Ja helemaal doorgespeed ofzo, hoop dat ie ergens hulp vindt. Middelengebruik komt veel voor in het leger omdat het een onmenselijk concept is te strijden voor de hoge petjes. Dood aan de overheid!
Leuke video weer !! Casus 1) de benadering uhhh, conclusie: niet zo dus ! Casus 2) ja goed ! Doel bereikt! Casus 3) goed gedaan, zo als wij het ook leerden enkel heten het voor ons toen vredesbewaking. Komt op het zelfde neer, op de benen dus! 😉
Hoi, ik heb een vraagje. Laatst zag ik een man rijden in een ex marechaussee voertuig. Het rare was dat de bestickering nog op het voertuig aanwezig was. Mag je de bestickering gewoon er oplaten zitten?
Burgerpersoneel rijden ook in bestickerde voertuigen als ze een boodschap moeten doen of personen moeten ophalen e.d. Ze mogen alleen niet de optische en geluidssignalen voeren en moeten zich ook aan alle gewone verkeersregels houden.
Sinds ik niet specefiek goed ben in nederlands, zal ik al mijn gedachten en kritiek over deze video in het engels typen. (sorry in advance) At first be more kind to the person with the spray can, try to deescalate the situation. The person was clearly annoyed, and if you made them more annoyed there is a chance they would turn to offense, just clearly say what youre doing there and why youre there, and then try to deescalate the situation and arrest the person if nessecary. (the instructor also said this, but written before i heard that) Second, that was great handling, thats how youre supposed to do it. Third, never, ever, discharge a weapon into the air or somewhere where you dont know where the bullet will hit, be less agressive to the threat, try to deescalate the situation, angering the threat is never a good idead.
Third, it's a warning shot, the suspect wouldn't listen to the commands given, which forces them to go to step 2 and try to warn the suspect if he gets closer they'll use force. They let off a warning shot, to warn him they are not afraid to shoot him and will actually do it, he chooses to ignore it once again and so they shoot him in his leg. The 'regular' police is way slower in letting of a warning shot, but since this is the military police, specifically the HRB which stands for 'High Risk Security', they protect buildings of high risk, they are quicker to use force due to the added risk. They are trained and taught to handle in this order and also think about what they do, it's not recklessly done. Luckily it rarely happens that they have to shoot, but there's no way to safely deescalate the situation if the suspect is holding a knife (with intention to murder, as told in the video) and is walking towards you. I hope this clarifies some things for you.
I do know that that was a warning shot, Regardless, that bullet can land somewhere and damage/kill someone, less lethal force should be used if the suspect isn't cooperating. This will eliminate the chance of an innocent person getting hurt or killed, and should have the same effect as firing a warning shot on the suspect. HRB Would not stand for "High risk security" since security doesn't start with a B. In the case where there is no time to try to get the suspect to cooperate, a shot can be fired at the ground, or at the suspect in a non-lethal area e.g. the foot, hand (if not held infront of other body parts) or lower leg (e.g. shin). This will hopefully get the suspect to cooperate/show them you're not afraid to use lethal force to neutralize them. In the scenario where a person with a melee weapon has the intent of killing you, using firearms to neutralize the armed person is reasonable, and definitly if they're walking towards you. Tell them to put the weapon down and if they do not cooperate, you will open fire. My first comment may have been unclear as in my intentions and what I was trying to say, this should clarify my point.
@@sunshinecoco12 The odds of someone being hit are low, but not 0. However, the rifling arc is the deadly part, if they shoot straight up it's LESS lethal. They are trained to shoot straight up instead of infront of them. HRB stands for 'Hoog Risico Beveiliging' I merely translated it for you to English, in which it is 'High Risk Security' Shooting at the ground is way more dangerous than shooting in the air, because popular to contrary belief, the bullet has a high chance of ricocheting off the concrete, it can also ricochet off soil. Also shooting in the hand is nearly impossible, it takes quite some skill and precision to shoot in a hand. As for the foot, the bullet will most likely penetrate the foot, which could cause him to lose his ability to walk on said foot. The leg is the best bet due to its size and easy accessibility for a tourniquet. I'm not sure where you're from, but in The Netherlands we are very strict about carrying weapons (You can check the "WWM", Wet Wapens en Munitie) Anyone carrying a weapon will be treated as a serious threat. The police, regardless of the function, are taught to handle like this in a situation involving a (possibly) deadly weapon. Fun fact: Every weapon is assumed to be real, until researched by a weapons expert.
