Elvis was 25 but that doesn't make any difference it still wasn't talked about and the shit is all bs and racist. You got Steven Tyler ArrowSmith, Jerry Seinfield, Bill Wyman, Rene' Angelil, Don Johnson
Not EVERY GIRL can be sucked in by pedophiles/predators (R Kelly) but sometimes a 17 year old girl who doesn’t have a dad or brothers or any family for that matter but some do. When a 30 year old famous, rich and admired man (R Kelly at that time) offers a 17 year old CHILD with no family or home attention, money and other things, the girl is bound to fall in love and become trapped.
Don't be so quick to judge....... cause if you're 17 , then it's within reason that your mom is only 34 , 35 herself . Okay , so that means that at that age , she could still be hanging out in the streets herself , right ? ... Or she could be a single mother working 2 or even 3 low wage paying jobs . Just to pay the bills and take care of her kids all by herself . So when your 17 year old son or daughter starts lying to you about their whereabouts . It's not always because the mother wasn't a good mother . It could be that she was just so busy with everything else to follow up on it . Believe it or not this happens more than people realize or care to admit to .
@@sunflowerthegoddess1737 So what are you trying to say.. she still did it whether or not the parents were there. And nowadays its normal for so-called single mothers to blame the fact they are doing everything when they made the decision to have the child or sleep with the dude to begin with.. no accountability. So this girl is doing her thing with no accountability as well.. when will these girls take responsibility for their sh!t for decision making.. The dick is needed to the point they will go against it if it isn't friendly? There is too much confusion.. simple put, folks have made bad decision and continue making it the rest of their lives.. and nothing but a trail of fukk ups which other ppl have either used, reproduced off of, tripped and fell over, got addicted over it.. what good has come from it? One thing out of how many other horrible happen stances.. You judge folks decisions, but if they are still alive they will have to deal with it while trying to do right IF IF IF that is their end game. Anyone can judge anyone as long as they are willing to take the same pill they judge someone else with and suffer the same scrutiny as well. Until then.. one should refrain from judging.. I grew up knowing girls liking older dudes.. shit that was a normal thing, so whatever comes from that is their own fault..
Snuff Daddy Nigga what country do you live in? It’s 18 round here in America fuck outta here 🤣☠️ niggas be thinking we in Canada where u can be with a partner within 5 years of age
@@Maxxroad People who werent around pre internet really don't understand this. The whole Aliyah thing was more like urban legend than something to investigate. Nowadays he would be toast!
@@ThirtyThreeHipHop I was alive. I had a Vibe Magazine subscription. The marriage certificate was in an issue. This wasn't an "urban legend" to anyone who could read or kept up with entertainment news.
OK, I get it...but she willingly did this right??? Meaning going on the road living with him, not telling her mom what's up at first etc. That's the part I mean IDK what 30 yr old man wants a 17 yr old kid. SOME parts of her story are 🙄😑🤔
@HAWK in Asia your right. But asking her thoes personal questions about if her dad was in her life and shit like that. He asked that because he was tryna see if he could pull her away from her family. Its about more than sex. It's about the control. The man is sick. Since it's so "legal" are you out her tryna pick up 17yr olds?
@@Flash_1689 bro if a 15 year is WILLINGLY WILLING & ANOTHER 15 IS NOT WILLINGLY WILLING. Thats a BIG difference. I ain't SAYING Kells a innocent nigga but those two things are different and should be treates as such.
Im 29yr old and the thought of having to lisen to a teenage girl talk in my ear🤮🤮😥😪.. R kelly is a strong man.. i got nuthin to say to any girl under 23..
U will be surprised there are plenty of young girls with no guidance hoeing around at a young age why if u have daughters need to be in there life raise them properly!
Vlad tv mostly covers news that are relevant to hip-hop culture and R&B.....so WHY would he have Woody Allen on?🤔🤔..yeah..Woody IS a dirtbag as well..but at least he NEVER recorded himself kissing on a underage girl..and mind YOU Woody IS a movie director..#FuckWoody #FuckRKelly
When he asked her was 17 legal in her state and she said YES. INTERVIEW WAS OVER!!!!! What we need to be doing is focus on the LAWS and why is THE AGE OF CONSENT 16 YEARS OLD IN 30 STATED. I mean WHY IS THAT??? You know why? Because men, ESPECIALLY THE WHITE MEN WHO MAKE THE LAWS, dont think there is anything wrong with sleeping with someone 16. Yes I think a 30 plus year old man who wants a 16 or 17 or 18 and 19 year old for that matter, is SICK, the truth is, IT IS NOT ILLEGAL. And every women I know have had controlling men. R. Kelly being a 'BAD BOYFRIEND" is NOT enough to convict him. PERIOD!! The media is SATURATING our minds with a lot of R. Kelly news that dont have ANYTHING to do with his current charges. If I was R. Kelly I wouldn't get a jury trial I would get a bench trial, because unfortunately jury's go by emotions and not the law. GOING BY THE LAW, YOU CANT CONVICT SOMEONE FOR BEING A BAD BOYFRIEND OR ELSE AT LEAST 85% OF ALL MEN WOULD BE IMPRISONED AT ONE POINT IN THEIR LIFE. SO UNLESS THEY CAN PROVE THAT HE SLEPT WITH UNDERAGE CHILDREN AFTER HIS LAST TRIAL IN WHICH HE WAS ACQUITTED, HE'S GOING FREE.
Well said! Do you think these women are adding in the not being fed or chained up situation? I'm not saying that R Kelly did nothing wrong, but I do think it's not just R Kelly in the wrong...I think the parents are just as guilty.
No doubt, I’m only 25 and I couldn’t see myself talking to a women 20 years of age!!!! Not that there’s anything wrong with that age gap but I was completely different 5 years ago!!!!! I wouldn’t date myself at 20 😂😂😂😂😂
I looked it up and the legal age of consent is 17 in Illinois.So she just went along with him at 30. But now some how shes been abused. Something fishy going on.😒
If you put your arm in fire will it burn? These chicks were willing as long as they were being taken care of. Can’t keep feeling sorry for ppl who are gluttons for pain. At some point she made choices, FOH.
