Good Job on the video Rose! Helps immensely with decisions concerning new equipment and cabling needs. Many of my ICOM-7300 connections are used for other devices. This confirms that no serious conflict is expected for CW keyer. External speaker can be sacraficed.
Wanted to thank you Rose for this video. I'm 70 yo and have decided not to just sit around. :) I'm learning morse code and have purchased a really nice paddle key from Ukraine and the MFJ 464. Your video will greatly enhance my learning abilities. Being able to connect it up to the my IC 7300 is going to be fun. Thanks
Hi Rose, thank you for posting and I have to agree with many others here that your easy explanation style is top notch and I'd encourage you to show it in operation. I don't own a IC7300 but the explanations migrates across other radios. It's an expensive piece of kit as a morse trainer though. Thanks again 73 de M0AZE Mike
Thank you. I think FLDIGI software works a bit better for translating actual QSOs, so I don't use it much with my radio. I use it as a trainer and agree it is expensive for that, but it is small and light and easy to take with me.
Thanks Michael. There are some other videos on UA-cam that you have likely found by now that demonstrate what you are looking for. While it seems to do a pretty good job translating from the radio, I think that my fldigi software does better. I have found my unit to be most useful for CW practice so far. It is easy to take with me and plug my key in anywhere. Earbuds make it so the family doesn't get annoyed. 73.
@@RoseBag72 Yes, Thanks. I've seen some of the other videos but by my estimation, you have a better (clear and direct, in a good way) presentation style. I am sure other videos from you would be welcome by many. I'm planning to use it for practice with and without the radio also. Thanks again!
Thank you for your video and explanation Rose on which cable goes to which connection, I was struggling a bit trying to get my 464 to work correctly and I kept thinking the jumper's were set up wrongly and mfj support were no real help at all.. I'm gonna give it a shot now and see what happens when I connect it now correctly with my pro111.. finger's crossed...
Thanks for that. I have a question if you have time? I have made a box that parallels all my straight keys and paddles so it comes out as TRS jack. Can you tell the MFJ-464 which you are using or does it auto-sense depending on whether you plug in a stereo or mono jack? Thanks for your time. 73 Patrick 😊
Thank you is an excellent video but now I have a question I have an Icom 706MKIIG model I need to Know how to do the right conections to make it worth with a computer program that I have installed in my computer (hiper terminal )because I use a computer with a keyboard to transmit. Well In brief words I use the same device but with a computer.
The MF-464 connects to your computer via a 3.5 mm stereo plug to DB-9 cable (sold by MFJ as the MFJ-5161). The DB-9 looks like a VGA but has 9 pins instead of 15. You may need a converter cable such as a DB-9 to USB depending on the ports available on your computer. The 3.5 mm plug goes to the "Serial Port" on the back of the MFJ-464. Best, R.
@@RoseBag72 Ok thank you I am going to use a translator because I can write and undestand just a bit but I am going to check it I am from Sinaloa Than you indeed....
Hello I hope you're okay. When the device(MFJ464) is connected to the transceiver does the MFJ-464 need to be configured in its menu ? Because my device does not start translating !!!! Please help if possible . Tnx
I saw your video very usefully. Could you give a tip to lock the signal between the two rig? I think it's not easy at all. Could anybody help me adjust the level, tone, af/rf control between the two rigs, MFJ 464 and Icom radio?
It's kind of bothersome that noone sells a mono RCA to stereo adapter with the ground and the tip connected to the mono side. I almost tried to look you up RoseBag - so I could e-mail you to find out about where you got that RCA connector. But then I read your description at the top - and "oh crap, that's what I was afraid of". One other idea I had to address this cable issue - to avoid having to do something in the connector area itself, I just went on Amazon and for about $20 I was able to buy a bare wire open end pigtail (RCA), and also a bare wire open end 1/8" stereo connector). So I can solder the RCA center wire to stereo tip, and the ground wire to ground, and just cut off the remaining wire on the stereo end (that goes to the ring contact of the stereo plug)... Then seal it up with heat shrink where the wires are joined in the middle... No connector work necessary and wire to wire soldering is easy. This is not as fragile a process or in any way difficult. One other thing I did similar to this (seemed janky at the time but was easier than alternatives). I tried to open an aux cable up to wire the key side for my MFJ-557 straight key oscillator terminals, and the wires were about the same thickness as human hair, so that was a bust. I then decided to just take aother intact aux cable and just solder one wire direct to the tip, and one wire to the ground (skipping the ring contact area of the stero plug) - being sure to tin both the connector and wire first so they soldered easily. Then I put heat shrink over the solider joint on the connector to seal it up and give it some extra strength. Had to take care of course soldering the ground portion to the wire so it didn't cross over to the ring contact of the stereo connector. Not pretty, but all those sins are covered up in heat shrink and after I soldered it, it survived the pull test, so it worked well enough for my purposes. All its doing is conducting electricity in a simple circuit. Open/closed. So it didn't have to be a work of art. Another idea I think works is take one of those dual RCA plugs that goes to a single stereo plug, and just cut the one off (or cover it in tape) that is wired to the ring part of the stereo plug. Use the one that's tip/ground (usually that one will be red). and that's just as easy as making a new cable.
