Cheryl . T Harry Potter and Dudley Dursley Patching Things Up The Way Their Mothers of The Evans never Had. They become brother figures to one other. And always keep contact to one another to make sure they are safe.
+MyDadLikesBatman It's the moment we, as an audience, realize that Harry is the closest thing to a brother that Dudley has. After all, the grew up together. A very touching moment.
The part when Dudley says “I don’t think you’re a waste of space” and Harry replied “See ya, Big D”, that was heartwarming and no one can deny that. It was the dementor attack that changed Dudley btw
It actually was the dementor attack. Dudley never had any bad memories being spoiled. The dementors revealed to him how much of a revolting asshole he was which led him yo becoming a better person to everyone
@@shillofnothing9195 Really shows that he wasn't rotten at heart, it was just his awful parents who normalised, and even encouraged cruel behaviour so he probably didn't see anything wrong with his actions until he was literally shown a reflection of them.
if you see the scene without this cut scene, you see that the camera always cuts into every Character's Homes, if they keep this scene, it would've waste abit of screen time to show all the characters departing. But yes, it was a really good scene
Dudley's question about Harry and why he wasn't going with them after his father told him it was for their safety set me off. Dudley was actually worried about Harry and him shaking his hand and saying he doesn't think of him as a waste of space, something the Dursleys instilled in Harry from a young age treating him like rubbish, was really sweet. It shows development and something that in my opinion makes no sense to cut out.
Very true, it would have made the movie a lot better if it would have had this scene in, it would have suprised all harry potter fans, and it also made sense how the music stopped when harry talked to his aunt in the living room, up until he shook hands with Dudley outside, then the music could have started again, then the rest of the movie could have easily have continued after that, it would have only have been like a minute longer if this scene would have been in the actual movie, i agree, it would have been a lot better :)
For those who only watched the movies and didn't read the books, Dudley's behavior in this scene may come as a surprise, but believe me there was development in his character towards this. You may remember the beginning of the Order of the Phoenix when Harry and Dudley were attacked by Dementors. Now, the way that Dementors work of course is that they force victims to suffer their worst memories and fears from their life. Dudley however never actually had any bad memories or fears in his life up to that point, being that he was spoiled and used to getting his way as a bully. Thus for his case with the Dementor attacker, Dudley instead saw a horrifying reflection of what he truly was: a spoiled rotten and revolting asshole. After Harry saved him, Dudley realized he needed to change his ways in life, and from that point onwards he developed a better relationship with his cousin Harry and became a better person. In the epilogue in the book, it's said that Dudley married someone as an adult and had 2 kids. And all of them kept in contact with Harry and his family.
There was a scene in one of the books, I don’t remember which, where Harry steps on a cup of tea that was left outside his door. I believe he assumes it was a prank but it’s implied Dudley left it there out of concern
Dudley stepping across a literal divider while staring his father down to meet Harry one-on-one, then tripping up crossing that line back over to the rest of his family is so poignant. Intentional or not, that was a great representation of Dudley's growth. He's making amends, he's trying to be better, but he's not fully there yet, stuck with toxic family that he's doing his best to defy.
What's crazy is that JK confirmed that Dudley and Harry become very close when they're older routinely allowing their children to hang out and be close. Vernon actually calls and speaks to Harry on holidays and they're on each other's Christmas letter list. Petunia and Harry however never became close and do not speak to each other
the actor that plays dudley has gone on to do some really impressive character work, shame he was cut short in this deleted scene, actor has great talent
@@sabueso344I can see why Harry got close with Dudley. 1. He knows that Dudley was raised by terrible people. 2. This scene, with Dudley apologizing in his own way disobeying his family was a sign that he wanted to be better. 3. Harry knows what it is like to be made fun of for his family members. (Heck, in the 3rd movie his parents were bashed by this very family) So, needless to say, I see why Harry would give Dudley a second chance, and a good one at that.
In the books after Harry saved Dudley from the Dementors and Dudley started to realize what Harry did he became nicer even though acting like always around his Mom and Dad. He put Cups of fresh made tea in front of Harrys door in the mornings right before Harry woke up and didn´t try to bully him anymore even when with his Parents. Harry if i remember correctly first time it happened thought the cup thing was a prank because he stepped onto it by accident but a bit later realized it was Dudleys way of beeing nice. And well then there was the farewell. Dudley learned his lesson from those Dementors.
He's the "Big D", son. What more do you want xD. Read it in the book. Watched it in this scene. And it still sounds weird. Poor choice of words Rowling xD
"Besides, I'm just a waste of space. Right, Vernon?" I love how Harry actually gave Vernon a free shot to call him the very thing he's thought of him all these years. Even after being given the chance, Vernon can't bring himself to say it. He probably doesn't like having his cruelty recited back to him.
Hardly call Vernons treatment of Harry - cruelty…to an incredibly pampered out of touch insane person maybe….but not cruel by any normal standard….mildly mistreating at most
"You didn't just lose a mother that night in Godric's Hollow. I lost a sister" Why did they cut this part out? It's one of the most moving moments in the franchise. ..
CORRECTS YOU Snape ALSO tortured Harry, his supposed love's only child. He was even quite physical with Harry and Ron sometimes, unlike the Dursleys who only ever emotionally tortured Harry. So why did Snape's "Always." line work with the audience, but you claim Petunia's line would have not?
zhaquiri Snape just did that to save Harry's life without letting anyone suspect anything. Petunia was just jealous and butthurt and could have at least treated him as a decent human being.
Everyone is talking about Dudley's last words to Harry, "I don't think you're a waste of space". Crucial yes, there are so many other important things that happened in those 30 seconds. "Why isn't Harry coming with us?" He was genuinely worried for Harry in that moment. Also, the way Dudley stared at Vernon was almost defiant. He was staring at Vernon like "Try and stop me, I dare you. I am doing what you should be doing."
@@luislopez3726 The implication from the OOTP book was that Dudley understood that Harry was protecting him from the dementors. After that, Dudley had an appreciation for Harry, but because that sentiment wasn't expressed in the OOTP movie, it makes sense that they left this scene out for the sake of continuity.
“I’m just a waste of space isn’t that right Vernon?” *No Reply* More than likely Vernon realising just how much abuse he had given to Harry, an innocent boy who had just wanted a loving family.
I think so as well, he even states fare well, meaning that he wishes the best for him. If he would of just said good bye it would of meant I don't care.
@@JeantheSecond-ip7qmhe been conditioning by his parents to spite Harry but since Dementor attack and he mature, he choose to defy his parent wish by respect Harry as human being
@@tiglishnobody8750 yes! The fact Vernon didn't say a thing says he regrets it, the boy is going on to fight a war, and Dudley just looking at his dad like I'm gonna do this
@@theseekerofdankness959 it’s pretty blatantly obvious just by looking at him that he’s wearing a fat suit. And the sound it makes when he stretches out his hand for Harry to shake. Probably one of the reasons why they cut this scene
If they ever do some kind of an Extend Cut of the movie they could easily fix how he looks with CGI. This scene NEEDS to be finished and put in the movie.
A Mundkur Yes, that’s made clear in the book. The linear storyboarding used in feature films, especially those made for general release, tends to lose such subtleties. At the other end of the spectrum, the stage play H P & the Cursed Child is thematic, leading to tendentiousness and constructed allegory (nagging the audience to believe this rather than that), a technique much hated by Tolkien. The books in my view get it right and stay with what would be applicable to a child/teenager/young adult year by year, which is why they get darker as Harry gets older.
Very realistic character. Dudley was an absolute spoiled wanker in the earlier movies, but especially when Harry saved him in Order of the Phoenix he matured and became more decent.
The communication between Harry and Petunia should NEVER have been cut out. Her aware of the magical world after preventing Harry from ever being apart of it was perfection. She knew about it this entire time. Even Dudley's redemption should have NEVER been cut. It woulda been nice to wrap it all up in the beginning of the movie where it all started in the saga. In that house.
I can tell you haven't read the books. Dudley was generally just a spoiled, boneheaded kid, following his parent’s example of being cruel to Harry, up until that point.The background development he goes through after the dementor attack is an interesting perspective. I loved reading about Dudley trying to process his thoughts about Harry and the situation when they’re fleeing Privet Drive. He was never taught/told how to show kindness or respect for Harry but you can tell he’s trying in those final goodbyes. His redemption makes sense and actually *was in the book.* Petunia’s redemption on the other hand *was NOT in the book.* It's way too contradictory to a lot of Petunia’s character up to that point. She’s never really shown remorse or regret about her sister’s death before, not even subtly or implied. This felt like an attempt for a quick “emotional” sting but it doesn't work. Petunia's lack of lines in the book works much better, because you can see that she's trying to somewhat apologise/excuse herself, but can't. Given their past history, this is much more realistic.
@@musichere3287 apart Dudley there's no development. And that was in the fifth book. And again the difference is the prison of Azkaban, where the was aunt Marge. Beside these, no development. Still the same song, Dursleys are bad gotta leave to Hogwarts... repetitive. I am not talking about the opinion here, again I love the books. That's why I am not biased about their flaws. It's guite factual tbh. The same goes with other characters like Cho for example.... totally transparent character. Dean Thomas at least dated Ginny but nothing there either.
That one line at the end was the bit I wanted to see so badly. Just the "see you big d". It symbolises their relationship. The fact it was cut saddens me.
As far as she's concerned, warring wizards first drew her sister in, then won her over to their ways, then killed her. No wonder she doesn't like the wizarding world. She never really understood that magic, and displaying it, were not in a magic person's control, and thus that disciplining Harry not to ever show it and to just live like a muggle would never work. She saw him as frightening and dangerous because of his magic, and obstinate and oppositional because his magic just wouldn't go away, and then finally as a lost cause and a threat to her own child as soon as he was told about his magic and went off to the same frightening, dangerous magic world that her sister fell victim to. It's kind of no wonder she drew the conclusions she did with what she saw of the magic world. In her mind, in keeping Harry beaten down and derided, she was stopping him from getting dangerous and powerful like the people who killed her sister. But of course, she still chose to abuse him - she chose abuse over love, as a reaction to grief following years of fear, jealousy and suspicion when her sister was alive.
@@m_zero3009 Bollocks, every single line is perfectly fine, not to mention how emotional the scene where Pertunia confesses she mourns for the loss of her sister and Dudley appreciates Harry as a friend A monumentally emotional scene, cutting it was stupid
The thing that makes this scene special is that it easily opens a new window into who Dudley was. When he was a baby, baby Harry was brought into his life. And Harry was rejected by his parents. Dudley grew up believing his parents knew best and that what they said must be the truth. Because he trusted them. He believed Harry wasn't worth a penny and was taught to treat him as such, whereas he was also led to believe he himself was perfect in every single way. That Harry needed to respect him. In this scene, you can really see how Dudley is.. So attached to Harry. He grew up with the guy, after all. And Harry going away to Hogwarts must have opened his eyes a few times before they were shut by his parents once more. In this scene, you can see they're opened. Wide. He's going to miss him. He's confused and concerned for Harry's well being and next actions in life since he isn't going with them. According to the books, Aunt Petunia was always the /other/ child. She left home when she was still young in search of someone who would treat her like a diamond. She found Vernon and they had a child. And when she made a family of her own she insisted on making her son never feel neglected. When Harry came into her life, the life she'd spent so many years growing attached to/making had vanished. Her sister was dead. She had a nephew. And a son. She didn't know how to handle it all at once. And she accidentally became what she'd never ever wanted to: Exactly like her parents. Over the years she grew to hate Harry more and more, because his magic disrupted the perfect little life she tried to live even more. But Dudley was different. As he grew older, he became less.. Selfish. Instead of being the brat fat kid from Willy Wonka, he became something better; A person. A human being with a tiny bit of care, even love, for someone he'd been led to believe he should treat like the devil's son. Best part about this scene? Harry sees it. He can sense how sorry Dudley is for everything he'd ever done to hurt him. And no words need to be said to apologize and be forgiven. I will always hate young Dudley. I may never like the family.. But I have newfound respect for their son in his later years. He's a good guy. Just needed a good influence.
