Slime flux/wetwood infections are really interesting. Some of them will go through 2 and even 3 stages of infection, as the bacterial environment changes. Generally, they start with a tree injury, or sometimes a soil infarction. The primary infection is often due to a bacteria that feeds on the sap in the live tree, and they can express many different compounds and gases as they digest the sap. Sometimes it causes pressure in the tree, and the resulting flow outside the tree is called slime flux (other bacteria infect the expelled sap as it leaves the tree, and make it slimy and smellier.) The expanding gas causes lignin fracture and tyloses proliferate, esp in a species that already has them, such as white oak. Often, a secondary bacterial infection will invade through these flaws, and acetobacter is a common infection (expressing acetic acid--vinegar). The secondary bacterial infections feed on cellulosic wood fiber, rather than sap...and because it's eating the wood and turning it into waste (rot), it weakens the wood significantly. Once these secondary infections are present, the damage will continue to occur even after the timber is harvested and sap no longer flows. The lack of food from the primary infection stresses the existing bacteria, and they will try to eat other things. As long as they can travel through fractures or tyloses, they can continue to spread, but I've never heard of it jumping to timber from another tree after being cut. Good catch, Leo! Glad you kept it out of the beam structure!
The offset is to allow space for the parrot deck. Many of you may not know, but the parrot deck is the place that the captain bird of the boat sits and lords over the rest of the crew. It has to be near midline, but allow enough room for certain shears and gaffs (and other nautical terms I don't have time to explain) to reside. Consider this to be the final word on the subject. I may be drinking, however, so feel free to add your comment.
Hi there Leo. It's great to see Tally Ho coming back to life. I'd love to be able to support this project financially but at present it is impossible. I do have an answer to the rot problem though. timber is made up of two very important parts. Lignin (the building blocks but very brittle and darker in colour) and cellulose ( The elasticity fibres. Very strong but doesn't have the rigidity of the lignin and generally pale in colour). Together absolutely amazing. This is why trees can sway in the wind and still stand up. In your example the tree has suffered from a disease that has eaten the cellulose. leaving the area of the tree darker in colour and without the elasticity and therefore brittle. If it had been a disease that had eaten the lignin, the tree area would have bean paler and very sponge like. Obviously different woods are effected in different ways but this is a general explanation. I hope this helps. All the best. Nick From Eastbourne England.
Perhaps that disease is what brought the tree down originally, and landed it in the wood yard. Makes sense...a lot of the large timber would have come from storm damage and the like, where a bit of disease would have made the difference between “down” and “still standing”.
Hey Leo, I'm an Arborist, and I can't be certain, but I believe that the defect in your oak is Brown Rot, sometimes known as Dry Rot. I'm a wood worker as well and I've seen this in seasoned lumber as well as trees that I've worked on. Based on the brief view of the tool handle that broke, the degradation of strength along the major axis is consistent with Brown Rot. It tends to break the wood up into rectangular chunks. The discoloration is also consistent. Brown Rot is often the result of a large wound in the tree. The fungus can easily travel downhill through the cellulose. It is more common in softwoods and fruit trees; infamous for its devastation to cherry trees, so I would be surprised to see it in White Oak, but not out of the question. Brown Rot selectively breaks down cellulose, leaving behind lignin. Typically fungi are responsible for breaking down cellulose, as well as lignin, so I would be surprised if it was bacterial, but I could be wrong. I'm sure there is someone out there who knows something that I don't. Here's a quick read on some common tree fungi with simple explanations and pictures: forestpathology.cfans.umn.edu/microbes.htm
Dry rot is also a significant cause of heartbreak and woe in the wooden boat community and a major contributor to why freshwater is viewed as so much greater a threat than saltwater.
Pete cracks me up. He's a great addition to the project and channel. You can tell he doesn't like being on camera and to make it worse you make him explain what he's doing. Leo, you obviously have fun making him uncomfortable with the camera. You guys seem to have a really good time and get along well. Patrick is fun to watch because he's more comfortable with the camera and obviously loves being there. Love the channel. Love Cecca. Keep it up. Can't wait to see you splash Tally Ho
It’s remarkable to see the difference in how much Leo is able to relax in this video and just enjoy the pleasure of doing the work. Adding the extra shipwright clearly lifts the burden of doing all the thinking and worry. Not that he hasn’t handled every step of the way in stride up till now-but it was clear to me that he was relaxed and immersed in the craft. So glad to see you could get some additional help.
I agree. A big weight off his shoulders. Also, my opinion is that Leo is someone who doesn’t suffer fools gladly and prefers to work by himself. Pete is someone who knows his business and gets on with the job, so compliments Leo’s attitude well.
When you sanded that old hatch.. I was smiling from ear to ear when I saw how good the wood looked underneath. Wood that has sailed who knows how many thousands of miles over a hundred years.
...and television. I told it to several people and most of them got drawn in and keep watching for more than a year now. And we are in a land locked country. :)
I watch you young men using your hands and knees to drive beams in place instead of using a mallet. I remember using my hands in the same manner as a younger man not giving it a second thought. As you reach your early 50s you'll wish you would have taken that extra bit of time to pick up the mallet instead of using your hands as a mallet. The wear and tear on your hands and wrists just isn't worth it as you will lose strength and it gets to be painful doing the simplest of tasks that was once taken for granted. You are a true craftsman taking on a monumental task. Please use a mallet.....you'll thank me later in life. Dennis.
I have a friend who ran heavy equipment for over 30 years. He did a lot of jumping off of backhoes, bulldozers, dump trucks etc. Today in his sixties his knees are bone on bone, he needs double knee replacement, can only walk about a hundred feet, can't ride a bike, and is in agony all day long. YOU DO PAY A PRICE ! ! ! I Myself do a lot of work with my hands, including carpentry, and spent years pounding on things with the side of my fist, like in the vid, my hands especially little fingers, which took the brunt of all the pounding has terrible arthritis.
I reprimand my girlfriend for kneeling on the bare floor for the same reason. Just because she can doesn't mean she should. Use a matt at least, if not knee pads.
