There are two eternal truths in Commander videos. 1) In all games that Serge participate in, he will draw the most heat by just being Serge; and 2) no one remembers to shuffle their X Sun's Zenith cards back into their libraries, when they cast them.
same same!! I watch a lot of Commander content because it can be a lot of fun, but honestly, this has the least amount of toxicity with the Magic: The Gathering contect creators I love most.
@@frostownik I mean, that's not everything. I don't think there's any toxicity between, say, the members of the Command Zone, but their hyperbolic reactions and overedited style of their gameplay videos feels patronizing, like regular magic gameplay and table talk isn't inherently interesting enough on its own so they gotta jingle the keys to keep eyes on the screen. People liking the game and each other is certainly a key aspect to creating chemistry and making a series work, but it's far from the only thing LRRMTG gets right.
26:00 I thought James didn't play commander with them cause he retired champion after that time he beat Matt Wiggins, and then again when he couldn't find his spider commander.
29:23 fun fact about gisa and geralf's family: Mikaeus (the bishop who puts +1/+1 counters on your stuff and more famously the zombie who grants all your nonhumans undying) is their distant relative! Their parents are definitely dead though. I'm not sure how they died but Gisa raised them as zombies.
Y'know, for the sheer enthusiasm Serge has for playing with wild brews, whether or not they blow up in his face, I'd put him in Izzet more than selysnea
On the subject of Gisa and Geralf, they had a short story during shadows block in which Gisa, as a stab against Geralf for being "mom's favorite," sends their mother as a messenger zombie to him over the course of their correspondence where they continuously try to one up each other.
Serge, you strike me as a person who loves interacting with a welcoming community. Selesnya it is! Molander will be happy to welcome you. I love EDSC! I fell asleep watching the Canlander FNPF and was watching it when I woke up only to have UA-cam announce this. I immediately slammed over here and smashed that like button. We had Iron Commander (store hands out 3 random legends and you have 3 hours to dig through their chaff to build a commander deck) at our flgs this weekend and it attracted some new players. I mentioned LRR as content creators to watch and in particular Serge because he's so nice and really embodies knowing the rules without being a jerk and enthusiasm for the game.
I mean selesnya is less a welcoming community and more, you know, a cult. They've been playing this aspect down on the latest sets but originally they brainwashed and indoctrinated many of their followers, disallowed leaving to the point where if you did you were automatically an eternal enemy (check out the flavour text on the guild gate) and had assassins killing enemies and dissenders. Oh and their ultimate goal was conquering all of ravnica and establishing a theocratic state. Thats what populate was, them growing their army enough to take on everyone else In og ravnica almost all the guilds were evil, with only boros and izzet being good. The former as they seemed to be the only ones careing for the wellbeing of actual citizens and the later because it just runs infrastructure and does weird experiments. Perhaps the golgary arguably too if we really stretch it. Nowadays they've really played this aspect down after the dissolution and re-emergence of the guilds
@@Dracinard this is like the 5th time the store has run it. 3 hours to build, 2 hour and a half rounds with a meal break in between. It's a long day, but it's always a blast.
I love my Emmara deck! Serge got shutdown hard though. Everyone having a 2 mana creature and he didn’t draw any of the ways to tap her without attacking, plus all those wraths. The deck has performed a lot better for me than it did here
I recently had great success with Emmara. I got 8 tokens up to 11 power each in one turn, and OHKO’d the life-gain player across from me with 88 damage (then gained 33 life, because 3 tokens were the Lifelink Soldiers). My opponent took it well. By the way Serge, give Emmara Presence of Gond, and gain two tokens per tap. It’s great. It’s how I built up my forces.
I appreciate showcasing the four other decks considering most people only cared about the always-sold-out Gruul Atarka starter commander deck. I am definitely interested in the Dimir one now.
The Dimir deck is pretty fun. I always liked Zombies, but regret that they’re not a green tribe (my favorite color). Oh well. Get a copy of the Undead Unleashed precon from Innistrad: Midnight Hunt for a SERIOUS upgrade. Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver-the face commander-is STUPIDLY good. #2 Dimir commander at EDHREC, in fact.