Well said. As other people mentioned in this comment section: in the books epilogue it is noted that Dudley gets married and has 2 kids himself, and keep in contact with Harry on a regular basis wich i think is pretty wholesome
@@aurone5700 Actually, I'll admit that I've never read/seen the full series. Most of my knowledge comes from the first book, my sister, and UA-cam clips/memes. It says something about the writing and acting that someone who barely knows anything about the series as a whole can see when a character has truly changed, and is truly sorry for their past actions. It takes more than people would think for an audience to see that in a real, live person.
The way Dudley Say's" I don't think you're a waste of space" Makes me think that Dudley's Spoiled, selfish and rude behavior changed, which means he's still thinking about the time Harry Potter saves him from the Dementors
LegoMan Jordan he is! In the books the dementor attack was his turning point. As he was spoiled, he didn’t really have a fear, so he just saw how big of a douche he had been. Him realizing how terrible he was decided to change. In the epilogue it says Dudley got married and had some kids and kept in contact with Harry.
@@alexdorr2174 Yeah. I feel like Dudley always feared Harry on some level once Harry became a wizard; feared that he'd take revenge after everything Dudley put him through. Seeing Harry use that magic he was likely scared of being used on himself being used to protect him instead changed his opinion on Harry.
The best part of that exchange is the simplicity. Dudley obviously doesn't have the most profound things to say and Harry is understandably cautious toward his kindness. That authenticity is what really lingers with me.
Something not terribly obvious was the firm and LONG handshake. You can see in the clip as Harry tried to release and Dudley isn't quite ready yet. He just doesn't know what else to say or do. I wish it would have stayed in.
Honestly, as a kid the book made me cringe because it was much more over the top. If I remember it correctly, there were several wizards in the house with them and the Wizards were angry at the lack of love and appreciation the Dursleys felt toward Harry. In detail, the book describes how much Dudley struggled to find the right words, how embarrassed he was after saying them, and how shocked Harry, Petunia, and Vernon were to hear them. Petunia starts crying and praising him for saying it, the wizards begin arguing that it wasn't really a significant thing to say, and Harry comes to Dudley's defense saying that, to him, it's like saying "I love you". Harry even told Dudley that he thought the dementors gave him a new personality. Something about this was so much better. The lack of an audience commentary made it a more believably intimate moment.
Vernon was the main evil thing in Harry's life. Dudley was raised in such a way so he didn't know what he was doing was wrong until that death eater thing. Petunia was a jealous sister. She loved her sister but her jealousy made Petunia resent lily. When Harry was at their doorstep, Petunia was constantly reminded of her resentment towards lily. It filled her with hatred towards harry, the boy with his mother's eyes. Seeing Harry must've made her feel regret. Which led to self hate. Which made her feel awful inside and the only way to overcome it was to project it to Harry. I can't say much for Vernon. I think he just genuinely hates Harry tbh.
I think the way he responded to Harry saying he is a waste of space shows that he DOES regret abusing Harry for so many years, but he surely is too proud to admit it.
In my opinion, one of the most moving scenes in the whole Harry Potter series is when a grown up and mature Harry looks back at the Dursley family and reminisces about all the memories he had created in the time he spent in the Dudley Household. This scene especially shows Harry’s caring and compassionate personality due to the fact that he easily forgives Dudley for all the years that he caused Harry’s childhood to become a nightmare. This is depicted when Harry says “see you big D” which ,not only shows how he is able to forgive easily, but conveys how Harry is willing to become friendly with Dudley. In Harry Potter: The cursed child, it is stated that Harry Potter and his family remained in contact with Dudley Dursley. Harry truly is a wonderful character with a huge heart.
Dudley even sent a picture or something to Harry cause dudley found it up in his attic and thought Harry would want it seeing that dudley keeps in contact with Harry im sure they are very close or they think of eachother as brothers and that's why they keep in contact
Dudders wasn't born bad, he was just born into a bad environment. Petunia might have had a jealous streak in her, but it was Vernon who was the one that continually perpetuated the dislike of Harry and his parents, and everything they were associated with.
Petunia and Dudley are misunderstood...I don’t think they were bad I think petunia was just jealous of her sister and maybe Dudley was just jealous of Harry and spoiled rotten ...Vernon seemed to be the real problem.
@@DuckGoddies I agree, while Petunia still abused him, she was way more reasonable than Vernon. Probably because, despite her jealously, she did know a bit about the wizarding world (OotP she surprises Harry by knowing what a dementor is). Vernon was just a complete jerk.
Yes, it's very likely his first time realising that actually, Vernon and Petunia can't control him - that he has choice and agency as an individual. He has never had a chance to feel like that, partly because he's been so coddled and doted on and not given a chance to really learn to have any autonomy as a result. Choice is a major theme in the Harry Potter canon - look at how Harry got into Gryffindor for just one example. And in realising that he has choice and agency, Dudley can then reform and actually take a stand, if only by passive resistance, against their wrong guidance. As I said before, it takes a great deal of courage to stand up to guardians who beat and torment you...but just as much to stand up to guardians who dote on and pamper you. I therefore award ten points to Mr Dudley Dursley.
She did not seem to have expected to find herself alone with Harry. Hastily stowing her wet handkerchief into her pocket, she said, “Well - good-bye,” & marched toward the door without looking at him. Deathly Hallows, Page 42
@@Mopark25 The thing is, in books in general you can commune such things way better with no words than in a movie. While you can write a full page of thoughts etc. for just 5 seconds, the movie only has 5 seconds. So I like the adaptation.
@@thefiendish186 That's where acting comes in though. An actor can convey an entire story with their face alone. For the entire series Petunia has been cold and stone-faced with Harry. Never breaks character. A softening of her face would speak volumes more than any words could.
No but it was implied when her face changed when he talked about the dementors and there were other contextual clues, the deleted scene in the film just filled in the blanks verbally and I think they read into pretty correctly considering JKR had considerable say in a lot of things in the movies.
Slut for Stiles Dominguez could you exactly blame her, imagine your whole life knowing your sister was the more like one of the you're of you, the "better one," she's always felt alone and mistreated, her sister didn't talk to her until marrying and when she turns up, her husband wss mean, like what the hell?
This scene would've changed the perception of Dudley so much because in the books Harry and Dudley's relationship had improved considerably and they wrote to each other and visited each other every big holiday.
Yes. It took tremendous work - on Dudley's part to reform his character and resist his parents' bad (and very coddling) influences and wrong guidance, and on Harry's to move past Dudley's past treatments of him and be open to repairing their relationship.
That apology from Dudley is better than most in this world. There’s hope for him yet and he gave a little peace to Harry. It’s criminal this is a deleted scene.
I can get why they removed the Draco scene though, as it could confuse audiences regarding the ownerships of wands and the explanation Harry gives after defeating Voldemort (specially since the scene where Harry takes Draco's wand from him happened in the previous movie a year or so before) This scene however, I really don't get why they'd remove it when they could have cut fat from some other scenes.
The draco passing his wand to harry is stupid. Harry already had Draco’s wAnd so it doesn’t even make sense for him to do that. And It wasn’t in the book either. Dudley and Harry leaving on good terms is actually in the book
@@youtubeistryingtocensorme yea its just the draco apologists that love that scene, the dudley one should have defiantly stayed as it was faithful to the books and quite emotional.
@@youtubeistryingtocensorme Also he doesn't even do anything in that scene. You just see Draco flash across the screen and yell "Potter" and it skips to Harry casting a spell at Nigini. I don't know why people keep saying he even does that?
All three Dursleys get their own form of development in this scene and I love it. Vernon seems to regret the way he's treated Harry all his life and is just too proud to admit it in that moment. When Dudley asks why Harry isn't coming, you could see Vernon's answer as sarcastic but personally I believe he genuinly feels guilty and is rationalizing with himself that Harry WANTS to stay. Obviously Dudley has his amazing moment but honestly the most heart wrenching is Petunia's with Harry. "I lost a sister." She has mourned Lily all these years without letting it show, hiding sorrow behind hate. She may have hated Lily's magic but she still loved her sister and now that thee people who murdered her are back it makes Petunia realize how much she misses her. Probably also wishing she could have spent more time with her.
The movies made her much less shril and cruel than the books for the sake of this scene. Honestly she was just as bad as Vernon and would rather Harry not even have existed which actually may be worse than verbal abuse. Honestly her and Vernon were perfect for each other, both such nasty irredeemable people that can’t accept anything outside themselves and Dudley and think the entire universe revolves around them. As Dumbledore said, the only kindness they ever showed Harry was through their cruelty example that you should be kind to everyone, appreciate the small things, and be humble in your accomplishments so he would never turn out to be as horrible as the Dursleys
You could hear it in his voice. All of them are guilty, but the character development is amazing. And yes, that is what grief does to a person. She hid behind the hate, that's why she treated harry like she did and never wanted him to go to magical school. She never wanted him to experience the same fate. I wish they would have never removed these scenes
Harry potter and every character of Harry's generation was an redemption arc of showing what the previous generation could have been . Everything , Dudley became what his mother could not , Harry became a better, cautious and mature version of his father , Luna represented Snape and how his childhood was by being bullied but then again unlike Snape she didn't become bitter by time , she did not let the bullying get to her , she did not let them affect her . Neville was a lot like Peter - Scared , neglected , clumsy and insecure but unlike Peter who became a coward and let fear lead him , Neville found his strength , he became braver and chose the right path . Harry and Ron represented James and Sirius where Ron gave Harry the home he deserved and yearned for like James did to Sirius . Sirius is perfect so yeah Ron was a true friend to Harry like Sirius was to James . While the voice of reason was Lupin , here it's hermoine . Only thing hermoine was not insecured by her origin and past like Lupin was .
That is probably the most telling thing about Petunia's affection towards Harry. That and the letter Dumbledore wrote her were hidden away in her things. And Dudley gave it to Harry thinking he should have it.
The way Dudley says "I don't understand, isn't he coming with us?" almost broke me the first time. After literally abusing his cousin for years on end, he actually shows that he secretly cherished their relationship. He knows that there's a possibility of Harry not returning this time, and it WORRIES him! 😭😭😭
Marcus Song Tom and jerry are actually best friends and Tom only pretends to chase jerry in fear that his owner will replace him with a cat who’ll actually kill jerry and jerry hangs around so that he owner won’t replace Tom and throw him out
After Harry bluntly said “Besides I’m just a waste of space right, Vernon?” It’s crazy how Vernon kept silent and kind of brushed it off. It was almost like he’s getting a taste of what he said to Harry for so long and realised how it actually felt.
He realised that he treated Harry badly and instead of admitting and apologize he turned his back and walked away, and that's okay not everyone can admit and apologize you can tell that he was shocked
I know that the Dursleys were cruel throughout the majority of the series, but this shows that in some respects all of them cared for him in some way. Petunia cared, but still was reserved, Dudley loved him more after the Dementor attack, and hell even this scene shows that maybe deep down Vernon cared, when Harry remarks that "he is a waste" Vernon swallowed his pride because he said that, but it seemed like even he wanted to show some concern, but felt like he was passed the point of redemption.
I think I remember reading somewhere that Vernon "cared enough" to always pick Harry up from the trainstation at the end of each year. Though don't know if this was ordered by his wife.
@@MegaBumblebee666 I don't think Vernon gave a rat's ass about Harry. Petunia only made him agree to keep Harry because of Dumbledore's letter. Vernon even tries to throw Harry out, and when Petunia doesn't resist, Dumbledore sends a warning real quick.
I can't fully explain it, but I always remembered this scene being more heartfelt, as if the Dursleys really did love Harry, but tried protecting him (a bit overdramatically) out of fear of losing him. Petunia almost had a moment. Dudley, you the real MVP.
+The Lucky Low Key Loki Yeah, but she had a different moment in the book than in the movie, In the book she wants to say something but doesn't, JKR said that she was having a moment of realization that she would never see her sister's eyes again, but since she has this grudge for her sister she pushed the feeling aside. Petunia wouldn't admit to miss her sister because of that grudge so the behaviour in the movie is inconsistent with the book, remember that the dursleys are all about looks. So even if she felt it, she wouldn't say it.
It makes me wonder if Petunia hated him because she knew in some way that Harry was the reason her sister died (Voldemort believing the prophecy) and he also got to be a wizard (Petunia wanted to be a witch especially since her parents favored Lily because of it).
Nyx & Hemera why would she still have a grudge against her after all this time? Even if Harry has her eyes, she is dead. There is no point in having the grudge to exist.