Good comment. It's so easy to hit the end of a chisel with the palm and it appears to be insignificant at the time but it will eventually lead to real pain. Use a mallet...maybe not as big as the one Leo used to whack in the deck beams but anything other than cartilage. Once you bust it you are in for a painful time
Very good advice, I thought the same thing when I watched the video. I did auto repairs in Southern Cal, it's flat rate and it's fast work, but, I can't abuse my hands any longer, it's debilitating. I am 60, and this started when I was 40, so, I now own a mallet, and I use it all the time. Never hammer with your hands, it will come back to bite you, and these days pain meds are really hard to get.
Here's an idea.. What about combining, glueing together small rectangles of the old Tally Ho timber, and rectangles of the new timber you cannot use into a key fob, or such.. Hot branding the name Tally Ho for authenticity...This, to Raise monies for the rigging, and a keep sake memento of us ...
Leo you Could easily cnc carve "TALLY HO" plaques and number them as a limited run to increase the value, best part is it will allow you to use up the "Authentic Tally Ho " lumber scraps and make them available to your subscribers, who would all probably love to own a piece of the oak,that the ship was made from. This would also allow you to fund raise for the project too.
Can’t stress enough the amazing production quality of these vids. Would be a successful series for a channel willing to take a risk on an independent boat builder.
You only think these videos are good because they are free of the ever present drama shown on "reality" television nowadays. As soon as someone else got involved in the production of the film side of the project, the videos would become such a different beast that the people who have supported Leo this far along would lose interest.
Cheapest way to get bronze is from 1947-1962 US pennies. $0.0184856 metal value for $0.01 each. Literally 50-cents on the dollar (54.1 cents/$). Probably not legal, but I am neither a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.
@@jeffbecker8716 Probably legal. Apparently "defacing money" in US law means something like using legal coins to make counterfeit coins, like (theoretically) overstriking the face value. It's fraud, basically. Otherwise melting down your spare change or using it to tile your bathroom floor as was a thing a while back, well, that's just using your own property as you see fit.
Leo, been doing accurate restoration of historic homes for 25 years. Intead of sanding try soy-bean stripper..I am stripping about 3 rooms of fir of 7 layers of paint. Soy strip is the ticket. Easy on the hands, hell I don't even wear gloves vs old citrus strippers. Neutralizes with water, and best thing is it doesn't dry wood out like citrus stippers. Apply a heavy coat, cover with plastic, wait 24 hours, remove carefully with a putty knife. Apply a second coat. Great with old lead based/oil paints. Eliminate the sander except at the finish point. Anyway, put Blue Bear 600 GL soygel on your wish list-I'll buy you a 2 gallon pale. (I am not a dealer, just a old boat builder from a zillion years ago, and now on old house project #1000 plus). Just love your project.
I love that you pulled the beam and took the debit on the money and the time spent on that beam, rather than taking a risk of putting unsound Wood in the boat. To me that’s what real craftsmanship is all about: skill and patience and attention to detail combined with integrity.
My guess is the offset is to clear the Samson Post The boat is looking fantastic and the quality of the work and materials used is first class! I am looking forward to seeing the floors being cast...I have never got on with wood and marvel at some peoples affinity with it, so watching Leo and the guys doing such a lovely job on Tally Ho just makes my jaw drop! Loving the quality videos and professional editing, keep up the good work guys. Cecca...you should do a video on the jewellery making, I have just started making my first pieces during this madness.
You should get an initial cast bronze frame done before making any more patterns to get a good percentage of shrinkage to figure into the other patterns. It should probably be around 3% or so. You could probably add a shim layer to the outsides of a pattern you pull straight off the ship, but it might need to be split and widened on the bottom.
Even Paddy is making a tremendous contribution with limited boat building skills. Sanding is a laborious and time consuming process. Look at how well that teak turned out!
Having recently come across episode 71 of Leo's journey on restoring Tally Ho, I just spent the weekend binge watching every single other episode and here I am again. Magnificent effort to everyone involved and looking forward to progressing on this journey with you all.
you got off easy,I found episode 100 i think,been binge watching for a week!!! LOL! HAVE a boat restoration project on my hands came looking for info and ended up with a PHD.lol love this crew hope to see TALLY HO sail into my home port soon,worth the wait!!
as soon as the paint was removed from the teak butterfly hatch and you get a good look at the surviving gain you get this big smile on your face. At least I did. That will look fantastic once it's repaired, finished and installed.
To me the other big difference is that Leo is a sailor. Most people who build boats in the glare of publicity (even before the days of the www) have been, in my experience, aspiring sailors ... and sadly, having spent a chunk of their life making their dream boat, when they finally hit the water, many find that sailing does not match the dream. Even if it does, they have generally made decisions in the build which a more experienced person (which they later become) would not have made.
I would think that welded plates and bars are much stronger than cast shapes. We had cast aluminum handrail infills break in two when the castings were being pulled out of the crate. There were air bubbles in the castings causing weak spots.
I would like to see a blooper reel with all the mistakes, injuries, arguments, etc. when this is all done. You do such a careful, good job that people may think this is easy....
Hi Leo. I have loved watching all these videos, right from the start. I think there could be two or three reasons for offsetting the hatch. First, and most likely, is the space required to accommodate the bowsprit; second, to allow a decent size of locker below for sail storage or similar, and third, to allow space on both sides of the hatch when a headsail is bent to the rail, using tip a large area of foredeck. Nowhere should there be trip hazards or other poor places for feet. Falling onto the deck or worse is not a source of amusement at any level. This displacement from the centre line wa carefully thought out, and is only to be admired as a 110 year old bit of thinking on the part of Mr Strange.
I love how the deck is looking and coming together from this video! The first video of this series I watched was of Leo showing how he sharpens his tools (made about August 2022). Went back to episode 1 and have been hooked since.
I love the way you edit the sped up segments, with the audio running normal, but still edited to match the video somewhat. It's one of the best ways i've seen timelapses done, especially for a construction project like this. :)
The fact that he cut that carlin knowing the knots would be removed in the joint, therefore utilising an otherwise good piece of timber, indicates the level of depth of thinking required to build such a boat. Amazing.
At that same timestamp (around 19:10) the shipwright gets thrown a pair of wedges when he's standing on a pair of "2 x 10"s. See, the problem is terminology. Most places call them "10 x 2"s, even in the old money , or "250x50" since about fifty years ago. It sounds much more stable. ;-
I build furniture as a hobby and I find myself thinking like that because I just hate wasting wood (or rather buying more wood than I need to) if I can figure out how to make a piece of wood work for me.
