Great, but slightly sad video. I agree with you, and I'm similar outlook. A good transaction is where all parties are happy. You were happy with the price you sold, and they happy with price they paid. Everyone can sleep at night knowing they haven't ripped anyone off. If only more people were as decent as you, the world would be a much nicer place. Best wishes to everyone.
@@1967dragonaxe I agree with you regarding the price of oil, but the price has little to do with oil producers. The price of oil is set by speculators who set 97% of the global price. (3% is set be hedgers).
Great video Andrew, really appreciated the detailed costing, also appreciate your integrity over not wanting to “profiteer”. We need to remind ourselves that a lot of these issues are only 1st world problems: I don’t have an Ionic any more, I’ve only got a Tesla, is a complaint many people would happily settle for! My EV is only a little SEAT Mii, but I love it and try to regularly remind myself that I’m fortunate. Keep up the good work!
I couldn't agree more. Funnily enough, I filmed a whole intro about it being a first world problem actually but edited it out! The Mii is a great little car! I'd be proud to have one.
Absolutely agree with other reviews. Integrity, honesty and plain decency are your hallmarks. Hoping when I am in that situation I get somebody like you to deal with. Keep up that format. It’s those everyday details we all love.
awww man, I am sorry for your loss 😭 I'm in Canada still waiting for mine - top trim in the same colour - and I haven't even gotten it and I would hate to give it up! Appreciate your integrity re not wanting to profiteer in the sale. Still, even as it went you still got a good deal. But don't lose hope re getting another one - it could happen!
What a difference a year makes, the same spec as yours is now on for £31,000. You did extremely well! I feel sorry for the people in negative equity. I agree it’s a great looking car
One thing stands out for me. If you take into account the cost of charging the car you probably ended up almost even for the year. Free motoring for a year! Lots of us would love to be in that position. My cars always seem to cost me more than I can really afford. Good luck to you, a very wise investment.
Good deal with a £2k profit. It genuinely seems an amazing vehicle. Hope you don't get seller's remorse! Really helpful video about the whole car selling process.
I really didn't like the looks of this car for a long time, I was always very pro-EV6, but having got to see more of it through your videos, it actually changed my opinion and now I like it a lot.
You are a good person. Also imagine telling someone 5 years ago that you bought a new "family" car and sold it a year later with profit. Strange times we live in. Anyways I have the Ionic 5 on my shortlist to buy and I'm willing to wait and order it at my local dealer.
Thanks for another great video. Ordering my Ioniq 5 is what brought me to your channel and I have enjoyed watching and taken some useful tips from all your videos! Mine should arrive in a few weeks and I can’t wait! Look forward to the remaining Ioniq 5 content and whatever comes next.
Ah sad you sold it, glad you got a good deal. We've had our Ioniq 5 for a few months now, best thing we've ever bought, can't see me changing it anytime in the next 5 years or so. Agree, it's the best looking thing on the road
I won't be unsubscribing. I found your channel whilst researching EVs and ended up buying a Tesla rather than the Ioniq so I just watch your channel out of general interest and because I enjoy your and your wife's presenting style. Even to the point of watching your video on aircon when I live in Australia and already know all about it!
Will you be filming your journey for a video? Would be interesting to compare it to previous journeys. Theoretically, it should be easier with the Tesla satnav and supercharger network. Enjoy your time away.
This is the crazy car market of the moment. My insurance just paid out £13k for a diesel Peugeot Partner I paid £9k for 2.5 years ago. I had put 15k miles on it and gained £4k profit. (I bought it back as a Cat S write off (£3250) and had it repaired (£850).
Andrew you did well selling at a profit and a fair one at that, I know what your saying about the profiteering bit, private business conducted with integrity sir, in my experience what goes around comes around.
Hot indeed. The glass roof on my M3 is a giant radiator of heat to the cold outside and a hot house in the summer..both of which suck the life out of the battery. Buy the black two piece sun screens and place a layer of THINSULATE between them and the glass to fix those two problems. The view through the glass is rarely seen. You won’t miss it.
Great honest video mate. Really enjoying your presentation style. Love the IONIQ 5, I was with the IONIQ 6 today for a walk around. Great brand and exciting innovative products. You are still one of the very few who had their hands on one 😀
Thank you for being honest about the Ionic 5. I hate you sold it, but you have to do what is best for you and your family. I was gonna unsubscribe because I am sick of Tesla videos, but you and your wife are so genuine that I will stay a while longer.
Recently test drove a Model 3 and was expecting to be blown away like oh this is why people think Tesla is the best and tbh I wasn’t that impressed it didn’t seem any better than other electric car I’d driven. Wasn’t a fan of the single everything through the one screen, much prefer a Polestar 2. So instead I got a Fiat 500e lol I’m in love with the little thing. 😍🤣
@@DanielRomero well, I had 2 ev's prior to getting the Tesla. Yes, the minimalist interior isn't to everyones taste, the all-in screen you get used to very quickly (hardly need to use it on the move, voice commands take care of 95% of input) but as EV's go it is the best at what it does, easy to drive, efficient, and anxiety free. I did a 3800 mile round trip to the costa del sol earlier in the year, no tedious route pre-planning to designated charging stops (with plan b & plan cvbackup plan), just got in, set off and drove exact as I did in a petrol car, no anxiety, no charging woes, no apps requiring your personal data, no issues whatsoever with the car, just a very pleasant relaxed fuss-free experience. If you do such a trip in your fiat (perfect car for local and city environments) or any other EV, you will then appreciate the difference a Tesla makes to your mental health and journey enjoyment. A 300 mile stressful trip down south in a previous EV was enough to trigger me changing to a Tesla.
Sorry to see your car leave you. It was your videos that convinced me that I had made right decision in buying one. Now, as mine has arrived, I am referring back to learn how things work. Maria thinks it is too big and is slightly frightened to drive it. Looking forward to your future videos.
Sorry to hear that. I was initially a bit freaked out by it but I got used to it quite quickly. My wife actually thinks the Model 3 feels larger, interestingly.
@@MrEV A question of age, I think. Maria has difficulty getting into the M3 as so low. It was the same with our Ford Fusion, her preferred car. Technically the I5 is amazing and a challenge to learn. Our local dealer was no help and actually preferred that we learnt by trial and error. Didn't recommend updating the maps. I would imagine that you have now driven to your holiday home in wonderful Italy.