That's all she's been doing. A while set of lies. That's why when she testified against him in court they told her she was a liar. Bitch was a grown ass woman screwing this alleged 14 year old.thats the real reason she got immunity. Lying heffa
Minors can be so impressionable. I can't believe she's not in jail. She said it was fun at first but stayed with him, brought her daughter around him. She was in it for the money and lifestyle. I can't stand to see women playing the victim roles, when they were fully aware of what went on and played apart in everything. Despicable.
Emotional abuse and gaslighting is a real thing. Stockholm syndrome is real and these girls are showing clear signs of emotional distress and confusion. This is not a blame and shame game but rather an opportunity for us all to bring darkness to light for our future babies. Parents or no parents this alone educates our babies on what's right and what's wrong. This story has saved many young children from predators. No man or woman should be allowed to violate a child 0-18. Further more 21 is still an age that love, nurture and guidance is needed. this new generation will make sure of that. Amen. Many people will have opinions and that's great. Those survivors need to know that they will be called liars and fake. The most important thing to remember is the truth sets you free. So fly little birds and let go of the heavy burden you have been carrying for years and for every hater you have ten thousand beams of love and light shining on you that's an honest promise. ❤️
Latoya Ward she knew better! Think back when you were 17 or 18 honesty a rich man would give u certain motives( money, better lifestyle and celebrity) she knew better I know me being 30 I knew better, and wanted what I wanted.
I just found an old Essence magazine article where Lisa Van Allen says her birthday is in June and she turned 18 in 1998... Wikipedia has Home Alone coming out August of 1998. Normally they release the song before they shoot the video. How can she be 17 at the video shoot?
But she knew he was older she didn't have to call him when he gave her his number its not like he kidnapped her smh theses chicks want you to have sympathy for them cause it didn't go how they thought it would its like a game crying and complaining when you lose but when you winning its all good smh
Thank you! She waited a month to call him, yet saying why would a 30yr have interest in a 17yr old? Why call him? Why take the 300$ if you get tht on your job? C'mon! Now, she knew exactly what she was doing. Choices ppl, 😄 these girls too extra!
You are 1000 my friend What they really ashamed of is how far they was willing to go to get what they wanted That s what they want noone to know that So they come with the victim playing All of them They all doing this
Lakeisha exactly...she a WHOLE lie 😐 no way your HUSBAND messing with that many chicks and you see the cameras and tripods and all that mess laying around and u not NOT “KNOW ANYTHING “ baby bye! She just closed her eyes to it bc I’m sure he was not hiding it!
True but u knw state of GA your consider a aldult which mean she could leave anywhere anytime. so i guess momma been like go bring that money home for us baby
Accountability, he gave you $300 and that made you stay. Im telling you, this is unreal! I love the person asking questions... keep catching these tricks trying to trick
@@NOCDIB then to top it off you other there doing threesomes. He was working the hell outta they body's and giving them change. At 17 I was to into money.... He probably would have jump on cause off the muscle I would have let it be known I'm worth more than $300... These girls didn't have no kind of self love or valuing they self's....smdh
gary corr that's sad, im almost 50, no one could have given me $300. Had me leave ny life. I have been attracted to older guys, if I was 17 , older maybe 20. I would've been disgusted if a older man hit on me.! Superstar or Not! I have actually blown off opportunities to be with more than two people that are now millionaires!
Another pointless video frim r.kelly willing young Thots. This just as pointless one the one with arizel and jocelyn acting interview. No need to lie just sat you did it and went along with it cause.....it R.KELLY
Goes both ways eh? The thing is one asked for sex and the 17 year old agreed. The victim card is always in use after 10 years the incident happen that’s when all the thots can strip them for all their money
@@flygirlmetaphysics5049 Again we put the blame on these women, but nobody said anything about the mf who set up her flight to fly out to Chicago he knew what was going on, and what the fuck does a 30 year old have in common with a teenager? just saying
Read history! Older men has always wanted younger lady's. Wrong or right. Anyone can see that most of these girls enjoyed what ever they were doing, I'm not excusing ANYwrong doing on Roberts part. Please STOP making him(Robert) out as a monster. God loves him too
This is what I call Grace, After I lost my job and thought all hope was gone, I did not even know how to get money to payoff my bills because I was already living in debt's, till I saw testimonies about Mrs Bambi Alex
Honestly what healing she got what she was after. I only feel bad for the younger girls r Kelly got with who were in their early adolescent/teen ages not this chick or r Kelly wife.
Look like she was paid real good from that Docuseries..... well they all was paid to do the interview and R. Kelly too care of her. But there is a video circulating from R. Kelly's cook/nutritionists and according to what she has said in one interview just does not add up to that Docuseries, she gave some good pertinent information that states they are all lying
Consent isnt just a question of age. Also, the type of abuse that Kelly is accused of goes way beyond the question of age. Also, she is basically a witness to his character. There are plenty of women, some of them allegedly minors at the time, that accuse him of mental, physical and sexual abuse.
What I like about Vlad is he’s breaking down the timeline. She’s so game goofy that she’s not even peeping. She called R. Kelly because she wanted someone to take care of her ass. She wasn’t in school, not doing anything with her life. But she did call him like most of these chics.
red86prelude that is women all of them they love shunning their responsibilities onto man if they can regardless of how independent they say or think they are
red86prelude you already know. 5 year olds know when they doing something good or bad but according to many people defending her or females like her females/male get dumber with age? Nah this is accountability shifting
That's what I thought I have a daughter ain't no way in the world she's going to be flying in and out of town and I don't know what's going on it would have to be a family member house or somebody I'm close with the parents failed these young girls
She said " I don't know what man in his 30's would want a 17 year old". However, it goes both ways I don't know what 17 year old would want a man in his 30's. When I was 17 I had NO desire to be with any MAN let alone a man in his 30's!