Fun fact: Debaser was written about a film professor I had at UMass, who Black Francis had had many years prior. They still get coffee together sometimes out in Amherst.
All hail the youtube algorithm so here's my comment. Luv that serge left white suns zenith in the graveyard because i did exactly the same on friday when i played my soundwave deck even though blue suns zenith is one my favourite cards. Luv the content as always
I'm a little disappointed that no-one asked what encore does for a second time. :P A small note about the editing: I'm personally not such a big fan of the "today on EDSC..." part. It feels like a trailer for a movie I'm already about to watch. If it really does raise engagement and allows LRR to make more content, then no worries, but I wanted to mention it in case I'm not the only one.
Maybe, since EDSC is sponsored outside of UA-cam, you can just omit the beginning and end ads so that you be more relaxed about hanging out together. Then you won't have to worry about demonetization.
How about an EDSC with people not totally into EDH just playing around and talking crap. Have the heavies in another room watching remotely only able to communicate with tweets or messages on bits of paper. I could see Ben grabbing the monitor shouting “you fool” as Beej doesn’t maximize his value on a play.
Just sat down with some food and was looking for something to watch... this is going to last a lot longer than my food, but that is a problem I am happy to have!
The gameplay with those decks would just be meh, but the tabledrama makes this good enough to watch at 1.25x speed! (I'm over 40, can't watch videos this long at 1x [road quest is an exception])
Does anyone know which commander game Serge put a Kitchen Finks in a mono-green or white deck? Or is it just his pet Canlander card? Anyway that's why he's Selesnya, along with his adorable hiccups.
Im glad to see this game continues the beautiful tradition of live play commnader games not shuffling there sun's zentih into their decks after casting them XD
At first, I thought Serge's type should have been the Isperia deck because Isperia is a judge and he is a judge...but then I remembered that Beej is actually the supreme judge of LRR and now I just want Beej on a future episode playing that deck
i have a kardur doomscourge deck and its affectionately dubbed "second place" because its never gotten less than second place (in my friendgroup) forcing people to fight for my entertainment lol
I'd like to add to the cannibal tangent most countries, including canada, don't have specific laws against cannibalism assuming this alternative universe had the same laws as we do you would not be charged with cannibalism anyway but things like murder, desecration of a corpse or assault
There are two eternal truths in Commander videos. 1) In all games that Serge participate in, he will draw the most heat by just being Serge; and 2) no one remembers to shuffle their X Sun's Zenith cards back into their libraries, when they cast them.
Only GSZ gets shuffled, the rest simply hit the bin.
Like keyworded in social club rules?
@@Sugarman96 nope, all of the sun zenith cards say shuffle back in to your library.
@@jesselittle1964 Right, tone doesn't get communicated. I'm saying GSZ is the only one people actually remember to shuffle.
@@Sugarman96 ah, ya tone really doesn't translate well in text form.
this is, no exaggeration, my favorite pre-recorded paper magic content.
same same!! I watch a lot of Commander content because it can be a lot of fun, but honestly, this has the least amount of toxicity with the Magic: The Gathering contect creators I love most.
biiiiiiig same
turns out if you like the game and the people you're playing with, your content will be great!
@@frostownik I mean, that's not everything. I don't think there's any toxicity between, say, the members of the Command Zone, but their hyperbolic reactions and overedited style of their gameplay videos feels patronizing, like regular magic gameplay and table talk isn't inherently interesting enough on its own so they gotta jingle the keys to keep eyes on the screen.
People liking the game and each other is certainly a key aspect to creating chemistry and making a series work, but it's far from the only thing LRRMTG gets right.
Enjoyed it. Would have been nice if 2 of the players weren't effectively locked out (Grav Shift, mana issues).
26:00 I thought James didn't play commander with them cause he retired champion after that time he beat Matt Wiggins, and then again when he couldn't find his spider commander.