I feel like deep down Petunia cared for Harry, didnt love him, but she felt like she had to make it up to her sister who died thinking that her older sister hated her, when Petunia deep down know that Lily loved her, as she loved Lily
at the end Dudley is not that bad as a person as Vernon is..... Dudley and Petunia are not totaly evil, they even love harry but they neglect to show it because of her envy towards the sister, that she can't forgive
I think people forget Dudley was abused in a way too. The way he was raised is not healthy. He was spoiled to the extent the doctor had to put him on a diet, his parents refused to admit he has any flaws whatsoever (despite no human being perfect) and he was made to be an accomplice to the abuse of Harry. Dumbledore even told the Dursley's they had done terrible damage to Dudley, right in front of him. He described Harry as lucky he had not suffered the same damage given his gifts with magic. The books describe Dudley as intensely in thought at Dumbledore's remark. It wasn't just the fact Harry saved Dudley's life that sparked the change in him. Dumbledore also contributed to his character growth by essentially telling Dudley: look what they made you to do and think.
I love the silent acting. The way Dudley keeps staring and turning back like he wants to say sorry or just something more profound to his cousin he believes he may never ever see again. but due to how toxic their relationship has been, how he was raised, he doesn’t know how.
He was the MOST mature one. I wouldn't say that shows he's exactly mature at this stage. Pointing in the right direction towards being more mature, though :)
You gotta give Harry some credit here. Even after the amount of hell that he went through with the Dursleys, he made sure that they weren’t caught up in conflict.
It's a genuine Harry, Dudley doesn't know anything about Voldemort or the boy who lived etc, to him he's just his regular cousin, whom he loves. Not even Ron or Hermione have that love for Harry, they all only know he is.
It's honestly such a big theme of Harry Potter in general - children being products of their parents environment. You see it here, and you see it with Draco. Wish they kept this in
Brilliant comment. You see it also with Riddle, whose father never loved his mother, who used a love potion on him, and Voldemort consequently being unable to understand love. And also with Snape, who seemed to come from a troubled and possibly abusive relationship.
You know after so many years, so many movies when you used to see Dudley and his parents bully Harry, being mean and cruel to him, it makes you feel so positively happy when you see Dudley saying the most beautiful thing he ever said in a whole storyline and also Petunia talking to Harry for a few seconds and remembering her sister. I admit Harry Potter means a lot to me and am sure for many other kids that we grew up with his movies.
I'm not sure I'd call it a 'beautiful' thing but I would say it's probably the most REAL and most DISCERNING thing he's ever said. As for Petunia, we finally understand why she hates magic and the wizarding world as much as she does. From her point of view, first it came for her sister and won her over, and then it killed her, and seemed just full of war and evil and dangerous supernatural threats against which she and her family was powerless. You can see why she has such conflicting feelings in that light. Still, she chose to respond to that by going down a path of abuse instead of love. To choose love would have been so much better.
This scene is actually kinda sad you can tell Dudley really doesn’t wanna leave Harry behind and feels really bad for the way he treated him. Pay attention to how long he holds Harry’s hand almost as if he doesn’t want to let go because he means it’s goodbye
Favoritism doesn't just damage the "sibling" who is ignored, but also the one who is favored. Dudley is reversing the damage in his own mind, and that is a huge huge step.
This scene truly shows that Harry has grown up. He finally has the courage to stand up tochiw uncle who made his life miserable for the past 16 years of his life. He doesn't show his anger. He just stays calm, and doesn't let it get to him. This scene also shows that even though they still fought, Harry and Dudley still cared for each other.
@@sarahholtheuer5203 in the books she went as far as begging dumbledore to accept her into hogwarts, but she wasnt accepted. imagine your sibling living a completely different life than you, i can understand the resentment. while i can't forgive her for the way she allowed vernon to treat harry, he was far more abusive in the books to the point it sort of seemed petunia had little say. at most she stopped him from kicking harry out
@@sarahholtheuer5203 you gotta think. She just found out about her sister then her kid appears l. She didn't have time to grieve. Maybe if harry hadn't come for a few months to a year things might have been different
@@lain2508 to me her hatred for harry was because he reminded her so intensely of her sister, and what happened to her. Finding out your sister was dead by the sudden appearance of your nephew with a letter explaining the situation, then having your sister's eyes staring at you for 11 years, knowing that 1 day he'd get to go to hogwarts, the school that rejected you as a child by basically saying "you're not special" would make most people less than hospitable.
Why wasn't this in the movie! Such brilliant character development! I loved how JK Rowling morphed petunia and Dudley into people we could actually Respect. Just proves she's the best author of her time!
Honestly, I don't know. I don't respect Petunia or Vernon at all, tbh. Petunia mourning her sister did give her more depth but that doesn't make all the shit they put Harry through okay at all, they did still abuse him and raise him without love, despite the fact that Petunia should take care of him after her sister died. So no, I don't respect Petunia. Dudley, I think, I can respect a bit more because he was a young bully, raised to believe Harry was below him (like Draco). I still don't like him but he, out of all the Dursleys, was the best one - but still awful.
Far from the best author of her time (that right goes to Cormac McCarthy or Ian McEwan) but definitely a brilliant one. Her success is exemplary of the impact she's had on British culture, easily close to that of Doyle or Kipling.
Cortney Brown dudley sure, but petunia? Nope. She keeps being a bitch. She rejected her sister and lost her the day she did so and not on the night she died. She mistreated her orphaned nephew for being her sister’s child and a wizard as well. I don’t forgive her for that.
"You didn't just lose a mother that night in Godric's Hollow. I lost a sister." Although they cut this line out, this is one of the few changes that I like in the movie adaptations. Dudley's character arc is revealed better in the books, but this character arc never really happened in the books.
The dementor attack on Dudley has affected him massively, stopping him from being a bully into a compassionate person, not to mention that Harry saved him from it too
Nah, it's not important, all it does is close a major sub-plot that has been present through every movie, and give a character an ending to his arc, it's totally not important
in a way whilst it is cruel the way they were treating harry they were protecting him Vernon in the first movie says. we swore when we took him in we'd put an end to all of this They didn't have to take him in they could have left him at an orphanage but something within them said nah we're gonna take harry in Harry says they'll torture you if you stay here petunia says you don't think i know what they are capable of, you didn't just lose a mother that night in godric's hallow i lost a sister the fact she knew what would happen and she was ready for it says a lot okay if death eaters come knock i'm sacrificing myself to protect harry
I like this scene a lot. Petunia and Lily didn't have a great relationship, but deep down she did love her sister no matter how much she tried to deny it. She was jealous and mean, but she still loved her. And the parallels between their relationship, and Harry/Dudleys are really there. Dudley was raised to hate Harry, and he did. But eventually he came around, most people think it was because of the dementors, and I think that played a factor, but I also think just growing older and being able to think for himself more played a factor as well.
The dementors incident was the catalyst that sparked his character development. Rowling stated in an interview that Dudley didn't experience any traumatic memories per say while being attacked, but instead experienced every instance of himself being a spoiled egotistical brat all at once, finally allowing him to see just how much of a jackass he has been to the people around him. And he hated it. So he decided it was time to change.
You can determine if someone hates you to their highest level, keep their pride high (esp. for family) that they are trying hard to hate you, because they love you
I love this scene, after all the years of watching dudley and petunia treat harry like total utter garbage they show respect and dudley is okay in my book after watching this. felt bad for him in a way and Idk why. but still this scene should have been in the movie.
MiddleEarthGirl Well,t his scene was never in the books. It was implied that Petunia wanted to say somethingt o this effect, but she never put it to words. They rpobably removed it to stay truer to the novel.
Jared Knight Actually, this was something similar to the book itself, only their departure was different and Petunia wasn't as cold or reserved as she was in the film
Andy Shepard Not as I recall. I'm in the process of rereading it right now, and as I remember all that happened was Dudley having that sweet moment, then Petunia going ga ga over it. Petunia started to talk, but then left without a word.
As touching as this scene is, I suddenly remember in the book where Vernon was first reluctant to leave the house, thinking they would steal it, only for Harry to reply "Why would I want this house, for the happy memories?"
"You didn't just lose a mother that night in Godric's Hollow, you know. I lost a sister." Your behavior for the last 17 years sure as hell doesn't reflect that, Petunia.
Well, she did protect him. And she did keep the blanket that Harry came in. She tried to shield him from the very dangerous stuff that got his parents killed.
I laughed a bit too hard at "see ya big D...oh" and then Dudley getting his foot caught on the chain. Harry's soft little "oh" is probably what does it for me.
As weird as it is, I think deep down the Dursleys do care about Harry. I mean after all the fighting and everything they've been through they still always take him back. If they truly didn't care i don't think that they'd do that. They probably don't hate him so much as they hate magic since its caused them nothing but grief.
+Steve Ceja No, only Dudley did, because Harry saved him from the dementors, Petunia sees her sister in Harry but she has a huge grudge agaisn't her so she wont admit doing so, the movie scene is not consistent with her grudge, talking about her sister is something the character would never do, had she admited to care even the slightest about her sister she would have shown that to harry.
No only Dudley, and he changed his ways because of the terror the Dementors instilled in him made him realize what kind of a Person he was and because Harry saved him. Vernon and Petunia were the same as always.
They were afraid of Dumbledore so they kept Harry. You don't keep a child you love lockes under the stairs. You don't tell and orphan his father was a useless drunk. You damn sure don't starve a child and call it love.
This just shows you how kind hearted Dudley Actually is When Good Parents has a Good Kid that's normal because they've taught to do so But when Bad Parents has a Bad Kid then turned out to be Good Kid That's extraordinary because the kid searching for the light alone
Well said. I agree, people who come from bad parents who somehow manage to try their best to be better than their parents… it doesn’t excuse any past bad behaviors, but man it’s impressive because most human beings aren’t independent enough in their mind and heart to be willing to veer from the path they think their parents have carved out for them
We all have lightness and darkness, it's what we chose to act on that makes us who we are. It's never too late to change. Dudley developed his character and rised above his parents, showing Harry his regret for treating him the way he did and that he actually cared about harry. Beutiful scene
I imagine that Harry did get in some contact with Dudley, but not Petunia and Vernon. They were actually more abusive to Harry than Dudley ever was, and plus... Dudley was only cruel to Harry because he was just copying his parents and was raised to be that way. Vernon and Petunia should not be forgiven for that shit!
I really like this scene. But I wish that Dudley would have hugged him. Or had some small bickering. I wish that Vernon could have been a tad more polite. Maybe Petunia hugged Harry before she left the house.
frosty1130 no it’s perfect. This is the first time Dudley has ever shown concern, and it shows by him making a small remark that would have seemed trivial in normal circumstances but meaningful in this situation. Hugging would have taken it too far. Neither of them are at that level yet
I agree with Pisces, hugging wouldn't suit the situation. So they treated him like crap for 16 years and then suddenly they hug and all is forgiven? That would have been too much, and it would seem fake, like a forced happy ending. I think its great like that, Harry and the Dursleys part with at least some sign of respect for each other, which is the most they can offer after years of loathing and hatred
@@selfproclaimedesper778 no person has control over jealousy so i am not making excuses sometimes you do something which is a bad and you have regret over it even in the cursed child it was revealed that when she died dudley gave harry his blanket in which he came to her as a baby which showed that in her own twisted way she cared for him and loved him but refused to show it to him it can be said that it was similar to snape but snapes feeling was more because of tye love for his mother
I love this scene. IMO, Vernon is trying to save face even though he has a soft spot. Dudley is almost thankful to Harry the day the death eaters almost killed him. Petunia is almost understanding with what Harry has to go thru. WITHOUT SAYING MUCH, they wish Harry luck. Again personal opinion
Petunia: "You didn't just lose a mother that night in Godric's Hollow, you know. I lost a sister." Harry: "You had plenty of years before she died to make amends. And after she died, you tried to make it up to her by treating her orphan son as bad as you treated her. Don't ever play the victim to me Petunia. And don't ever pretend to care about her."
in the books she went as far as begging dumbledore to accept her into hogwarts, but she wasnt accepted. imagine your sibling living a completely different life than you, i can understand the resentment. wish this scene hadn't been cut because it adds so much, that maybe petunia was devastated at her sisters death, while i can't forgive her for the way she allowed vernon to treat harry, he was far more abusive in the books to the point it sort of seemed petunia was allowed to say little, it was her afterall that stopped vernon from sending harry to the orphanage, and as vernon put it to petunia "i was too soft on you" infact she rarely even addressed Harry, apart from asking for laundry or giving him dinner. at most she stopped him from kicking harry out as well
No, from my pov, she was jealous of lily, she couldn't even hang out with her after she was accepted to hogwarts for 7 or more years. She begged Dumbledore, but always got rejected, she loved her sister but her jealousy made her mad. After her sister's death, she probably felt regret, making her hate herself, Harry reminded her of her sister because of his eyes, so she probably felt so much guilt that she had to put it on someone, Harry. Comment inspired by: @Laicy Bing
This scene should have been kept!! It was super crucial to the Dursley's character development! 1. First time Petunia showed any emotion about her sisters death! "You didn't just lose a mother in Godrics Hollow that night, I lost a sister". She may have treated Harry like crap, but I think it was largely because of her husband. Vernon treated Harry like crap. We rarely saw Petunia show any type of emotional abuse towards Harry, we rarely saw her speak to him at all. 2. Vernon's facial expressions show true regret when Harry spoke the words Vernon so often said to Harry. 3. Dudley shaking Harry's hand saying "I don't think you're a waste of space", if that is not true character development I don't know what is. When I saw the movie skip this scene i was so mad! After reading the book I was actually expecting this scene!