It appears my last reply didn't clarify everything, so I will retry to do so. I recall michiel not shooting directly upwards (which is pretty hard to do in the first place because you don't have the time to use a level or something like that) In that case say HRS This depends on alot of factors, it depends on what material the area you're firing at is made of, the angle you're firing at, and the direction you're firing at, in this scenario the person firing could've shot to their right if nobody was standing there (obviously there was a camera crew to the right, but there wouldnt be in an actual scenario) shooting into the berm or ground would: 1. reduce the chance of the projectile being deadly in the first place in the case it doesn't ricochet. 2. in the case it does ricochet, it wouldve lost alot of energy, whereas firing it into the air, it would maintain most of the energy as potential energy at the apex of the trajectory. (also its contrary to popular belief, as in, a great amount of people believe something that isn't true) I know shooting the hand is nearly impossible, but if the oppertunity is there, it will render that hand pretty much useless, making it much harder to actually use weapons, but if the oppertunity isn't there, then shooting the leg is the best option. Dutch law is quite strict on selling, making transporting, and carrying weapons. Knifes aren't as strictly regulated as actual firearms. (This law is very stupid but for some reason you're allowed to have an airgun that has more energy, a higher firerate, and a greater magazine capacity as an AKM, but you're not allowed to have a .22lr pistol.) Anyways, you're right, every weapon is considered a real weapon. Some people have even made real firearms look like nerf or lego firearms, look up "Block 19" for example. I hope this clears everything up and no further clarification is needed.
@@sunshinecoco12 My apologies, that’s what i meant to say, English isn’t my main language. Your message is something i can definitely agree on. Luckily it rarely gets to the point where shots need to be fired, because the paperwork is absolutely atrocious. You also need to have a conversation with the OvJ, Officier van Justitie, to talk about the situation and if you rightfully used your firearm, i’m not sure if its also as in depth in other countries.
@@dionkre je identificeert je met een identiteitsbewijs niet een legitimatiebewijs. Een legitimatiebewijs is om te bewijzen dat jij legitiem jouw functie uitoefent (politiepas, toezichthouderspas, advocatenpas, etc.). Een politieagent of een andere opsporingsambtenaar/toezichthouder mag aan een burger vragen zich te identificeren (identiteit vast stellen) en jij mag dan aan die politieagent e.d. vragen of hij zich kan legitimeren. Een agent hoeft zich niet te identificeren maar wel te legitimeren
Onze allerbeste Michiel dient het een beetje rustig aan te gaan doen...
Ben benieuwd wat hij gebruikt
Blijft een bikkel!💪
Beetje verschil tussen internationaal en nationaal
Ja helemaal doorgespeed ofzo, hoop dat ie ergens hulp vindt. Middelengebruik komt veel voor in het leger omdat het een onmenselijk concept is te strijden voor de hoge petjes. Dood aan de overheid!
Mooi werk heren! Leuk om dit zo in beeld te zien.
Bedankt voor je leuke reactie!👍
Ga je ook komen werken?
Deze video is heel informatief
Die Toyota's van de HRB zijn wel gaaf!!!
Het verschil tussen groen en blauw haha
Prachtig 🥹
Marechaussee is Groen & Blauw tegelijk. Zijn militairen met politietaken
Het verschil is dat de hrb daadwerkelijk dingen doet en groen eenheden alleen maar oefeningen draaien
@@user-lu9nq4cj4i😂 ja hoor maat. KL lost nog altijd meer live munitie op mensen dan KMar HRB
@@n0visual541 het hoogte punt van een carriere bij de kl is litouwen en dat is echt heel erg triest
3 dagen geleden gesolliciteerd 💪🏼
Waar?
Ik denk bij de kmar. 😉
Ik ongeveer 2 maanden geleden, succes maat.
Ben al 6 maanden in dienst.
Beste keuze ooit.
Leuk om te lezen! 💪👍
Wauw
Leuke video weer !!