Remember, back then music videos were made far in advance of its release dates. Albums were released every two years. If it was shot in 96 but not released until 98 that sounds about right folks. Remember this was in the 90s
I can think of a few reasons for both lol... and none of the reasons are intellectual conversation... the love of money and sex will cause evil to manifest every time.
Then I we like to introduced you to Mrs Allen Lisa, Expert Allen is the best, I have been working with her for months now, investing with Mrs Allen Lisa is awesome and cool
Camille Brown Black folks don't care about Harvey..so thats just dumb and also black folks never even knew who Weinstein was like no one until shit came out. We know R. Kelly. Just a retarded thing to say. But yes Weinstein needs to be dragged too.
99% of black people never heard of Weinstein till recently but want him locked up faster than a guy they been knowing for over 20yrs of fucking and pissing on kids.......on tape!!
The negative comments towards this young lady amazes me. If you had taken the trouble to listen to her journey u would have the wisdom and maturity to understand she has been through a lot and has had a difficult upbringing.... this girl is a real survive 🙏
She was not just any 17 year old. She was an emancipated 17 year old adult. She lived a life of class, that came with sex, and appears to be a mutual exchange. Why is it decades later she comes out against R.Kelly? She must need some cash.
Emotional abuse and gaslighting is a real thing. Stockholm syndrome is real and these girls are showing clear signs of emotional distress and confusion. This is not a blame and shame game but rather an opportunity for us all to bring darkness to light for our future babies. Parents or no parents this alone educates our babies on what's right and what's wrong. This story has saved many young children from predators. No man or woman should be allowed to violate a child 0-18. Further more 21 is still an age that love, nurture and guidance is needed. this new generation will make sure of that. Amen. Many people will have opinions and that's great. Those survivors need to know that they will be called liars and fake. The most important thing to remember is the truth sets you free. So fly little birds and let go of the heavy burden you have been carrying for years and for every hater you have ten thousand beams of love and light shining on you that's an honest promise. ❤️
It's only a problem now because she wants clout money and the spot light. Many 17 year olds go out with older guys and no one is on tv talking about it. These are talking because its R Kelly. Not defending just saying people pick and choose. Also one last thing, how can you say what's a 30 year old doing with and a 17 year old. The same question in reverse what's a 17 year old doing with a 30 year old? Hippocrite behaviors.
She had the nerve to Say "What man in his 30s would want a 17 year old" during this interview. I say what 17 year old is interested in a 30 yr old man?
Ppl nowadays are stupid in 1998 most countries 16 was the age of consent the law was changed 18 in the 2000's their relationship was perfectly normal for the times
Stop bashing this lady....She was smitten and they had fun...Kels is a freak...Period Consensual madness... She has not done anything wrong....Leave her alone...
For those of y’all who are quoting what 30 year old man wants something from a 17 year old. Remember she has experience a lot of emotional trauma and had to mature very quickly. However as a grown man he needed to show some restraint. It’s not her fault she was broken and deceived.
0:45 it's hard for Vlad to stay focused when Tupac or Death Row is bought up
He died in in 1996 on the Vegas strip. We believe 2Pac's killer was Orlando Brown...
-Vlad
@@Maxxroad Orlando Anderson
Couch Tomato why
@@joshrobertson7187 because those are his favorite topics.
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When she mentioned 2pac vlad immediately wanted to ask her about suge
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Hahahaha Factz
Elvis Presley first met Priscilla Presley when she was 14 and married her when she was 16 and he was 40 yet no one talks about it. Wtf is that about?
An back then it wasn't as frowned at diffrent generation
That was also his cousin and they kept it hush hush
Adrian Morton
Elvis was not 40 at the time. he was 25-26.
Elvis was 25 but that doesn't make any difference it still wasn't talked about and the shit is all bs and racist. You got Steven Tyler ArrowSmith, Jerry Seinfield, Bill Wyman, Rene' Angelil, Don Johnson
Johnny Hallyday was attracted by little girls and François too. Pedophiles didn’t hide their demons those days...
How did her mother just let her go see a grown man. Where the hell was her father?
Her father was deadbeat
Watch the first one then you'll all the info
I just saw the first one. She should have gone home to her foster mother.
Nah. She had an adoptive mother. She thought she was grown. Her mother shouldn’t have let her go with her aunt.
@@andrewstaples8677 her mom aint shit either
Not EVERY GIRL can be sucked in by pedophiles/predators (R Kelly) but sometimes a 17 year old girl who doesn’t have a dad or brothers or any family for that matter but some do. When a 30 year old famous, rich and admired man (R Kelly at that time) offers a 17 year old CHILD with no family or home attention, money and other things, the girl is bound to fall in love and become trapped.
She was 18
She was already fucking , she knew what was up
She lied about her age she was 18 when she met him.Admitted in court she was 18.said she forgot she thought she was 17
She was flying back and forth at 17? (Question for the parents)
What parents? You not listening to her story
Listen to part 1 in the description
Don't be so quick to judge....... cause if you're 17 , then it's within reason that your mom is only 34 , 35 herself . Okay , so that means that at that age , she could still be hanging out in the streets herself , right ? ... Or she could be a single mother working 2 or even 3 low wage paying jobs . Just to pay the bills and take care of her kids all by herself . So when your 17 year old son or daughter starts lying to you about their whereabouts . It's not always because the mother wasn't a good mother . It could be that she was just so busy with everything else to follow up on it . Believe it or not this happens more than people realize or care to admit to .
Michael Clay I know a chick who said she flew to Houston during the week while she was in High School....believe it or not it happens!