Just binged through all episodes. You are a truly inspiring dude Leo. I hope your group stay safe, and great job so far! Going to be hard waiting for new episodes. 😭
Leo in my youth apprenticing as a cabinetmaker I worked several winters when work was slow for a boat shop in the Muskoka lake district north of Toronto helping to restore mahogany runabouts. On one project we were steaming in 5/4 ribs into a runabout bow, did 6 ribs port and starboard left them clamped up and went home for the day. When we came in the next morning all 12 of the frames had broken during the night into 6" pieces from the pressure as they cooled. The explanation and the discussion that followed was that the log had layed in water in the swamp until spring when the log through its nature started to draw up sap, but was drawing swamp water up instead with all the impurities and with no root system to filter. The the other explanation came from my father, was that the oak had been wet after sawing and had suffered a hard freeze breaking the cells removing its longitudinal strength. All the best Brian
I came here doing more research on wooden sailing ships, building them and repairing them so as to be more authentic and realistic in a roleplaying game. A week later I've binged all 71 episodes and ended up subscribed to another engrossing channel on my expanding list of builder and maker channels. Thanks for the high quality entertainment and education you are providing Leo.
If completion is ALWAYS 2 more years away, no matter which of Leo's superb videos we happen to be watching at the time, all I can say is EXCELLENT! So we should all still be watching in 2024! 2025? 2026? After all, once the boat is completed there is all the rigging, masts, sails, kit, trials, tests, repairs, sailing on the US West coast, sailing her home to the UK... and beyond... ;-)
@@gilbertfranklin1537 actually, therr arr commercially available "circular saws" available with 10", 12", and 14" blades for "beam" cutting. Check your local supply house for orderability, or search online tool suppliers. Search: Sawsquatch, beam saw, etc...
5:32 --- Oh my goodness!! So excited that something from the original vessel can live on, and in such a beautimous way! Happy to have the Francesca sighting, the hound cameos are always welcome, and good thoughts for Pete's boo-boo healing process.
Another great episode, I'm sure that many tutors will recommend them as educational videos for their students. She's coming together now and looks truly awesome, thanks for sharing.
Same. But here I am after a full week of binging every single episode since ep 1. Highly, highly recommend starting this one from the beginning. Absurdly gratifying journey.
Leo, You are correct with the rot. I realize that you have white oak but Standing dead Red oak in New England wicks moisture quickly and when it is cut up for firewood. We call it “Piss oak” with a strong smell of vinegar/ ammonia. I just want to say that just watching your work is therapy. Wonderful music too. Beautiful job !!!!! Thank you
Even though I restore cars, the satisfaction of seeing the object of your work take on the original shape and start looking like what it is supposed to be is a very gratifying feeling. Good job mate....Looking forward to the final end product....Keep up the good work.
I am amazed at just how relaxing it is just watching true craftsmen working with high quality woods. I used to be a Royal Naval sailor, and love boats. I am impressed and looking forwards to seeing her sail again.
That is so funny - I saw the knots in the replaced carlin and thought Leo replaced a failure with a problem - NOPE - @19:42 the dovetail notch will fall right where the knots are and be cut out of the beam altogether - that is a master shipwright at work!
Amazing progress. I'm always impressed with the sharpness of your chisels, planes etc. I would love to see your sharpening technique and the equipment you use please.
I can't be the only to notice how much joy it is to see you in good spirits. I have been watching from day one and am amazed by the progress. You are killing it can't wait to see the maiden voyage. From land locked Texas, saludos.
@@SampsonBoatCo it's been such a pleasure to witness the progress. Also, if Cecca is selling her jewelry, I would totally buy some. PS, I am a former math professor and curent middle school math teacher, and I love seeing the math involved. I may show a snippet to my Geometry students.
Leo you continue to blow my mind with your sound editing. Makes me want to dance while your excellent team carves wood . You make it look so artistic✏📐👌 Awesome work guys⚓⛵🎥😇🗽
To see the first real steps towards putting an original piece of the boat back in actually got me really excited! I hope you find plenty more pieces that have survived decades of mistreatment relatively unscathed
Yep, I pounded a chisel with the palm of my hand for a long time and now I have problems gripping things for a long time. Hand goes numb and whatever I'm holding drops or goes flying.
Bargle5 I’m in the same boat. Can’t hold things well, and drop items with out even knowing they are slipping. Silverware is hard to use too. Younger guys please hear our words as guidance for a better future for yourself.
Worked with Steelcase modular office furniture and we used our hands to hit the bottom of the upper steel file cabinets to release them from the panels. Retired now with constant pain in the base of the thumb. So to echo Jake's reply try not to use your hand as a hammer. PS: the newer modular systems are redesigned.
Thank you so much for this glimpse into what life a hundred years ago must have been like . Some guys , farm life , pets , a pretty face , smiles and craftsmanship that was appreciated . Well done !
My guess on the deck opening offset is that it is due to the positioning of the bowsprit (which seems to ride on one side of the stem in cutters) and anchor chain windlass. Is the opening for the chain or access to the sail locker? Bril vids as always - Pancho steals the limelight every time
Just wondering at 21:35 the aft hatch appears out of square with the others or does that have to with the taper of the stern. Certified Florida Homebuilder since 1990 and your build quality as good as it comes! Makes plastic boats look insanely cheap and flimsy. Can't wait for the interior build out. Pete's the shit, don't let him go anywhere, take him cruising with you, get him a Brazilian girl, teach him how to surf!
I do quite a bit of framing with tropical hardwoods at my home in Thailand. On one project I was cutting a cantilevered rafter for the roof structure when the 2x5 accidentally fell to the cement floor from the horses. This very heavy and lovely rafter just shattered in a clean break with no evidence of wood fibers. Never have seen this before. It looked just like your hammer handle. The lumber appears strong but a sharp impact fractures it like glass. I now test all my lumber. The tropical hardwoods are generally very resistant to decay but many times are left fallen in the jungle for a long time before being milled. I envy your precision cutting and fitting.
Aww man, something about the music in this episode and seeing everything come together, with a great team formed made me really appreciate you putting this content out, but at the same time left me with a sense of sadness that I am not able to join in. Keep on living the dream!