Petunia wasn't afraid of Vernon, so she could have stood up for Harry at least once, but on the contrary, she constantly supported Vernon and looked at Harry like shit. She only gave the best to Dudley, and Harry only leftovers. And here the director is trying to make us believe that she really misses her sister, although in the 1st film Petunia spoke unflatteringly about her and in the 3rd film calmly listened to how Vernon's sister insulted Harry's parents? Hell no.
The Dementor attack in Order of the Phoenix has changed Dudley profoundly, having seen the horrors he inflicted on other children. That's why he's kind to Harry in this scene (and also why he's clumsy since he almost lost his entire soul that night)
I think the scene with Petunia was right to be deleted. That line doesn't solve anything she put Harry through. I guess they did sort of try to protect him. They didn't want him to go into the world his own parents were murdered. None of that excuses him sleeping in a cupboard for 11 years of his life, or been starved for days on end, never having a present, punished for just been a good child. None of that can be excused for the one line. "You didn't just lost a mother that night. I lost a sister." The scene with Dudley and Vernon however should never been deleted. It showed a young man that knows he's no longer under their control. He's now in charge of his life. "That's what I am right Vernon? A waste of space?" That one line gave Harry a victory he wanted for the whole of his childhood. He knew Vernon would never say it. He knew the regret Vernon had. Dudley closing the car door and looking defiantly in Vernon's eyes. Like go on dad! I dare to say it! The crambling over the railing to get to Harry. Everything was just brilliant. It showed Dudley's growth as a young man too. "I don't think you're a waste of space." Too much about this scene was important to show Harry is now in control. Vernon has regret and Dudley is quite clearly sorry and concerned for his Cousin's safety and future. Amazing scene. Who ever cut it deserves to be cruciod continuously for eternity and avada kedavrad when they finally get bored.
Director: I think this scene is a waste of space.
Me: I don't think it's a waste of space.
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Cousins finishing what their mothers could not :3
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Okay that comment hit me really hard for some reason.
Eloquently put
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Harry Potter and Dudley Dursley
Patching Things Up The Way Their Mothers of The Evans never Had.
They become brother figures to one other. And always keep contact to one another to make sure they are safe.
Just the way he says it. "I don't understand... Isn't he coming with us? Harry?" Like... He wants him to.
No, of course not.
After dudleys experince with dementors and harry saveing his life dudly has grown to love his cousion
+MyDadLikesBatman It's the moment we, as an audience, realize that Harry is the closest thing to a brother that Dudley has. After all, the grew up together. A very touching moment.
Strawberry91 first time seeing it :'
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The part when Dudley says “I don’t think you’re a waste of space” and Harry replied “See ya, Big D”, that was heartwarming and no one can deny that. It was the dementor attack that changed Dudley btw
It was Harry's "Thanks" for me lol
It actually was the dementor attack. Dudley never had any bad memories being spoiled. The dementors revealed to him how much of a revolting asshole he was which led him yo becoming a better person to everyone
@@shillofnothing9195 Really shows that he wasn't rotten at heart, it was just his awful parents who normalised, and even encouraged cruel behaviour so he probably didn't see anything wrong with his actions until he was literally shown a reflection of them.
@@roxanne4820 and so I guess he had a change of heart and make so no to turn out like his parents.
Funny. It's probably the only time a dementor attack did any good for anyone
Whoever decided to get rid of these scenes should be sent to Azkaban
NO SHOULD BE SENT TO LIVE WITH UMBRIDGE.
@@soroushnandi4593 oh no
@@soroushnandi4593 well she is in azkaban so...
if you see the scene without this cut scene, you see that the camera always cuts into every Character's Homes, if they keep this scene, it would've waste abit of screen time to show all the characters departing. But yes, it was a really good scene
@Corvid-19 lmaooo
Dudley's question about Harry and why he wasn't going with them after his father told him it was for their safety set me off. Dudley was actually worried about Harry and him shaking his hand and saying he doesn't think of him as a waste of space, something the Dursleys instilled in Harry from a young age treating him like rubbish, was really sweet. It shows development and something that in my opinion makes no sense to cut out.
They cut the scene because it would've messed up the pacing of the beginning of the movie.
callofdoodyfuckinsux: Forget pacing, it was one of the best scenes in the movie.
Sasha Wallace IKR I CRIED
Very true, it would have made the movie a lot better if it would have had this scene in, it would have suprised all harry potter fans, and it also made sense how the music stopped when harry talked to his aunt in the living room, up until he shook hands with Dudley outside, then the music could have started again, then the rest of the movie could have easily have continued after that, it would have only have been like a minute longer if this scene would have been in the actual movie, i agree, it would have been a lot better :)
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For those who only watched the movies and didn't read the books, Dudley's behavior in this scene may come as a surprise, but believe me there was development in his character towards this.
You may remember the beginning of the Order of the Phoenix when Harry and Dudley were attacked by Dementors. Now, the way that Dementors work of course is that they force victims to suffer their worst memories and fears from their life. Dudley however never actually had any bad memories or fears in his life up to that point, being that he was spoiled and used to getting his way as a bully. Thus for his case with the Dementor attacker, Dudley instead saw a horrifying reflection of what he truly was: a spoiled rotten and revolting asshole.
After Harry saved him, Dudley realized he needed to change his ways in life, and from that point onwards he developed a better relationship with his cousin Harry and became a better person.
In the epilogue in the book, it's said that Dudley married someone as an adult and had 2 kids. And all of them kept in contact with Harry and his family.
There was a scene in one of the books, I don’t remember which, where Harry steps on a cup of tea that was left outside his door. I believe he assumes it was a prank but it’s implied Dudley left it there out of concern
That's very sweet to know, thanks
I actually couldn’t recognize the bully as Dudley I’m stupid thought it was a “friend”
@@angelaphsiao I think it was in the Half-Blood Prince that happened. The book version at least.
@@angelaphsiao You know british people are very sorry when they offer tea. They don't screw around with tea
Dudley stepping across a literal divider while staring his father down to meet Harry one-on-one, then tripping up crossing that line back over to the rest of his family is so poignant. Intentional or not, that was a great representation of Dudley's growth. He's making amends, he's trying to be better, but he's not fully there yet, stuck with toxic family that he's doing his best to defy.
I agree, and the way this scene is shot leads me to believe it was intentional
Incredible amount of character development left out by just omitting this scene
What's crazy is that JK confirmed that Dudley and Harry become very close when they're older routinely allowing their children to hang out and be close.
Vernon actually calls and speaks to Harry on holidays and they're on each other's Christmas letter list.
Petunia and Harry however never became close and do not speak to each other
the actor that plays dudley has gone on to do some really impressive character work, shame he was cut short in this deleted scene, actor has great talent
@@sabueso344I can see why Harry got close with Dudley. 1. He knows that Dudley was raised by terrible people. 2. This scene, with Dudley apologizing in his own way disobeying his family was a sign that he wanted to be better. 3. Harry knows what it is like to be made fun of for his family members. (Heck, in the 3rd movie his parents were bashed by this very family) So, needless to say, I see why Harry would give Dudley a second chance, and a good one at that.
They should have kept this.
I agree. the part with Dudley should have been in the movie. A Dursley showing Harry compassion should not be missed.
Dudley is Harry's cousin! Cousins should love each other! Shame those cousins don't!
In the books after Harry saved Dudley from the Dementors and Dudley started to realize what Harry did he became nicer even though acting like always around his Mom and Dad.
He put Cups of fresh made tea in front of Harrys door in the mornings right before Harry woke up and didn´t try to bully him anymore even when with his Parents. Harry if i remember correctly first time it happened thought the cup thing was a prank because he stepped onto it by accident but a bit later realized it was Dudleys way of beeing nice. And well then there was the farewell. Dudley learned his lesson from those Dementors.
Adam Hatson my cousins are more like bellatrix and narcissa xD
true
I bet Dudley is a nice fine man if he's not under the influence of his damn parents.
agreed
+Kick Ass and me ,no wonder dudley is like his father.
I read on the wiki that he and Harry actually have pretty regular contact as did his wife and children.
So you could say he truely grew up.
Agree
Yah, I hope he has a magical kid someday :)
See ya, Big D.
Phoebe Terese Woh, that is a hint.
Phoebe Terese I thought he's gonna run over n hug harry...
He's the "Big D", son. What more do you want xD. Read it in the book. Watched it in this scene. And it still sounds weird. Poor choice of words Rowling xD
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Yeah. Definitely one thing comes to mind...
"Besides, I'm just a waste of space. Right, Vernon?"
I love how Harry actually gave Vernon a free shot to call him the very thing he's thought of him all these years. Even after being given the chance, Vernon can't bring himself to say it. He probably doesn't like having his cruelty recited back to him.
Last slap from Harry.
Those who dish cruelty out often are unable to take it being thrown back at them.
Harry won, ultimately.
Hardly call Vernons treatment of Harry - cruelty…to an incredibly pampered out of touch insane person maybe….but not cruel by any normal standard….mildly mistreating at most
@@mikeno8192 I don't think you have the slightest grasp on emotional abuse
@@mikeno8192 ????? he locked harry in a cupboard for days on end multiple times
"You didn't just lose a mother that night in Godric's Hollow. I lost a sister" Why did they cut this part out? It's one of the most moving moments in the franchise. ..
I suppose because if she really cared so much, she wouldn't have fucking tortured and emotionally destroyed her beloved sister's baby.
CORRECTS YOU Snape ALSO tortured Harry, his supposed love's only child. He was even quite physical with Harry and Ron sometimes, unlike the Dursleys who only ever emotionally tortured Harry. So why did Snape's "Always." line work with the audience, but you claim Petunia's line would have not?
zhaquiri Snape just did that to save Harry's life without letting anyone suspect anything. Petunia was just jealous and butthurt and could have at least treated him as a decent human being.
Roxy Walter no, he actually disliked the boy and saved him only because of Lily. He didn't need to bully Harry to not let anybody suspect something
Rewlp Rewlp He got mad at dumbledore when he found out dumbledore was only protecting harry so he could die at the proper moment..
Everyone is talking about Dudley's last words to Harry, "I don't think you're a waste of space". Crucial yes, there are so many other important things that happened in those 30 seconds. "Why isn't Harry coming with us?" He was genuinely worried for Harry in that moment. Also, the way Dudley stared at Vernon was almost defiant. He was staring at Vernon like "Try and stop me, I dare you. I am doing what you should be doing."
After what happened to Dudley due to his encounter with the dementors back in _The Order Of The Phoenix_ he wasn't that spoiled after all.
@@luislopez3726 The implication from the OOTP book was that Dudley understood that Harry was protecting him from the dementors. After that, Dudley had an appreciation for Harry, but because that sentiment wasn't expressed in the OOTP movie, it makes sense that they left this scene out for the sake of continuity.
