I personaly know 2 people who brought that package. So what? Both have more money to spare then most of us. I dont care, i dont envy their wealth and for the game I support and I like very much, those people are very much needed. My brother is not one of those 2 whales but an early SC player and he brought 4 basepacks, for him, his wife and his 2012 born twins. seeing the game evolving faster and faster lately is awsome and he has a blast flying around in a middle size ship, doing a live family roleplay event whenever they play together. Its a joy to participate and withnessing them living thou all the ups and downs in their very own Han Solo, princess Leia and their two wookies adventure.
i started with the $45 pack durring this wipe ive gone from 20kaeuc to 1.6billion aeuc just playing the game with friends and solo i would gladly start over and earn all of it back because i had so much fun
Can't believe the existence of that $48 package has so many people butthurt. A: as said in the video, it takes $45 to play, period. B: nobody is forcing anyone to buy any high-end package, period. C: every business with a thing to sell will ALWAYS have a top-end product line of some type available. D: if the $48k package's purpose is just greed, then why are the sales of that package not zero? They offered something that some backers wanted, and those backers have bought it. Cry more about how other people spend their own damn money.
The tail end of my video says it all for me. Everyone is always worried about what someone else is spending their money on. I happen to love fancy watches, yet I do not spend thousands on one. I know what my budget is and I am not butt hurt over those who decide to spend more money than me. Thanks for the comment!
After more than 20 years of experience in gaming I can say that for myself the leveling in game is huge part of overall enjoyment of that title. Game like SC deserves to be played to the fullest rather than letting your ego ruin it for you by rushing to power.
Yep. My first Cutlass Black was one I earned up to and that was a great feeling! I only started buying more ships once my channel made money which I then have put back into either the game or better equipment.
The game is very clearly pay to win, people have decided to call it something else like for for advantage because some game these days are much more blatant about their P2W... imagine WOW or any MMO coming out with a system day 1 to be max level as soon as the game goes live for your guild to then go out and claim land/resources. Like paying irl money to lock others out of the best resources or best locations day 1... SC land claims "but the universe is so big" isn't an excuse. dictionary definition of pay to win "Noun. pay to win (uncountable) (video games) The ability and/or practice of exchanging real-world currency for an in-game benefit." ""Pay-to-win" or "P2W", is a pejorative term for a game that offers any advantage that can be obtained *FASTER* or exclusively via commercial transactions over gameplay rewards"
I own 20 ships in game, but only bought the cutter with real money. No need to spend all of that money, especially if you don't have a big crew to man those massive ships when the game comes out if it comes out lol
I like how its you can only spend it if you already spent 10.000 but its actualy does not matter as you if you are insane enough to do it. The 10.000 if you sell it all will go in to the 48.000 so you are still spending exactly the same.
Thank you for all your videos, for new player like I am that is great! I have one new player question, if I may... What are "ship insurance" like for 6 months. What happens to my bought ship after the insurance is over? Thank you very much!
the insurance system is not implimented yet, but later if the game goes in its final state it will be work for the ships to reclaim them after they get fully destroyed. like after the soft death of the ships comes the hard death explode. cig want to sell all ships only ingame one day. so the insurence make sense but i dont know how it will work finaly. hope i could help a bit with the question so far. maybe some one can explain this a bit deeper and better for you. i wish you a good flight (^.^)7
Glad yoru answer was taken care of. Join my Discord where you can ask questions around the clock because we usually have someone awake across US and EU timezones :)
Everything said by Lyzerk is correct, but I need to add that in 1.0, you will be able to buy insurance in-game with in-game money(NOT REAL MONEY). After 1.0, you log into the game, pull up your Mobiglass(i.e., email), and see an insurance bill from Stanton Insurance Company. You pay the 5,000 credits, and you're done. The bigger the ship, the bigger the insurance bill. The part of the video about buying big ships is "pay to win." I have to vehemently disagree. As the pre-build stands, you can theoretically fly a big ship solo. But that is coming to a dead stop. CIG is implementing engineering, which means you need a crew of honest people to crew all the different stations of a big ship for it to reach its true potential. If a whale buys a giant boat and tries to fly solo, they will get slapped by a smaller, fully crewed ship. I make a habit of killing bigger whale ships all the time. Sometimes, I don't even have to shoot them. Just sneak on board, hide in their bed, and wait till they fly out of the armistice zone.