For the dark vinager smelling wood: I don't know much about wood infections but I do know what causes vinegar smells. I'd say that you have a yeast like bacteria in the wood which is eating any remaining sap or starch/sugars in the wood. This in turn produces alcohol like ethanol or methanol which when reacting with oxygen (when exposed to air) causes it to turn to vinager. Personally I don't think this could pass to other wood or eat up entire planks and would just be localised to regions within the wood with abnormal amounts of sap Tldr: the woods probably got a bacterial infection, shouldn't worry about it infecting other wood. - I am by no means an expert in any of these subjects I just know enough to have a theory.
Just to add to the bacterial wetwood discussion. The progress of the bacteria through an infected tree consumes oxygen. The anaerobic process of fermentation is revealed in a sour vinegar smell. In most cases tree professionals can spot it before it ends up at the mill but can be at times hidden. Not really much can be done other than segregate infected bits and use them to show your awesome taekwondo power stroke 🥋
5:20 made me so happy, to see the old teak looking good! Definitely keep bits like these, patched up, they will tell of the history the boat! EDIT: Regarding the foremost hatch, i was thinking it's because of the bowspirit, but from the pitcures it seems the bowspirit is also offset to starboard. Perhaps to clear the capstain? Or because of the interior in the forepeak?
Slime flux/wetwood infections are really interesting. Some of them will go through 2 and even 3 stages of infection, as the bacterial environment changes. Generally, they start with a tree injury, or sometimes a soil infarction. The primary infection is often due to a bacteria that feeds on the sap in the live tree, and they can express many different compounds and gases as they digest the sap. Sometimes it causes pressure in the tree, and the resulting flow outside the tree is called slime flux (other bacteria infect the expelled sap as it leaves the tree, and make it slimy and smellier.) The expanding gas causes lignin fracture and tyloses proliferate, esp in a species that already has them, such as white oak. Often, a secondary bacterial infection will invade through these flaws, and acetobacter is a common infection (expressing acetic acid--vinegar). The secondary bacterial infections feed on cellulosic wood fiber, rather than sap...and because it's eating the wood and turning it into waste (rot), it weakens the wood significantly. Once these secondary infections are present, the damage will continue to occur even after the timber is harvested and sap no longer flows. The lack of food from the primary infection stresses the existing bacteria, and they will try to eat other things. As long as they can travel through fractures or tyloses, they can continue to spread, but I've never heard of it jumping to timber from another tree after being cut.
Good catch, Leo! Glad you kept it out of the beam structure!
Well said, you sound like a student of Alex Shigo, or Richard W. Harris, Two of the most prominent US tree scientists.
The offset is to allow space for the parrot deck. Many of you may not know, but the parrot deck is the place that the captain bird of the boat sits and lords over the rest of the crew. It has to be near midline, but allow enough room for certain shears and gaffs (and other nautical terms I don't have time to explain) to reside. Consider this to be the final word on the subject. I may be drinking, however, so feel free to add your comment.
The best part of Pete, besides his skill, is him struggling to not swear like a sailor while on camera.
Hi there Leo. It's great to see Tally Ho coming back to life. I'd love to be able to support this project financially but at present it is impossible. I do have an answer to the rot problem though. timber is made up of two very important parts. Lignin (the building blocks but very brittle and darker in colour) and cellulose ( The elasticity fibres. Very strong but doesn't have the rigidity of the lignin and generally pale in colour). Together absolutely amazing. This is why trees can sway in the wind and still stand up. In your example the tree has suffered from a disease that has eaten the cellulose. leaving the area of the tree darker in colour and without the elasticity and therefore brittle. If it had been a disease that had eaten the lignin, the tree area would have bean paler and very sponge like. Obviously different woods are effected in different ways but this is a general explanation. I hope this helps.
All the best.
Nick From Eastbourne England.
Where's the rest of the bloody videos
Brilliant. So tree wood is one of Nature's composite materials? Awesome explanation.
A.
Perhaps that disease is what brought the tree down originally, and landed it in the wood yard. Makes sense...a lot of the large timber would have come from storm damage and the like, where a bit of disease would have made the difference between “down” and “still standing”.
Had I seen this video 30 years ago, I would have become a shipbuilder. Thank you Leo for showing your art to us.
Hey Leo, I'm an Arborist, and I can't be certain, but I believe that the defect in your oak is Brown Rot, sometimes known as Dry Rot. I'm a wood worker as well and I've seen this in seasoned lumber as well as trees that I've worked on. Based on the brief view of the tool handle that broke, the degradation of strength along the major axis is consistent with Brown Rot. It tends to break the wood up into rectangular chunks. The discoloration is also consistent. Brown Rot is often the result of a large wound in the tree. The fungus can easily travel downhill through the cellulose. It is more common in softwoods and fruit trees; infamous for its devastation to cherry trees, so I would be surprised to see it in White Oak, but not out of the question. Brown Rot selectively breaks down cellulose, leaving behind lignin. Typically fungi are responsible for breaking down cellulose, as well as lignin, so I would be surprised if it was bacterial, but I could be wrong. I'm sure there is someone out there who knows something that I don't.
Here's a quick read on some common tree fungi with simple explanations and pictures: forestpathology.cfans.umn.edu/microbes.htm
Dry rot is also a significant cause of heartbreak and woe in the wooden boat community and a major contributor to why freshwater is viewed as so much greater a threat than saltwater.
Pete cracks me up. He's a great addition to the project and channel. You can tell he doesn't like being on camera and to make it worse you make him explain what he's doing. Leo, you obviously have fun making him uncomfortable with the camera. You guys seem to have a really good time and get along well. Patrick is fun to watch because he's more comfortable with the camera and obviously loves being there. Love the channel. Love Cecca. Keep it up. Can't wait to see you splash Tally Ho
It’s remarkable to see the difference in how much Leo is able to relax in this video and just enjoy the pleasure of doing the work. Adding the extra shipwright clearly lifts the burden of doing all the thinking and worry. Not that he hasn’t handled every step of the way in stride up till now-but it was clear to me that he was relaxed and immersed in the craft. So glad to see you could get some additional help.
I agree. A big weight off his shoulders. Also, my opinion is that Leo is someone who doesn’t suffer fools gladly and prefers to work by himself. Pete is someone who knows his business and gets on with the job, so compliments Leo’s attitude well.
Do I need to bring you more timber? If so I'm ready! lol!!
woohoo! Not yet, but I'll let you know ;) Cheers bud
You know Chris Moneymaker? :)
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Your a top fella Mr Pink Fireman!
