3 Reasons to NEVER use Fusion! - Blackmagic DaVinci Resolve Tips
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Okay, there are a couple reasons why someone might not ever use Fusion, but I would like to address those reasons and why they can easily be thrown out the dang window!
So sit back and let the Fusion complaining begin. And heck, maybe this video can convince you that maybe, JUST MAYBE, Fusion ain't all that bad!
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Very good points.
The nodes thing initially put me off as well, but thanks to your videos, I took the leap and never looked back. So much better.
Great video 🙌 I cant help feel like we need at full tutorial with Dr. Fusion 🤞😁
Yes. This exactly why I switched from Adobe Pr and AE. 100% agree with Casey here.
Reason no 4: There are no precomps, like cmon, who doesn't like precomps inside precomps inside precomps where your hundreds of elements are hidden. And when you are working on big complex projects with hundreds of elements and when you need to iterate or troubleshoot something, you'd have to dig deep for hours by opening so many precomps, such a painless workflow and figure out the connections between elements and precomps individually checking one by one, sounds like fun to me.
Reason no 5: Fusion doesn't have destructive workflow. Like who wants non destructive workflow, in Fusion you build complex VFX/motion graphics with big node trees and then you can swap the initial input and have all of the nodes work procedurally, who wants that? I wanna redo everything every time, sounds way more fun to me.
Reason 6: Fusion gives you full control over the 'order of operations' of the nodes, that's too much to handle and not artistic even tho it's vital for creating complex VFX/motion graphics. After effects doesn't let you change the order of operations, each layer is processed in the same order and you can't change that, that's artistic. You can't apply transform adjustment before layer mask, for that you'd have to create another layer and use that as track matte, more work, more artistic.
Reason no 7: Fusion is too flexible, like please my brain can't handle that, I want constraints because we all know creatively thrives in a box. Fusion lets you have a birds eye view of every things you've done so you can quickly go back to any stage and make necessary changes, that's just not artistic for me, I want everything to be hidden inside layers and precomps. Fusion lets you use one node in multiple places and have it influence multiple things at the same time and can visually see it like masking out multiple nodes one one mask but in AE you'd have to manually link that and there are so visual representation (AE has composition flow chart but it's pretty useless), that's artistic.
Fkn hilarious. Please more comments like these
@@8lec_R 🤣🤣
Another Reason: No much fusion UA-cam tutorials available so far. You are the best in it❣️Daily I search for fusion UA-cam videos, but it’s very few and also if there are something, nothing comes closer to your clear explanations and tutorials, great work 👍👏keep going, I want more motion graphics and 2d character animations tutorials❤️❤️🙏please
Most advanced Fusion tutorials are over a decade old and they are basically hidden under YT search but if you search for specific things, you can find it. Although that's not a exclusive problem for Fusion, other pro compositing software like Nuke, Flame etc suffers from the same problem.
@@rano12321 yeah bro, exactly 👍👏❣️
I appreciate this video. I do exactly what you described by just sticking to what I'm comfortable with but this got me excited to try some new stuff in fusion. Thanks Casey!
Would love to see a tutorial on how to copy and paste keyframes inside of fusion... It works so well in AE but somehow I can't wrap my head around how to get it work in fusion. Thanks for you tutorials Casey!!!
you select them and then press crtl + c and then you move to another frame and then you paste ctrl + v.
I find fusion super complicated because I dont even know where to begin when I have an idea which nodes I need to use and in what order they need to be. And when that node tree starts growing it just starts to look very complicated. It's like having to decipher some puzzle in which you don't understand all the pieces involved how to use them and where to use them.
Its exactly Like that, even after watching some tutorials, when I try to Start something myself nothing seems to Work, the Logic how to combine nodes in which order evades me
you need to start with the basics. Casey has some great tutorials for beginners. it's like learning math. you need to learn basic arithmetic, addition and subtraction before you move onto algebra. start with only basic nodes in fusion and dont move on until you fully grasp the concept of nodes. I promise you it gets MUCH easier after this. once you go nodes you will never go back to layered compositing.
@@smepable each node has an input and output. its very simple. start with a single clip in your timeline in resolve, right click on the clip and "create fusion clip" then go into fusion and youll see the two nodes, one is your clip and the other is an output. click on your input (which is your clip) and add a text node. the network will be created and youll have text over your clip. once you get the concept it will become clear. good luck
Working entirely in Resolve instead of Resolve & After (Or Nuke) is the reason why Autodesk Flame is still king for online finishing. The only thing Flame doesn't have is the fact that 90% of grades are being done in Resolve. So that's one roundtrip less if someone decides to edit, conform, VFX, grade and finish in Resolve.