I have an Xbox elite 2 controller, and wonder if it works okay in game. I really don’t do mouse and keyboard. I have used joysticks or game pads since I started gaming.
Controller can be pretty brutal. Joystick and throttle are good combined with mouse and keyboard. A program like Voice attack will help a lot, by allowing you to use voice commands
I know the controller works because I use an Xbox one for camera movements for some shots and I know too from seeing the bindings that there are a lot of options for them and as someone mentioned below they should be fine. :)
Another great effort , honest narrative. To be the devil advocate as these fresh spawns are shot down with their packages by another lighting? Odd cause the meta fighter in vacuum is light fights , that thickkey is not. My point : As Long as SKILL is the first factor , it is pay for advantage , pay for head start , pay for steering game development toward late game org events . As long as skill, 1. Basic competency 2. Social minimums 3. Fine specialities 4. Coordinated assaults . Because why own a gladius , if learning from a titan , 3k - 20 k 12 mins is crawling to that 1.1 million. Then after all the flight and fighting , they’re ready know how to take that gladius into space and never die, unless trying to score the final bullseye.
New people looking into SC, if you CAN NOT handle being killed in game for NO REASON this is not the game for you. people want to maim and kill, they do not need a reason to attack you. Griefing is only if a specific player or specific group hunts you repeatedly. PVP is not greifing at its core.
Very nice video! But when I think back to my start a little over a year ago, the most frustrating thing was the (human) pirates and griefers. But at some point you get used to the A-holes and still have fun.
Yeah I dont mind pirates and have even had some fun gameplay despite dying most of the time and the excitement I still feel when having a big load of drugs and trying to sell them at a salvage yard knowing someone could kill me at any moment gets the adrenaline pumping.
There's a couple of errors in your video but they don't really detract from the overall message that you're making, however I'll comment on a couple of things. Q3. No, in no way is it pay to win. It is and can be considered, pay to advance. The reason that distinction is important is because if you are a new player in your stater ship, going against a fully crewed Hammer Head for example, yea the new player will loose that fight, but as you say there is nothing stopping you from earning a HH yourself as the newbie. To go a step further, if you have well versed friends as a newbie, you can join the verse and jump in your friends HH within your first 10mins of booting up the game, those 10min being getting there. Knowing what to do aside the point I'm making is everything is available and not gated by some form of gated progression, like leveling. On the flip side, if you by SC with your tiny starter ship, and you also buy the HH and you go out into the verse in your HH on your own and come up against a single player in their fighter (other tiny ship). You in your new shiny HH are not going to win that fight because you need a crew for the HH. So it's really "pay to advance" than "pay to win" because ultimately, you can spemd a stupid amount of money and without crew &/or skill, its not guaranteed a win. The only other thing I will say is about the $48000 package. Simply put, when you pledge, it's simply a donation. A donation to help get the game to completion with various options available based on the amount you want to contribute and as a thanks CIG give you a ship/package. There are new options constantly available, but I think its unfair to state that new options have incentives with them. Any game breaking buff, gets ironed out on a ship and the only real 2 advantages of buying one are, it's bound to your account and if you pledge early enough, it can be cheaper than when it's released into the game. Yet when it is in game, it is STILL earnable. All my shit aside, great video.
I appreciate it. My pay to win statement is more the book definition and also includes the fact that you can be fully geared with whatever the best FPS weapon is as well, which until we get better armor or crafted armor/reputation based better gear in the game is considered by some to be pay to win just because you can literally buy the armor, go out to do missions and be the geared you can be in the game. As far as ships go I completely agree, it boils down to skill, but I also wanted to make a concession to say, yeah I can see how some people believe this can be Pay to Win, even though I do not put it in the same exact camp. Hopefully CIG sticks to this and allows us to earn better ship parts/weapons, armor etc without also allowing players to buy them with real money. Thank you for taking the time to offer up your opinion. :)
My current understanding, is that if you are Concierge you no longer need a Starter Package, as the Base and SQN42 become 'free'? (lol) I checked a while back when I became Concierge. I melted my Starter and still have game access so I believe it's still true. o7
This is true, when you hit concierge you are given a complimentary copy of the game so you can melt your game packs if you wnat and just buy standalone ships, allowing your money spent to go that bit further.