Ah he comes back to play when needed for plot needed
29:23 fun fact about gisa and geralf's family: Mikaeus (the bishop who puts +1/+1 counters on your stuff and more famously the zombie who grants all your nonhumans undying) is their distant relative! Their parents are definitely dead though. I'm not sure how they died but Gisa raised them as zombies.
1000 ways to die, on Innistrad
Y'know, for the sheer enthusiasm Serge has for playing with wild brews, whether or not they blow up in his face, I'd put him in Izzet more than selysnea
He just as often, if not more, plays oppressive prisony decks or equipment, that's very White.
Hot take: nit selesnya, but ABZAN
I'd put him in Boros tbh
Bant for the molander, bant lands, wu control. Not aggro enough for red, not goth until he's behind the counter serving people their grinds.
Tbf selysnea isn't a very sane faction
13:43 - matt, that overlay change is beautiful and hilarious 😄
The word Ben is looking for for his deck is "Group Slug".
This felt like the alternate timeline where everyone teams up against Nicol Bolas and still loses. Lmao. Ben went ham! (Elf ham, even!)
Loving this series.
50:59
Serge: "Alright so Murder, is on the table." 😅
James playing paper magic - a somewhat rare but always welcome sight
Surely Serge is Selesnya just so he can actually put Kitchen Finks in his decks
On the subject of Gisa and Geralf, they had a short story during shadows block in which Gisa, as a stab against Geralf for being "mom's favorite," sends their mother as a messenger zombie to him over the course of their correspondence where they continuously try to one up each other.
Haha Kathleen just dead-ass: "We're going to win." is a whole mood.
Serge, you strike me as a person who loves interacting with a welcoming community. Selesnya it is! Molander will be happy to welcome you.
I love EDSC! I fell asleep watching the Canlander FNPF and was watching it when I woke up only to have UA-cam announce this. I immediately slammed over here and smashed that like button.
We had Iron Commander (store hands out 3 random legends and you have 3 hours to dig through their chaff to build a commander deck) at our flgs this weekend and it attracted some new players. I mentioned LRR as content creators to watch and in particular Serge because he's so nice and really embodies knowing the rules without being a jerk and enthusiasm for the game.
That is such a good idea… where is this cool LGS that has Iron Commander? :)
@@itslexactually Battlegrounds Abington, Massachusetts
I mean selesnya is less a welcoming community and more, you know, a cult. They've been playing this aspect down on the latest sets but originally they brainwashed and indoctrinated many of their followers, disallowed leaving to the point where if you did you were automatically an eternal enemy (check out the flavour text on the guild gate) and had assassins killing enemies and dissenders.
Oh and their ultimate goal was conquering all of ravnica and establishing a theocratic state. Thats what populate was, them growing their army enough to take on everyone else
In og ravnica almost all the guilds were evil, with only boros and izzet being good. The former as they seemed to be the only ones careing for the wellbeing of actual citizens and the later because it just runs infrastructure and does weird experiments. Perhaps the golgary arguably too if we really stretch it. Nowadays they've really played this aspect down after the dissolution and re-emergence of the guilds
That sounds like a really cool idea. How did it work?
@@Dracinard this is like the 5th time the store has run it. 3 hours to build, 2 hour and a half rounds with a meal break in between. It's a long day, but it's always a blast.
I’ll never not love Serge holding the card up level with his face and squinting at it
Dissenting Opinion - If you examine the mob farms Serge builds in Minecraft, you will discover that his best fit would be the Orzhov Syndicate.
Wowza! The late game with Ben's deck is insanity.
One of the best endings to a commander game I've ever seen. Love this episode!
You guys do the best edh content on the internet. Thanks for making fun stuff for us to watch!
I gasped in delight upon noticing this in my subscription feed 😄 can’t wait to see what unfolds this month!
I love my Emmara deck! Serge got shutdown hard though. Everyone having a 2 mana creature and he didn’t draw any of the ways to tap her without attacking, plus all those wraths. The deck has performed a lot better for me than it did here
Same the emmara deck can go wild fast i once have attacked with about 20 tokens in turn 5.