I'm late to the video editing party. I 've never used Premiere and After Effects. Retired and wanting to learn something new and fun (and FREE) So I jumped into Davinci and it's been a lot of fun learning this platform. Looking forward more growing and learning.
I used to export my shorts and use capcut to do subtitles. What a pain moving it back and forth! Way easier to just do it all in Resolve now. Also it just saves me so much time
Thanks Casey! And love the funny bits too.
Actual reason not to use Fusion is that gnarly UI. I wonder if those that made it actually ever edited anything ever.
Thanks Casey. Good points! I just love using Premiere and After Effects together though... 🙂
Talking about AE... one thing that I think is cool is that for a specific element so many things can be found right there (Specially the Solid & Border values). So I actually did a little experiment and built a little something for the Shapes in Fusion. I called it "Better Shapes" 😅 Sharing it tomorrow for anyone that wants to check it out 😉
great info, thanks
As someone who uses both and has for awhile, I rarely tend to integrate after effects with davinci resolve extensively, I will say though the biggest benefit of after effects is how easy it is to use tools like photoshop and illustrator to actually design and "draw" your scene whether it's for motion graphics or character animation, creating complex scenes with shading and lighting and gradients is so much more difficult in resolve than in AE. Lovely video either way!
Once you learn nodes like Fusion, you'll stop using anything layer based. Once you go nodes, there's no coming back. Layers would feel super unintuitive and illogical. I don't even touch Photoshop anymore as everything inside Fusion makes logical sense and anytime I use layer based software, my brain stops working because it's not logical like Nodes.
@@rano12321 as someone who uses both nodes and layers i woudn't say it was so extreme personally, I used layers a lot growing up in photoshop and I started video editng using hitfilm express, then I after a year switched to premiere pro and after effects then I switched to davinci resolve, I would say I am well accuainted with both of them but Fusion simply lacks the flexibility that makes AE so good at motion graphics, Im well accuainted with both of them but in all practical senses (other than using expressions and custom controls) you are limited to the parameters available within each node, whereas in after effects you can manipulate shapes and objects with much more flexiblity, especially with the amount of scripts available.
Very good points.
Im also in transition from Adobe (After effects, Premiere pro, Audition, Media Encoder, Bridge, Rush,.........🥵) to DaVinci Resolve.
i think it's the best choice to be more and more efficient.
💯Casey
For us folks coming from Final Cut Pro, you might want to highlight Apple Motion as well. I’ve been a motion user since day one and it is very powerful for motion graphics. So coming to Fusion has been a learning experience!! Love all the tips.
Thanks
I like that you aren't quite so overly excited these days. I like that you are now just a regular happy guy who likes what you're doing. It seems a little less artificial this way.
tbh, the main issue is that is that absurd editing power requires absurd processing power. I can endlessly pay a Adobe for something that runs easy, or use something WAY stronger than needed because it's free. Like using a sledgehammer to hang a picture because it's what I have lying around. Just OPENING fusion can freeze the program for a good few seconds. And playing back an effect? even when cached they might lag, a nightmare when your edits are often frame-by-frame and NEED precision. But since giant powerful things like Fusion are Resolve's main edge, they're always focused on that.
Make sure you are over the recommend specs or else you wouldn't have a good time. Resolve utilized multithreading and gpu whereas most of codebase of premiere relies on one thread which is fine on lower end computers but it doesn't scale well when add more cores and gpu.
@@rano12321 I am well beyond the recommended specs. Though I often need other programs running at the same time, certain things lag even with nothing else open. This isn't just a me thing, pretty well documented weakness of Resolve.
@@maromania7 what's the pretty well documented weakness? Do you have a minimum of 32GB RAM?
I love your videos, Very helpful!
I am wonding if you can make a video or maybe even direct me to another video on how to export HDR footage from Davinci Resolve with either Dobly vision or HDR10+ that is supported for youtube. Personally I am grading on the newest macbook pro.
This is less Fusion and more colour management so check out Darren Mostyn and Cullen Kelly. These two know their onions.
you need to set up your "project settings" and check "dolby vision" first thing before you start.
Reason #3.1 - I like paying a subscription forever to Adobe (even when I'm not using their programs). Clearly you get what you pay for so a free program must have no value.
The one thing I still don’t use Fusion for is animating vector files like a client’s logo. I know you can import SVG files into Fusion but a lot of times they don’t play nicely. Animating a logo is usually a one time thing and I just export the alpha so I can use it wherever I need. I really wish Fusion could get to a point to where it can be more user friendly with vector files and natively import them. And I’d really like to see them revamp how text is done too. It’s rather cumbersome.