@@steak-a-potamus6231but you get S42 only for free when you were Concierge before a specific Date 1 or 2 years ago. When you become Concierge after that Date you only get Star Citizen and have to buy S42 seperately
My only problem is now, the starter ships don’t have lti and if the game goes live, what will happen to said ships? Imagine spending rl money only to get shot down, crash because of a mistake or the game. It may not matter now but down the line when the game goes live; it will matter and that’s what will get players
Somebody with access said something like 15-20 ppl have, and they all have every ship already anyway. They're just whales who want to support the project, which they're free to do.
You clearly have not really looked into Star Citizen because while sure there are expensive ships you can buy if you choose to, you only need $45 to play and the ships can be earned in game not to mention that there is NO other game like this at all.
I personaly know 2 people who brought that package. So what? Both have more money to spare then most of us. I dont care, i dont envy their wealth and for the game I support and I like very much, those people are very much needed. My brother is not one of those 2 whales but an early SC player and he brought 4 basepacks, for him, his wife and his 2012 born twins. seeing the game evolving faster and faster lately is awsome and he has a blast flying around in a middle size ship, doing a live family roleplay event whenever they play together. Its a joy to participate and withnessing them living thou all the ups and downs in their very own Han Solo, princess Leia and their two wookies adventure.
Thats awesome! I agree 100%
0:45 your video has a lot of sense and I've been looking one of that kind a lot
Than k you
i started with the $45 pack durring this wipe ive gone from 20kaeuc to 1.6billion aeuc just playing the game with friends and solo i would gladly start over and earn all of it back because i had so much fun
YOu are a beast!
An absolute fantastic explanation of the game!
Thank you !
Can't believe the existence of that $48 package has so many people butthurt.
A: as said in the video, it takes $45 to play, period.
B: nobody is forcing anyone to buy any high-end package, period.
C: every business with a thing to sell will ALWAYS have a top-end product line of some type available.
D: if the $48k package's purpose is just greed, then why are the sales of that package not zero?
They offered something that some backers wanted, and those backers have bought it. Cry more about how other people spend their own damn money.
The tail end of my video says it all for me. Everyone is always worried about what someone else is spending their money on. I happen to love fancy watches, yet I do not spend thousands on one. I know what my budget is and I am not butt hurt over those who decide to spend more money than me. Thanks for the comment!
That package was REQUESTED by top pledgers too, that's the only reason it even exists, they wanted every ship and future ships.
After more than 20 years of experience in gaming I can say that for myself the leveling in game is huge part of overall enjoyment of that title. Game like SC deserves to be played to the fullest rather than letting your ego ruin it for you by rushing to power.
Yep. My first Cutlass Black was one I earned up to and that was a great feeling! I only started buying more ships once my channel made money which I then have put back into either the game or better equipment.
The game is very clearly pay to win, people have decided to call it something else like for for advantage because some game these days are much more blatant about their P2W... imagine WOW or any MMO coming out with a system day 1 to be max level as soon as the game goes live for your guild to then go out and claim land/resources.
Like paying irl money to lock others out of the best resources or best locations day 1... SC land claims "but the universe is so big" isn't an excuse.
dictionary definition of pay to win
"Noun. pay to win (uncountable) (video games) The ability and/or practice of exchanging real-world currency for an in-game benefit."
""Pay-to-win" or "P2W", is a pejorative term for a game that offers any advantage that can be obtained *FASTER* or exclusively via commercial transactions over gameplay rewards"
My advice is to buy the Cutter starter package and have fun with it for the minimum amount of cost.
Yes, after that you can buy anything else in game ... Not bad for a AAA game.
This but. Avenger titan , and the hollow feeling of an unfinished game will not go away by buying more ships
Great advice!
Minimum system requirements? This is really really important. This alpha game is not for low end PC's!
Not at all.
I own 20 ships in game, but only bought the cutter with real money. No need to spend all of that money, especially if you don't have a big crew to man those massive ships when the game comes out if it comes out lol
Yep and I just love the New Deal guy's voice when he says "Didn't thar purchase feel good?"
Bro ya know I’ve always loved your vids, but ya killed it on this one. Great info & perspective on everything. Thank you for this one!! 🫡👏
Appreciate it. I had some things to say, apparently lol..