@@luislopez3726 more like it humbled his ass not to be such an ass probably lol
Dudley wasn’t worried about harry he was worried about himself. In the book he said harry had saved him from the Demtors in the 5th one
It's not that deep
“I’m just a waste of space isn’t that right Vernon?”
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More than likely Vernon realising just how much abuse he had given to Harry, an innocent boy who had just wanted a loving family.
He's also probably realizing that if he keeps talking, he's only going to dig himself deeper into a hole.
I don't think he is regretting anything. I think he just doesnt have anything to say to him
He just doesnt say anything cuz he doesnt want to agree with anything harry has to say
I think so as well, he even states fare well, meaning that he wishes the best for him. If he would of just said good bye it would of meant I don't care.
When he calls him “Vernon” that really hit me
The fact Dudley is even questioning why Harry isn’t coming with them is great
They were basically raised like brothers (in a very toxic family, but still). They grew up together.
@@JeantheSecond-ip7qmhe been conditioning by his parents to spite Harry but since Dementor attack and he mature, he choose to defy his parent wish by respect Harry as human being
@@tiglishnobody8750 yes! The fact Vernon didn't say a thing says he regrets it, the boy is going on to fight a war, and Dudley just looking at his dad like
I'm gonna do this
Just because one is spoiled, and one is treated like ‘a waste of space’, doesn’t mean they both weren’t raised in a toxic household, 100%
fun fact: Harry Melling, Dudley's actor is wearing a fat suit in this scene as he lost weight and was almost recast due to the weight loss.
That explains the weird sound that his clothes does when he offers the hand shaking to harry
Well, good for him. It's said when actors from our childhood die early.
@@theseekerofdankness959 it’s pretty blatantly obvious just by looking at him that he’s wearing a fat suit. And the sound it makes when he stretches out his hand for Harry to shake. Probably one of the reasons why they cut this scene
If they ever do some kind of an Extend Cut of the movie they could easily fix how he looks with CGI. This scene NEEDS to be finished and put in the movie.
Just look at how he’s walking..it’s painfully obvious now that you say it 😂
“ I don’t think... you’re a waste of space.” Nicest thing Dudley has said EVER
Well, back in _The Order Of The Phoenix_ if I recall, Harry did save Dudley from the dementors.
That hesitation made me think it was hard for him to say something that nice.
And also where he asked why Harry isn't coming with them.
Still doesn’t make up for the years of abuse he suffered.
@@lukelichtenthal5407 no but it definitely shows that dudley is changing into a good person and hopefully stay that way
:') "I don't think you're a waste of space."
“Thanks.”
Really kind of you?
I guess that was Dudley‘ s way of thanking Harry for saving from the Dementor a few years ago.
A Mundkur Yes, that’s made clear in the book. The linear storyboarding used in feature films, especially those made for general release, tends to lose such subtleties. At the other end of the spectrum, the stage play H P & the Cursed Child is thematic, leading to tendentiousness and constructed allegory (nagging the audience to believe this rather than that), a technique much hated by Tolkien. The books in my view get it right and stay with what would be applicable to a child/teenager/young adult year by year, which is why they get darker as Harry gets older.
Very realistic character. Dudley was an absolute spoiled wanker in the earlier movies, but especially when Harry saved him in Order of the Phoenix he matured and became more decent.
The communication between Harry and Petunia should NEVER have been cut out. Her aware of the magical world after preventing Harry from ever being apart of it was perfection. She knew about it this entire time. Even Dudley's redemption should have NEVER been cut. It woulda been nice to wrap it all up in the beginning of the movie where it all started in the saga. In that house.
Absolutely bang on
I can tell you haven't read the books.
Dudley was generally just a spoiled, boneheaded kid, following his parent’s example of being cruel to Harry, up until that point.The background development he goes through after the dementor attack is an interesting perspective. I loved reading about Dudley trying to process his thoughts about Harry and the situation when they’re fleeing Privet Drive. He was never taught/told how to show kindness or respect for Harry but you can tell he’s trying in those final goodbyes. His redemption makes sense and actually *was in the book.*
Petunia’s redemption on the other hand *was NOT in the book.* It's way too contradictory to a lot of Petunia’s character up to that point. She’s never really shown remorse or regret about her sister’s death before, not even subtly or implied. This felt like an attempt for a quick “emotional” sting but it doesn't work. Petunia's lack of lines in the book works much better, because you can see that she's trying to somewhat apologise/excuse herself, but can't. Given their past history, this is much more realistic.
@@musichere3287 Naaah, that's not it either. I Love the books but the one is certain, Rowling f'd up Dursley's character development.
@@lichna8308 Well, I have to disagree. She did Dursleys perfectly.
@@musichere3287 apart Dudley there's no development. And that was in the fifth book. And again the difference is the prison of Azkaban, where the was aunt Marge. Beside these, no development. Still the same song, Dursleys are bad gotta leave to Hogwarts... repetitive. I am not talking about the opinion here, again I love the books. That's why I am not biased about their flaws. It's guite factual tbh. The same goes with other characters like Cho for example.... totally transparent character. Dean Thomas at least dated Ginny but nothing there either.
Dudley: “I don’t think you’re a waste of space”
Audience: Everyone Liked That
Upsetting it wasn't the final cut
Upsetting it wasn’t in the final cut.
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Dudley you were a legend in this scene
Big D 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
That one line at the end was the bit I wanted to see so badly. Just the "see you big d". It symbolises their relationship. The fact it was cut saddens me.
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Big D was what his school friends used to call him, and Harry used to say that to Dudley just to f*** with him(it's been told in the books)
IrishYTG I totally agree
RicharDung _ ikr
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I love how nonchalantly Dudley walks over to shake Harry's hand while still looking at his father.
Agreed, like he's thinking "you can't seriously expect us to leave him on that note"
Real Josh Peck move
@@johnnycarr1999 Oh my god it exactly is.
"You didn't just lose a mother that night in Godric's Hollow. I lost a sister."
Well then ACT like it, sis.
As far as she's concerned, warring wizards first drew her sister in, then won her over to their ways, then killed her. No wonder she doesn't like the wizarding world. She never really understood that magic, and displaying it, were not in a magic person's control, and thus that disciplining Harry not to ever show it and to just live like a muggle would never work. She saw him as frightening and dangerous because of his magic, and obstinate and oppositional because his magic just wouldn't go away, and then finally as a lost cause and a threat to her own child as soon as he was told about his magic and went off to the same frightening, dangerous magic world that her sister fell victim to. It's kind of no wonder she drew the conclusions she did with what she saw of the magic world. In her mind, in keeping Harry beaten down and derided, she was stopping him from getting dangerous and powerful like the people who killed her sister. But of course, she still chose to abuse him - she chose abuse over love, as a reaction to grief following years of fear, jealousy and suspicion when her sister was alive.
😂
Well she’s dead you can’t do much about it
RIGHT! Everyone is so baffled by that. But im sitting here like 🤔"oh yeah?" The same sister??the "freak?"
Show love to your family harry was the last piece of her left.
Been almost 10 years, and I still think they should have kept this in the movie
I agree
Nah
@@godofall7624 why not?
I like the idea of it but idk I think the writers couldve written better lines
@@m_zero3009 Bollocks, every single line is perfectly fine, not to mention how emotional the scene where Pertunia confesses she mourns for the loss of her sister and Dudley appreciates Harry as a friend
A monumentally emotional scene, cutting it was stupid
The thing that makes this scene special is that it easily opens a new window into who Dudley was.
When he was a baby, baby Harry was brought into his life. And Harry was rejected by his parents. Dudley grew up believing his parents knew best and that what they said must be the truth. Because he trusted them. He believed Harry wasn't worth a penny and was taught to treat him as such, whereas he was also led to believe he himself was perfect in every single way. That Harry needed to respect him.
In this scene, you can really see how Dudley is.. So attached to Harry. He grew up with the guy, after all. And Harry going away to Hogwarts must have opened his eyes a few times before they were shut by his parents once more. In this scene, you can see they're opened. Wide.
He's going to miss him. He's confused and concerned for Harry's well being and next actions in life since he isn't going with them.
According to the books, Aunt Petunia was always the /other/ child. She left home when she was still young in search of someone who would treat her like a diamond. She found Vernon and they had a child. And when she made a family of her own she insisted on making her son never feel neglected.
When Harry came into her life, the life she'd spent so many years growing attached to/making had vanished. Her sister was dead. She had a nephew. And a son.
She didn't know how to handle it all at once. And she accidentally became what she'd never ever wanted to: Exactly like her parents. Over the years she grew to hate Harry more and more, because his magic disrupted the perfect little life she tried to live even more.
But Dudley was different. As he grew older, he became less.. Selfish. Instead of being the brat fat kid from Willy Wonka, he became something better; A person. A human being with a tiny bit of care, even love, for someone he'd been led to believe he should treat like the devil's son.
Best part about this scene? Harry sees it. He can sense how sorry Dudley is for everything he'd ever done to hurt him. And no words need to be said to apologize and be forgiven.
I will always hate young Dudley. I may never like the family.. But I have newfound respect for their son in his later years.
He's a good guy. Just needed a good influence.
this is a gem
you mean a dementor lips close to his face o.O that would change a few person ^^ nah, don't worry about it, its just a really bad joke ^^
This is so well written!!! ❤️
Well said. As other people mentioned in this comment section: in the books epilogue it is noted that Dudley gets married and has 2 kids himself, and keep in contact with Harry on a regular basis wich i think is pretty wholesome
@@aurone5700 Actually, I'll admit that I've never read/seen the full series. Most of my knowledge comes from the first book, my sister, and UA-cam clips/memes. It says something about the writing and acting that someone who barely knows anything about the series as a whole can see when a character has truly changed, and is truly sorry for their past actions.
It takes more than people would think for an audience to see that in a real, live person.
Harry: "I'm just a waste of space, isn't that right, Vernon?"
Vernon: [hesitates] "Let's go, Dudley."
That hesitation inferred so much...
The way Dudley Say's" I don't think you're a waste of space" Makes me think that Dudley's Spoiled, selfish and rude behavior changed, which means he's still thinking about the time Harry Potter saves him from the Dementors
LegoMan Jordan he is! In the books the dementor attack was his turning point. As he was spoiled, he didn’t really have a fear, so he just saw how big of a douche he had been. Him realizing how terrible he was decided to change. In the epilogue it says Dudley got married and had some kids and kept in contact with Harry.
You mean it implied so much. We can infer much from it.
@@alexdorr2174 Yeah. I feel like Dudley always feared Harry on some level once Harry became a wizard; feared that he'd take revenge after everything Dudley put him through. Seeing Harry use that magic he was likely scared of being used on himself being used to protect him instead changed his opinion on Harry.
No it doesn't. Read books.
The best part of that exchange is the simplicity. Dudley obviously doesn't have the most profound things to say and Harry is understandably cautious toward his kindness. That authenticity is what really lingers with me.
Standing up to his dad was everything!
Something not terribly obvious was the firm and LONG handshake. You can see in the clip as Harry tried to release and Dudley isn't quite ready yet. He just doesn't know what else to say or do. I wish it would have stayed in.
right? the realism is what's always stuck with me for all these years
At least in the books after the death of Voldemort they stayed in touch
Honestly, as a kid the book made me cringe because it was much more over the top. If I remember it correctly, there were several wizards in the house with them and the Wizards were angry at the lack of love and appreciation the Dursleys felt toward Harry. In detail, the book describes how much Dudley struggled to find the right words, how embarrassed he was after saying them, and how shocked Harry, Petunia, and Vernon were to hear them. Petunia starts crying and praising him for saying it, the wizards begin arguing that it wasn't really a significant thing to say, and Harry comes to Dudley's defense saying that, to him, it's like saying "I love you". Harry even told Dudley that he thought the dementors gave him a new personality.
Something about this was so much better. The lack of an audience commentary made it a more believably intimate moment.
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“You didn’t just lose a mother in Godric’s hollow you know, I lost a sister...”
Harry should have responded
“And you could have gained a son....”
Yes! That would've been great! Harry standing up for himself would've been super satisfying
!!!!!! Yes.
Yeah, but he could have grown past that PTSD and that could've been the proving moment
CJ Carter Oompf, as if that was easy.