The world needs more of your kind, Mr. Pink Firefighter.
When you sanded that old hatch.. I was smiling from ear to ear when I saw how good the wood looked underneath. Wood that has sailed who knows how many thousands of miles over a hundred years.
Indeed. It was remarkable. But it shows the beauty of wood.
I cannot figure out why this channel does not have way more subscribers. Content of this quality is hard to come by on UA-cam.
Biesel3 If a majority of people were looking for quality, many things would be different in this world.
True
Found it too late. Been too busy outside, or sketching new ideas inside.
...and television.
I told it to several people and most of them got drawn in and keep watching for more than a year now. And we are in a land locked country. :)
I just got this far and can tell you that yesterday 5/29/22 there were 403k subs. Today there are 404k so this number is still growing.
I need slow-mo, close-up, tight & clean wood joinery sliding into place. Nothing is more satisfying to a woodworker...
Wood porn!
not just for a woodworker, also for woodworker-wannabes, I can tell you ...
That's what I was going to say.
I love this series so much. I've been watching since EP1 and haven't missed one yet. Leo is a very great video maker.
And Boatbuilder ! ;-)
@@SD_Alias Oh, yes, that too. ^_^
Me too, it's taking a while, but now you can really see it all come together.
@@SD_Alias and sailor!
Absolutely. And yea I want to say he is the youngest sailor to cross the Atlantjc solo. Correct me if I'm wrong but I do believe he was.
Thanks Leo, for putting so much more of Cecca in the video, She is absolutely adorable! Tally Ho is looking nice too : )
I watch you young men using your hands and knees to drive beams in place instead of using a mallet. I remember using my hands in the same manner as a younger man not giving it a second thought. As you reach your early 50s you'll wish you would have taken that extra bit of time to pick up the mallet instead of using your hands as a mallet. The wear and tear on your hands and wrists just isn't worth it as you will lose strength and it gets to be painful doing the simplest of tasks that was once taken for granted. You are a true craftsman taking on a monumental task. Please use a mallet.....you'll thank me later in life.
Dennis.
I’m young and I tend to be lazy but thanks for some experience will watch out
I have a friend who ran heavy equipment for over 30 years. He did a lot of jumping off of backhoes, bulldozers, dump trucks etc. Today in his sixties his knees are bone on bone, he needs double knee replacement, can only walk about a hundred feet, can't ride a bike, and is in agony all day long. YOU DO PAY A PRICE ! ! ! I Myself do a lot of work with my hands, including carpentry, and spent years pounding on things with the side of my fist, like in the vid, my hands especially little fingers, which took the brunt of all the pounding has terrible arthritis.
I reprimand my girlfriend for kneeling on the bare floor for the same reason. Just because she can doesn't mean she should. Use a matt at least, if not knee pads.
Good comment. It's so easy to hit the end of a chisel with the palm and it appears to be insignificant at the time but it will eventually lead to real pain. Use a mallet...maybe not as big as the one Leo used to whack in the deck beams but anything other than cartilage. Once you bust it you are in for a painful time
Very good advice, I thought the same thing when I watched the video.
I did auto repairs in Southern Cal, it's flat rate and it's fast work, but, I can't abuse my hands any longer, it's debilitating.
I am 60, and this started when I was 40, so, I now own a mallet, and I use it all the time.
Never hammer with your hands, it will come back to bite you, and these days pain meds are really hard to get.
Here's an idea.. What about combining, glueing together small rectangles of the old Tally Ho timber, and rectangles of the new timber you cannot use into a key fob, or such.. Hot branding the name Tally Ho for authenticity...This, to Raise monies for the rigging, and a keep sake memento of us ...
Given the timber thickness, there's probably large enough good chunks for furniture and/or fittings for the ship.
I'd buy one of those fobs...but only with Leo's signature on it.
Leo you Could easily cnc carve "TALLY HO" plaques and number them as a limited run to increase the value, best part is it will allow you to use up the "Authentic Tally Ho " lumber scraps and make them available to your subscribers, who would all probably love to own a piece of the oak,that the ship was made from. This would also allow you to fund raise for the project too.
I don’t think he needs to worry about raising money, lol.
Jamie Hall a little extra $$ for a rainy day is never a bad thing.
Can’t stress enough the amazing production quality of these vids. Would be a successful series for a channel willing to take a risk on an independent boat builder.
Selling out, sounds like a good idea.
You only think these videos are good because they are free of the ever present drama shown on "reality" television nowadays.
As soon as someone else got involved in the production of the film side of the project, the videos would become such a different beast that the people who have supported Leo this far along would lose interest.
Your right ! PBS (9) up there in Seattle would have a field day with this!
who else cant wait for the bronze floor casting videos?
Absolutely! Leo and his team's outstanding shipwright skills are wonderful to see, but bronze casting is something else entirely.
Will Leo do the casting himself or have it done? Stay tune for the answer.
Cheapest way to get bronze is from 1947-1962 US pennies. $0.0184856 metal value for $0.01 each. Literally 50-cents on the dollar (54.1 cents/$). Probably not legal, but I am neither a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV.
@@jeffbecker8716 while most likely the cheapest bronze, I would doubt its mechanical properties and melting any alloy is a specialised skill.
@@jeffbecker8716 Probably legal. Apparently "defacing money" in US law means something like using legal coins to make counterfeit coins, like (theoretically) overstriking the face value. It's fraud, basically. Otherwise melting down your spare change or using it to tile your bathroom floor as was a thing a while back, well, that's just using your own property as you see fit.
So pleased to see that the original teak hatch is being reused!
71 episodes in and I am starting to see the boat Leo has seen the entire time.
On April 23, 2020 Leo’s hair achieved independent consciousness.
The more I think of that, the more it makes me laugh.
The first video I watched it had it's own consciousness. LOL
@@jbuckley2546 I'm laughing so hard at this, it's amazing.
I said it before and I'll say it again...DAT boy should write a Book!
Hi Leo...are we having a growth spurt in conscious awareness?