I like how its you can only spend it if you already spent 10.000 but its actualy does not matter as you if you are insane enough to do it. The 10.000 if you sell it all will go in to the 48.000 so you are still spending exactly the same.
Good information. Thanks..
Anytime!
Thank you for all your videos, for new player like I am that is great!
I have one new player question, if I may...
What are "ship insurance" like for 6 months. What happens to my bought ship after the insurance is over?
Thank you very much!
the insurance system is not implimented yet, but later if the game goes in its final state it will be work for the ships to reclaim them after they get fully destroyed. like after the soft death of the ships comes the hard death explode. cig want to sell all ships only ingame one day. so the insurence make sense but i dont know how it will work finaly. hope i could help a bit with the question so far. maybe some one can explain this a bit deeper and better for you. i wish you a good flight (^.^)7
@@lyzerk2033 thank you very much for taking the time to answer in such depth! Have a nice day!
Glad yoru answer was taken care of. Join my Discord where you can ask questions around the clock because we usually have someone awake across US and EU timezones :)
Everything said by Lyzerk is correct, but I need to add that in 1.0, you will be able to buy insurance in-game with in-game money(NOT REAL MONEY). After 1.0, you log into the game, pull up your Mobiglass(i.e., email), and see an insurance bill from Stanton Insurance Company. You pay the 5,000 credits, and you're done. The bigger the ship, the bigger the insurance bill.
The part of the video about buying big ships is "pay to win." I have to vehemently disagree. As the pre-build stands, you can theoretically fly a big ship solo. But that is coming to a dead stop. CIG is implementing engineering, which means you need a crew of honest people to crew all the different stations of a big ship for it to reach its true potential. If a whale buys a giant boat and tries to fly solo, they will get slapped by a smaller, fully crewed ship. I make a habit of killing bigger whale ships all the time. Sometimes, I don't even have to shoot them. Just sneak on board, hide in their bed, and wait till they fly out of the armistice zone.
@@fwdcnorac8574 that was very interesting, thank you very much for that answer. Glad that it can be paid with ingame money.
It's not the 45-60$ starter pack that is the problem but powerful PC that can run Star Citizen. This kind PC will cost like 1000-1500$
That is getting true for many games and something I mention in this video.
I have an Xbox elite 2 controller, and wonder if it works okay in game. I really don’t do mouse and keyboard. I have used joysticks or game pads since I started gaming.
Controller can be pretty brutal. Joystick and throttle are good combined with mouse and keyboard. A program like Voice attack will help a lot, by allowing you to use voice commands
Yes controllers work fine. I’ve been playing with an Xbox controller for years
I know the controller works because I use an Xbox one for camera movements for some shots and I know too from seeing the bindings that there are a lot of options for them and as someone mentioned below they should be fine. :)
Another great effort , honest narrative. To be the devil advocate as these fresh spawns are shot down with their packages by another lighting? Odd cause the meta fighter in vacuum is light fights , that thickkey is not. My point : As Long as SKILL is the first factor , it is pay for advantage , pay for head start , pay for steering game development toward late game org events . As long as skill, 1. Basic competency 2. Social minimums 3. Fine specialities 4. Coordinated assaults . Because why own a gladius , if learning from a titan , 3k - 20 k 12 mins is crawling to that 1.1 million. Then after all the flight and fighting , they’re ready know how to take that gladius into space and never die, unless trying to score the final bullseye.
2 30k's today 2 mill lost cargo runs on Microtech, I'm still playing 😁
lol, the struggle is real :)
I started playing around 3 years ago?. Spent only £25 for the game package. Nothing more.
Thank you for reinforcing my point! :)
New people looking into SC, if you CAN NOT handle being killed in game for NO REASON this is not the game for you. people want to maim and kill, they do not need a reason to attack you. Griefing is only if a specific player or specific group hunts you repeatedly. PVP is not greifing at its core.
AND, if you go to where the pirates are they will kill you over and over again.... that is also not grieifng if you go there intentionally.
Very nice video!
But when I think back to my start a little over a year ago, the most frustrating thing was the (human) pirates and griefers. But at some point you get used to the A-holes and still have fun.
Yeah I dont mind pirates and have even had some fun gameplay despite dying most of the time and the excitement I still feel when having a big load of drugs and trying to sell them at a salvage yard knowing someone could kill me at any moment gets the adrenaline pumping.