@@MrEV glad that you covered your costs. In Canada, the I5 is reselling about 10k above original price including 13% provincial sales tax. I was offered 68k for mine. All the best.
I really hope you can grow this channel and justify buying one again in the future. That sad face at the end just showed how much you'd enjoyed the experience of owning one 😢
Glad i came across this video i have a Mercedes CLA250e plug in hybrid still with 16 months to pay on PCP Fantastic car but it’s just too small and thinking i have to wait another 16 months before i could change it i didn’t think i could sell it but seeing this i realise i can although I’m not even bothered about a profit i just want to get the Tesla y long range also Love you’re videos Love hearing your Wife’s accent reminds me a bit off my Mum’s ( she was born in Cassino but sadly died in 2008 )
Looking forward to new content of the EV’s you will drive in the future😀Your channel was very informative about the Ioniq and EV life generally. Best regards Martin
@@MrEV hi, I decided I didn’t need suv I5 , I liked the I6 sel trim AWD so much for my wife that I bought one for myself, I got the LIMITED rwd. I’m luving it. Lol I haven’t looked back, it’s comfortable seating plus all the other stuff.
I must add that the Ioniq is on my shortlist. I have access to a salary sacrifice leasing scheme and doing a lot of research at the moment. Someone else I subscribe to had a Tesla 3 for 1 year from new and sold it to WBAC. They increased their offer on inspection. His total cost of ownership in that year was £149 !!!
Yeah the foam needed a power washer not a hose pipe👍 But £60 for the guy cleaning inside and out sounds like a win. Good for you I hate profiteering I just can’t do people for money, just doesn’t sit right with me, I’m the guy who walks back into the shop when a mistake by the staff member had given me something for free. 😁 A free Car for a year and enjoying it even when insurance was even added is great. Off to a new owner to enjoy.
Well done. £60k is just too much. My daughter and son-in-law recently sold their Model 3LR and Model YLR both about a year old and with average mileages. Cannot remember any figures but know they made a profit on each. Only problem: what to replace them with? Only one was replaced with an EV and there was no choice if they wanted a particular car quickly. Never known a market like this before. Strange times indeed.
Ordered a new Hybred Kona, here in Northern Ireland, in May, still waiting for my new car arrival . Garage now stating it could be December before she arrives. Winifred Thompson. Northern Ireland.
The pop out handles are only coming with the Sampan edition now and frustratingly it also comes with the sunroof that I so badly sought after. Find it frustrating these things weren't available from the get go on the ultimate.
Sad to see such a beautiful car go. But very understandable and financially a great time to sell. Owning a car for a year and making a profit is the world upside down. And you were worried it was going to be expensive to own this.. haha
That was good business Andrew, having driven the both Eniro & Ioniq5 for nearly 12 months each is there a big difference between them for comfort. I know it's a hard comparison as the Ioniq5 is alot dearer. Keep up the good work.
You’ve done well to shift that when you did! However, I’ve got a funny feeling these might be worth a pretty penny in a a few years. Of course condition and mileage will be key.
I've just got back from my trip to France in my Ioniq5 from Manchester.... i used Ionity all the way it was spot on, no issues at all... waaay cheaper charging in France!!! local french chargers costs hardly anything. I didn't see a single ioniq5 in France. Agree with the turning circle its not brilliant. Apart from that i love mine. One thing to note in the longer term are the amount of Evri vans now using Ionity which is going to massively reduce capacity for car charging. The Inoity chargers in Kent were full of their vans.
Thank you for your very informative videos Andrew. I appreciate the amount of time you have spent on filming and editing to produce an end-result of such quality. You mentioned the big size of the ioniq. I would like your honest opinion about everyday driving in a big city as I'm seriously considering buying the ioniq. It's either that or the Cupra Born that my wife is all excited about. We live in Athens and have 2 very young children. Would the size of the ioniq be a showstopper for you if you lived in.. say downtown Rome?
Good question! Honestly... and I hate to say this... I'd go for the Born. The IONIQ 5 is arguably the better car in terms of tech but I think you'd be constantly worried about parking it. The Born is far more suitable for cities. Still decent space inside for a family too.
Hi Andrew brilliant video as always, you mentioned you didn't keep the information off the app on your car before you sold it . Did you ask new owners if they would be able to access the information whilst you had it ??
Hi Andrew, I have been thinking a lot about this situation and realising I would have found it impossible to make a profit given I would have divulged the settlement needed from the PCP. I understand market economics; it is my issue I know, but I would have found it very difficult to do. Perhaps I would have tried to clear the PCP first with a bank loan. This way I wouldn’t have needed to divulge my outstanding balance. I’m not sure if this is even possible. If the buyer obtained a bank check made out for the asking price to be paid into your account, then you transferred the balance needed to your loan account, holding back the profit in your current account? maybe I would have explored this option. Either way, it worked 😊
Good video and I have to agree re: profiteering etc. I don’t think I could sleep at night knowing I’d asked for over the odds or ripped someone off, and it would probably lead to a very awkward negotiation and transaction anyway. Love the Ioniq 5 too - never had the chance to drive one, but seen it at FC Live and sat it in, great looking car. Wish my Leaf’s V2G would work in blackouts but it doesn’t!
@@MrEV yeah it is. Wallbox said it’s because the Quasar 1 can’t “island” - Maybe it doesn’t have its own power supply to get the discharge going. I read somewhere that the Quasar 2 might be able to though. And I think the new one will work with CCS too.
Andrew I hear what you are saying about the Ioniq 5. I have the sister EV6 GT Line S AWD. I prefer the looks of the KIA to the Ioniq, but that is my personal opinion. I got my car 4th November, and have suffered all the HVAC problems etc. hopefully the majority of these glitches are now resolved, I can precook the car! It still drops the scheduled charging times. One of my biggest gripes about the EV6 design, is the door mirrors, they cause a huge blind spot!
Andrew, towards the end of the video I thought you were going to cry. You will always miss the car I'm afraid but you will also accept it as the right decision. I miss a volvo xc60 I sold for my current eniro. But I knew if I kept it, it would sit on the drive because I would use the eniro for cost reasons.
Thanks, a good watch! In reality though for a regular punter there's no way you'd pay off someone's £30k of finance and just sit and wait, way, way too risky. As you say you had that Mr EV connection which gave you leverage and the buyers confidence. But for a regular transaction between two random parties it's just far too much of a risk.
