people say we don't belong in the ACC, apparently this simulation proves we're worthy enough
Looking at the European football scene I wouldn't say rivalries are that much negatively affected by relegations and promotions. Even more, I have seen certain rivalries get their revival after the worst of the two promoted back to the same league as their rival after years of split divisions. Real rivalries don't suffer from the system. Then again: European football rivalries, especially those between clubs from different cities, pretty much all date back to centuries before the US was even an afterthought as they are just the continuation of old city rivalries and many other have deeper political and/or religious roots that are impossible to explain to Americans.
For the tv revenue part: I don't think the major football leagues in Europe really suffer from the fact spots aren't guaranteed, because the teams usually bringing in the viewers aren't the ones fighting for their spot and injury bugs aren't the reason any half decent team relegates. It's usually the promoting teams and the European variation of poverty franchises. Much like many of the colleges in your simulation the same clubs usually are the bottom dwellers in their leagues, just waiting for their turn to be punished for poor management when the coin of luck falls wrongly that season.
For the prestige and stakes for those Bowl Games: the win or go home final of the Championship promotion (to the Premier League) playoffs at Wembley in England is actually nicknamed as the match of [extra broadcasting revenue from promotion]
as someone that comes from a footballing nation (Brazil), I can say that the promotion/relegation is the norm. The weird is doing the way MLS and Liga MX does.
European (style) football comes from the idea of association. Start small and become strong. That's why there is an "A" in FIFA (association).
And when you have a big one fighting to not go down, that's when things really take an interesting and dramatic turn.
An example: here in Brazil, until 30 years ago, we only had one of our 12 most well known clubs that had been relegated.
Over the last 30 years, all but three went down at least once.
Imagine if among Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, Georgia, Texas, Oklahoma, SC, UCLA we had only one that never went down?
I think people in the US would be curious to know how and to watch a club that have 30 million + fans battling against relegation. Guess what, that club went down in 2007. There are clubs with 10-15 million fans that went down more than once.
Our defending national champion (Palmeiras, a club that has easily over 10 million fans) almost went down in the year of their centennial (2014), that would be their third relegation. In the years after, they rebounded their form to win three national championships in 10 seasons.
As a football fan, actual football, unlike with like every other american sport, I don't think this is something that even needs to be considered, if anything it makes things less fair, with Go5 conferences now considered directly inferior to P5 ones. you have 130ish FBS teams competing at the highest level for the National Championship, there are only 20 teams in the Premier League, Pro and Rel exists so that all cities and towns can have a team, essential working around expansion teams, any place can have a club representing it, they just have to earn the top spot, but these teams are historic in their own rights. Its not like how the NBA/ABA or NFL not having pro and rel has lead to countless teams folding and cities losing teams, CFB teams will always remain.
You could argue that allowing teams to get promoted from DIV II to DIV I would be cool, but this should be something down maybe every five years, promoting the best teams on average, and relegating the worse teams on average, South American leagues do something sort of like this. I don't get why stuff seems to take so long to happen in CFB, like why does it take 2-3 years for the Horns and Sooners to join the SEC and why couldn't the Dukes get a bowl game, but that's a different issue. Obviously to pro and rel the concept of transition years would need to go, you get relegated, 6 months later you are playing in that new Division.
In england rivalries persist even if there are two or more leagues between teams. Sleeping giants will rise again and overachievers will eventually falter. What truly matters is your relationship with the fans. If you have the fans with you then you will keep the finances to get back up. Rangers in scotland went bankrupt and were demoted to the bottom of scottish soccer. The fans back the team and 40k showed up for home games and away games had full stadiums every game. It took them 8 years to win promotion 4 times (if I remember it correctly) and in their second season back they won the scottish premiership (iirc). It's a roller coaster but that's what sport is about, the fans and their passion. Without them you have nothing, with them you can win anything.
If only this was possible. Man it made it way better. Imagine the hype for these smaller schools playing for a chance in the Power 5!?
Iowa ---22:07 - you forgot to bump Iowa up to B10 out of MAC at Season 8 - but that's a nitpick... and only caught because I'm a diehard Hawkeye fan 😂
You got upwards of a dozen things wrong in this video. Is this intentional as a play on words because of your name?