Of course it isn't in real life. But, I don't know if you've noticed, we don't really have wizards in real life either. It's a fictional world
Vernon was the main evil thing in Harry's life. Dudley was raised in such a way so he didn't know what he was doing was wrong until that death eater thing. Petunia was a jealous sister. She loved her sister but her jealousy made Petunia resent lily. When Harry was at their doorstep, Petunia was constantly reminded of her resentment towards lily. It filled her with hatred towards harry, the boy with his mother's eyes. Seeing Harry must've made her feel regret. Which led to self hate. Which made her feel awful inside and the only way to overcome it was to project it to Harry. I can't say much for Vernon. I think he just genuinely hates Harry tbh.
Laicy Bing you mean until that dementor thing? XD
I think the way he responded to Harry saying he is a waste of space shows that he DOES regret abusing Harry for so many years, but he surely is too proud to admit it.
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Well, Vernon isn't blood related to him. Make sense
@@zaniahpeverell1983 no vernon hated harry for a similar reason snape hated harry, because of harrys dad
Dudley: I don't think you're a waste of space
Harry: That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said to me!
SIX SEASONS AND A MOVIE!!!
A. Grace I think your forget the nicest thing Albus said. That it’s not keeping the boy alive it’s making sure he dies at the right moment lol.
You keep de muhnee?
@@internetperson573 He finally saw his value
In my opinion, one of the most moving scenes in the whole Harry Potter series is when a grown up and mature Harry looks back at the Dursley family and reminisces about all the memories he had created in the time he spent in the Dudley Household. This scene especially shows Harry’s caring and compassionate personality due to the fact that he easily forgives Dudley for all the years that he caused Harry’s childhood to become a nightmare. This is depicted when Harry says “see you big D” which ,not only shows how he is able to forgive easily, but conveys how Harry is willing to become friendly with Dudley. In Harry Potter: The cursed child, it is stated that Harry Potter and his family remained in contact with Dudley Dursley. Harry truly is a wonderful character with a huge heart.
i'd like to think In Dudley's eyes Harry was the brother he never had, even tho they were cousins
Dudley even sent a picture or something to Harry cause dudley found it up in his attic and thought Harry would want it seeing that dudley keeps in contact with Harry im sure they are very close or they think of eachother as brothers and that's why they keep in contact
@@tomoplayzzOfficialit was the blanket was wrapped in when he came to the dursleys. Petunia kept it.
Dudders wasn't born bad, he was just born into a bad environment. Petunia might have had a jealous streak in her, but it was Vernon who was the one that continually perpetuated the dislike of Harry and his parents, and everything they were associated with.
@@erikhantariq1913the baby blanket
Dudley ain’t a bad person he’s just spoiled by his parents
They're all bad
@@eljordinio7647 Dudley is not, tho.
Petunia and Dudley are misunderstood...I don’t think they were bad I think petunia was just jealous of her sister and maybe Dudley was just jealous of Harry and spoiled rotten ...Vernon seemed to be the real problem.
@@DuckGoddies I agree, while Petunia still abused him, she was way more reasonable than Vernon. Probably because, despite her jealously, she did know a bit about the wizarding world (OotP she surprises Harry by knowing what a dementor is). Vernon was just a complete jerk.
@@DuckGoddies they were all just as bad with Vernon having it the worst
haha,the way Dudley looks at his father when he walks over to Harry.He looks like:Huh,what are you gonna do about it dad?XD
My take was more like "Well, if you're not gonna say it, I will."
i love how dudley was walking toward harry while looking at vernon like “haha im gonna say goodbye to harry and you cant do anything about it”
he probs thought "what r u gonna do? chase me with that ballon you call a body?" R.I.P to the actor who played uncle vernon tho...
Yes, it's very likely his first time realising that actually, Vernon and Petunia can't control him - that he has choice and agency as an individual. He has never had a chance to feel like that, partly because he's been so coddled and doted on and not given a chance to really learn to have any autonomy as a result. Choice is a major theme in the Harry Potter canon - look at how Harry got into Gryffindor for just one example. And in realising that he has choice and agency, Dudley can then reform and actually take a stand, if only by passive resistance, against their wrong guidance. As I said before, it takes a great deal of courage to stand up to guardians who beat and torment you...but just as much to stand up to guardians who dote on and pamper you. I therefore award ten points to Mr Dudley Dursley.
@@catherinespark 💯 100 points for Catherine spark for the marvelous explanation
Reminds me of Vernon's smug face while burning the letters from Hogwarts.
@@pokemontrainerelio3648 LMAO
I love how they actually gave Petunia the chance to speak. In the book she didn’t say anything before they left.
She did give him a caring look, which I think served the character better than what she says here.
She did not seem to have expected to find herself alone with Harry. Hastily stowing her wet handkerchief into her pocket, she said, “Well - good-bye,” & marched toward the door without looking at him.
Deathly Hallows, Page 42
@@Mopark25 The thing is, in books in general you can commune such things way better with no words than in a movie. While you can write a full page of thoughts etc. for just 5 seconds, the movie only has 5 seconds. So I like the adaptation.
@@thefiendish186 That's where acting comes in though. An actor can convey an entire story with their face alone.
For the entire series Petunia has been cold and stone-faced with Harry. Never breaks character. A softening of her face would speak volumes more than any words could.
No but it was implied when her face changed when he talked about the dementors and there were other contextual clues, the deleted scene in the film just filled in the blanks verbally and I think they read into pretty correctly considering JKR had considerable say in a lot of things in the movies.
Petunia didn't lose her sister that night. She lost her the day she rejected her
Diana Dominguez she only rejected her because she wanted to be like
This is so true and deep
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Slut for Stiles Dominguez could you exactly blame her, imagine your whole life knowing your sister was the more like one of the you're of you, the "better one," she's always felt alone and mistreated, her sister didn't talk to her until marrying and when she turns up, her husband wss mean, like what the hell?
Anony X what
I like to pretend that this scene wasn’t cut
Same
I think I would too.
If I watch this movie on tv, I will pause the TV when it shows before the cut scene, so I can see this then I can resume
Technically this scene is canon, cause it happened in the books.
It was still in the books so idk why it got deleted
This scene would've changed the perception of Dudley so much because in the books Harry and Dudley's relationship had improved considerably and they wrote to each other and visited each other every big holiday.
Yes. It took tremendous work - on Dudley's part to reform his character and resist his parents' bad (and very coddling) influences and wrong guidance, and on Harry's to move past Dudley's past treatments of him and be open to repairing their relationship.
They were on Christmas card terms
That apology from Dudley is better than most in this world. There’s hope for him yet and he gave a little peace to Harry. It’s criminal this is a deleted scene.
Why was this cut out? It's a moving scene that really shows the complexity and character development of the Dursley family.
It messed with the pace of the movie
Raafe Ghori pfft who cares about pace when they're great scene s
It didn't go with the rhythm of the opening scene
George Acreo because it’s in the books
And the pacing of the movie ended up sucking anyways.
Fun fact: Actor for Dudley’s real name is Harry. Ironic,isn’t it?
It is, actually.
Yea it really is
It makes it even funnier when Hagrid first meets the Dursley’s and he mistakes Dudley for Harry and Dudley says “I’m not Harry”
Wow I wonder if it was uncomfortable saying harry's name since it was his name in Irl
The director would have been like
"Here Harry , you have to bully Harry "
This scene and the one where Draco passes his wand to Harry are the two scenes I’m really mad about that were cut
I can get why they removed the Draco scene though, as it could confuse audiences regarding the ownerships of wands and the explanation Harry gives after defeating Voldemort (specially since the scene where Harry takes Draco's wand from him happened in the previous movie a year or so before)
This scene however, I really don't get why they'd remove it when they could have cut fat from some other scenes.
The draco passing his wand to harry is stupid. Harry already had Draco’s wAnd so it doesn’t even make sense for him to do that. And It wasn’t in the book either. Dudley and Harry leaving on good terms is actually in the book
@@youtubeistryingtocensorme yea its just the draco apologists that love that scene, the dudley one should have defiantly stayed as it was faithful to the books and quite emotional.
@@youtubeistryingtocensorme Also he doesn't even do anything in that scene. You just see Draco flash across the screen and yell "Potter" and it skips to Harry casting a spell at Nigini. I don't know why people keep saying he even does that?
@@bobvanka
I think it's because Dan (Harry) reached his hand out as if he was catching something, so people assumed he was catching a wand from Draco.
All three Dursleys get their own form of development in this scene and I love it. Vernon seems to regret the way he's treated Harry all his life and is just too proud to admit it in that moment. When Dudley asks why Harry isn't coming, you could see Vernon's answer as sarcastic but personally I believe he genuinly feels guilty and is rationalizing with himself that Harry WANTS to stay. Obviously Dudley has his amazing moment but honestly the most heart wrenching is Petunia's with Harry. "I lost a sister." She has mourned Lily all these years without letting it show, hiding sorrow behind hate. She may have hated Lily's magic but she still loved her sister and now that thee people who murdered her are back it makes Petunia realize how much she misses her. Probably also wishing she could have spent more time with her.
Bang on. The fact that this was cut is just baffling tbh
The movies made her much less shril and cruel than the books for the sake of this scene. Honestly she was just as bad as Vernon and would rather Harry not even have existed which actually may be worse than verbal abuse. Honestly her and Vernon were perfect for each other, both such nasty irredeemable people that can’t accept anything outside themselves and Dudley and think the entire universe revolves around them. As Dumbledore said, the only kindness they ever showed Harry was through their cruelty example that you should be kind to everyone, appreciate the small things, and be humble in your accomplishments so he would never turn out to be as horrible as the Dursleys
You could hear it in his voice. All of them are guilty, but the character development is amazing. And yes, that is what grief does to a person. She hid behind the hate, that's why she treated harry like she did and never wanted him to go to magical school. She never wanted him to experience the same fate. I wish they would have never removed these scenes
Harry potter and every character of Harry's generation was an redemption arc of showing what the previous generation could have been . Everything , Dudley became what his mother could not , Harry became a better, cautious and mature version of his father , Luna represented Snape and how his childhood was by being bullied but then again unlike Snape she didn't become bitter by time , she did not let the bullying get to her , she did not let them affect her . Neville was a lot like Peter - Scared , neglected , clumsy and insecure but unlike Peter who became a coward and let fear lead him , Neville found his strength , he became braver and chose the right path . Harry and Ron represented James and Sirius where Ron gave Harry the home he deserved and yearned for like James did to Sirius . Sirius is perfect so yeah Ron was a true friend to Harry like Sirius was to James . While the voice of reason was Lupin , here it's hermoine . Only thing hermoine was not insecured by her origin and past like Lupin was .
this is great and makes sm sense
Pitter patter smcmatter gatter
Hermione*
Luna was also better than xenophilius come to that.
And Vernon is just a massive prick
It is actually stated Aunt Petunia kept Harry's blankets he was wrapped in when he first arrived until she passed away after a few years
It was after the war in February 2020, when Petunia was in hospital
That is probably the most telling thing about Petunia's affection towards Harry. That and the letter Dumbledore wrote her were hidden away in her things. And Dudley gave it to Harry thinking he should have it.
How do you know this, please? Where did you find it?
@@VeronicaGee134 It was in the Cursed Child. I also recall Jk Rowling mentioning this.
That's nice, but it doesn't really mean much. She abused Harry for his entire childhood. One small gesture doesn't make up for that.
The way Dudley says "I don't understand, isn't he coming with us?" almost broke me the first time. After literally abusing his cousin for years on end, he actually shows that he secretly cherished their relationship.
He knows that there's a possibility of Harry not returning this time, and it WORRIES him! 😭😭😭
Johnny Salery just like Tom and Jerry’s relationship
Marcus Song Tom and jerry are actually best friends and Tom only pretends to chase jerry in fear that his owner will replace him with a cat who’ll actually kill jerry and jerry hangs around so that he owner won’t replace Tom and throw him out
Coralia .I welp, thanks for shooting my take out of the sky
Marcus Song sorry didn’t mean to.. just thought it’d be a fun fact kinda thing..
Coralia .I it’s okay, I was just quoting a certain person
After Harry bluntly said “Besides I’m just a waste of space right, Vernon?” It’s crazy how Vernon kept silent and kind of brushed it off. It was almost like he’s getting a taste of what he said to Harry for so long and realised how it actually felt.
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To me Vernon finally got what he deserves after abusing Harry for too long.