Casus 1) de benadering uhhh, conclusie: niet zo dus !
Casus 2) ja goed ! Doel bereikt!
Casus 3) goed gedaan, zo als wij het ook leerden enkel heten het voor ons toen vredesbewaking. Komt op het zelfde neer, op de benen dus! 😉
Bedankt Pieter!
Bij eerste twee cassusen twijfelachtige vraag om ID, en die gast ziet eruit alsof ie aan de speed zit
Leuk op BHV Waalsdorp, goede herrineringen daar
💪
Ibc was ook een ondersteunende tak van beveiliging
Wat is het nummer bij 8:19?
Hoi, ik heb een vraagje. Laatst zag ik een man rijden in een ex marechaussee voertuig. Het rare was dat de bestickering nog op het voertuig aanwezig was. Mag je de bestickering gewoon er oplaten zitten?
Dan denk ik niet dat dit een ex-voertuig was.
Was waarschijnlijk gewoon een huidig voertuig.
Was het wel een ex voertuig? Wie zaten in het voertuig? Welk voertuig was het? Weet je het wel zeker?😊
Burgerpersoneel rijden ook in bestickerde voertuigen als ze een boodschap moeten doen of personen moeten ophalen e.d. Ze mogen alleen niet de optische en geluidssignalen voeren en moeten zich ook aan alle gewone verkeersregels houden.
Opzouten richting Oekraine graag
Is dat rotterdam?
Iedereen zijn eigen specialisme lekker mannen goed bezig groetjes
Welke burger jas had Michael aan
Zou Carinthia kunnen zijn denk ik. (Arc'teryx LEAF is natuurlijk da bomb 😊)
To video zeg ik
Need to fix you beret there! :)
Michiel deed de eerste casus in mijn ogen ook prima. Niks softe aanpak. Grote bek tegen iemand in uniform, dan moet je gewoon opzouten!
De burger betaalt wel het salaris van de militair, dus beter wordt deze wel met respect behandeld
Sinds ik niet specefiek goed ben in nederlands, zal ik al mijn gedachten en kritiek over deze video in het engels typen. (sorry in advance)
At first be more kind to the person with the spray can, try to deescalate the situation. The person was clearly annoyed, and if you made them more annoyed there is a chance they would turn to offense, just clearly say what youre doing there and why youre there, and then try to deescalate the situation and arrest the person if nessecary. (the instructor also said this, but written before i heard that)
Second, that was great handling, thats how youre supposed to do it.
Third, never, ever, discharge a weapon into the air or somewhere where you dont know where the bullet will hit, be less agressive to the threat, try to deescalate the situation, angering the threat is never a good idead.
Third, it's a warning shot, the suspect wouldn't listen to the commands given, which forces them to go to step 2 and try to warn the suspect if he gets closer they'll use force. They let off a warning shot, to warn him they are not afraid to shoot him and will actually do it, he chooses to ignore it once again and so they shoot him in his leg.
The 'regular' police is way slower in letting of a warning shot, but since this is the military police, specifically the HRB which stands for 'High Risk Security', they protect buildings of high risk, they are quicker to use force due to the added risk. They are trained and taught to handle in this order and also think about what they do, it's not recklessly done.
Luckily it rarely happens that they have to shoot, but there's no way to safely deescalate the situation if the suspect is holding a knife (with intention to murder, as told in the video) and is walking towards you.
I hope this clarifies some things for you.
I do know that that was a warning shot,
Regardless, that bullet can land somewhere and damage/kill someone, less lethal force should be used if the suspect isn't cooperating. This will eliminate the chance of an innocent person getting hurt or killed, and should have the same effect as firing a warning shot on the suspect.
HRB Would not stand for "High risk security" since security doesn't start with a B.
In the case where there is no time to try to get the suspect to cooperate, a shot can be fired at the ground, or at the suspect in a non-lethal area e.g. the foot, hand (if not held infront of other body parts) or lower leg (e.g. shin). This will hopefully get the suspect to cooperate/show them you're not afraid to use lethal force to neutralize them.
In the scenario where a person with a melee weapon has the intent of killing you, using firearms to neutralize the armed person is reasonable, and definitly if they're walking towards you. Tell them to put the weapon down and if they do not cooperate, you will open fire.