Well, go back a couple of years and you would of been overjoyed to have just cleared your PCP balance on a car, let alone make nearly two grand profit! Hope you can still enjoy the Tesla, there are so many benefits to them and their infrastructure. 👍👍
That was really emotional towards the ending. I can hear it in your voice and even your eyes became a bit red. :( As an Ioniq 5 owner it would really hit me, and I think also my wife and kid, to part with it. It is simply such a good all arounder, practical and unique. I can't imagine owning something cooler, and I think it happens rarely in a lifetime, so this is indeed a sad moment :( Good luck with the channel and your future adventures and hopefully many more EVs to review. Really looking forward for you to test the Ioniq 6. Everything about uncomfy Teslas is already known, so really not interested in those. Will remain subscribed though :)
Not sure why you´ve sold the best EV out there, or at least the coolest. Maybe i need to watch some vids before. Anyway in the future you will remember the head turner AKA Ioniq5 and you´ll get some smile in your face. As usual good vid from Andrew Till.
16 years later I still regret selling my Supra. It made sense at the time but I'll never own another vehicle as iconic again. My EV6 is due to arrive in the 1st quarter of next year, we'll see if that can fill the hole in my heart ;)
Thank you so much for the videos Andrew. I am new to the channel and it's 2 am and cannot stop watching these videos. Can you please tell me which one would you pick Tesla or a Hyundai? I am in between buying them Tesla long range is £57 and the Hyundai full package is £53k. Thanks
Thank you! It's a really difficult choice because they're both pretty fantastic. If you plan on doing a lot of really long journeys, I'd not hesitate to get the Tesla. The Supercharger network (and, crucially, the way it integrates with the car's sat nav) makes things just so much easier. In a couple of years things will be easier but right now the IONIQ 5 does mean you're at the mercy of our infrastructure which isn't always great. Would you get the Model 3 or Y? Boot space is much larger in the Model Y than IONIQ 5. All Teslas have some great things like Sentry Mode, and Dog Mode. However... IONIQ 5 is a more comfortable ride (the Model Y is particularly harsh), the open cabin is beautiful, V2L has been a life saver (well, fridge saver!) during power cuts, it charges faster than the Tesla - even on old 50kW chargers (it sustains top charging speed for longer), it has CarPlay and Android Auto and... let's be honest... it looks way better!
@@MrEV Honestly i am blown away by the comment and the attention to details, so thank you :) I am single guy no dogs or kids so i want something that is fun to drive same time don't wanna break the bank you know, especially with everything going on right now. The tesla is more expensive you do have better apps like Netflix and youtube that IONIQ 5 does not have :( I wish they provided built in apps like tesla, but like the warranty on the IONIQ is longer than tesla and better built quality from what i heard and seen online. It does look better i do agree. I am thinking of getting the "namsan" trim which is the latest one.
quick question when you are doing motor way miles or going through country road is the car easy to accelerate and etc , they keep classing it as " family car" which kind of put me off but it is very good looking, the Tesla looks like a frog lol
To be honest, the build quality of Teslas is far better now. The warranty of Hyundai is a massive plus, I agree, The Namsan trim seems fantastic! Having Netflix and UA-cam in the Tesla is good if you're sat for ages charging although we never ended up using them!
Got one last week (new) - Techniq AWD Digital Teal. Have Tesla MY RWD on order too. Wife refuses to get in it and hates it. I love the car and think this is the best car I have had. Will be selling it! 😞
"The satnav is not as good as Tesla" is a bit of an understatement. My conclusion so far is more like "rip out, start from scratch, nothing to salvage here." - honestly, it's the worst nav I've had in any of my cars yet.. and that includes a Golf1 with a 10 bucks ancient TomTom from the pound store. And I'm not only talking about the lack of charger planning. It get so many things wrong that other manufacturers have solved for ages. Like trying to circumvent a 2 min jam on the Autobahn by sending me 30min across various tiny farming villages with barely asphalted roads. Or constantly announcing which turns I should NOT take, because it has no clue about what the main road is. "In 300 meters, keep left." - of course, the lane right goes into a parking lot. All the time. Keep left. Keep left. Keep left.. at every tiny off ramp into houses or parking lots etc.. where every other satnav would just have told me once "stay on A8 for 65km"
Sad that it has gone but looks like you made the right choice and it's great you didn't lose any money. Be curious to hear your thoughts on the XC40 Recharge, Polestar 2 and the Audi Q4 etron... I've shortlisted those with the IONIQ 5 for next year and having a really tough time deciding. For some context, I'll be a family car - myself, 2 kids and also a highly opinionated non-UK/Irish wife.
I’ve had a 5 Ulimate for just 4 months and frankly I don’t care much for cheapo build quality Apart from the 5’s HUD and internal dimensions nothing else is remarkable and no way “Ultimate” so we’re selling and ordering a Q4 Etron 40, more expensive but much less “naf”
Had a XC40 recharge for a year now. Very happy with it. Compared to this video it is the right size to fit in UK car parks and has great Sat nav that does find charge stations fir you. Check insurance cost. Volvo being a standard car is cheap to insure. £400 a year less than a Tesla. So I can live with less mileage. Most reviews keep harping on about a ground up EV design. Not so clever when they cost lots if in a bump.
Would have been good if you have told us what the Tesla is costing monthly etc in comparison. Especially as you sold the Ioniq5 to save/get some more money. Thanks.
I always assume people have seen the previous videos! We have the Tesla free thanks to Onto referrals I've got. We'll only have it for another few weeks. After we give back the Tesla... I'm not sure what we'll do!
Also, you managed to get and sell your ioniq 5 before mine's even close to arriving. Not helped by the fact that Hyundai decided to cancel all the orders of the 22 model in Denmark and Sweden and then demand more money for a 23. Disgraceful behaviour.
@@bibliotek42 Wow. They really did that? Unbelievable. Could be it was not entirely their fault (Infineon might play a role here). I think they might have just created thousands of absolute lifetime Hyundai-Haters that will also put significant effort into dragging potential buyers away from Hyundai.
@@MesoScale I wonder whether that is part of their plan. It seems they have great difficulty producing the Ioniq 5 quickly enough. I have therefore wondered whther for them it's good that they have fewer customers. I don't think they were ready for the success of the car and I don't think they wanted so many orders. Though most of this is speculation. They want me to sign a contract now saying I want to order the car, and that they reserve the right to set the price later as they think fit. Honestly. It's not a supercar or something. I'm very fed up.