There's a couple of errors in your video but they don't really detract from the overall message that you're making, however I'll comment on a couple of things.
Q3. No, in no way is it pay to win. It is and can be considered, pay to advance. The reason that distinction is important is because if you are a new player in your stater ship, going against a fully crewed Hammer Head for example, yea the new player will loose that fight, but as you say there is nothing stopping you from earning a HH yourself as the newbie.
To go a step further, if you have well versed friends as a newbie, you can join the verse and jump in your friends HH within your first 10mins of booting up the game, those 10min being getting there. Knowing what to do aside the point I'm making is everything is available and not gated by some form of gated progression, like leveling.
On the flip side, if you by SC with your tiny starter ship, and you also buy the HH and you go out into the verse in your HH on your own and come up against a single player in their fighter (other tiny ship). You in your new shiny HH are not going to win that fight because you need a crew for the HH.
So it's really "pay to advance" than "pay to win" because ultimately, you can spemd a stupid amount of money and without crew &/or skill, its not guaranteed a win.
The only other thing I will say is about the $48000 package. Simply put, when you pledge, it's simply a donation. A donation to help get the game to completion with various options available based on the amount you want to contribute and as a thanks CIG give you a ship/package. There are new options constantly available, but I think its unfair to state that new options have incentives with them. Any game breaking buff, gets ironed out on a ship and the only real 2 advantages of buying one are, it's bound to your account and if you pledge early enough, it can be cheaper than when it's released into the game.
Yet when it is in game, it is STILL earnable.
All my shit aside, great video.
I appreciate it. My pay to win statement is more the book definition and also includes the fact that you can be fully geared with whatever the best FPS weapon is as well, which until we get better armor or crafted armor/reputation based better gear in the game is considered by some to be pay to win just because you can literally buy the armor, go out to do missions and be the geared you can be in the game. As far as ships go I completely agree, it boils down to skill, but I also wanted to make a concession to say, yeah I can see how some people believe this can be Pay to Win, even though I do not put it in the same exact camp. Hopefully CIG sticks to this and allows us to earn better ship parts/weapons, armor etc without also allowing players to buy them with real money. Thank you for taking the time to offer up your opinion. :)
My current understanding, is that if you are Concierge you no longer need a Starter Package, as the Base and SQN42 become 'free'? (lol) I checked a while back when I became Concierge. I melted my Starter and still have game access so I believe it's still true. o7
lol you know what, I honestly did not know that, but good to know and thanks lol.
This is true, when you hit concierge you are given a complimentary copy of the game so you can melt your game packs if you wnat and just buy standalone ships, allowing your money spent to go that bit further.
@@steak-a-potamus6231but you get S42 only for free when you were Concierge before a specific Date 1 or 2 years ago.
When you become Concierge after that Date you only get Star Citizen and have to buy S42 seperately
My only problem is now, the starter ships don’t have lti and if the game goes live, what will happen to said ships? Imagine spending rl money only to get shot down, crash because of a mistake or the game. It may not matter now but down the line when the game goes live; it will matter and that’s what will get players
You'll never lose your ship you pay real money for. It will just take longer to call it out or will cost more in-game money to do so.
First 😁
:D
I promise you people maybe not many but some bought the $48k package 😂
Somebody with access said something like 15-20 ppl have, and they all have every ship already anyway. They're just whales who want to support the project, which they're free to do.
I think 34 people have bought the legatus package.
new players can always become backers and buy a single good ship every year
Yeah. I would put in like $10-$20 every month or 2 to upgrade to a ship because I saw that as what I would spend in a game I played monthly anyway.
preparing for the future because we be Pioneeers n sheeet.
cant fucking wait for january to end. jesus
I wish I could find a gamer girl for myself. I'm and older guy so its not going to be all that easy.
Id say this game is just a cash grab is is more expensive than any other game that has these same mechanics
You clearly have not really looked into Star Citizen because while sure there are expensive ships you can buy if you choose to, you only need $45 to play and the ships can be earned in game not to mention that there is NO other game like this at all.
SC is disappointing it's poorly made and poorly designed the dev's absolutely have no concept of how things should work.
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Bro ya know I’ve always loved your vids, but ya killed it on this one. Great info & perspective on everything. Thank you for this one!! 🫡👏