@@sunflowerthegoddess1737 So what are you trying to say.. she still did it whether or not the parents were there. And nowadays its normal for so-called single mothers to blame the fact they are doing everything when they made the decision to have the child or sleep with the dude to begin with.. no accountability. So this girl is doing her thing with no accountability as well.. when will these girls take responsibility for their sh!t for decision making.. The dick is needed to the point they will go against it if it isn't friendly? There is too much confusion.. simple put, folks have made bad decision and continue making it the rest of their lives.. and nothing but a trail of fukk ups which other ppl have either used, reproduced off of, tripped and fell over, got addicted over it.. what good has come from it? One thing out of how many other horrible happen stances.. You judge folks decisions, but if they are still alive they will have to deal with it while trying to do right IF IF IF that is their end game. Anyone can judge anyone as long as they are willing to take the same pill they judge someone else with and suffer the same scrutiny as well. Until then.. one should refrain from judging.. I grew up knowing girls liking older dudes.. shit that was a normal thing, so whatever comes from that is their own fault..
People are acting like this is abnormal for superstars to sleep with multiple women and have a wife.
Its not normal just because people do it lol them was kids
Kids! Kids! Kids!
It's normal to have beds and shower and video cameras to have all this shit in the studio 😂😂😂 gtfo man
what kids?! this bitch was 17 the legal age of consent in IL is 17 FOH HERE YOU REACHING YOU NERD
Snuff Daddy Nigga what country do you live in? It’s 18 round here in America fuck outta here 🤣☠️ niggas be thinking we in Canada where u can be with a partner within 5 years of age
She said how does a 30 year man want a 17 year old yet she was the 17 year old?? 🤔
contain4ft Exactly
contain4ft a lot of niggas see body and don’t look at the age , that’s why you ask for her age , she sound stupid
Do you think a 30 year old man with fame and fortune wanting 17 year old girl is normal?
contain4ft where was her 17 year old boyfriend?
Yeah but at 17 years old you not thinking that way ! You are just star struck and want to have fun !
Lisa Van Allen was born in June of 1980, you can find on her Facebook. She also said in a 2008 interview she was 18 in 1980.
"i didnt know who rob was" at a r.kelly video shoot ?!?!?!
Not many knew with the R stood 4 at the time. Pre internet days were shadowy.
Exactly 😕😕😕 I HATE HOES
@@Maxxroad People who werent around pre internet really don't understand this. The whole Aliyah thing was more like urban legend than something to investigate. Nowadays he would be toast!
@@ThirtyThreeHipHop I was alive. I had a Vibe Magazine subscription. The marriage certificate was in an issue. This wasn't an "urban legend" to anyone who could read or kept up with entertainment news.
Bullshit
OK, I get it...but she willingly did this right??? Meaning going on the road living with him, not telling her mom what's up at first etc. That's the part I mean IDK what 30 yr old man wants a 17 yr old kid. SOME parts of her story are 🙄😑🤔
So if a 15 year old willingly did it as well is it still ok? Foh
@HAWK in Asia your right. But asking her thoes personal questions about if her dad was in her life and shit like that. He asked that because he was tryna see if he could pull her away from her family. Its about more than sex. It's about the control. The man is sick. Since it's so "legal" are you out her tryna pick up 17yr olds?
@@Flash_1689 I'm not talking about a 15 yr old. She was of legal age allegedly. I don't fuck with kellz. Who said this shit was ok?
Bermsy Fructa man thank you
@@Flash_1689 bro if a 15 year is WILLINGLY WILLING & ANOTHER 15 IS NOT WILLINGLY WILLING. Thats a BIG difference. I ain't SAYING Kells a innocent nigga but those two things are different and should be treates as such.
Im 29yr old and the thought of having to lisen to a teenage girl talk in my ear🤮🤮😥😪.. R kelly is a strong man.. i got nuthin to say to any girl under 23..
Robb holmes 😂😂😂😂
That's a fact I'm 37 and if had to listen to a 17 y.o who wasn't my child yapping about nothing I'd lose my fucking mine
@@kbullard3251 LMAO
23? I guess you just pulled that random number out of you rear
You have to think about R.Kelly being slow! He can’t read or write. He may feel more comfortable speaking to younger girls
Tupac died in 1996. Home Alone video was filmed in 1998. Something isn’t adding up...smh
@BMode32 😂😂😂
I thought the same thing 😂
Even tho Tupac died he was still on the radio and just like now people still listening and interested in his music.
I didn't know R. Kelly had a song called Home alone
Lol mean she was older but the real mystery is how the hell kells have a song on home alone 🤣😂🤣
Where were her parents? Wasn’t anyone concerned about where she was? 🤦🏽♀️ I don’t understand
She was 18 and clearly free to do whatever before 18 unfortunately
R Kelly was concerned. He asked about her parents.
U will be surprised there are plenty of young girls with no guidance hoeing around at a young age why if u have daughters need to be in there life raise them properly!
@@smack9x 😂😂😂😂
She say she don’t know what 30 year old man wants a 17 year old but what tf does a 17 year old want with a 30 year old 😑
Facts
Facts!!! Cause I said the same thing..
Ok!
Exactly Babygirl was seeing dollar signs
Ageee
Just so we're clear, he was well within the law to be with her.
I'll stay right here with the facts. She was of legal age.
Depends on the state I'm 31 I'll never fuck with no 17 year old
Unknown Unknown The state he is in it was Legal is the point. Doesn’t matter what anyone would do.
Still a perv he was 30 find a 25 26 27 28 29 30 year old why they gotta b 17 16 15 18
Tyrone Shaird that’s your opinion. You don’t go to jail for being a perv. We are talking about the law.
Home alone came out in 1998.. on the R album... somebody lying 🤥...
Str8Gwop She in the video idiot !
Jason Diaz song came out 8/30/1998.. video was shot after the release... sooooooo
Str8Gwop it did come out in 1998
@@MyPaperStr8 facts the dates dont at up. She was legal in the state of Georgia at 17. But during that time she had to be atleast 18-19 years of age
He thinkin home alone the movie 🤣🤣🤣
Vlad has absolutely no personality. He sounds like a lawyer questioning a witness on the stand. Sheeze!