@@bibliotek42 Sadly this is happening with other brands as well. Due to uncertainties in supply and inflation the dealers can hardly set a delivery date or price.
Great video. I do think you’ll miss the refinement. I had an early 3 and although the Y I now have is much better built, it’s still nowhere near the level of Kia/Hyundai. The gimmicks are the worst but - I don’t want to see dancing traffic lights on the screen, I’d rather it showed more of the map or had a bigger speed display rather than being tucked into the top right of the screen. Tesla have no idea how to make a user interface.
Mate you could have set up a Patreon and had a payment scheme for us to help you finance the videos and it would have paid for the Ioniq 5! It's the most interesting EV on the market right now and you did the best videos for it. It's a shame but I hope you'll return to it later.
Thanks so much, Keith. It wasn’t the monthly payment that we struggled with particularly - more just that we needed to unlock the £12k deposit we’d put down. I do hope we get one again somehow. Not sure I’d feel comfortable financing it with Patreon though! 😀
@@MrEV I understand the hesitancy. But think about it like this, you can have a Patreon and a donation system for as little as a pound or a few pounds and the people who are contributing are the people who watch your content all the time and enjoy it. So by helping to finance your experience or experiences with a car like the ioniq 5, you are using that investment to give the people who are paying you the content they want and they can cancel at any time. It's really a great platform for content creators to help finance the work they do. Remember that you were probably the best content creator around this car with your trips, so it's kind of sad to lose you as I think that electric vehicle is probably the most interesting one on the market at the moment and it would have been interesting to see how it fared over the longer term with trips like the ones you were taking. All the best with the future content
Patreon is such a great platform! I would totally pay a few pounds a month in support. What's so great about it is how folks can support you with so little (for them), but it adds up for you.
Hi Andrew Great Video and Love You Honesty I don’t understand if you Love 💕 the Ioniq5 why did you sell it? I’ve owned 3 Teslas and yes Great Tech but the ride is better in the Ioniq imo then a model 3 or a model y and I know from a Tesla mechanic that we’re all beta testers for You know who plus, it does get sizzling hot 🥵 w a Pano roof in a Tesla and no closing shade… Thank You Andrew I’ve gotten rid of all my Tesla’s and really would rather not get another one of them Plus Elon just keeps raising the prices and Self Driving isn’t really Great either Thank You
@@MrEV Ioniq 5 was crowned towing car of the year here in the Netherlands. But hey… water under the bridge right. I’ll stay subscribed none the less 🤜🏻
Thanks for the great video Andrew. It's a shame you had to sell the Ionic 5 (for a Tesla??), it is the car we are thinking of but the boot seems shallow for a large (ish) dog. We have 2 Golden Retrievers and there is no (affordable) EV estate around that has good boot space and easy entry. Looked at the MG 5 - too small. Your thoughts on the boot space & alternatives? Looking forward to your next video with Flaviana.
I agree, it is quite shallow. My wife's sister has a black lab which fits okay. The ID.4 and Model Y boots are (from memory) larger so worth looking at if you haven't already.
Why did we sell the IONIQ 5? Find out here: ua-cam.com/video/n62mblTKfEU/v-deo.html
How refreshing to find a guy with integrity and moral values. I wish you the best in life. Keep up the great videos
Thanks so much.
Great, but slightly sad video. I agree with you, and I'm similar outlook. A good transaction is where all parties are happy. You were happy with the price you sold, and they happy with price they paid. Everyone can sleep at night knowing they haven't ripped anyone off. If only more people were as decent as you, the world would be a much nicer place. Best wishes to everyone.
Lovely of you to say, thank you Brian.
Absolutely right. It’s a shame oil companies don’t have the same philosophy 🙁
@@1967dragonaxe I agree with you regarding the price of oil, but the price has little to do with oil producers. The price of oil is set by speculators who set 97% of the global price. (3% is set be hedgers).
Great video Andrew, really appreciated the detailed costing, also appreciate your integrity over not wanting to “profiteer”. We need to remind ourselves that a lot of these issues are only 1st world problems: I don’t have an Ionic any more, I’ve only got a Tesla, is a complaint many people would happily settle for! My EV is only a little SEAT Mii, but I love it and try to regularly remind myself that I’m fortunate. Keep up the good work!
I couldn't agree more. Funnily enough, I filmed a whole intro about it being a first world problem actually but edited it out!
The Mii is a great little car! I'd be proud to have one.
Not a great comment on mrs EV. God bless her though I love her.
You always get a reliable and accurate information from Andrew - Thanks
You are a man of sound scruples Andrew, and I admire that! Keep up the good channel.
Absolutely agree with other reviews. Integrity, honesty and plain decency are your hallmarks. Hoping when I am in that situation I get somebody like you to deal with. Keep up that format. It’s those everyday details we all love.
Lovely of you to say. Thank you so much, Roger.
Sounds like a sensible, well-balanced transaction. Good job Andrew 👍
Cheer up mate! We watch the channel primarily to see you and Flaviana! You could review anything and we would watch!! 💕
awww man, I am sorry for your loss 😭 I'm in Canada still waiting for mine - top trim in the same colour - and I haven't even gotten it and I would hate to give it up! Appreciate your integrity re not wanting to profiteer in the sale. Still, even as it went you still got a good deal. But don't lose hope re getting another one - it could happen!
I think you did well mate, drove the car of your dreams for a year, for free, sold it for a fair price and even made a few quid - bravo.
What a difference a year makes, the same spec as yours is now on for £31,000. You did extremely well! I feel sorry for the people in negative equity. I agree it’s a great looking car
I don’t think I’ve ever timed anything so well! I hope the new owners are still enjoying it.
One thing stands out for me. If you take into account the cost of charging the car you probably ended up almost even for the year. Free motoring for a year! Lots of us would love to be in that position. My cars always seem to cost me more than I can really afford. Good luck to you, a very wise investment.
Good deal with a £2k profit. It genuinely seems an amazing vehicle. Hope you don't get seller's remorse! Really helpful video about the whole car selling process.
I really didn't like the looks of this car for a long time, I was always very pro-EV6, but having got to see more of it through your videos, it actually changed my opinion and now I like it a lot.
You are a good person. Also imagine telling someone 5 years ago that you bought a new "family" car and sold it a year later with profit. Strange times we live in. Anyways I have the Ionic 5 on my shortlist to buy and I'm willing to wait and order it at my local dealer.