Hi can you post a link where to get the stereo jack plug with single rca as i have looked all over the net in the uk and cant find one they all have double rca plugs .I dont mind ordering from the usa as i saw another video in which the guy stated that you need a stereo jack plug as a mono wont work on a 7300, i also have a 7300 I noticed in your video that your cable looks shop bought ..MFJ dont sell these cables .Thanks for any assistance you give me .
I did make it. If I remember correctly, I peeled the video RCA end off of an audio/video trio and then soldered the other end to a 1/4" stereo plug. I think the key is that it is a 1/4" TRS plug and not a TS plug because the receiving port on the radio expects the TRS, not that it is receiving actual stereo. Does that make sense?
@@RoseBag72 I am going to try a 1/4 stereo plug which accepts an rca plug and use a male to male rca but i aint holding my breath .Mfj have been making this unit for years and you would think that they would have fitted a modern usb connection on the back for modern keyboards, at style keyboards which they recommend went out of date 20 years ago . It also would be nice if they sold the cables which are required to operated the thing. If i ever get this thing to work i will let you know .Thanks for the reply's its more than Mfj did after sending them a few e-mails .
Let me know how it goes. I will be home in a few days and can post a photo with details of how that cable is contsructed. It looks like it is a problem for a number of people!
@@RoseBag72 I managed to get the 464 to send using the cable set i bought and i used a ps2 keyboard with an adaptor . The incoming signals are just a mix of letters but i did not manage to find any good cw stations .Can i ask what settings you have altered in the 7300 like cw pitch as i think this might make a difference to help decode the incoming signals . Thanks .
The only adjustment to the radio I made is to expect a straight key from the MFJ-464 (even though I use paddles). As I have noted in other comments, I think that FLDIGI software does a better job of translating, but the MFJ-464 will accurately translate a strong CW signal. 73 &c.
No, it is a mono connection. Since UA-cam will not allow me to post a photo, I have created a tiny companion video for this at ua-cam.com/video/UhhVediXkJg/v-deo.html
Have you ever used this using just a keyboard no paddles or pc ?.I ts kinda obvious where the keyboard goes and i take it you just need one other cable going from key in on the Mfj to key port on the 7300.
Использование Google translate: Если я правильно помню, я снял видео RCA конец аудио / видео трио, а затем припаял другой конец к 1/4 "стереофоническому разъему. Я думаю, что ключ в том, что это 1/4" Разъем TRS, а не разъем TS, потому что порт приема на радио ожидает TRS, а не то, что он принимает фактическое стерео. Имеет ли это смысл?
Sorry I am again well I have done the rights connections in the same way as you recomended to me but I cant to transmit because there is not connection with the radio and the computer I have all the plugs so I do not know what I am doing wrong.
🤔 If I understand you correctly then you are not using a key or paddle to transmit at all, only your keyboard? I wonder if you might be better off using fldigi software instead of the MFJ-464? If you are using a paddle, you will have to make sure that your radio is configured to expect straight key output from the MFJ-464. Best of luck with this. I am sorry I can't be more helpful.
Thank you so much. I searched everywhere until I stumbled upon your video.Very helpful!
Good Job on the video Rose! Helps immensely with decisions concerning new equipment and cabling needs. Many of my ICOM-7300 connections are used for other devices. This confirms that no serious conflict is expected for CW keyer. External speaker can be sacraficed.
Wanted to thank you Rose for this video. I'm 70 yo and have decided not to just sit around. :) I'm learning morse code and have purchased a really nice paddle key from Ukraine and the MFJ 464. Your video will greatly enhance my learning abilities. Being able to connect it up to the my IC 7300 is going to be fun. Thanks
I like your step 1,2,3 approach in 2 minutes.
Hi Rose, thank you for posting and I have to agree with many others here that your easy explanation style is top notch and I'd encourage you to show it in operation. I don't own a IC7300 but the explanations migrates across other radios. It's an expensive piece of kit as a morse trainer though. Thanks again 73 de M0AZE Mike
Thank you. I think FLDIGI software works a bit better for translating actual QSOs, so I don't use it much with my radio. I use it as a trainer and agree it is expensive for that, but it is small and light and easy to take with me.
Very clear and concise. Good job! Thinking of adding the 464 as part of my IC-7000 station. A demo of it all working would be a nice follow-on video.