Can you do a sit down with Woody Allen too
Vlad tv mostly covers news that are relevant to hip-hop culture and R&B.....so WHY would he have Woody Allen on?🤔🤔..yeah..Woody IS a dirtbag as well..but at least he NEVER recorded himself kissing on a underage girl..and mind YOU Woody IS a movie director..#FuckWoody #FuckRKelly
Is this interviewer white or black does anybody know he sounds White
@@veronicaronilake2691 he a white boy
@@veronicaronilake2691 white
Who wants to see a Woody Allen interview though? LOL
When he asked her was 17 legal in her state and she said YES. INTERVIEW WAS OVER!!!!! What we need to be doing is focus on the LAWS and why is THE AGE OF CONSENT 16 YEARS OLD IN 30 STATED. I mean WHY IS THAT??? You know why? Because men, ESPECIALLY THE WHITE MEN WHO MAKE THE LAWS, dont think there is anything wrong with sleeping with someone 16. Yes I think a 30 plus year old man who wants a 16 or 17 or 18 and 19 year old for that matter, is SICK, the truth is, IT IS NOT ILLEGAL. And every women I know have had controlling men. R. Kelly being a 'BAD BOYFRIEND" is NOT enough to convict him. PERIOD!! The media is SATURATING our minds with a lot of R. Kelly news that dont have ANYTHING to do with his current charges. If I was R. Kelly I wouldn't get a jury trial I would get a bench trial, because unfortunately jury's go by emotions and not the law. GOING BY THE LAW, YOU CANT CONVICT SOMEONE FOR BEING A BAD BOYFRIEND OR ELSE AT LEAST 85% OF ALL MEN WOULD BE IMPRISONED AT ONE POINT IN THEIR LIFE. SO UNLESS THEY CAN PROVE THAT HE SLEPT WITH UNDERAGE CHILDREN AFTER HIS LAST TRIAL IN WHICH HE WAS ACQUITTED, HE'S GOING FREE.
Well said! Do you think these women are adding in the not being fed or chained up situation? I'm not saying that R Kelly did nothing wrong, but I do think it's not just R Kelly in the wrong...I think the parents are just as guilty.
No doubt, I’m only 25 and I couldn’t see myself talking to a women 20 years of age!!!!
Not that there’s anything wrong with that age gap but I was completely different 5 years ago!!!!!
I wouldn’t date myself at 20 😂😂😂😂😂
I looked it up and the legal age of consent is 17 in Illinois.So she just went along with him at 30. But now some how shes been abused. Something fishy going on.😒
This bitch lyin on ME!
That doesn't mean she wasn't abused.
They want that check these thots are bag chasers for sure
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If you put your arm in fire will it burn? These chicks were willing as long as they were being taken care of. Can’t keep feeling sorry for ppl who are gluttons for pain. At some point she made choices, FOH.
hold up! the videos was shot in august of 98, she was 18. Lie! (r. kelly voice)
That's all she's been doing. A while set of lies. That's why when she testified against him in court they told her she was a liar. Bitch was a grown ass woman screwing this alleged 14 year old.thats the real reason she got immunity. Lying heffa
BIG FUCKING FACTS!!!!!
Rlly? Cos that would b a turn up for the books.
He asked "so you were still 17, she said yes, he said so you were in school, she said no i was moving around! She knew he caught her in a lie.
Lmao
So she was "17" at a video shoot??? How did a minor end up at this video shoot?? Sounds like somebody lied about their age.
in Georgia she's legal age
She was 18 or 19 that song and video was in 98 she definitely lying.
You can be 17 on a video shoot. It's not like going to a club
Dana Wilder 💯
legal age in chicago is 17
“Did you drop out?” “No I was working”
Vlad......ok
Ricky Godette 😂😂 wild
Ricky Godette 💀💀
Ricky Godette The bitch is slow lol
🤣😂🤣😂 right lol
She was moving around????? Either you dropped out of school or you had graduated ( Liar)
Latonya Walker EXACTLY
Right
Yep that bitch be lying her ass off..
Right. Unless it was summer break
catmo59 she said she then moved in and she was there for Years
"Of course I didn't ask my mother." Hmmm.
Clearly some of these girls really enjoyed living for free off of R. Kelly. 😂
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I HARDLY CONSIDER WHAT HE PUT THEM ALL THRU (INCLUDING EATING HIS FECES) AS "FOR FREE". SMDH
She resembles Joycelyn Savage
"We listened to music; He went play basketball; We had sex; pretty basic stuff."
WTF....pretty basic stuff.
This girl is obviously one that he lost interest in, she was replaced, easily.
Hey, Sex is a basic stuff in America, you should know that. you've got the biggest porn industry in the world
When I was 17 I knew exactly what a man wanted! She must be slow.
Right! Tf she is VERY SLOW 😅😅😅
I bet her dumb ass feel stupid to a grown man and Ik she do in this interview lol
As a 17 year old I would have never imagined a famous 30 year old would ever be interested in me. I don't think she's slow...just innocent.
@@HolographicCathawk this
Minors can be so impressionable. I can't believe she's not in jail. She said it was fun at first but stayed with him, brought her daughter around him. She was in it for the money and lifestyle. I can't stand to see women playing the victim roles, when they were fully aware of what went on and played apart in everything. Despicable.
"These hoezzzz aint loyal" 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
That's a Fendi.
U probably do it to
No they ain't
Emotional abuse and gaslighting is a real thing. Stockholm syndrome is real and these girls are showing clear signs of emotional distress and confusion. This is not a blame and shame game but rather an opportunity for us all to bring darkness to light for our future babies. Parents or no parents this alone educates our babies on what's right and what's wrong. This story has saved many young children from predators. No man or woman should be allowed to violate a child 0-18. Further more 21 is still an age that love, nurture and guidance is needed. this new generation will make sure of that. Amen. Many people will have opinions and that's great. Those survivors need to know that they will be called liars and fake. The most important thing to remember is the truth sets you free. So fly little birds and let go of the heavy burden you have been carrying for years and for every hater you have ten thousand beams of love and light shining on you that's an honest promise. ❤️
I don’t know what man wants a 17 yr old... YOU TRAVELED TO HIM!!