Thanks for another great video. Ordering my Ioniq 5 is what brought me to your channel and I have enjoyed watching and taken some useful tips from all your videos! Mine should arrive in a few weeks and I can’t wait! Look forward to the remaining Ioniq 5 content and whatever comes next.
Ah sad you sold it, glad you got a good deal. We've had our Ioniq 5 for a few months now, best thing we've ever bought, can't see me changing it anytime in the next 5 years or so. Agree, it's the best looking thing on the road
Great to hear!
I won't be unsubscribing. I found your channel whilst researching EVs and ended up buying a Tesla rather than the Ioniq so I just watch your channel out of general interest and because I enjoy your and your wife's presenting style. Even to the point of watching your video on aircon when I live in Australia and already know all about it!
Thanks Reginald!
Almost a year in an amazing car and a 2 grand profit at the end. That is quite a result!
Looking forward to your thoughts on the Tesla.
We’re leaving for Italy in the Model 3 on Saturday. Can’t wait!
Will you be filming your journey for a video?
Would be interesting to compare it to previous journeys. Theoretically, it should be easier with the Tesla satnav and supercharger network.
Enjoy your time away.
This is the crazy car market of the moment. My insurance just paid out £13k for a diesel Peugeot Partner I paid £9k for 2.5 years ago. I had put 15k miles on it and gained £4k profit. (I bought it back as a Cat S write off (£3250) and had it repaired (£850).
@@MrEV Will you still post the Ioniq 5 return trip from Italy video?
Yes and comparing to the Ioniq5!
The Demon foam bit had me in stitches! Haven't laughed that hard in ages!
Wait why am I talking like this.
Andrew you did well selling at a profit and a fair one at that, I know what your saying about the profiteering bit, private business conducted with integrity sir, in my experience what goes around comes around.
Thank you!
Hot indeed. The glass roof on my M3 is a giant radiator of heat to the cold outside and a hot house in the summer..both of which suck the life out of the battery. Buy the black two piece sun screens and place a layer of THINSULATE between them and the glass to fix those two problems. The view through the glass is rarely seen. You won’t miss it.
Great honest video mate. Really enjoying your presentation style. Love the IONIQ 5, I was with the IONIQ 6 today for a walk around. Great brand and exciting innovative products. You are still one of the very few who had their hands on one 😀
Thank you. I can’t wait to see the 6!
Sad to see your Ioniq 5 depart. Thanks for sharing Andrew.
Thank you for being honest about the Ionic 5. I hate you sold it, but you have to do what is best for you and your family. I was gonna unsubscribe because I am sick of Tesla videos, but you and your wife are so genuine that I will stay a while longer.
There will be a couple of Tesla videos, but the rest will be other EVs. (Still some IONIQ 5 ones too!)
for the first time I loved your honesty on that EV
Recently test drove a Model 3 and was expecting to be blown away like oh this is why people think Tesla is the best and tbh I wasn’t that impressed it didn’t seem any better than other electric car I’d driven. Wasn’t a fan of the single everything through the one screen, much prefer a Polestar 2.
So instead I got a Fiat 500e lol I’m in love with the little thing. 😍🤣
Model 3 has hype because tons of people have never driven any other electric cars aside from a tesla so they can compare.
@@DanielRomero well, I had 2 ev's prior to getting the Tesla.
Yes, the minimalist interior isn't to everyones taste, the all-in screen you get used to very quickly (hardly need to use it on the move, voice commands take care of 95% of input) but as EV's go it is the best at what it does, easy to drive, efficient, and anxiety free.
I did a 3800 mile round trip to the costa del sol earlier in the year, no tedious route pre-planning to designated charging stops (with plan b & plan cvbackup plan), just got in, set off and drove exact as I did in a petrol car, no anxiety, no charging woes, no apps requiring your personal data, no issues whatsoever with the car, just a very pleasant relaxed fuss-free experience.
If you do such a trip in your fiat (perfect car for local and city environments) or any other EV, you will then appreciate the difference a Tesla makes to your mental health and journey enjoyment.
A 300 mile stressful trip down south in a previous EV was enough to trigger me changing to a Tesla.
Of course you love the 500e! Wonderful car! And yes, I know what you mean about Teslas - exactly the same for me. Impressive tech though.
Apart from considerations like performance, efficiency, space, handling, depreciation and comfort 😂
You do realise that Tesla have 70% of the EV marketpplace ? But you and your little Fiat will be happy Im sure …
Great video and so informative. Agree the looks are great. I didn’t realise how big it is. It’s definitely a family car.
I was expecting you to fully break down part way through the video. Well done for holding it together.
Glad you liked the Ioniq5 and good luck with whatever you get next
Great video - very informative and very interesting to learn about you selling the car and the profit you made; wow!
Sorry to see your car leave you. It was your videos that convinced me that I had made right decision in buying one. Now, as mine has arrived, I am referring back to learn how things work. Maria thinks it is too big and is slightly frightened to drive it. Looking forward to your future videos.
Sorry to hear that. I was initially a bit freaked out by it but I got used to it quite quickly. My wife actually thinks the Model 3 feels larger, interestingly.
@@MrEV A question of age, I think. Maria has difficulty getting into the M3 as so low. It was the same with our Ford Fusion, her preferred car. Technically the I5 is amazing and a challenge to learn. Our local dealer was no help and actually preferred that we learnt by trial and error. Didn't recommend updating the maps. I would imagine that you have now driven to your holiday home in wonderful Italy.
@@MrEV glad that you covered your costs. In Canada, the I5 is reselling about 10k above original price including 13% provincial sales tax. I was offered 68k for mine. All the best.
I really hope you can grow this channel and justify buying one again in the future. That sad face at the end just showed how much you'd enjoyed the experience of owning one 😢
Glad i came across this video i have a Mercedes CLA250e plug in hybrid still with 16 months to pay on PCP Fantastic car but it’s just too small and thinking i have to wait another 16 months before i could change it i didn’t think i could sell it but seeing this i realise i can although I’m not even bothered about a profit i just want to get the Tesla y long range also Love you’re videos Love hearing your Wife’s accent reminds me a bit off my Mum’s ( she was born in Cassino but sadly died in 2008 )
Thanks for your videos, following your trip to Rome we have acquired a Bip&Go toll tag for our trip in a couple of weeks to Umbria.
Great! We have a Bip&Go now too - we’ll be using it for our trip to Italy in a few days.