....Self awareness.....????👍👍
Leo, been doing accurate restoration of historic homes for 25 years. Intead of sanding try soy-bean stripper..I am stripping about 3 rooms of fir of 7 layers of paint. Soy strip is the ticket. Easy on the hands, hell I don't even wear gloves vs old citrus strippers. Neutralizes with water, and best thing is it doesn't dry wood out like citrus stippers. Apply a heavy coat, cover with plastic, wait 24 hours, remove carefully with a putty knife. Apply a second coat. Great with old lead based/oil paints. Eliminate the sander except at the finish point. Anyway, put Blue Bear 600 GL soygel on your wish list-I'll buy you a 2 gallon pale. (I am not a dealer, just a old boat builder from a zillion years ago, and now on old house project #1000 plus). Just love your project.
Thanks. Good knowledge for everything
soy-bean stripper, sounds like someone's demands inside the CHAZ or CHOP zone.
Gettng the deck beams in sure does make a difference in the look of the boat.
Agreed, starting to look closer than further away now.
I love that you pulled the beam and took the debit on the money and the time spent on that beam, rather than taking a risk of putting unsound Wood in the boat. To me that’s what real craftsmanship is all about: skill and patience and attention to detail combined with integrity.
So lovely to see the teak re-emerging to be re-used. Boat soup! what a great idea.
My guess is the offset is to clear the Samson Post
The boat is looking fantastic and the quality of the work and materials used is first class! I am looking forward to seeing the floors being cast...I have never got on with wood and marvel at some peoples affinity with it, so watching Leo and the guys doing such a lovely job on Tally Ho just makes my jaw drop!
Loving the quality videos and professional editing, keep up the good work guys.
Cecca...you should do a video on the jewellery making, I have just started making my first pieces during this madness.
Yeah and maybe to clear the root of the bowsprit
Dave Williams sounds good and I haven’t a clue.
Does Tally have a reefing bowsprit?
@@kankama1 And the windlass
You should get an initial cast bronze frame done before making any more patterns to get a good percentage of shrinkage to figure into the other patterns. It should probably be around 3% or so. You could probably add a shim layer to the outsides of a pattern you pull straight off the ship, but it might need to be split and widened on the bottom.
Yeah, this.
He's right on this!
yah the shrinkage factor.
But isn't the boat gonna swell when you get it in the water? won't this account for most of that?
Shrinkage is major when the water is cold.
Team dynamic is great and Leo seems more at ease that I’ve seen him before. Great job all!
Even Paddy is making a tremendous contribution with limited boat building skills. Sanding is a laborious and time consuming process. Look at how well that teak turned out!
Having recently come across episode 71 of Leo's journey on restoring Tally Ho, I just spent the weekend binge watching every single other episode and here I am again. Magnificent effort to everyone involved and looking forward to progressing on this journey with you all.
you got off easy,I found episode 100 i think,been binge watching for a week!!! LOL! HAVE a boat restoration project on my hands came looking for info and ended up with a PHD.lol love this crew hope to see TALLY HO sail into my home port soon,worth the wait!!
as soon as the paint was removed from the teak butterfly hatch and you get a good look at the surviving gain you get this big smile on your face. At least I did. That will look fantastic once it's repaired, finished and installed.
Out of all the boat building channels out there, I enjoy yours the most. it's nice to watch people that actually know what they're doing.
Harsh but fair!
To me the other big difference is that Leo is a sailor. Most people who build boats in the glare of publicity (even before the days of the www) have been, in my experience, aspiring sailors ... and sadly, having spent a chunk of their life making their dream boat, when they finally hit the water, many find that sailing does not match the dream. Even if it does, they have generally made decisions in the build which a more experienced person (which they later become) would not have made.
I think you'll admit SV seeker is pretty amazing for a random dude to build in his back yard though
She's starting to look like a boat! So happy to see the progress and becoming a Patron is some of the cheapest satisfaction I have ever experienced!
Cast floors will be interesting to compare to Acorn to Arabella's welded bronze floors.
I was going to suggest to to look at them, I think they could be stronger and provide more rigidity to the centre-line of the boat.
I would think that welded plates and bars are much stronger than cast shapes. We had cast aluminum handrail infills break in two when the castings were being pulled out of the crate. There were air bubbles in the castings causing weak spots.
@@biggest163 I Agree I think welded would be stronger faster and cheaper. There would be no pores, no flash lines to grind off.
@@pghgeo816 Poor welding has pores in it, just as well as poor casting. Bronze is not a material that weld well.
Leo is a professional, those other guys are learners.
I am rewatching these and enjoying them even more than the first time around as I am now a seer into the future.
It is remarkable how re-watchable this series is, keep up the great work!
Wood'smell, animals, nice dovetail joints, good people around...I feel in peace watching your videos 👌
Having the first beer sitting in the cockpit - now that is a milestone right there!
I realized howling the boat actually is now the deck is becoming more and more visible. Much bigger than I thought. Woodwork is beautiful.
Off set to allow loading of Torpedo’s.
Maybe they'll so a Bogie and Hepburn skit.
Not torpedi? };->
"It's what the people want, baby!"
And Patrick was right. It was what we wanted.
Amazing production.10 years ago you would be stuck with PBS for this quality documentary.
I would like to see a blooper reel with all the mistakes, injuries, arguments, etc. when this is all done. You do such a careful, good job that people may think this is easy....
Look at his thumb....
Darin Ladd Darin I imagine the swear jar has probably funded quite a few expensive tools ,or at least a few cartons of beer ,cheers from down under.
Can Leo finally explain how he cut his hand? I gots to know.👍🇨🇦😷
Hi Leo. I have loved watching all these videos, right from the start. I think there could be two or three reasons for offsetting the hatch. First, and most likely, is the space required to accommodate the bowsprit; second, to allow a decent size of locker below for sail storage or similar, and third, to allow space on both sides of the hatch when a headsail is bent to the rail, using tip a large area of foredeck. Nowhere should there be trip hazards or other poor places for feet. Falling onto the deck or worse is not a source of amusement at any level. This displacement from the centre line wa carefully thought out, and is only to be admired as a 110 year old bit of thinking on the part of Mr Strange.
I love how the deck is looking and coming together from this video! The first video of this series I watched was of Leo showing how he sharpens his tools (made about August 2022). Went back to episode 1 and have been hooked since.
6:18 I love the term "Boat Soup"
I love the way you edit the sped up segments, with the audio running normal, but still edited to match the video somewhat.
It's one of the best ways i've seen timelapses done, especially for a construction project like this. :)
The fact that he cut that carlin knowing the knots would be removed in the joint, therefore utilising an otherwise good piece of timber, indicates the level of depth of thinking required to build such a boat. Amazing.