Facts!
Pedophiles
Exactly!
one sided loyalty is for suckas 🖕🏾
Exactly! she's the predator
She tricked off, and trying to get some paper
STREHE PUSHERS right
STREHE PUSHERS she was 17, him as a grown man should have known better. Why are you faulting the child for being a child?
Latoya Ward she was 17 she should’ve known not to talk to grown men she’s just as guilty as he is it’s always excuses for women smh they’re both wrong
@@uncleshannon1756 hey uncle u r as dumb as your name lol
Latoya Ward she knew better! Think back when you were 17 or 18 honesty a rich man would give u certain motives( money, better lifestyle and celebrity) she knew better I know me being 30 I knew better, and wanted what I wanted.
I just found an old Essence magazine article where Lisa Van Allen says her birthday is in June and she turned 18 in 1998... Wikipedia has Home Alone coming out August of 1998. Normally they release the song before they shoot the video. How can she be 17 at the video shoot?
Thank you!! Now the trial is going on
We are finding out she was actually 18…shes been lying
5:30 IDK what a 17 girl doing with a 30 year old. I like how she play the victim. This chick was helping him break little girls.
She is one of his victims. R. Kelly is the monster. You are victim blaming.
MrDdub619 she got Az addicted to coke...She’s a big cokehead. That rapid eye blinking is so bothersome
But she knew he was older she didn't have to call him when he gave her his number its not like he kidnapped her smh theses chicks want you to have sympathy for them cause it didn't go how they thought it would its like a game crying and complaining when you lose but when you winning its all good smh
Right... She trying to act like she wasn't hype to meet him.. She was fuckin open!
@@lilmommy1402 exactly they all was
Thank you! She waited a month to call him, yet saying why would a 30yr have interest in a 17yr old? Why call him? Why take the 300$ if you get tht on your job? C'mon! Now, she knew exactly what she was doing. Choices ppl, 😄 these girls too extra!
@@lyte4240 exactly
You are 1000 my friend
What they really ashamed of is how far they was willing to go to get what they wanted
That s what they want noone to know that
So they come with the victim playing
All of them
They all doing this
How did Andrea Kelly not know ANYTHING about these girls and what was going on! 🤔
She's lying, there's no way she didn't know
Lakeisha exactly...she a WHOLE lie 😐 no way your HUSBAND messing with that many chicks and you see the cameras and tripods and all that mess laying around and u not NOT “KNOW ANYTHING “ baby bye! She just closed her eyes to it bc I’m sure he was not hiding it!
Chile' she knew....we r intelligent....she thinks that we r all as dumb as rob.
You can't control your husband and screaming and yelling creating chaos in the household is not going to help your children.
Her ass knew just like everybody else around him did
So her mama just let her leave like that!! she knew better she was 17 and being as my momma would say fasss
True but u knw state of GA your consider a aldult which mean she could leave anywhere anytime. so i guess momma been like go bring that money home for us baby
I think she was in foster care or something from Hollywood Nex update
Accountability, he gave you $300 and that made you stay. Im telling you, this is unreal! I love the person asking questions... keep catching these tricks trying to trick
I keep saying folks ain't paying attention to the amounts he was giving these girls. He wasn't paying like he weighs...
@@NOCDIB then to top it off you other there doing threesomes. He was working the hell outta they body's and giving them change. At 17 I was to into money.... He probably would have jump on cause off the muscle I would have let it be known I'm worth more than $300... These girls didn't have no kind of self love or valuing they self's....smdh
Ha
gary corr that's sad, im almost 50, no one could have given me $300. Had me leave ny life. I have been attracted to older guys, if I was 17 , older maybe 20. I would've been disgusted if a older man hit on me.! Superstar or Not! I have actually blown off opportunities to be with more than two people that are now millionaires!
@@l.w3889 Women are delusional af. Even if you did, why bring that up? That make your own self look stupid af
Shit I can't stop seeing Jocelyn savage when I look at her
Yea they look a like
Did you drop out?”
“No I was working”
Vlad......ok
lmao
Lol yeah she’s slow
Damn Kelly had an entire questionnaire, he can smell the quick ones
That's what predators do . They choose the path of least resistance .
@kanyi bella No they shouldnt.
Quick ones? The questionnaire was to track vulnerable KIDS. Let’s not victim shame, you freak....
@kanyi bella the hell
Sies man u disgusting
What's the point of this interview again?
To help save these hoes from themselves.. Floyd got 7 of them trapped in his 20,000 sq Ft. Mansion and they need our help..
How thots change their answers in one sentence 😂😂
V I E W S
Yo Mama's Cup of Tea exactly 🧐🧐🧐
Another pointless video frim r.kelly willing young Thots. This just as pointless one the one with arizel and jocelyn acting interview. No need to lie just sat you did it and went along with it cause.....it R.KELLY
Legend has it she’s still 17
What does a girl 17 years old want with a guy in his 30's
What does a guy in his 30’s want with a 17 year old girl?
I recomendation letter for collage duhhhhh 😁
Goes both ways eh? The thing is one asked for sex and the 17 year old agreed. The victim card is always in use after 10 years the incident happen that’s when all the thots can strip them for all their money
More money, better experience, more stability, usually better looking etc etc... how is that even a question?
Money
Wikipedia says Home Alone wasn't released until August 1998. So Lisa are you sure the video for home alone was shot in 1997?
Yep I was going to 9th grade when that song and video came out 98-99.
U smart
She’s lying that video was made August 30, 1998
I mean most of these movies takes up to a year to be created so..