Really good review Andrew, I agree a cool looking car, keep the videos coming, I can feel the disappointment in your voice.
Looking forward to new content of the EV’s you will drive in the future😀Your channel was very informative about the Ioniq and EV life generally. Best regards Martin
Interesting video highlighting the crazy times of car prices we are living in. Onwards and upwards as they say.
I commiserate with you - I agree, this is a wonderful car in just about every way.
Great video! The ioniq 5 is certainly a beauty. Will definitely consider it for my next car
got to be happy to have had a free year's driving and any profit is just a bonus.
I love Italians! I am Italian myself so I am biased. Your wife is great you’re a lucky guy :)
Another great video, please post more :)
Excellent video...well done. New buyer is very lucky too
I too sold my i5 limited, and it's a great ev, I bought a I6 limited rwd, and a sedan suits us great. Great video.
How are you finding it? I'm eager to try the 6.
@@MrEV hi, I decided I didn’t need suv I5 , I liked the I6 sel trim AWD so much for my wife that I bought one for myself, I got the LIMITED rwd. I’m luving it. Lol
I haven’t looked back, it’s comfortable seating plus all the other stuff.
Great result, thanks for sharing. I'm not selling mine, love it.
So you were paid to drive 8400 miles? Good deal
You are a real gentleman, Andrew!
I must add that the Ioniq is on my shortlist. I have access to a salary sacrifice leasing scheme and doing a lot of research at the moment. Someone else I subscribe to had a Tesla 3 for 1 year from new and sold it to WBAC. They increased their offer on inspection. His total cost of ownership in that year was £149 !!!
That's amazing!
Yeah the foam needed a power washer not a hose pipe👍 But £60 for the guy cleaning inside and out sounds like a win. Good for you I hate profiteering I just can’t do people for money, just doesn’t sit right with me, I’m the guy who walks back into the shop when a mistake by the staff member had given me something for free. 😁 A free Car for a year and enjoying it even when insurance was even added is great. Off to a new owner to enjoy.
Well done. £60k is just too much. My daughter and son-in-law recently sold their Model 3LR and Model YLR both about a year old and with average mileages. Cannot remember any figures but know they made a profit on each. Only problem: what to replace them with? Only one was replaced with an EV and there was no choice if they wanted a particular car quickly. Never known a market like this before. Strange times indeed.
Ordered a new Hybred Kona, here in Northern Ireland, in May, still waiting for my new car arrival . Garage now stating it could be December before she arrives. Winifred Thompson. Northern Ireland.
Promise you will get an Ioniq 6, even if only for a short while.
Another wonderful piece of design by Hyundai
10:30 mark. This is why I follow your channel.
The pop out handles are only coming with the Sampan edition now and frustratingly it also comes with the sunroof that I so badly sought after. Find it frustrating these things weren't available from the get go on the ultimate.
Sad to see such a beautiful car go. But very understandable and financially a great time to sell. Owning a car for a year and making a profit is the world upside down. And you were worried it was going to be expensive to own this.. haha
That was good business Andrew, having driven the both Eniro & Ioniq5 for nearly 12 months each is there a big difference between them for comfort. I know it's a hard comparison as the Ioniq5 is alot dearer. Keep up the good work.
Had mine since November and its been a really great car. Drive like nothing that I've had before, plus lots of space inside.
You’ve done well to shift that when you did! However, I’ve got a funny feeling these might be worth a pretty penny in a a few years. Of course condition and mileage will be key.
I've just got back from my trip to France in my Ioniq5 from Manchester.... i used Ionity all the way it was spot on, no issues at all... waaay cheaper charging in France!!! local french chargers costs hardly anything. I didn't see a single ioniq5 in France. Agree with the turning circle its not brilliant. Apart from that i love mine. One thing to note in the longer term are the amount of Evri vans now using Ionity which is going to massively reduce capacity for car charging. The Inoity chargers in Kent were full of their vans.
Thank you for your very informative videos Andrew. I appreciate the amount of time you have spent on filming and editing to produce an end-result of such quality.
You mentioned the big size of the ioniq. I would like your honest opinion about everyday driving in a big city as I'm seriously considering buying the ioniq. It's either that or the Cupra Born that my wife is all excited about. We live in Athens and have 2 very young children. Would the size of the ioniq be a showstopper for you if you lived in.. say downtown Rome?
Good question! Honestly... and I hate to say this... I'd go for the Born. The IONIQ 5 is arguably the better car in terms of tech but I think you'd be constantly worried about parking it. The Born is far more suitable for cities. Still decent space inside for a family too.
@@MrEV thank you for your feedback. Looking forward to your Tesla trip video.
I was driving behind one yesterday and thought the back-end plastic where the bumper is looks really cheap.
Hi Andrew brilliant video as always, you mentioned you didn't keep the information off the app on your car before you sold it . Did you ask new owners if they would be able to access the information whilst you had it ??
Hi Andrew, I have been thinking a lot about this situation and realising I would have found it impossible to make a profit given I would have divulged the settlement needed from the PCP. I understand market economics; it is my issue I know, but I would have found it very difficult to do. Perhaps I would have tried to clear the PCP first with a bank loan. This way I wouldn’t have needed to divulge my outstanding balance. I’m not sure if this is even possible. If the buyer obtained a bank check made out for the asking price to be paid into your account, then you transferred the balance needed to your loan account, holding back the profit in your current account? maybe I would have explored this option. Either way, it worked 😊
Good video and I have to agree re: profiteering etc. I don’t think I could sleep at night knowing I’d asked for over the odds or ripped someone off, and it would probably lead to a very awkward negotiation and transaction anyway. Love the Ioniq 5 too - never had the chance to drive one, but seen it at FC Live and sat it in, great looking car. Wish my Leaf’s V2G would work in blackouts but it doesn’t!
That’s a shame V2G doesn’t work during a power cut. I’d not considered that as I was actually tempted to get a V2G wallbox at some point.
@@MrEV yeah it is. Wallbox said it’s because the Quasar 1 can’t “island” - Maybe it doesn’t have its own power supply to get the discharge going. I read somewhere that the Quasar 2 might be able to though. And I think the new one will work with CCS too.
Andrew I hear what you are saying about the Ioniq 5. I have the sister EV6 GT Line S AWD. I prefer the looks of the KIA to the Ioniq, but that is my personal opinion. I got my car 4th November, and have suffered all the HVAC problems etc. hopefully the majority of these glitches are now resolved, I can precook the car! It still drops the scheduled charging times.