He realised that he treated Harry badly and instead of admitting and apologize he turned his back and walked away, and that's okay not everyone can admit and apologize you can tell that he was shocked
Oh yes maybe one day he will learn.
I know that the Dursleys were cruel throughout the majority of the series, but this shows that in some respects all of them cared for him in some way. Petunia cared, but still was reserved, Dudley loved him more after the Dementor attack, and hell even this scene shows that maybe deep down Vernon cared, when Harry remarks that "he is a waste" Vernon swallowed his pride because he said that, but it seemed like even he wanted to show some concern, but felt like he was passed the point of redemption.
Can't defend Vernon here.
You should be a lawyer.
I think I remember reading somewhere that Vernon "cared enough" to always pick Harry up from the trainstation at the end of each year. Though don't know if this was ordered by his wife.
Didn't Dudley blame Harry after he saved him from the dementor?
@@MegaBumblebee666 I don't think Vernon gave a rat's ass about Harry. Petunia only made him agree to keep Harry because of Dumbledore's letter. Vernon even tries to throw Harry out, and when Petunia doesn't resist, Dumbledore sends a warning real quick.
Dudley is the only one who cared
I can't fully explain it, but I always remembered this scene being more heartfelt, as if the Dursleys really did love Harry, but tried protecting him (a bit overdramatically) out of fear of losing him.
Petunia almost had a moment.
Dudley, you the real MVP.
+The Lucky Low Key Loki Yeah, but she had a different moment in the book than in the movie, In the book she wants to say something but doesn't, JKR said that she was having a moment of realization that she would never see her sister's eyes again, but since she has this grudge for her sister she pushed the feeling aside. Petunia wouldn't admit to miss her sister because of that grudge so the behaviour in the movie is inconsistent with the book, remember that the dursleys are all about looks. So even if she felt it, she wouldn't say it.
DatArisShahDoe Magic got her sister killed. Its like women who hate motorcycles.
It makes me wonder if Petunia hated him because she knew in some way that Harry was the reason her sister died (Voldemort believing the prophecy) and he also got to be a wizard (Petunia wanted to be a witch especially since her parents favored Lily because of it).
Nyx & Hemera why would she still have a grudge against her after all this time? Even if Harry has her eyes, she is dead. There is no point in having the grudge to exist.
I feel like deep down Petunia cared for Harry, didnt love him, but she felt like she had to make it up to her sister who died thinking that her older sister hated her, when Petunia deep down know that Lily loved her, as she loved Lily
Although they grew up hating each other, it’s obvious that Dudley always felt that Harry was a part of the family.
at the end Dudley is not that bad as a person as Vernon is..... Dudley and Petunia are not totaly evil, they even love harry but they neglect to show it because of her envy towards the sister, that she can't forgive
I think people forget Dudley was abused in a way too. The way he was raised is not healthy. He was spoiled to the extent the doctor had to put him on a diet, his parents refused to admit he has any flaws whatsoever (despite no human being perfect) and he was made to be an accomplice to the abuse of Harry. Dumbledore even told the Dursley's they had done terrible damage to Dudley, right in front of him. He described Harry as lucky he had not suffered the same damage given his gifts with magic. The books describe Dudley as intensely in thought at Dumbledore's remark. It wasn't just the fact Harry saved Dudley's life that sparked the change in him. Dumbledore also contributed to his character growth by essentially telling Dudley: look what they made you to do and think.
@@walsh9080 When did Dumbledore made that remark?
I love the silent acting. The way Dudley keeps staring and turning back like he wants to say sorry or just something more profound to his cousin he believes he may never ever see again. but due to how toxic their relationship has been, how he was raised, he doesn’t know how.
Dudley was the only mature one I’m really proud of him
He was the MOST mature one. I wouldn't say that shows he's exactly mature at this stage. Pointing in the right direction towards being more mature, though :)
You gotta give Harry some credit here. Even after the amount of hell that he went through with the Dursleys, he made sure that they weren’t caught up in conflict.
Thunder Goku actually, the decision wasn’t made by Harry, it was made by the order
Keeping them safe was in his "interest".
I love how Dudley said Harry like a friend and he didn’t say him or the boy or Potter
Maybe not a friend...but no longer an enemy at least :)
It's a genuine Harry, Dudley doesn't know anything about Voldemort or the boy who lived etc, to him he's just his regular cousin, whom he loves. Not even Ron or Hermione have that love for Harry, they all only know he is.
It's honestly such a big theme of Harry Potter in general - children being products of their parents environment. You see it here, and you see it with Draco. Wish they kept this in
Brilliant comment. You see it also with Riddle, whose father never loved his mother, who used a love potion on him, and Voldemort consequently being unable to understand love. And also with Snape, who seemed to come from a troubled and possibly abusive relationship.
"i dont think your a waste of space"
"thanks"
*silence*
"see ya big D."
*therefore that scene was the best, i just wish they kept it.*
Didn’t they kinda become friends after they both got married?
@@LORDBEAR272 yes they did
@@seiso.1879 this makes me happy
@@LORDBEAR272 Sort of. According to the wiki they stayed on Christmas card terms. They also let their families hang out together.
Big who?
I love how Dudley shows that he does actually care for Harry and has matured instead of remaining spoilt and hateful
You know after so many years, so many movies when you used to see Dudley and his parents bully Harry, being mean and cruel to him, it makes you feel so positively happy when you see Dudley saying the most beautiful thing he ever said in a whole storyline and also Petunia talking to Harry for a few seconds and remembering her sister. I admit Harry Potter means a lot to me and am sure for many other kids that we grew up with his movies.
I'm not sure I'd call it a 'beautiful' thing but I would say it's probably the most REAL and most DISCERNING thing he's ever said. As for Petunia, we finally understand why she hates magic and the wizarding world as much as she does. From her point of view, first it came for her sister and won her over, and then it killed her, and seemed just full of war and evil and dangerous supernatural threats against which she and her family was powerless. You can see why she has such conflicting feelings in that light. Still, she chose to respond to that by going down a path of abuse instead of love. To choose love would have been so much better.
@@catherinesparkWell said
This scene is actually kinda sad you can tell Dudley really doesn’t wanna leave Harry behind and feels really bad for the way he treated him. Pay attention to how long he holds Harry’s hand almost as if he doesn’t want to let go because he means it’s goodbye
Made me cry 😢🥹
Favoritism doesn't just damage the "sibling" who is ignored, but also the one who is favored. Dudley is reversing the damage in his own mind, and that is a huge huge step.
This scene truly shows that Harry has grown up. He finally has the courage to stand up tochiw uncle who made his life miserable for the past 16 years of his life. He doesn't show his anger. He just stays calm, and doesn't let it get to him. This scene also shows that even though they still fought, Harry and Dudley still cared for each other.
I have two things to say......
1. First time Petunia said she had a sis
2. First time Petunia didn’t stop Dudley showing care towards Harry
I thinked after all she cared for Lilly and missed her though she woould not admit it of course.
@@sarahholtheuer5203 in the books she went as far as begging dumbledore to accept her into hogwarts, but she wasnt accepted. imagine your sibling living a completely different life than you, i can understand the resentment. while i can't forgive her for the way she allowed vernon to treat harry, he was far more abusive in the books to the point it sort of seemed petunia had little say. at most she stopped him from kicking harry out
First time she showed care for harry too
@@sarahholtheuer5203 you gotta think. She just found out about her sister then her kid appears l. She didn't have time to grieve. Maybe if harry hadn't come for a few months to a year things might have been different
@@lain2508 to me her hatred for harry was because he reminded her so intensely of her sister, and what happened to her. Finding out your sister was dead by the sudden appearance of your nephew with a letter explaining the situation, then having your sister's eyes staring at you for 11 years, knowing that 1 day he'd get to go to hogwarts, the school that rejected you as a child by basically saying "you're not special" would make most people less than hospitable.
"This isn't just goodbye, boy, is it? This is farewell." Damn, it hits different when he really farewell to all of us...
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The fact that dudley stands up to his dad and almost apologises to harry shows maturity that vernon didn't have
Why wasn't this in the movie! Such brilliant character development! I loved how JK Rowling morphed petunia and Dudley into people we could actually Respect. Just proves she's the best author of her time!
Along with that, I love what JK did with snape, too. I love how he was made to be the most hated but in the end we ended up loving him.
blackwolfoo1 That was not exactly intentional from what I understand XD JK said herself that she actually hates Snape and she called him sadistic.
Honestly, I don't know. I don't respect Petunia or Vernon at all, tbh. Petunia mourning her sister did give her more depth but that doesn't make all the shit they put Harry through okay at all, they did still abuse him and raise him without love, despite the fact that Petunia should take care of him after her sister died. So no, I don't respect Petunia.
Dudley, I think, I can respect a bit more because he was a young bully, raised to believe Harry was below him (like Draco). I still don't like him but he, out of all the Dursleys, was the best one - but still awful.
Far from the best author of her time (that right goes to Cormac McCarthy or Ian McEwan) but definitely a brilliant one. Her success is exemplary of the impact she's had on British culture, easily close to that of Doyle or Kipling.
Cortney Brown dudley sure, but petunia? Nope. She keeps being a bitch. She rejected her sister and lost her the day she did so and not on the night she died. She mistreated her orphaned nephew for being her sister’s child and a wizard as well. I don’t forgive her for that.
"You didn't just lose a mother that night in Godric's Hollow. I lost a sister." Although they cut this line out, this is one of the few changes that I like in the movie adaptations. Dudley's character arc is revealed better in the books, but this character arc never really happened in the books.
Dudley's defiance of his father as he maintains eye contact and steps over the lil barriers always makes my heart start to ache.
The dementor attack on Dudley has affected him massively, stopping him from being a bully into a compassionate person, not to mention that Harry saved him from it too
should have been in the movie this scene is heavy
Nah, it's not important, all it does is close a major sub-plot that has been present through every movie, and give a character an ending to his arc, it's totally not important
AnvilPro100 that... that sounds pretty important to me... and people would've loved this
Andrew Kim Sarcasm.
That like from petunia "you didn't just loose a mother i lost a sister " showing that she did care about Lily
I love how Dudley was a bully because of his father, but deep down he learned to have sympathy on his own. Such a powerful moment.
Yes, he didn't have it before, but he learned it :)
1:10
Well, you're the greatest sister ever. You've really shown your sister's son your love throughout all those years.
in a way whilst it is cruel the way they were treating harry they were protecting him
Vernon in the first movie says. we swore when we took him in we'd put an end to all of this They didn't have to take him in they could have left him at an orphanage but something within them said nah we're gonna take harry in
Harry says they'll torture you if you stay here
petunia says you don't think i know what they are capable of, you didn't just lose a mother that night in godric's hallow i lost a sister
the fact she knew what would happen and she was ready for it says a lot
okay if death eaters come knock i'm sacrificing myself to protect harry
I like this scene a lot. Petunia and Lily didn't have a great relationship, but deep down she did love her sister no matter how much she tried to deny it. She was jealous and mean, but she still loved her. And the parallels between their relationship, and Harry/Dudleys are really there. Dudley was raised to hate Harry, and he did. But eventually he came around, most people think it was because of the dementors, and I think that played a factor, but I also think just growing older and being able to think for himself more played a factor as well.
The dementors incident was the catalyst that sparked his character development. Rowling stated in an interview that Dudley didn't experience any traumatic memories per say while being attacked, but instead experienced every instance of himself being a spoiled egotistical brat all at once, finally allowing him to see just how much of a jackass he has been to the people around him. And he hated it. So he decided it was time to change.
You can determine if someone hates you to their highest level, keep their pride high (esp. for family) that they are trying hard to hate you, because they love you
It makes me wonder why petunia didn't snap on Vernon's sister when she essentially called lily a bitch
I love this scene, after all the years of watching dudley and petunia treat harry like total utter garbage they show respect and dudley is okay in my book after watching this. felt bad for him in a way and Idk why. but still this scene should have been in the movie.
Why did they take this out in the first place?! Ugh it makes me so angry!
Most scenes are removed for either time constraints or lack of connection to the plot. Sometimes, its budgetary or issues revolving other events.
Andy Shepard I know I was just saying.
MiddleEarthGirl Well,t his scene was never in the books. It was implied that Petunia wanted to say somethingt o this effect, but she never put it to words. They rpobably removed it to stay truer to the novel.