I recently had great success with Emmara. I got 8 tokens up to 11 power each in one turn, and OHKO’d the life-gain player across from me with 88 damage (then gained 33 life, because 3 tokens were the Lifelink Soldiers). My opponent took it well.
By the way Serge, give Emmara Presence of Gond, and gain two tokens per tap. It’s great. It’s how I built up my forces.
That ending was so fun! Wonderful content as always
It's time for everyones favorite segment, Cannibalism Tangent!
I appreciate showcasing the four other decks considering most people only cared about the always-sold-out Gruul Atarka starter commander deck. I am definitely interested in the Dimir one now.
The Dimir deck is pretty fun. I always liked Zombies, but regret that they’re not a green tribe (my favorite color). Oh well.
Get a copy of the Undead Unleashed precon from Innistrad: Midnight Hunt for a SERIOUS upgrade. Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver-the face commander-is STUPIDLY good. #2 Dimir commander at EDHREC, in fact.
Ben did a great job winning in style in a fun way even as a super-arch-enemy
Fun fact: Debaser was written about a film professor I had at UMass, who Black Francis had had many years prior. They still get coffee together sometimes out in Amherst.
All hail the youtube algorithm so here's my comment. Luv that serge left white suns zenith in the graveyard because i did exactly the same on friday when i played my soundwave deck even though blue suns zenith is one my favourite cards. Luv the content as always
I'm a little disappointed that no-one asked what encore does for a second time. :P
A small note about the editing: I'm personally not such a big fan of the "today on EDSC..." part. It feels like a trailer for a movie I'm already about to watch. If it really does raise engagement and allows LRR to make more content, then no worries, but I wanted to mention it in case I'm not the only one.
Also not a fan
Excellent, as always. Thank you.
My favorite part of the video was, as always, the cannibalism tangent.
Maybe, since EDSC is sponsored outside of UA-cam, you can just omit the beginning and end ads so that you be more relaxed about hanging out together. Then you won't have to worry about demonetization.
That was really enjoyable to watch, love a good edh match. Ben really went ham with his deck!
James in EDSC? Heck yeah :) I love people who are immune to politics in EDH!
How about an EDSC with people not totally into EDH just playing around and talking crap. Have the heavies in another room watching remotely only able to communicate with tweets or messages on bits of paper. I could see Ben grabbing the monitor shouting “you fool” as Beej doesn’t maximize his value on a play.
Serge is able to choose whatever Guild he wants. And this game was really a beat-around with the Group Slug deck doing work.
That was a super fun episode!
I really enjoy watching EDSC. Thanks for making this 😊
Just sat down with some food and was looking for something to watch... this is going to last a lot longer than my food, but that is a problem I am happy to have!
Love how it goes from Ben playing his favorite card to Kathleen then playing my favorite card!
1:21:49 highlight reel!
More EDSC, pretty please? We simply need more than one episode a month.
I think Gisa and Geralf's parents are depicted in Ever After, a 6 mana sorcery from SOI
I love that this episode of Elder Dragon Social Club has Brave New Faves playing in the background. So many awesome musical winners in here
I love these episodes, they're amazing!
Tangents are the best part of any conversation, especially the strange tangents
I am so happy that you guys keep making these one. It is so great to watch. Thank you also is there a elder dragon Social club card to join :)
'Gisa & Geralf' seems real interesting after watching the 'March of the Machine First Looks'.
"white sun zenith goes to the graveyard" it's so funny hearing these words. you play canlander serge! you shuffle your GSZ all the time!!
Definitely was rooting for a land on that final flip 😂
Graham is Naya
Kathleen is Esper
Serge is Bant
Ben is Jeskai
Adam is Sultai
Cameron is Grixis
Idk about the rest
Ben calling out Serge" What can I do?" Kathleen with that cold combat trick murder. Best EDSC Game.
1:13:00 "Wait, you think that saves you? *Evil laugh, evil laugh*"
"Yes, it does?" "It does!"
"... What does it do?"