❤ Casey the *Scientist* 😁
You are the type of a teacher who make jokes during class to make student awake 😅😅
You should use the MultiMerge Node, there you have layers like in AE. And please Casey, make some tutorials about the MultiMerge Node.
Came here to say the same 😅
Im actually not a fan of multi merge. I can't recommend it, sry.
It's like they wanted to shoe horn in layers for all the layers people, but it doesn't really make sense to do it that way.
It really makes things unnecessarily complicated and takes away the philosophy of nodes.
@@CaseyFaris I do respect that but on occasions Ive actually found ways to do things I cant normally do with merge nodes in particular when I need multiple foregrounds for one singular part of a composition, instead of having these giant node trees the multimerge has cleaned my workflow up ammensely
For sure. Sometimes is helpful. Iv'e used them for similar situations. @@JuptOfficial
Okay, Casey. I'm never going to use Fusion or DaVinci Resolve again! (Yeah.... right.) Guys, honestly, I'll never use anything else other than DR with the Media page, the Edit page, the Fusion page, the Color page, the Fairlight page, the Delivery page and all that for free! I think, as weeks go by, you'll see more and more people dropping the (other) software and finding DR. I'd love to show you stuff I've created but this is Casey vid.
I love nodes ❤
1:42 moment was funny lol 🤣
Reason #4 - No click bait videos to trick you into using Fusion. 😊
“Trick” you into using Fusion. Ok bud.
I am used to Blender's nodes now, I kind of like the flexibility of working with nodes.
yeah, once you go nodes its hard to go back to layered comping.
The 3 main reasons to avoid the Fusion page are performance, performance and performance.
I have 32GB RAM, a current gen i9, 3070Ti and 2 SSDs but Fusion still can't cope with real-time playback and crashes all the time just from doing simple things like a magic mask and a couple of videos behind it.
The Color and Edit tabs are many times faster and slightly more stable than Fusion.
I get much better playback if I use layers on the edit page rather than merge nodes in Fusion.
What kind of monster system do you have that you're able to actually use Fusion without even the simplest of things being an overnight render? 🤣
Speaking of fusion, Is there a bright line rule about when you should create a new fusion clip before going to fusion versus when you can just go to fusion with your regular clip?
If you're gonna reuse it. Id probably make a fusion clip then.
Where are these growing communities located on the web? Asking for a friend of course, I can make my own stuff. 😜
I've got a question about fusion that i simply couldn't find an answer to. If for example i do a Friday Night Funkin style video or anything else where i make for example custom arrows in fusion with the squares circles etc. and connect the final object to a duplicate and play with the TimeOffSet so that i don't have to repeatly place the same arrow just with slight offset it happens in the end that i run into an issue -> stuttering and lag in playback.
I'm relativly new to DaVinci and doin something like this where i create an arrow in fusion and make it move from bottom to top and make it disappear doesn't sound that hard to achieve but i simply can't get rid of that lag in the playback. What i would like is to keep stuff like this as a macro so that me or other people can simply use it for their own good without having to download extra media for it.
Maybe there are some settings i missed to change but it shouldn't be that hard to get 24 fps in the playback, instead of stuttering 11-17 when trying to play the effect in the edit. Having the studio version and good graphic card as well as other components so from that side it shouldn't be that big of a problem.
Does anyone might have some answers on how i could improve this kind of stuff so the playback isn't shitty af?
Arrows are just an example here, overall i would like to know what is the limit of stuff you can create inside fusion until your playback gets broken.
Also eliminating objects isn't a thing and just shrinking a arrow doesn't make it disappear in the end for the program just to understand that concept, right? Cause i could have tons of duplicates, set units to 0 and it still would lag while theoretically it doesn't paint anything on screen, i just idk i don't understand fusion enough ig
Imac 2017 64gb ram 4 gb radeon pro graphics 1tb ssd enough for davinci resolve 18? Please answer me. I want to buy 2nd hand
Awesome video, but I was distracted by the INCREDIBLE artwork on the wall behind you. Please be more mindful when deciding where to hang your masterpieces, so you don't distract us!
I have a question - whenever I add text to a project it turns extremely slow/laggy. It does not seem to matter what kind of text or even if it is non animated. This is the only real issue that bothers me when trying to transition to Resolve from Adobe. Any solution to this?
Thet was fun
Why shouldn't I edit the whole video in After Effects?
After hearing this, I will never ever, Not Not use Fusion again. Word!
they should have a master class on nodes.
They do on their YT channel. They have a lot of videos.