Feel free to, you know, edit and look over your videos every once in awhile before posting them.
In season 7 we see Iowa beat Rutgers to get promoted to the big 10 "after a few years in the mac" but then in season 8 they're still in the mac. You think we wouldn't notice?!
I would love to sitdown and set up relegation regions across the entirety of NCAA Football. From Power 5 all the way down to Division 3. Do it real proper like.
14:10 three things are guaranteed:
1. Death
2. Taxes
3. UAB and WVU meeting in a relegation bowl game
The editor missed a few mistakes. You said Akron won the big 12 at the end of the video. And when Arizona State was in the game the editor showed the Arizona Logo. Also you said Kansas St. when it was Kansas.
You shafted Iowa. They beat Rutgers, but you didn't swap them. So Rutgers lost their relegation game two years in a row. 24:20
College football in real life should be like this!!! Amazing concept!!! Amazing video!!!
Man around year 8 this fell apart a bit. Iowa won their promotion game but you didn't promote them, then they missed the cutoff to get promoted again.
How the hell did Akron even win a game, let alone get promoted and win the B10? They are awful, who built these rosters?
A little confused how Iowa beat Rutgers to rejoin the Big 10 then stayed in the MAC for the rest of the video, but otherwise great video
As a VT fan, this simulation couldn’t be more accurate
Wait wait wait in season 7 iowa beat Rutgers to move back up to the big ten but you never moved them back 😢 as a hawks fan this makes me sad drewski
You didn’t promote Iowa after they won their relocation game after season 7 into the big 10. You left them in the MAC
This is an awesome video! I kinda wish we could see the lower subdivisions as well e.g., southern ---> sun belt however i understand the limitations of NCAA 14. Hopefully we will get lucky and EA will include FCS teams and promotion/relegation in the upcoming series revival.
I'm sorry NTE but Iowa should have been back in the Big 10 after season 7 with the win over Rutgers
At the end of season 7 you said iowa beat rutgers to get back into the big ten but when you showed the records for season 8 iowa was still in the mac?
Real quick king, everyone from Louisiana calls them UL or ULL. Technically, most school have “Louisiana” somewheres in the title. They go as (U)niversiry of (L)ouisiana - (L)afayette. Keep being great and making content!
Botch, Iowa got screwed after Season 7 when it won it's promotion over Rutgers but yet was still in the MAC for Season 8.
in year 7 iowa beat rutgers and should’ve been promoted but in year 8 they remained in the mac, still good video tho
You showed Arizona's logo when talking about Arizona State's relegation after the Washington State game.
Iowa got promoted back to the big ten by beating Rutgers going into season 8 but was still in the MAC 😕
Wait, didn’t Iowa beat the Rutgers to get back into the Big10? Why we’re they in the Mac the year after?
I love this idea and I have a suggestion/idea that may be interesting. Also not sure if this is possible to do but thought I'd throw it out there.
Set it up like the actual English soccer structure.
Premier League - Big10 and SEC combined
Championship - ACC and Big12 combined
League 1 - Pac12 and AAC combined
League 2 - SBC and MAC combined
National League - Mid America and MW combined
Then the top team earns automatic promotion. The worst team automatic relegation. Then the 2nd best plays the second worst and the 3rd best plays the 3rd worst for each other's spots. Only "premier league" teams can play in the playoff.
It'd be quite complicated but cool to see if someone from the MW could make it all the way up or if a big school fell all the way down.
Again loved the video and wanted to suggest another idea!
imagine how much this changed all the other sports these schools play, like vandys baseball team would reak havoc on the sun belt baseball competition
How did you do this more practically? I am playing the new college football game 25 and I have my own relegation system (just realigning based on records), but I like the playoff game style you do, how can I do this in practice?
yea I’m wondering this too I want to have a game deciding it and not just record
Iowa got shafted in Season 7, won their relegation game and still had to be in the MAC in Season 8 lmao.
Too Drew!
Top drew, dumb puone
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Fun concept that you definitely could have stretched out over at least a few episodes. Don't burn through all your ideas right away, man! 😂
In soccer we call teams that get relegated and promoted regularly "yoyo clubs". Super interesting to see it happen here!
more like yo yo mama