It's still much harder wood around the knots! Alot more effort to chisel out especially with the grain constantly changing direction.
At that same timestamp (around 19:10) the shipwright gets thrown a pair of wedges when he's standing on a pair of "2 x 10"s.
See, the problem is terminology. Most places call them "10 x 2"s, even in the old money , or "250x50" since about fifty years ago. It sounds much more stable. ;-
@@Gottenhimfella Must be an American thing, 2x4, 2x6, 2x8, 2x10, etc.
I build furniture as a hobby and I find myself thinking like that because I just hate wasting wood (or rather buying more wood than I need to) if I can figure out how to make a piece of wood work for me.
Just binged through all episodes. You are a truly inspiring dude Leo. I hope your group stay safe, and great job so far! Going to be hard waiting for new episodes. 😭
Leo in my youth apprenticing as a cabinetmaker I worked several winters when work was slow for a boat shop in the Muskoka lake district north of Toronto helping to restore mahogany runabouts. On one project we were steaming in 5/4 ribs into a runabout bow, did 6 ribs port and starboard left them clamped up and went home for the day. When we came in the next morning all 12 of the frames had broken during the night into 6" pieces from the pressure as they cooled. The explanation and the discussion that followed was that the log had layed in water in the swamp until spring when the log through its nature started to draw up sap, but was drawing swamp water up instead with all the impurities and with no root system to filter. The the other explanation came from my father, was that the oak had been wet after sawing and had suffered a hard freeze breaking the cells removing its longitudinal strength. All the best Brian
I came here doing more research on wooden sailing ships, building them and repairing them so as to be more authentic and realistic in a roleplaying game. A week later I've binged all 71 episodes and ended up subscribed to another engrossing channel on my expanding list of builder and maker channels. Thanks for the high quality entertainment and education you are providing Leo.
Proper craftmenship! Looks more like fine furniture making than boatbuilding, fantastic job.
The project is really picking up speed now. At this rate you'll be finished in record time in about 2 years is all.
yeah! Two years, as Leo always said … :D ;)
If completion is ALWAYS 2 more years away, no matter which of Leo's superb videos we happen to be watching at the time, all I can say is EXCELLENT! So we should all still be watching in 2024!
2025?
2026?
After all, once the boat is completed there is all the rigging, masts, sails, kit, trials, tests, repairs, sailing on the US West coast, sailing her home to the UK... and beyond... ;-)
@@Jabbatic I am wondering if the boat is still 110 years old. We should be celebrating every birthday from the day it was launched.
@@Jabbatic Sampson's paradox.
@@cynthiaverjovskymarcotte1379 One of the very best paradoxes? I can live with Tally Ho going on forever ;-)
I’ve seen it a few times now, still can’t believe how huge the circular saw is
How do you know that Leo and all the other helpers are not just very tiny.
The Insane Shecklador might be haha :)
With the ease and perfection of the cuts, I'd say that saw was purpose-built... 😊
@@gilbertfranklin1537 actually, therr arr commercially available "circular saws" available with 10", 12", and 14" blades for "beam" cutting. Check your local supply house for orderability, or search online tool suppliers.
Search: Sawsquatch, beam saw, etc...
It's great isn't it! 16" blade if I remember correctly, never seen one in the wild but Leo has one.
For what is a small group, you guys are knocking it out of the park. Great job everyone!
5:32 --- Oh my goodness!! So excited that something from the original vessel can live on, and in such a beautimous way! Happy to have the Francesca sighting, the hound cameos are always welcome, and good thoughts for Pete's boo-boo healing process.
Also thanks for the reminder that Rainier passes for beer among PNWers. It makes me a little less sad to have left.
Another great episode, I'm sure that many tutors will recommend them as educational videos for their students. She's coming together now and looks truly awesome, thanks for sharing.
nobody:
yt: hey wanna see some dudes build a big ass boat?
me: why not
Exactly what happened to me actually
@Laughing Out Loud welcome to the youtube comment section, that's all you'll ever find here.
For most of youtube that is true but the comments on this channel and a few other rare ones are great or decent usually.
Same. But here I am after a full week of binging every single episode since ep 1. Highly, highly recommend starting this one from the beginning. Absurdly gratifying journey.
Pretty much.... but I’m on day 4 or 5 of trying to watch every episode, starting at 1. I believe my first episode was 89 or 90
I'm not even mad that I got this recommended, I mean I would have never in my life searched for something like this
That's amazing work! Keep it up!
and now you only have to start watching it from the episode #1! Enjoy the ride.
Leo, You are correct with the rot. I realize that you have white oak but Standing dead Red oak in New England wicks moisture quickly and when it is cut up for firewood. We call it “Piss oak” with a strong smell of vinegar/ ammonia.
I just want to say that just watching your work is therapy. Wonderful music too.
Beautiful job !!!!! Thank you
She's really showing her lines now. Gorgeous! Excellent work and video, as always.
Great to see the old hatch having new life
It is good to see so much progress. The extra help is really making a difference.
6:24 'Checca' preventing checking? Check
Thankyou for sharing your life with us
Even though I restore cars, the satisfaction of seeing the object of your work take on the original shape and start looking like what it is supposed to be is a very gratifying feeling. Good job mate....Looking forward to the final end product....Keep up the good work.
All that new wood is holding together 100 years of History, for another 100 years!
It's living art watching you lot work.
So nice to see all this progress, living the life
I love the parrot walking around! She's going to be a proud gal, on the shoulder of the captain when the boat is sailing about!
I am amazed at just how relaxing it is just watching true craftsmen working with high quality woods. I used to be a Royal Naval sailor, and love boats. I am impressed and looking forwards to seeing her sail again.
That is so funny - I saw the knots in the replaced carlin and thought Leo replaced a failure with a problem - NOPE - @19:42 the dovetail notch will fall right where the knots are and be cut out of the beam altogether - that is a master shipwright at work!
Noticed that too. Wow.
Amazing progress. I'm always impressed with the sharpness of your chisels, planes etc. I would love to see your sharpening technique and the equipment you use please.
The job youre doing is just breathtaking. And watching you fitting those beamshelfs is so satisfying. 👏
I can't be the only to notice how much joy it is to see you in good spirits. I have been watching from day one and am amazed by the progress. You are killing it can't wait to see the maiden voyage. From land locked Texas, saludos.