Serge is definitely Selesnya! All the times he put Kitchen Finks into edh decks confirmed it xD
I realize it was for the sake of brevity, but seeing White Sun's Zenith in the graveyard hurts my soul.
I love Ben’s genuine joy when he made that first draw
Engagement for the engagement gods! Praise Heather for the upload!
Delightful as always!
The gameplay with those decks would just be meh, but the tabledrama makes this good enough to watch at 1.25x speed! (I'm over 40, can't watch videos this long at 1x [road quest is an exception])
That may be my favorite EDSC ever 😍
The intro is still so good!
Serge is absolutely the Selesnya type. WotC should make him the face of their new Selesnya centaur or elf tokens whenever those come out next.
As the premier land pilot of canlander, he should give lands crew 1.
and this way he still gets to play kitchen finks without breaking the commander rules again
That may be sooner than you think
Does anyone know which commander game Serge put a Kitchen Finks in a mono-green or white deck? Or is it just his pet Canlander card? Anyway that's why he's Selesnya, along with his adorable hiccups.
If you are going by dice friends Serge, you are Rakdos. Don’t you love a good coffee?
The best part about that ending is that James was going to die to Sign In Blood no matter what he chose
Im glad to see this game continues the beautiful tradition of live play commnader games not shuffling there sun's zentih into their decks after casting them XD
Grave Danger was my first ever precon!
What a delightful game to watch!
You don't need us to tel you Serge, just take Cameron and Kathleen's thorough "What Guild Are You" quiz.
Oh sick, I needed an excuse to buy more stuff from CardKingdom! 😁
The Cannibalism Tangent graphic got me good.
I love engaging with this content!
What a game lmao, loved the ending 😂
Serge is the most Selesnya person I've seen on the internet.
Also you can legally play Kitchen Finks in this deck.
boongle the doongle
engagement for the engagement engoongle
What an ending!
"TAKE TWO DAMAGE, TURNER!"
I would say that Serge is a Selesnya who occasionally experiments with Golgari.
Y'all are awesome!!
At first, I thought Serge's type should have been the Isperia deck because Isperia is a judge and he is a judge...but then I remembered that Beej is actually the supreme judge of LRR and now I just want Beej on a future episode playing that deck
LRR Commander content is always a lot of fun. But WOW, were these some profoundly mismatched decks. o.0
I think Gideon's catchphrase would be "He\She\They Must Be Stopped!" but He-Man's lawyers would have issued an injunction.
I was unfortunately tilted by white suns zenith not actually getting shuffled back into the deck.
i have a kardur doomscourge deck and its affectionately dubbed "second place" because its never gotten less than second place (in my friendgroup) forcing people to fight for my entertainment lol
Doors don't tell me where to go they're just portals, Mouthy portals.
So I bought all 5 for Christmas, and without a doubt, the demon deck and the dragon deck stomp the other 3.
Serge… you are 100% selesnya. Think of the tree
Hell yeah, Rakdos for the win! Let’s go!
Fun times thank you
Going through the sewer, no sweat, the locked door, easy, but why was there a bathroom attendant, who coughed and awkwardly pointed to his tip jar?!
White sun zenith shuffles back into the library on resolution btw.
Technically James Died to Sign in Blood, which is always fun when that happens
I wanna get Ben's deck and get the entire thing altered to be Muppets themed now...
I’m not gonna tell Serge how he identifies in the world of Ravnica, but I also agree with Ben’s interpretation.
James “Legally Distinct Cannibal’ Turner
Sad to see that there is no artaka, i love some gruul stompy. but was an amazing game and super enjoyable!
I'd like to add to the cannibal tangent most countries, including canada, don't have specific laws against cannibalism assuming this alternative universe had the same laws as we do you would not be charged with cannibalism anyway but things like murder, desecration of a corpse or assault
Very fun game to watch
DEBASER! (love the show)
If that'd been a third land, I may have overdosed on pogging.
My LGS is currently selling Zendikar Rising precons for 20€, whereas these starter decks cost 28€.
Make it make sense.