My first comment may have been unclear as in my intentions and what I was trying to say, this should clarify my point.
@@sunshinecoco12 The odds of someone being hit are low, but not 0. However, the rifling arc is the deadly part, if they shoot straight up it's LESS lethal. They are trained to shoot straight up instead of infront of them.
HRB stands for 'Hoog Risico Beveiliging' I merely translated it for you to English, in which it is 'High Risk Security'
Shooting at the ground is way more dangerous than shooting in the air, because popular to contrary belief, the bullet has a high chance of ricocheting off the concrete, it can also ricochet off soil.
Also shooting in the hand is nearly impossible, it takes quite some skill and precision to shoot in a hand. As for the foot, the bullet will most likely penetrate the foot, which could cause him to lose his ability to walk on said foot. The leg is the best bet due to its size and easy accessibility for a tourniquet.
I'm not sure where you're from, but in The Netherlands we are very strict about carrying weapons (You can check the "WWM", Wet Wapens en Munitie) Anyone carrying a weapon will be treated as a serious threat. The police, regardless of the function, are taught to handle like this in a situation involving a (possibly) deadly weapon. Fun fact: Every weapon is assumed to be real, until researched by a weapons expert.
It appears my last reply didn't clarify everything, so I will retry to do so.
I recall michiel not shooting directly upwards (which is pretty hard to do in the first place because you don't have the time to use a level or something like that)
In that case say HRS
This depends on alot of factors, it depends on what material the area you're firing at is made of, the angle you're firing at, and the direction you're firing at, in this scenario the person firing could've shot to their right if nobody was standing there (obviously there was a camera crew to the right, but there wouldnt be in an actual scenario) shooting into the berm or ground would:
1. reduce the chance of the projectile being deadly in the first place in the case it doesn't ricochet.
2. in the case it does ricochet, it wouldve lost alot of energy, whereas firing it into the air, it would maintain most of the energy as potential energy at the apex of the trajectory.
(also its contrary to popular belief, as in,
a great amount of people believe something that isn't true)
I know shooting the hand is nearly impossible, but if the oppertunity is there, it will render that hand pretty much useless, making it much harder to actually use weapons, but if the oppertunity isn't there, then shooting the leg is the best option.
Dutch law is quite strict on selling, making transporting, and carrying weapons.
Knifes aren't as strictly regulated as actual firearms.
(This law is very stupid but for some reason you're allowed to have an airgun that has more energy, a higher firerate, and a greater magazine capacity as an AKM, but you're not allowed to have a .22lr pistol.)
Anyways, you're right, every weapon is considered a real weapon.
Some people have even made real firearms look like nerf or lego firearms, look up "Block 19" for example.
I hope this clears everything up and no further clarification is needed.
@@sunshinecoco12 My apologies, that’s what i meant to say, English isn’t my main language. Your message is something i can definitely agree on. Luckily it rarely gets to the point where shots need to be fired, because the paperwork is absolutely atrocious. You also need to have a conversation with the OvJ, Officier van Justitie, to talk about the situation and if you rightfully used your firearm, i’m not sure if its also as in depth in other countries.
Es feo buuuuuuuuuuuuu L noob ci ci ca ca lol ez loser es loser
1ste
Jij krijgt een sticker!!
“Ik wil je legitimatie zien”? Je bedoelt identiteitsbewijs.
Nee?
@@dionkre je identificeert je met een identiteitsbewijs niet een legitimatiebewijs. Een legitimatiebewijs is om te bewijzen dat jij legitiem jouw functie uitoefent (politiepas, toezichthouderspas, advocatenpas, etc.). Een politieagent of een andere opsporingsambtenaar/toezichthouder mag aan een burger vragen zich te identificeren (identiteit vast stellen) en jij mag dan aan die politieagent e.d. vragen of hij zich kan legitimeren. Een agent hoeft zich niet te identificeren maar wel te legitimeren
@@dionkre Ja
@@G4x5da ok boomer
@@-timothydexterthegreatestp5391 ben by far geen Boomer. Alleen, als je als autoriteit verkeerde documentatie vraagt mag je daar best wat van vinden.