One of my biggest gripes about the EV6 design, is the door mirrors, they cause a huge blind spot!
Andrew, towards the end of the video I thought you were going to cry. You will always miss the car I'm afraid but you will also accept it as the right decision. I miss a volvo xc60 I sold for my current eniro. But I knew if I kept it, it would sit on the drive because I would use the eniro for cost reasons.
Thanks, a good watch! In reality though for a regular punter there's no way you'd pay off someone's £30k of finance and just sit and wait, way, way too risky. As you say you had that Mr EV connection which gave you leverage and the buyers confidence. But for a regular transaction between two random parties it's just far too much of a risk.
Well, go back a couple of years and you would of been overjoyed to have just cleared your PCP balance on a car, let alone make nearly two grand profit! Hope you can still enjoy the Tesla, there are so many benefits to them and their infrastructure. 👍👍
"good luck trying to get an awd at the moment"
Understatement of the year
Great video as always Andrew. When is the return Italy trip video coming?!
Soon I hope! I'm still editing it.
Free car for year with 2k in your pocket. Did all right
That was really emotional towards the ending. I can hear it in your voice and even your eyes became a bit red. :( As an Ioniq 5 owner it would really hit me, and I think also my wife and kid, to part with it. It is simply such a good all arounder, practical and unique. I can't imagine owning something cooler, and I think it happens rarely in a lifetime, so this is indeed a sad moment :(
Good luck with the channel and your future adventures and hopefully many more EVs to review. Really looking forward for you to test the Ioniq 6. Everything about uncomfy Teslas is already known, so really not interested in those. Will remain subscribed though :)
The Tesla will be short-term - only for another few weeks.
Not sure why you´ve sold the best EV out there, or at least the coolest. Maybe i need to watch some vids before. Anyway in the future you will remember the head turner AKA Ioniq5 and you´ll get some smile in your face. As usual good vid from Andrew Till.
Thank you! I always wrongly assume everyone’s seen previous videos! Here’s why we made the decision:
ua-cam.com/video/n62mblTKfEU/v-deo.html
Look forward to your videos 👍👍👍
16 years later I still regret selling my Supra. It made sense at the time but I'll never own another vehicle as iconic again. My EV6 is due to arrive in the 1st quarter of next year, we'll see if that can fill the hole in my heart ;)
It was a fair price you made a bit of money, a good result all round.
Thank you so much for the videos Andrew. I am new to the channel and it's 2 am and cannot stop watching these videos.
Can you please tell me which one would you pick Tesla or a Hyundai? I am in between buying them Tesla long range is £57 and the Hyundai full package is £53k. Thanks
Thank you! It's a really difficult choice because they're both pretty fantastic.
If you plan on doing a lot of really long journeys, I'd not hesitate to get the Tesla. The Supercharger network (and, crucially, the way it integrates with the car's sat nav) makes things just so much easier. In a couple of years things will be easier but right now the IONIQ 5 does mean you're at the mercy of our infrastructure which isn't always great.
Would you get the Model 3 or Y? Boot space is much larger in the Model Y than IONIQ 5. All Teslas have some great things like Sentry Mode, and Dog Mode.
However...
IONIQ 5 is a more comfortable ride (the Model Y is particularly harsh), the open cabin is beautiful, V2L has been a life saver (well, fridge saver!) during power cuts, it charges faster than the Tesla - even on old 50kW chargers (it sustains top charging speed for longer), it has CarPlay and Android Auto and... let's be honest... it looks way better!
@@MrEV Honestly i am blown away by the comment and the attention to details, so thank you :)
I am single guy no dogs or kids so i want something that is fun to drive same time don't wanna break the bank you know, especially with everything going on right now. The tesla is more expensive you do have better apps like Netflix and youtube that IONIQ 5 does not have :( I wish they provided built in apps like tesla, but like the warranty on the IONIQ is longer than tesla and better built quality from what i heard and seen online. It does look better i do agree. I am thinking of getting the "namsan" trim which is the latest one.
quick question when you are doing motor way miles or going through country road is the car easy to accelerate and etc , they keep classing it as " family car" which kind of put me off but it is very good looking, the Tesla looks like a frog lol
To be honest, the build quality of Teslas is far better now. The warranty of Hyundai is a massive plus, I agree, The Namsan trim seems fantastic! Having Netflix and UA-cam in the Tesla is good if you're sat for ages charging although we never ended up using them!
It goes like a rocket in Sport mode! The Tesla is faster though - it's more "take your breath away" speed. And yes, the Tesla is very frogesque!
Got one last week (new) - Techniq AWD Digital Teal. Have Tesla MY RWD on order too. Wife refuses to get in it and hates it. I love the car and think this is the best car I have had. Will be selling it! 😞
She hates it?! Why?
Obviously, ditch the wife! 😀
Hi,have you posted Italy back to blighty,,I loved the outward journey.
Not yet! I know a lot of people are eagerly awaiting it. It’s just taking ages to edit!
Best ever method for foaming a car is with a hand pressure spray, then a microfibre brush,
Such a shame. Beautiful car. I’m just about to get one myself.
Lucky man!
Same colour as yours too. Thanks for posting all your videos on it. They’re keeping me occupied while I wait.
"The satnav is not as good as Tesla" is a bit of an understatement. My conclusion so far is more like "rip out, start from scratch, nothing to salvage here." - honestly, it's the worst nav I've had in any of my cars yet.. and that includes a Golf1 with a 10 bucks ancient TomTom from the pound store. And I'm not only talking about the lack of charger planning. It get so many things wrong that other manufacturers have solved for ages. Like trying to circumvent a 2 min jam on the Autobahn by sending me 30min across various tiny farming villages with barely asphalted roads. Or constantly announcing which turns I should NOT take, because it has no clue about what the main road is. "In 300 meters, keep left." - of course, the lane right goes into a parking lot. All the time. Keep left. Keep left. Keep left.. at every tiny off ramp into houses or parking lots etc.. where every other satnav would just have told me once "stay on A8 for 65km"
Sad that it has gone but looks like you made the right choice and it's great you didn't lose any money. Be curious to hear your thoughts on the XC40 Recharge, Polestar 2 and the Audi Q4 etron... I've shortlisted those with the IONIQ 5 for next year and having a really tough time deciding. For some context, I'll be a family car - myself, 2 kids and also a highly opinionated non-UK/Irish wife.