Nothing uses layers except Adobe products, everything is nodes!
Reason one: it’s the least optimized piece of software I’ve ever come across. The simplest graphic grinds the whole project to a halt. Meanwhile, I zip into Apple Motion, do whatever I want and export it in the time it takes Fusion to recover from thinking about working for once. It’s not an ideal workflow, but when you need 10x the power to run the same thing in Fusion that’s running effortlessly in Motion, I start factoring in electric bills and upgrade costs.
One of the biggest hurdle with Resolve + Fusion is that high system requirements, these softwares were used to cost thousands of dollars and was only used to make really high end movies. There are videos that are decade old where people where running full Hollywood level comps with hundreds of nodes in realtime on GPU, no software still can do that. Fusion is a whole another program that shoved inside Resolve which is why it has a high system requirement. So if you don't have a good computer, you're not gonna have a great time working in Resolve with Fusion and if you're doing complex projects with hundreds of nodes, then you'd be better off using the standalone version as it takes a lot less Ram and processing power to work. Make sure you have caching settings turned on otherwise it's not gonna cache.
How can I connect 2 or 3 polygon nodes?? With a merge nothing comes nothing out of my MediaOut. Number 1 works when I connect it to MediaIn
Yes you can, and when you do you can also change the paint mode (how they react to each other).
@@DairyAirGunners where is the paint Mode in the Merge Node?
@@KamikazeGerman :The paint mode is in the Polygon inspector when you use more than one. Polygon nodes don't use merge nodes. they mask media, background nodes, which in turn use the merge nodes.
@@DairyAirGunners Thank you so much. When I use a merge node, MediaOut only comes out black. Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong
You plug polygon nodes into each other. They each have a paint mode.
*Isn't this a re-upload?*
Seems to me blackmagic needs to up its in house training game, or outright pay some competent trainers to provide affordable training for it. Want to make more Resolve users? Make Resolve and Fusion training more accessible. That's what Apple did with FCP and the only reason FCP isn't still dominating the editing market is Apple killed it on their own. Make a more cost effective and user friendly software and make learning it accessible and🎉 everyone wins. Want to kill the Premiere/After Effects domination? Then remove the Fusion frustration and the edit world will run to Resolve so fast your head will spin. Better hurry before Sora AI kills editing altogether.
What about nuke?
Practically same but it has more advanced VFX tools but almost no motion graphics tools. It's also like $6k a year, the Nuke studio one.
Layers, bah! We are the People of the Toast.
Reason number 4: You really enjoy paying a monthly fee for the privilege of using After Effects.
😂😂😂lleessggoo!!!
People who don't use Fusion need more toast in their lives...just sayin'
Could certainly make toast on my computer when running Fusion. I see your point.
@@stickgarrote8582 you might wanna just get a new computer then
With that level of sarcasm, are you sure you're not British?! 😅
I haven't even watched the videos yet. Here's betting that the three reasons are if you never want to do any of these cool things.
Sometimes clickbait isn't when it's so obvious that it's a joke
All the reasons not to use Fusion are THE VERY reasons TO use it. 😅
Casey: Really not all video needs all that FANCY Crap/Stuff. Maybe a Title or two but that's what Fully adjustable Title Assets are for. Videos Like I do (TOY R/C Model Planes) all those Transitions and Special Effects just Distract from the Story. Meybe Silly things Like a Weeiner Dog Canon Video Well nuf said fer I's getts me in troubls wif thems U Tube censors.
Sneaky way of getting people to watch this video. Bonus for the third reason: you can stop paying for After Effects. 👍
Clickbait in the best possible way - the only way i love clickbait!
Another reason: Davinci Resolve takes too much laptop battery.
Plug it in.
@@rano12321 But what about my laptop health, battery health.
@@shubhamvyas9459 you can't play games or do anything resource intensive tasks on laptop without being plugged in. That's how laptops work, especially windows laptops. Resolve uses your GPU and GPUs on windows laptops take a lot of power to function at properly. You can replace batteries in future or don't buy laptops in future. Get desktops.
@@shubhamvyas9459 you can replace batteries on laptop. Or else don't get a laptop
That wasn't French.
Okay, smart guy.... I hate nodes. I hate working with nodes. I have absolutely no creativity when working with nodes.... now what?
Exactly, nodes are not artistic. I need the constraints and destructive workflow of layers to be creative. Nodes are for nerds.
With the Type of Videos I make, Those FUSION things just Distract from the STORY. Lables/text Messages are that's required to Claifery my story. I'm not Firing Weinner Dogs into Space. Now do I make CRAP videos like that.