@@stasiabri4196 home alone the R Kelly song with Keith Murray. They not talking about the home alone movie with the white kid
She got flewed out and bust down... end of story. 🤷🏾♂️
x1st48xiFOREIGN 😩😂💯🥴😂😂
🤦🏻♀️😩😂😂😂😂
Lol thats the honest truth common sense haha
Tupac just died when she got into R. Kelly. Did Robert kill Tupac? Keep asking questions
Lmao
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Our Founding Liars Bruh😂
😂
These girls are fast.
So just because you think these girls are fast doesn't mean R Kelly didn't do anything wrong? No is always an option
@Shawn P. And he still a predator at the end of the day and it is what it is
Yes.r kelly is predator. .... And these girls were FAST. ....just saying
@@flygirlmetaphysics5049 Again we put the blame on these women, but nobody said anything about the mf who set up her flight to fly out to Chicago he knew what was going on, and what the fuck does a 30 year old have in common with a teenager? just saying
I don't care if these girls was fast in the ass or hot in the twot. He was a full grown ass man.
the fact that the most comments are coming at the Girls instead of this MAN is so sad
STFU
His first question with all the girls ”When can you get to Chicago?”
🤣🤣🤣😭
Lmao…. Yeah saw that. Starting to think these charges against him may not be as far fetched as they once seemed.
😭😭😭
@@chiakbar Red Flag? right lol
does anyone see how these women went looking for him gurl bye
imanii moore not to mention how they leave....but then go back or attempt too 😐
Read history! Older men has always wanted younger lady's. Wrong or right.
Anyone can see that most of these girls enjoyed what ever they were doing, I'm not excusing ANYwrong doing on Roberts part. Please STOP making him(Robert) out as a monster. God loves him too
Brenda Harris let’s not get started on Elvis Presley and Hugh Heifner ....
Lisa is lying. She was 18. And 17 is the age of consent in Illinois and Georgia.
Be You exactly!!!!! Sick of these fake ass victims
16 in Georgia
Exactly
It's still not ok to a 30 old ass man....
To each their own
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I really feel sorry for her hope she finds some healing and blessing.
Honestly what healing she got what she was after. I only feel bad for the younger girls r Kelly got with who were in their early adolescent/teen ages not this chick or r Kelly wife.
Look like she was paid real good from that Docuseries..... well they all was paid to do the interview and R. Kelly too care of her. But there is a video circulating from R. Kelly's cook/nutritionists and according to what she has said in one interview just does not add up to that Docuseries, she gave some good pertinent information that states they are all lying
Vlad you know damn well she wasn't a virgin if she was ever go to Chicago without her mama being there
The age of consent in GEORGIA IS 16. So why is this chick getting interviewed? He didn’t break the law 🤷🏽♂️
It's 18 in GA.
Consent isnt just a question of age. Also, the type of abuse that Kelly is accused of goes way beyond the question of age. Also, she is basically a witness to his character. There are plenty of women, some of them allegedly minors at the time, that accuse him of mental, physical and sexual abuse.
Back in the 90s it wasn’t a consent rule if you was under 18, you were not legal
@@maxmeier532 yep.
17 years old and not enrolled in school and hanging around 30 year old stars, yeh ok.
That part..
Waiting for the Priscilla Presley and Soon-Yi Previn interviews next.
How are they related to hip hop culture?
@@Misterdeeh3000 I thought Vlad covered more topics other than hip-hop culture because he's interviewed certain comedians and porn stars.
@@b.brown404 nigga comedians and porn stars are hip hop culture fuck u mean
@@thekidnamedcudi8850 You right this is hip hop all day
Priscilla married him and lived a real married rich life. No comparison
Home Alone !!!!!!! Is Still My Jam to this day!!!!! 🔥 Shout out to Keith Murray !
What I like about Vlad is he’s breaking down the timeline. She’s so game goofy that she’s not even peeping. She called R. Kelly because she wanted someone to take care of her ass. She wasn’t in school, not doing anything with her life. But she did call him like most of these chics.
Its sounds like she was living it up, but now shes playing victim. This is a joke
you can live it up and still be abused, what are you talkin about.
@@maxmeier532 , your a dumbass. She's saying she was a victim of basically rape.
red86prelude that is women all of them they love shunning their responsibilities onto man if they can regardless of how independent they say or think they are
@@thomashall2983 , they knew what they were doing. It's just the feminist time in America right now, and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon
red86prelude you already know. 5 year olds know when they doing something good or bad but according to many people defending her or females like her females/male get dumber with age? Nah this is accountability shifting
Vlad asked her if she dropped out of high school, and instead of saying yes she says “I wasn’t at school at that time”
I like how she's trynna portray herself as someone who was innocent AF at the age of 17😂
@@solecito96 thank you
@@solecito96 man she knew wtf she was doing foh 😂😂😂😂
@@solecito96 true
She was 18 not 17 she admitted it in court
Thots just chase fame
So if you want them, become famous
Big C facts
The age of consent in Illinois is 17, just saying 🤷♂️
Exactly
@Kessa R actually that's false
@@TheCbmt tell em bro smh the legal age is 16 dummies
Yeah but the other party can’t be more than 4 years old.
She's beautiful
this is crazy she WILLINGLY WENT TO GO SEE THIS MAN😒😒🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
If this was a "Exposure " video then clearly ladies and gentlemen it is a epic fail.
What did her mom have to say about her picking up and flying out to Chicago? As a mother, I would have been highly concerned.
That's what I thought I have a daughter ain't no way in the world she's going to be flying in and out of town and I don't know what's going on it would have to be a family member house or somebody I'm close with the parents failed these young girls
She loved every minute with Rob, Vlad 😆
Yes she did. Now they acting all innocent.
@@clivecampbell4138 😂
She said " I don't know what man in his 30's would want a 17 year old". However, it goes both ways I don't know what 17 year old would want a man in his 30's. When I was 17 I had NO desire to be with any MAN let alone a man in his 30's!