I’ve had a 5 Ulimate for just 4 months and frankly I don’t care much for cheapo build quality
Apart from the 5’s HUD and internal dimensions nothing else is remarkable and no way “Ultimate” so we’re selling and ordering a Q4 Etron 40, more expensive but much less “naf”
Had a XC40 recharge for a year now. Very happy with it. Compared to this video it is the right size to fit in UK car parks and has great Sat nav that does find charge stations fir you.
Check insurance cost. Volvo being a standard car is cheap to insure. £400 a year less than a Tesla. So I can live with less mileage. Most reviews keep harping on about a ground up EV design. Not so clever when they cost lots if in a bump.
@@robertburgess2832 Good to know, thanks a mil!
@@ians3328 Thanks Ian, same with the car parks here in Ireland :D
Would have been good if you have told us what the Tesla is costing monthly etc in comparison. Especially as you sold the Ioniq5 to save/get some more money.
Thanks.
I always assume people have seen the previous videos! We have the Tesla free thanks to Onto referrals I've got. We'll only have it for another few weeks.
After we give back the Tesla... I'm not sure what we'll do!
I’m looking to rent an EV next month for a week or two (in London or Kent). Can you give some recommendations or referrals please? Thanks.
Talk to EVision in Rochester. They have a great range of EVs. www.evisionevs.co.uk/
@@MrEV Thanks Andrew. I will contact them. If it helps: if you have a referral code, let me know.
Congratulations
The very fact that you bought a family car, ran it for a year, and made a profit on the sale is astonishing!
Also, you managed to get and sell your ioniq 5 before mine's even close to arriving. Not helped by the fact that Hyundai decided to cancel all the orders of the 22 model in Denmark and Sweden and then demand more money for a 23. Disgraceful behaviour.
That's appalling.
@@bibliotek42 Wow. They really did that? Unbelievable. Could be it was not entirely their fault (Infineon might play a role here).
I think they might have just created thousands of absolute lifetime Hyundai-Haters that will also put significant effort into dragging potential buyers away from Hyundai.
@@MesoScale I wonder whether that is part of their plan. It seems they have great difficulty producing the Ioniq 5 quickly enough. I have therefore wondered whther for them it's good that they have fewer customers. I don't think they were ready for the success of the car and I don't think they wanted so many orders. Though most of this is speculation. They want me to sign a contract now saying I want to order the car, and that they reserve the right to set the price later as they think fit. Honestly. It's not a supercar or something. I'm very fed up.
@@bibliotek42 Sadly this is happening with other brands as well. Due to uncertainties in supply and inflation the dealers can hardly set a delivery date or price.
Where's part 2 of Italian trip???!!!! Good work on part 1 was brilliant
Still being edited. It takes soooo long!
Great video. I do think you’ll miss the refinement. I had an early 3 and although the Y I now have is much better built, it’s still nowhere near the level of Kia/Hyundai. The gimmicks are the worst but - I don’t want to see dancing traffic lights on the screen, I’d rather it showed more of the map or had a bigger speed display rather than being tucked into the top right of the screen. Tesla have no idea how to make a user interface.
Mate you could have set up a Patreon and had a payment scheme for us to help you finance the videos and it would have paid for the Ioniq 5! It's the most interesting EV on the market right now and you did the best videos for it. It's a shame but I hope you'll return to it later.
Thanks so much, Keith. It wasn’t the monthly payment that we struggled with particularly - more just that we needed to unlock the £12k deposit we’d put down. I do hope we get one again somehow. Not sure I’d feel comfortable financing it with Patreon though! 😀
@@MrEV I understand the hesitancy. But think about it like this, you can have a Patreon and a donation system for as little as a pound or a few pounds and the people who are contributing are the people who watch your content all the time and enjoy it. So by helping to finance your experience or experiences with a car like the ioniq 5, you are using that investment to give the people who are paying you the content they want and they can cancel at any time. It's really a great platform for content creators to help finance the work they do. Remember that you were probably the best content creator around this car with your trips, so it's kind of sad to lose you as I think that electric vehicle is probably the most interesting one on the market at the moment and it would have been interesting to see how it fared over the longer term with trips like the ones you were taking. All the best with the future content
Patreon is such a great platform! I would totally pay a few pounds a month in support. What's so great about it is how folks can support you with so little (for them), but it adds up for you.
Hi Andrew
Great Video and Love You Honesty
I don’t understand if you Love 💕 the Ioniq5 why did you sell it?
I’ve owned 3 Teslas and yes Great Tech but the ride is better in the Ioniq imo then a model 3 or a model y and I know from a Tesla mechanic that we’re all beta testers for You know who plus, it does get sizzling hot 🥵 w a Pano roof in a Tesla and no closing shade…
Thank You Andrew
I’ve gotten rid of all my Tesla’s and really would rather not get another one of them Plus Elon just keeps raising the prices and Self Driving isn’t really Great either
Thank You
It's great to hear your point of view.
We sold IONIQ 5 because we needed the money. We explain here: ua-cam.com/video/n62mblTKfEU/v-deo.html
you got your name down for the (so far) impressive IONIC 6? that will be a huge subscriber booster
No way my wife would want that!
If you made some money , that's good. Always sad getting rid of a car you love.😥
I’m not sure how much difference the glass roof makes as it’s coated to reflect IR heat. :)
The heat gain with a sunroof is from the visible light, any low-e infrared coating used only affects cabin heat loss.
Hi! Loved the ionic 5 as well. What are you going to do with the caravan? The model 3 can’t tow that right?
We sold the caravan a while ago. I never did try towing it! Too scared! 😀
@@MrEV Ioniq 5 was crowned towing car of the year here in the Netherlands. But hey… water under the bridge right. I’ll stay subscribed none the less 🤜🏻
Thanks for the great video Andrew. It's a shame you had to sell the Ionic 5 (for a Tesla??), it is the car we are thinking of but the boot seems shallow for a large (ish) dog. We have 2 Golden Retrievers and there is no (affordable) EV estate around that has good boot space and easy entry. Looked at the MG 5 - too small. Your thoughts on the boot space & alternatives? Looking forward to your next video with Flaviana.
We have two foxhounds and both fit nicely in the boot. You’d struggle to get crates in though, if you need them
I agree, it is quite shallow. My wife's sister has a black lab which fits okay. The ID.4 and Model Y boots are (from memory) larger so worth looking at if you haven't already.
Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all!
We feel your pain. 🙁
well done!!