You guys are so chill
Which is a necessary characteristic to build such detailed structure
So happy to get the new episode. I've watched all twice and become a patron 😊
yay, thank you so much!
@@SampsonBoatCo it's been such a pleasure to witness the progress. Also, if Cecca is selling her jewelry, I would totally buy some. PS, I am a former math professor and curent middle school math teacher, and I love seeing the math involved. I may show a snippet to my Geometry students.
Leo you continue to blow my mind with your sound editing. Makes me want to dance while your excellent team carves wood . You make it look so artistic✏📐👌 Awesome work guys⚓⛵🎥😇🗽
I will Amen that. Great music choices.
@@dennisbailey4296 The music, to me, was Santana-esque.
pooch is like nope don't want anything to do with this macaw.. i guess he has learnt from a previous encounter :D
Our little caique used to chase my pit bull all over the house.
Of course the dog would defend the bird, to the death if need be.
A dog with many years of experience...too may feathers, not much in the way of meat...yeah nah!
@@doctor2bob and a beak that'll take a toe or three
Knowledge, skill, strength, commitment and sensitivity coming together is always a treat to experience..
To see the first real steps towards putting an original piece of the boat back in actually got me really excited! I hope you find plenty more pieces that have survived decades of mistreatment relatively unscathed
Absolutely brilliant job. It’s going to be a beautiful boat. Also liked the hoop earrings.
Top Tip: don't ever use your hand as a hammer. ever. You'll mess up your hands eventually. Voice of experience here.
Yep, I pounded a chisel with the palm of my hand for a long time and now I have problems gripping things for a long time. Hand goes numb and whatever I'm holding drops or goes flying.
Bargle5 I’m in the same boat. Can’t hold things well, and drop items with out even knowing they are slipping. Silverware is hard to use too. Younger guys please hear our words as guidance for a better future for yourself.
Worked with Steelcase modular office furniture and we used our hands to hit the bottom of the upper steel file cabinets to release them from the panels. Retired now with constant pain in the base of the thumb. So to echo Jake's reply try not to use your hand as a hammer. PS: the newer modular systems are redesigned.
ralph milburn
Or as a saw. 😰 got a buddy who really messed up his hand that way...
I simply love how the parts fit together like LEGO, after just a few minutes of work... :-)
It's good to see that the green building inspector keeps a close eye on you guys. Making sure you doing a good job 😄
Thank you so much for this glimpse into what life a hundred years ago must have been like . Some guys , farm life , pets , a pretty face , smiles and craftsmanship that was appreciated . Well done !
Pretty face!? Leo? Otherwise thank God for cecca's joy, manual labor, and artisanal skilks
My guess on the deck opening offset is that it is due to the positioning of the bowsprit (which seems to ride on one side of the stem in cutters) and anchor chain windlass. Is the opening for the chain or access to the sail locker?
Bril vids as always - Pancho steals the limelight every time
Just wondering at 21:35 the aft hatch appears out of square with the others or does that have to with the taper of the stern. Certified Florida Homebuilder since 1990 and your build quality as good as it comes! Makes plastic boats look insanely cheap and flimsy. Can't wait for the interior build out. Pete's the shit, don't let him go anywhere, take him cruising with you, get him a Brazilian girl, teach him how to surf!
Holy Moly... really making progress there!
I do quite a bit of framing with tropical hardwoods at my home in Thailand. On one project I was cutting a cantilevered rafter for the roof structure when the 2x5 accidentally fell to the cement floor from the horses. This very heavy and lovely rafter just shattered in a clean break with no evidence of wood fibers. Never have seen this before. It looked just like your hammer handle. The lumber appears strong but a sharp impact fractures it like glass. I now test all my lumber. The tropical hardwoods are generally very resistant to decay but many times are left fallen in the jungle for a long time before being milled. I envy your precision cutting and fitting.
You are so chill guys! So this is how people who like their job look like!
You do amazing work. I have enjoyed watching every episode. I can’t wait to see you get to sail her.
Aww man, something about the music in this episode and seeing everything come together, with a great team formed made me really appreciate you putting this content out, but at the same time left me with a sense of sadness that I am not able to join in. Keep on living the dream!
Boss man : "what are you doing?"
Worker : "sitting on my ass" 😅🤣
Which is sitting on the boss man's wallet. ;-)
I'm sure he a productive worker.
Boss man: "Why aren't you working?"
Worker: "I didn't see you coming."
Question: How many people work in your company? Boss: About half.
you get what you pay for
Really starting to look like a boat now. Good to have workers who can proceed at a good pace.
I’m a knife maker, so fit & finish is what I do. Fit & finish is what you do. Awesome stuff!
For the dark vinager smelling wood: I don't know much about wood infections but I do know what causes vinegar smells. I'd say that you have a yeast like bacteria in the wood which is eating any remaining sap or starch/sugars in the wood. This in turn produces alcohol like ethanol or methanol which when reacting with oxygen (when exposed to air) causes it to turn to vinager. Personally I don't think this could pass to other wood or eat up entire planks and would just be localised to regions within the wood with abnormal amounts of sap
Tldr: the woods probably got a bacterial infection, shouldn't worry about it infecting other wood.
- I am by no means an expert in any of these subjects I just know enough to have a theory.
Just to add to the bacterial wetwood discussion. The progress of the bacteria through an infected tree consumes oxygen. The anaerobic process of fermentation is revealed in a sour vinegar smell. In most cases tree professionals can spot it before it ends up at the mill but can be at times hidden.
Not really much can be done other than segregate infected bits and use them to show your awesome taekwondo power stroke 🥋
5:20 made me so happy, to see the old teak looking good! Definitely keep bits like these, patched up, they will tell of the history the boat!
EDIT: Regarding the foremost hatch, i was thinking it's because of the bowspirit, but from the pitcures it seems the bowspirit is also offset to starboard. Perhaps to clear the capstain? Or because of the interior in the forepeak?
The bird inspecting all that nice yummy wood and trying decide how she will go about tearing it all apart.
Bill Karoly I’m sure the dog would have the same thought if he was seven years younger 😂
Without a doubt this series has the best music track of any I've come across on UA-cam
Yep
Oh man, the curvature of the deck beams , showing how she will look when the deck is in place !!