Regarding Pixie Farmer: It makes sense because the Farmer only passes if they are killed in the night; if the town had executed the farmer, the Pixie Farmer would be a real farmer if they had claimed to be a farmer enough before then.
More specifically, this was mentioned as well during that conversation but got shouted over a bit, the Pixie's ability ends: "you gain their ability when they die." In other words, even if killed at night, once the Farmer dies, the Pixie gains their ability. So Mark did have the Farmer ability, he just didn't die at night. Had he died though and he hadn't been poisoned at the time, Sheep would have become the Farmer and learnt this. Yes, this means there can be TWO alive players who know they are the Farmer, if both the actual Farmer and the Pixie Farmer died at night.
Rewatching this, and I forgot how much of a goldmine this game was. Puzzledrunk goon? Debbie as cere?? Callum's refusal to accept we were good after that klutz pick?? Not to mention the satisfying solve that we were puzzledrunk, the social read on both minions before they were outed to us, and how funny seeing mark navigate all that madness was. Top tier shit
Callum claims Klutz and (passionately) picks Patters. Amazing game. I don't think I'd ever tire of Patters Perspective games, but this was an especially funny game. I think you were secretly the Fortune Teller or stole the Seer role from Werewolf with how much you were calling things out this game. 🔮
I think Goon/Lleech would be solved easily by changing the wording of the Lleeches Ability from "If the host dies, you die" to "If the host is dead, you are dead" It technically means the same thing while allowing a drunk/poisoned Lleech to live without a host untill they are either killed or stop being drunk It would basically treat a goon drunk lleech with dead host like a self poisoned lleech just that the ability suppression is external not internal It would also lead to cohesion between self poisoned lleech and a poisoner for instance hitting the lleech
This video was made a while ago. The way that that interaction has been figured out to work now is that if the lleech chooses a host, and then is droisoned when the host dies (making them not die), the lleech chooses a new host the following night at the start of the night and play continues as normal. Obviously, if the lleech is droisoned, that means they can die during the day, so the lleech is never actually "invincible" other than some possible edge cases. IIRC, the only way for the lleech to be "invincible" now is for the lleech to be droisoned, then for their host to die, then for the source of their droisoning to die after the host does. Then you have an immortal lleech until the following night, where they choose another host. But the cases where that can happen are rare
@@codewordbw3340 yeah, this. Idk if this is technically the wording at this time, but just in general I would settle that if at night there is an alive Lleech without a host, they HAVE to pick a host. This also resolves the Lleech interaction with the Scarlet Woman, the Pit-Hag, and the Summoner, as well as of course the Lleech Host dying while the Lleech is droisoned. Just on a Lleech script, check at dusk: Is there a living Lleech? yes. Do they have host? no. Then wake Lleech and make them pick a host.
I was wondering as well. I think it’s that this script is made where each role a replacement for a TB role. So DA is replacement for SW because extra life, GF is replacement for Baron because adds outsider, etc.
Regarding Pixie Farmer: It makes sense because the Farmer only passes if they are killed in the night; if the town had executed the farmer, the Pixie Farmer would be a real farmer if they had claimed to be a farmer enough before then.
More specifically, this was mentioned as well during that conversation but got shouted over a bit, the Pixie's ability ends: "you gain their ability when they die."
In other words, even if killed at night, once the Farmer dies, the Pixie gains their ability. So Mark did have the Farmer ability, he just didn't die at night. Had he died though and he hadn't been poisoned at the time, Sheep would have become the Farmer and learnt this. Yes, this means there can be TWO alive players who know they are the Farmer, if both the actual Farmer and the Pixie Farmer died at night.
Rewatching this, and I forgot how much of a goldmine this game was. Puzzledrunk goon? Debbie as cere?? Callum's refusal to accept we were good after that klutz pick?? Not to mention the satisfying solve that we were puzzledrunk, the social read on both minions before they were outed to us, and how funny seeing mark navigate all that madness was. Top tier shit
Callum claims Klutz and (passionately) picks Patters.
Amazing game. I don't think I'd ever tire of Patters Perspective games, but this was an especially funny game.
I think you were secretly the Fortune Teller or stole the Seer role from Werewolf with how much you were calling things out this game. 🔮
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I think Goon/Lleech would be solved easily by changing the wording of the Lleeches Ability from "If the host dies, you die" to "If the host is dead, you are dead"
It technically means the same thing while allowing a drunk/poisoned Lleech to live without a host untill they are either killed or stop being drunk
It would basically treat a goon drunk lleech with dead host like a self poisoned lleech just that the ability suppression is external not internal
It would also lead to cohesion between self poisoned lleech and a poisoner for instance hitting the lleech
This video was made a while ago. The way that that interaction has been figured out to work now is that if the lleech chooses a host, and then is droisoned when the host dies (making them not die), the lleech chooses a new host the following night at the start of the night and play continues as normal. Obviously, if the lleech is droisoned, that means they can die during the day, so the lleech is never actually "invincible" other than some possible edge cases.
IIRC, the only way for the lleech to be "invincible" now is for the lleech to be droisoned, then for their host to die, then for the source of their droisoning to die after the host does. Then you have an immortal lleech until the following night, where they choose another host. But the cases where that can happen are rare
@@codewordbw3340 yeah, this. Idk if this is technically the wording at this time, but just in general I would settle that if at night there is an alive Lleech without a host, they HAVE to pick a host. This also resolves the Lleech interaction with the Scarlet Woman, the Pit-Hag, and the Summoner, as well as of course the Lleech Host dying while the Lleech is droisoned.
Just on a Lleech script, check at dusk: Is there a living Lleech? yes. Do they have host? no. Then wake Lleech and make them pick a host.
Nicely solved.
What is this 2B Code Ste was talking about?
I was wondering as well. I think it’s that this script is made where each role a replacement for a TB role.
So DA is replacement for SW because extra life, GF is replacement for Baron because adds outsider, etc.