Thanks Michael. There are some other videos on UA-cam that you have likely found by now that demonstrate what you are looking for. While it seems to do a pretty good job translating from the radio, I think that my fldigi software does better. I have found my unit to be most useful for CW practice so far. It is easy to take with me and plug my key in anywhere. Earbuds make it so the family doesn't get annoyed. 73.
@@RoseBag72 Yes, Thanks. I've seen some of the other videos but by my estimation, you have a better (clear and direct, in a good way) presentation style. I am sure other videos from you would be welcome by many. I'm planning to use it for practice with and without the radio also. Thanks again!
Thank you Rose, very helpful and clear connection video
Thank you.
This is really well done and can help anyone with any radio.
Simple & to the point! Great job. You should do ALL MFJ's product videos. There manuals are horrible! Thank you! 73
😂
Much needed video. Thank you! Question: When is a cable for "Side Tone" used? A working demo would be great.
Hi Rose..... Rose your a star... Thank you..... RX/TX now 100% using my 464 and pro111.... 73de MI0GTA
Fantastic news! 73.
Thank you for your video and explanation Rose on which cable goes to which connection, I was struggling a bit trying to get my 464 to work correctly and I kept thinking the jumper's were set up wrongly and mfj support were no real help at all.. I'm gonna give it a shot now and see what happens when I connect it now correctly with my pro111.. finger's crossed...
Nice setup video. Now could you make a video on how to use it once setup? I think the manuals are hard to understand. Thanks
Good video❗️Thanks
Thank you !
Have you used the reader side of the MFJ-464.....interested to know how it copes with hand sent CW
Thanks for that. I have a question if you have time? I have made a box that parallels all my straight keys and paddles so it comes out as TRS jack. Can you tell the MFJ-464 which you are using or does it auto-sense depending on whether you plug in a stereo or mono jack?
Thanks for your time.
73
Patrick 😊
Very helpful video. Only I can't seem to locate (after much Googling) the 3.5 mm stereo to RCA you used. Any help?
I made the 1/4” to RCA out of spare parts. I made a short video of the wiring that is linked in the description. 73
ua-cam.com/users/shortsUhhVediXkJg?feature=shared
@@RoseBag72I wound up making one out of using the left side of a stereo 3.5 mm male to RCA double male.
Thank you is an excellent video but now I have a question I have an Icom 706MKIIG model I need to Know how to do the right conections to make it worth with a computer program that I have installed in my computer (hiper terminal )because I use a computer with a keyboard to transmit. Well In brief words I use the same device but with a computer.
The MF-464 connects to your computer via a 3.5 mm stereo plug to DB-9 cable (sold by MFJ as the MFJ-5161). The DB-9 looks like a VGA but has 9 pins instead of 15. You may need a converter cable such as a DB-9 to USB depending on the ports available on your computer. The 3.5 mm plug goes to the "Serial Port" on the back of the MFJ-464. Best, R.
@@RoseBag72
Ok thank you I am going to use a translator because I can write and undestand just a bit but I am going to check it I am from Sinaloa Than you indeed....
Hello
I hope you're okay.
When the device(MFJ464) is connected to the transceiver does the MFJ-464 need to be configured in its menu ?
Because my device does not start translating !!!!
Please help if possible .
Tnx
ua-cam.com/video/Rp_0dmB6H5g/v-deo.html
Nice vid Rose-73
Thank you Rose! 73 de NØGFT
I saw your video very usefully. Could you give a tip to lock the signal between the two rig? I think it's not easy at all. Could anybody help me adjust the level, tone, af/rf control between the two rigs, MFJ 464 and Icom radio?
It's kind of bothersome that noone sells a mono RCA to stereo adapter with the ground and the tip connected to the mono side. I almost tried to look you up RoseBag - so I could e-mail you to find out about where you got that RCA connector. But then I read your description at the top - and "oh crap, that's what I was afraid of". One other idea I had to address this cable issue - to avoid having to do something in the connector area itself, I just went on Amazon and for about $20 I was able to buy a bare wire open end pigtail (RCA), and also a bare wire open end 1/8" stereo connector). So I can solder the RCA center wire to stereo tip, and the ground wire to ground, and just cut off the remaining wire on the stereo end (that goes to the ring contact of the stereo plug)... Then seal it up with heat shrink where the wires are joined in the middle... No connector work necessary and wire to wire soldering is easy. This is not as fragile a process or in any way difficult. One other thing I did similar to this (seemed janky at the time but was easier than alternatives). I tried to open an aux cable up to wire the key side for my MFJ-557 straight key oscillator terminals, and the wires were about the same thickness as human hair, so that was a bust. I then decided to just take aother intact aux cable and just solder one wire direct to the tip, and one wire to the ground (skipping the ring contact area of the stero plug) - being sure to tin both the connector and wire first so they soldered easily. Then I put heat shrink over the solider joint on the connector to seal it up and give it some extra strength. Had to take care of course soldering the ground portion to the wire so it didn't cross over to the ring contact of the stereo connector. Not pretty, but all those sins are covered up in heat shrink and after I soldered it, it survived the pull test, so it worked well enough for my purposes. All its doing is conducting electricity in a simple circuit. Open/closed. So it didn't have to be a work of art. Another idea I think works is take one of those dual RCA plugs that goes to a single stereo plug, and just cut the one off (or cover it in tape) that is wired to the ring part of the stereo plug. Use the one that's tip/ground (usually that one will be red). and that's just as easy as making a new cable.