Jared Knight Actually, this was something similar to the book itself, only their departure was different and Petunia wasn't as cold or reserved as she was in the film
Andy Shepard Not as I recall. I'm in the process of rereading it right now, and as I remember all that happened was Dudley having that sweet moment, then Petunia going ga ga over it. Petunia started to talk, but then left without a word.
3:15 *Bolts inside the house and sends word out to the whole block for a house party*
2:30 Harry melling actor played is *Henry Wormwood* "What are you doing here? What have you been?" I loved this best actor portrayed ever
おじさん：
さあダドリー、早くしろ。
ダドリー：
ちょっとわかんないんだけど、なんで出て行かなきゃいけないわけ？
おじさん：
なんでって、ここはもう安全じゃないからだ！
おばさん：
この家には二十年も住んだのよ。それが、たった一夜にして出て行くことになるなんてね。
ハリー：
（出て行かなければ）どんな目に遭うか…あいつらは、おばさんが僕の居場所を知ってると思ったらどんな手でも使うんだ。
おばさん：
何をされるか、私が知らないとでも思っているの？あの夜ゴドリックの谷で、あなたは母親を失ったけれど。私だって妹を亡くしたのよ。
おじさん：
また会うこともないんだろうな。それじゃ、おさらばだ。
ダドリー：
なんで？一緒に来るんだろ？
おじさん：
誰が（一緒に来るん）だ？
ダドリー：
ハリーだよ。
おじさん：
そんなわけがあるか。
ダドリー：
なんで？
おじさん：
な、なんでって、そりゃあ、こいつが一緒に来たくないからだ！そうだろう、おまえ。
ハリー：
その通りだよ。それに、僕がいたって邪魔なだけだしね。そうでしょ、おじさん。
おじさん：
さあ、ダドリー。行くぞ。
ダドリー：
俺は、おまえが邪魔だとは思わないけどな。
ハリー：
ありがとう。…またね、ビッグD。
ペチュニアの話めっちゃ深くてなんか、凄い気持ちになるから、死の秘宝 ペチュニア編って調べると動画でてくるから概要欄と一緒に見てほしい
This was my favorite scene in the book. Shame it didn't make it to the movie, but at least we have this deleted scene.
As touching as this scene is, I suddenly remember in the book where Vernon was first reluctant to leave the house, thinking they would steal it, only for Harry to reply "Why would I want this house, for the happy memories?"
lol yeah also harry's rich af soooo
"You didn't just lose a mother that night in Godric's Hollow, you know. I lost a sister."
Your behavior for the last 17 years sure as hell doesn't reflect that, Petunia.
*Last 16
Well, she did protect him. And she did keep the blanket that Harry came in. She tried to shield him from the very dangerous stuff that got his parents killed.
Her and her family had a misconstrued belief that they could maybe bully the magic out of him
@@sastryvnk4402 she also starved, beat, and talked crap on his parents in front of him…..
@@criscabrera9098 I don't recall her beating him. But she was being unreasonable in how she took out her anger on him.
I laughed a bit too hard at "see ya big D...oh" and then Dudley getting his foot caught on the chain. Harry's soft little "oh" is probably what does it for me.
As weird as it is, I think deep down the Dursleys do care about Harry. I mean after all the fighting and everything they've been through they still always take him back. If they truly didn't care i don't think that they'd do that. They probably don't hate him so much as they hate magic since its caused them nothing but grief.
+Steve Ceja No, only Dudley did, because Harry saved him from the dementors, Petunia sees her sister in Harry but she has a huge grudge agaisn't her so she wont admit doing so, the movie scene is not consistent with her grudge, talking about her sister is something the character would never do, had she admited to care even the slightest about her sister she would have shown that to harry.
Also the howler petunia got which "remember my last petunia" which was basically lily reminding her if I forget what
No only Dudley, and he changed his ways because of the terror the Dementors instilled in him made him realize what kind of a Person he was and because Harry saved him. Vernon and Petunia were the same as always.
in the 5th book he saved dudleys soul anx dudley knows it...
They were afraid of Dumbledore so they kept Harry. You don't keep a child you love lockes under the stairs. You don't tell and orphan his father was a useless drunk. You damn sure don't starve a child and call it love.
This just shows you how kind hearted Dudley Actually is
When Good Parents has a Good Kid that's normal because they've taught to do so
But when Bad Parents has a Bad Kid then turned out to be Good Kid
That's extraordinary because the kid searching for the light alone
Well said. I agree, people who come from bad parents who somehow manage to try their best to be better than their parents… it doesn’t excuse any past bad behaviors, but man it’s impressive because most human beings aren’t independent enough in their mind and heart to be willing to veer from the path they think their parents have carved out for them
We all have lightness and darkness, it's what we chose to act on that makes us who we are. It's never too late to change.
Dudley developed his character and rised above his parents, showing Harry his regret for treating him the way he did and that he actually cared about harry. Beutiful scene
I wonder if Harry ever got back in contact with the Dursleys after the Wizarding War was over
Jessica Coyle he got in contact with Dudley
Most likely through online social media.
Andrew Toone yeah well after a few years.
I imagine that Harry did get in some contact with Dudley, but not Petunia and Vernon. They were actually more abusive to Harry than Dudley ever was, and plus... Dudley was only cruel to Harry because he was just copying his parents and was raised to be that way. Vernon and Petunia should not be forgiven for that shit!
they send cards on christmas they meet let their childrent play togother watching them Harry and Dudley site next each other but don"t talk much
I really like this scene. But I wish that Dudley would have hugged him. Or had some small bickering.
I wish that Vernon could have been a tad more polite. Maybe Petunia hugged Harry before she left the house.
frosty1130 no it’s perfect. This is the first time Dudley has ever shown concern, and it shows by him making a small remark that would have seemed trivial in normal circumstances but meaningful in this situation. Hugging would have taken it too far. Neither of them are at that level yet
I agree with Pisces, hugging wouldn't suit the situation. So they treated him like crap for 16 years and then suddenly they hug and all is forgiven? That would have been too much, and it would seem fake, like a forced happy ending. I think its great like that, Harry and the Dursleys part with at least some sign of respect for each other, which is the most they can offer after years of loathing and hatred
Harry should have just said avada kedavra mutha fucka and vernon drops dead while other family members cry watching his cold corpse
Director: I think this scene is a waste of space.
Me: *I think your a waste of space*
It is a waste of space
Harry misses the days when his biggest concern was Dudley
I find it funny how she's acting like "I lost a sister" when she treated her and her son like trash.
She is ashamed of herself and it was a way of telling harry that she in her own twisted way loves him and his mother
She did everything in jealousy
@@nabstergaming2859 stop making excuses bc it's just as toxic. Being jealous is no reason for abusing a child .
@@selfproclaimedesper778 no person has control over jealousy so i am not making excuses sometimes you do something which is a bad and you have regret over it even in the cursed child it was revealed that when she died dudley gave harry his blanket in which he came to her as a baby which showed that in her own twisted way she cared for him and loved him but refused to show it to him it can be said that it was similar to snape but snapes feeling was more because of tye love for his mother
She's a remorseful monster, that's the gist of it.
How could they leave this scene out? It changes the perception of Dudley completely. Shame. They better put it back in for the extended editions..
R.I.P. RICHARD GRIFFITHS
He played Vernon.
duh
I don't understand. Isn't he coming with us?
Along with Richard Harris, Timothy Bateson, Alan Rickman, John Hurt and Robert Hardy
@@cartoonman1570 And the guy who play Marcus Belby (killed in a fight when he was stabbed while trying to protect his younger brother).
I love this scene. IMO, Vernon is trying to save face even though he has a soft spot. Dudley is almost thankful to Harry the day the death eaters almost killed him. Petunia is almost understanding with what Harry has to go thru. WITHOUT SAYING MUCH, they wish Harry luck. Again personal opinion
Petunia: "You didn't just lose a mother that night in Godric's Hollow, you know. I lost a sister."
Harry: "You had plenty of years before she died to make amends. And after she died, you tried to make it up to her by treating her orphan son as bad as you treated her. Don't ever play the victim to me Petunia. And don't ever pretend to care about her."
Spot on. I wish harry said this.
in the books she went as far as begging dumbledore to accept her into hogwarts, but she wasnt accepted. imagine your sibling living a completely different life than you, i can understand the resentment. wish this scene hadn't been cut because it adds so much, that maybe petunia was devastated at her sisters death, while i can't forgive her for the way she allowed vernon to treat harry, he was far more abusive in the books to the point it sort of seemed petunia was allowed to say little, it was her afterall that stopped vernon from sending harry to the orphanage, and as vernon put it to petunia "i was too soft on you" infact she rarely even addressed Harry, apart from asking for laundry or giving him dinner. at most she stopped him from kicking harry out as well
No, from my pov, she was jealous of lily, she couldn't even hang out with her after she was accepted to hogwarts for 7 or more years. She begged Dumbledore, but always got rejected, she loved her sister but her jealousy made her mad. After her sister's death, she probably felt regret, making her hate herself, Harry reminded her of her sister because of his eyes, so she probably felt so much guilt that she had to put it on someone, Harry.
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Is that what the psycho JK wrote in the books? Seems likely. A reflection of her bitter and reductive depiction of morality and interaction.
Harry: "... also the wallpaper is horrendous"
Petunia: *GASP*
"Besides, you don't want to go do you, boy?"
"Absolutely not. And aren't I just a waste of space, Vernon?"
“ you didn’t just lose a mother that night In Godric hollow you know , I lost a sister” and “see you big D
1:10 and 3:04
1:18 : They really should've kept these scenes. Because it shows that Petunia, after all those years, still consider Lily as her sister.
This scene should have been kept!! It was super crucial to the Dursley's character development!
1. First time Petunia showed any emotion about her sisters death! "You didn't just lose a mother in Godrics Hollow that night, I lost a sister". She may have treated Harry like crap, but I think it was largely because of her husband. Vernon treated Harry like crap. We rarely saw Petunia show any type of emotional abuse towards Harry, we rarely saw her speak to him at all.
2. Vernon's facial expressions show true regret when Harry spoke the words Vernon so often said to Harry.
3. Dudley shaking Harry's hand saying "I don't think you're a waste of space", if that is not true character development I don't know what is. When I saw the movie skip this scene i was so mad! After reading the book I was actually expecting this scene!
She didn't have time to process it she got the news and then boom child appeared
Petunia wasn't afraid of Vernon, so she could have stood up for Harry at least once, but on the contrary, she constantly supported Vernon and looked at Harry like shit. She only gave the best to Dudley, and Harry only leftovers.
And here the director is trying to make us believe that she really misses her sister, although in the 1st film Petunia spoke unflatteringly about her and in the 3rd film calmly listened to how Vernon's sister insulted Harry's parents?
Hell no.
That scene with Harry and Petunia is actually underrated. It shows that she is actually somewhat human.
The Dementor attack in Order of the Phoenix has changed Dudley profoundly, having seen the horrors he inflicted on other children. That's why he's kind to Harry in this scene (and also why he's clumsy since he almost lost his entire soul that night)
I think the scene with Petunia was right to be deleted. That line doesn't solve anything she put Harry through. I guess they did sort of try to protect him. They didn't want him to go into the world his own parents were murdered. None of that excuses him sleeping in a cupboard for 11 years of his life, or been starved for days on end, never having a present, punished for just been a good child. None of that can be excused for the one line.
"You didn't just lost a mother that night. I lost a sister."
The scene with Dudley and Vernon however should never been deleted. It showed a young man that knows he's no longer under their control. He's now in charge of his life.
"That's what I am right Vernon? A waste of space?" That one line gave Harry a victory he wanted for the whole of his childhood. He knew Vernon would never say it. He knew the regret Vernon had. Dudley closing the car door and looking defiantly in Vernon's eyes. Like go on dad! I dare to say it! The crambling over the railing to get to Harry. Everything was just brilliant. It showed Dudley's growth as a young man too.
"I don't think you're a waste of space."
Too much about this scene was important to show Harry is now in control. Vernon has regret and Dudley is quite clearly sorry and concerned for his Cousin's safety and future.
Amazing scene. Who ever cut it deserves to be cruciod continuously for eternity and avada kedavrad when they finally get bored.