Remember, back then music videos were made far in advance of its release dates. Albums were released every two years. If it was shot in 96 but not released until 98 that sounds about right folks. Remember this was in the 90s
Imagine having tattooed eyebrows then u get a pimple on them 🤣🤦🏽♂️
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That's a mole
Probably was pierced
Lisa was also in R.Kelly's "I wish" video, braiding his hair on the porch!!.
Ooo really
Moe Taylor 😮
"I dont know what 30 year old would want a 17 year old??" Marvin Gaye, Prince, Rick James.....etc etc etc
Damn
Idk why a man in his 30 wants a 17 year old. Idk why 17 year old girl wants a 30 year old man!
Exactly
I can think of a few reasons for both lol... and none of the reasons are intellectual conversation... the love of money and sex will cause evil to manifest every time.
Where can I invest and get paid with good profit
Trading bitcoin is a good business one can think of doing
Yes, you're right bitcoin is a good business
If you ask me, I think Bitcoin has something big for the world but having a good mentor is the best
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I'm shocked someone mentioned and recommended Expert Mrs Allen Lisa.. She's the plug
When she said she seen this nigga WRITE music I immediately closed the video.
Could you interview Harvey Weinstein ALSO?
He doesn’t have that kind of pull bro lol
Camille Brown Black folks don't care about Harvey..so thats just dumb and also black folks never even knew who Weinstein was like no one until shit came out. We know R. Kelly. Just a retarded thing to say. But yes Weinstein needs to be dragged too.
I hate this shit where black people think its ok for children to be raped by a black man just because white people do it too. STFU
99% of black people never heard of Weinstein till recently but want him locked up faster than a guy they been knowing for over 20yrs of fucking and pissing on kids.......on tape!!
Exactly
Elvis, Jerry Seinfeld, Woody Allen to name a few
Whyt,whyt,whyt,
The negative comments towards this young lady amazes me.
If you had taken the trouble to listen to her journey u would have the wisdom and maturity to understand she has been through a lot and has had a difficult upbringing....
this girl is a real survive 🙏
She was not just any 17 year old. She was an emancipated 17 year old adult. She lived a life of class, that came with sex, and appears to be a mutual exchange.
Why is it decades later she comes out against R.Kelly? She must need some cash.
Because she's broke
WHAT’S A GIRL “””17””” WANT WITH A “””30””” YEAR OLD??? YOU FLEW THERE!!! 🙄🙄🙄 #tf
Starr Williams this was catfish before CATFISH was CATFISH
She told me. She was 18 yr old! This bitch lyin on me! 😣
Money
@@JDMHaze lol that's not how catfish works . She didn't lie about her age
NeickhaSuPRA lmaoo juss the cross country love affair part lol
Emotional abuse and gaslighting is a real thing. Stockholm syndrome is real and these girls are showing clear signs of emotional distress and confusion. This is not a blame and shame game but rather an opportunity for us all to bring darkness to light for our future babies. Parents or no parents this alone educates our babies on what's right and what's wrong. This story has saved many young children from predators. No man or woman should be allowed to violate a child 0-18. Further more 21 is still an age that love, nurture and guidance is needed. this new generation will make sure of that. Amen. Many people will have opinions and that's great. Those survivors need to know that they will be called liars and fake. The most important thing to remember is the truth sets you free. So fly little birds and let go of the heavy burden you have been carrying for years and for every hater you have ten thousand beams of love and light shining on you that's an honest promise. ❤️
"idk what man in his 30s wants a 17 yr old?" uhmmm you wanted him back as a 17 YR OLD! like huh? lol...
Regardless she was a minor. He was an adult and should had used his better judgement
Laina Wells HE IS THE ADULT IN THE SITUATION!!!! Why can’t yall get that??
Lisa is a perfect example of when a hot chicks get old,has nothing and no one desires them anymore
Shiiiit she can still get it tf u talking about!
@@NODIDDDYCOMMITEE I didn't say that she couldn't but she's no comparison to a hot 21 yr old
A quote for from Bushwick Bill
"R Kelly is my nigga so I like girls young 18 to 23 black and white girls come"
It's only a problem now because she wants clout money and the spot light. Many 17 year olds go out with older guys and no one is on tv talking about it. These are talking because its R Kelly. Not defending just saying people pick and choose.
Also one last thing, how can you say what's a 30 year old doing with and a 17 year old. The same question in reverse what's a 17 year old doing with a 30 year old? Hippocrite behaviors.
neo217041 facts
Hippocritic* - Hippocratic is an oath that doctors take. LOL.
@@varmintbaby434 thanks that was autocorrect and typing at 4am half asleep. Lol
She had the nerve to Say "What man in his 30s would want a 17 year old" during this interview. I say what 17 year old is interested in a 30 yr old man?
She was with Usher before R Kelly and allegedly he abused her too.
LMAO 😂 Really .? I Wanna See This Article If U Got It
Ppl nowadays are stupid in 1998 most countries 16 was the age of consent the law was changed 18 in the 2000's their relationship was perfectly normal for the times
Preach!
We all love TUPAC!!!! ❤️❤️🖖🏽🖖🏽🖖🏽
Stop bashing this lady....She was smitten and they had fun...Kels is a freak...Period
Consensual madness...
She has not done anything wrong....Leave her alone...
He is
Apart from having a 3some with an underage girl. But I guess she didn't know....
These women loving these paid interviews 🤣🤣
Vlad doesn't pay.
@@hershekissed Oh ok but most do
For those of y’all who are quoting what 30 year old man wants something from a 17 year old. Remember she has experience a lot of emotional trauma and had to mature very quickly. However as a grown man he needed to show some restraint. It’s not her fault she was broken and deceived.
She lied. She was 18
She was trying to clown him for talking to her at age 17 and reminding Vlad he 30 but it's a wild ass story
R. Kelly needs to start demanding paychecks from these women who are using his name to make a name for themselves.