wish you would tell what wires to use in the stereo plugs.
Is this what you mean? ua-cam.com/video/UhhVediXkJg/v-deo.html
Hi can you post a link where to get the stereo jack plug with single rca
as i have looked all over the net in the uk and cant find one they all
have double rca plugs .I dont mind ordering from the usa as i saw
another video in which the guy stated that you need a stereo jack plug
as a mono wont work on a 7300, i also have a 7300 I noticed in your video that your cable looks shop bought ..MFJ dont sell these cables .Thanks for any assistance you give me .
I did make it. If I remember correctly, I peeled the video RCA end off of an audio/video trio and then soldered the other end to a 1/4" stereo plug. I think the key is that it is a 1/4" TRS plug and not a TS plug because the receiving port on the radio expects the TRS, not that it is receiving actual stereo. Does that make sense?
@@RoseBag72 I am going to try a 1/4 stereo plug which accepts an rca plug and use a male to male rca but i aint holding my breath .Mfj have been making this unit for years and you would think that they would have fitted a modern usb connection on the back for modern keyboards, at style keyboards which they recommend went out of date 20 years ago . It also would be nice if they sold the cables which are required to operated the thing. If i ever get this thing to work i will let you know .Thanks for the reply's its more than Mfj did after sending them a few e-mails .
Let me know how it goes. I will be home in a few days and can post a photo with details of how that cable is contsructed. It looks like it is a problem for a number of people!
@@RoseBag72 I managed to get the 464 to send using the cable set i bought and i used a ps2 keyboard with an adaptor . The incoming signals are just a mix of letters but i did not manage to find any good cw stations .Can i ask what settings you have altered in the 7300 like cw pitch as i think this might make a difference to help decode the incoming signals .
Thanks .
The only adjustment to the radio I made is to expect a straight key from the MFJ-464 (even though I use paddles). As I have noted in other comments, I think that FLDIGI software does a better job of translating, but the MFJ-464 will accurately translate a strong CW signal. 73 &c.
The rca to quarter inch connector is a stereo plug, right?
No, it is a mono connection. Since UA-cam will not allow me to post a photo, I have created a tiny companion video for this at ua-cam.com/video/UhhVediXkJg/v-deo.html
Have you ever used this using just a keyboard no paddles or pc ?.I ts kinda obvious where the keyboard goes and i take it you just need one other cable going from key in on the Mfj to key port on the 7300.
I have not used a keyboard. Sorry to not be more helpful.
Здравствуйте. А показать в работе? Нужно было всё включить. Как распаяли переходник RCA на Jack? Спасибо.
Использование Google translate: Если я правильно помню, я снял видео RCA конец аудио / видео трио, а затем припаял другой конец к 1/4 "стереофоническому разъему. Я думаю, что ключ в том, что это 1/4" Разъем TRS, а не разъем TS, потому что порт приема на радио ожидает TRS, а не то, что он принимает фактическое стерео. Имеет ли это смысл?
Where can I find that RCA cable or do I need to make one?
Hi Jeff. I assume you can purchase one somewhere. I made mine out of spare parts. Sorry to not be more helpful.
Did this work out for you? I made a tiny video to show the plug at ua-cam.com/video/UhhVediXkJg/v-deo.html
Sorry I am again well I have done the rights connections in the same way as you recomended to me but I cant to transmit because there is not connection with the radio and the computer I have all the plugs so I do not know what I am doing wrong.
🤔 If I understand you correctly then you are not using a key or paddle to transmit at all, only your keyboard? I wonder if you might be better off using fldigi software instead of the MFJ-464? If you are using a paddle, you will have to make sure that your radio is configured to expect straight key output from the MFJ-464. Best of luck with this. I am sorry I can't be more helpful.
Do you have the manual? Just in case, this is the link: cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0289/7782/3843/files/MFJ-464.pdf?v=1586534158
@@RoseBag72 ok probably I upload a video showing my devices and my radios thank you!!!!
I uploaded a new video using my MFJ and the PC.
Thank You !!